Stop Failing in PVP | Space Marine 2

[@vinbingames]

8:20 And THAT is why the assault class is a night lord. they don't go head to head they run away and come back with friends to jump a crippled opponent.

[@KhornesfavoriteSquig]

Or alternatively cripple them yourselves THEN run to get friends(note, results may vary onky attempt to cripple single targets if there is more than one and none at low health run)

[@joeyelmer8549]

I love playing heavy in PVP. Bulwarks are my bane. But I have played enough to know when to get tf out of a tight spot. Noone expect the flanking heavy and it is glorious when you just mow down a whole firing line suppressing your team because they thought you just ran away.

[@The_fastfreddy]

I don't care how long it takes but I will become a god assault main in both PVP and PVE

[@TheEtoneKapone]

Assult is forsure the most satisfying and has the biggest skill gap.

[@cameronrobbins1527]

As someone who started with assault and it is now my highest level because everyone takes tactical I condone this

[@socksleeve]

Assault is dirty in PvP. Gamers just don’t look up. Best piece of advice I got was to always go into a fight with at least two charges. Also the heavy bolt pistol is a game changer, much better than the regular pistol

[@Kennerd007]

Assault and Vanguard are my two mains but I more so lean on assault. Always save a jump but also pick your battles. Assault can’t 1v1 worth a hoot but are the best at ambushing. If they know you’re coming you’re done for, be unpredictable

[@diredier]

"How to win: Join winning teams"

[@JebblesJunior]

Yeah honestly. The games a steamroll half the time. Be in the drivers seat.

[@TheShozo250]

been like that since Space Marine 2 but thats kinda any game nowadays

[@tylernations197]

Not gonna lie, yeah... Quit matchmaking, invite friends / previous people you saw rockin, rinse repeat... Honestly it's all games... CoD? Clan up and pub stomp XD...

[@gloomboy1639]

"A knife in the spine is better than a knife in the ribs", bro sounding like Sergeant Telion.

[@No_Feelings]

The moment you realize that the maps have a lot of verticality that ONLY vanguard and assault can capitalize on the game starts playing completely differently. Nobody looks up or turns around, they just run it down mid and hit trade until one side loses the team fight or a spawn wave comes in.

[@MikeTheBretonianGrailKnight]

0:03 I'd rather die than operate like a night Lord, son of the Lion shant stoop to such levels

[@JebblesJunior]

Well here's the funny thing, that is also an option.

[@MikeTheBretonianGrailKnight]

​@@JebblesJunior what that's an option this is an amazing discovery, best KZbinr ever

[@immanuel6233]

Lmao me figuring out to play assault like a night lord is also when it clicked for me how to play the game well, i realized i should just chip away at the enemy and only attack when i know i can win😂 that's why in that round i got 9 kill and 0 death. And funny enough my team was playing chaos so my assault was a night lord

[@Orinslayer]

(my preferences)

[@Tree.lancer]

The DA always did whatever it took to win battles and in fact they developed the sneak attack and other stealth tactics that the Night Lords later specialized in.

[@janvankessel624]

As stated before: Ave Dominus Nox... mf...

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

The multi melta is not ideal. It does, however, make level 1-8s brown their pants and run away screaming. Worth. Every. Death.

[@servalkorion686]

It’s a scrub killer but any good player knows how to play around it

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

@servalkorion686 you say that, but it got buffed like 2 weeks ago and hits reliably now. Last match i used it i went about 20-6-32 k/d/a in attrition and the other team were actually quite good. Match ended 50-48.

[@rjhogan07]

I am absolutely a night lord. I have my pocket sand and skinning knife ready!

[@goldjaws]

When your enemies are dumb, play smart. When your enemies are smart, play dumb. If your enemies are capable of countering both then play even dumber and fight even harder.

[@anothernerd6464]

thank you for this, I can feel myself actively suffocating my teammates feeble attempts to claim a victory in spite of the meager benefits I provide whenever I play. I needed this

[@stern2701]

Counter to sniper invisibility is looking for their shadow (lighting permitting) also identify their flank points and scan areas as tactical during team fight

[@theonlytnargmatt]

Just like my legion I'm the first (and best fight me sloppy seconds legions)

[@EliteSlayer946]

Don't worry, the lion was very kind to give us some of your dark age equipment. Thanks for the wall crackers, champs. Horus was very, please with the iron boy's

[@minty257]

White Scars?

[@Brother_Rony]

​@@minty257 Dark angels

[@minty257]

@@Brother_Rony Oh, OK, I thought he meant speed.

[@theonlytnargmatt]

@@minty257 it would have been beyond funny if someone commented white scars first, but everyone forgot, in keeping with the legion.

[@JebblesJunior]

Turns out I can't spell loadouts.

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

Thought it was intentional tbh

[@sundew3848]

Damn you did traditional sniper dirty The Bolt Sniper Rifle is Las Fusil’s crackhead little brother, that being said it’s still a sniper rifle, you will always shit your pants even if you only get hit in the body. With this weapon you weaken enemies for your teammates and finish weakened targets. The Las Fusil can 1 shot a 2 armor class enemy if you land a headshot, but takes 2-4 business days to charge up making it useless at close range where the bolt can just quick scope a couple times and be just fine.

[@JebblesJunior]

Bolt snipers aren't allowed to have a standard of living above poverty and destitution. The only people losing against traditional snipers are being fed a nutrient paste through a straw every morning.

[@sundew3848]

⁠​⁠@@JebblesJuniorThis is why Bolt Snipers snort crack and steal shit instead of being upstanding citizens like everyone else. The only time they feel something is when they dome some dipshit who thought snipers were weak at close range.

[@khamid1]

@@JebblesJunior Consistently take maxed out lvl 25's heads with bolt sniper.

[@clarenceweaver1820]

I will say, I’ve noticed that the bolt sniper tends to make enemies panic when they get smacked with a shot, especially heavies. I snipe, let them pop their shield, then the team takes down the shield and I headshot them to death. Works well when you have a good team

[@benneel5396]

"The codex astartes does not support this action." "Well I can't read."

[@juanvillalba8843]

That father comment around 2:20 made my mouth drop 😂 Edit- this whole video made my mouth drop the commentary is insane

[@TheZombieburner]

Geneva suggestions? I believe you mean Geneva CHECKLIST, Jebbles!

[@aidanthornton173]

*JebblesJr:* Assault is often grabbed by those short of brain cells. *Me:* . . . I like the way my Jetpack goes Wooosh?

[@josephjenott931]

As someone who does Vanguard pretty well, my recommendation is using the grapple hook primarily for relocation and flanking. You can save a team that is locked in spawn if you got a shock grenade and can drop down on a group of four. Sew havoc and reap victory. Also, if you can get close enough to a heavy while their shield is up, you can shoot through it, just proceed to step to your left around them while constantly firing from the hip. Since they will likely be in ADS for higher fire rate, they won't track you nearly as well. Its risky but I've done it with success more often than not. And that is how you can tell I'm 6th legion.

[@JebblesJunior]

If your level is up there, you can also use the point above them to drop the melta bomb, then ricochet out.

[@Boxfortress]

Beautiful imagery ​@@JebblesJunior

[@SGTMicrowave]

The easiest way to deal with a Bulwark is to keep a load out with Krak grenades. If they haven’t already lost health, the stagger from the grenade leaves a long enough opening to finish them off.

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

As they say in the U.S Marines: "If you're not cheating, you're not trying." Also fair fights are for suckers.

[@clarenceweaver1820]

I started out playing assault, then went to sniper, then to heavy, basically changing when I unlocked the armor pieces I wanted. Now I’m on my bulwark streak.

[@HoonterMaximus]

Really enjoyed watching this one. Super informative and straight to the point

[@georgewright9223]

Your class break down is perfect! I competed at a highish level in Halo HCS and my favorite class is heavy because it's straight out of Competitive Halo. Controlling lanes, anchoring and just putting out damage, give it to me!! Your break down of everything PVP is damn near perfect! Well said!!

[@GerdionXT]

Man you got me from the starts

[@friartuck6105]

I love snipers but I feel like I’m playing Team Fortress 2 whenever I catch one of them mid cloak. To quote Lazy Purple. “EVEN WHEN YOU FIND THEM THEY JUST WONT DIE!!”

[@Peter_Muskrats_void]

Getting the bolt sniper headshots is so satisfying

[@ryanketchum7146]

People get so mad when you go invisible and flank but like I'll stop that when you stop spamming jetpack assault, block spammin as a bulwark and shielding so much as a heavy

[@DTPandemonium]

multi melta in capture and control is really good. You can kill other heavies too by circling around them since turn rate is really slow in heavy stance and bolters need to heavy stance

[@wilfredwayne7139]

Stop flanking? More flanking I'm sick of my team walking the same way and dying try something else.

[@kylenguyen7371]

4:22 this tip about the melta would appear to apply towards the Heavy's multi-melta as well. I was trying that yesterday, and it really isn't very good outside of portions of the Mausoleum PvP map (and Bulwarks will still give you a really bad day).

[@Lil122J]

I started having some horrible stats at level 25 because I no longer care about winning. Doing stupid stuff like hogging every grenade pack on the map and speed running flashbang headaches or focusing one player and doing nothing but dropping melta bombs on them from the air is much more entertaining. When in a 3-queue and all of us are screwing around, it usually disrupts the enemy team to the point that they stop functioning or half of them ragequit.

[@warlordmo1047]

700th like here! Great tips and gameplay!

[@PaulieWalnutsGualtieri]

Hidden gem right here, this is what I've been looking for.

[@evmarekaj]

Great tips. Three critics that or less critics and more just critical thought. 1. The level thing is not a rule but a generalization. Most of the smart people I found are between levels 10-15. 2. The boltsniper can be a bitch if they are slippery and coordinate well. They will be nigh untouchable with a team to support them. 3. If you are Bulwark and your team isn't making your long stands useful. (Either cause they suck or the other team is just better) Try flanking, bulwark who flanks while picking single targets is scary. Whats even scarier than a smart flanking Bulwark is when he's flanking with the sniper. If you have a game that is mostly a consistent shoot out stalemate. Having a sniper/bulwark duo flank while the other 3 play fire down the hall will fucking rock the other team.

[@kylenguyen7371]

3:26 They get comfortable, complacent, and sloppy. They've unlocked everything at this point, and there is no disincentive for failing, so they don't "lock in" without teammates to coordinate with and motivate them.

[@stern2701]

I needed this video way sooner lol I learned the hard way.

[@mellar5864]

the sniper is not that bad for team cover fire. by the time people notice they got put at half health with one shot it's usually too late to retreat. I think it's very good as a team support

[@JebblesJunior]

It begs a question though. Why waste time at cover fire when you could be more use gutting the enemy backline better than anyone else can?

[@mellar5864]

@@JebblesJunior because i'm getting c*ckblocked by the level requirement. I'm just saying i don't think the sniper is bad, i had plenty of really good games with it. I think you can get enemies low for easy kills faster than most other classes. 1 sniper clip can put most of the entire enemy team at low life. A good sniper can create as much pressure holding a choke point as a heavy if not more, sure you don't have a shield, put you are harder to hit, you hit harder and you hit faster and any enemy has to flank you, bc if they dive your team you kill them.

[@brawlgasm56]

1:50 nah fuck that. Quitting is shameful no matter how you try to justify it

[@JebblesJunior]

Honestly, if my teammates are tanking I'd even prefer they try to get into a different lobby. So I think it's fine even when I'm on the receiving end.

[@joeyelmer8549]

Update: I am a disappointing sack of orkscrament with the Sniper/carbine, but your teaching made me a hell of a Helldive so I am gonna trust the process until I am an equally deadly meat suit of pain that I am as a HD! Didn't even ever have any interest in WH40K before your videos my guy!

[@JebblesJunior]

Welcome to the club.

[@joeyelmer8549]

@JebblesJunior "Welcome to the Club" -the Assault Class motto

[@d3thtr4p10]

Golden advice here. Although I never abandon my team, no matter how bad it is. 😂 I’m fine with losing, as long as I can bully the opposing team.

[@DerekWorth02]

Using the heavy melta, I can wreck anyone trying to take an obj. Stay LoS till someone gets brave and tries to take the obj then melt em. Bulks go down easy with a stomp then blast. Anything beyond kissing range = the Melta loss. I only pull it out if I see an overly aggressive enemy team. (also helps if there's a Bulk ally near, people panic and can't deside which to target)

[@nicholasdevito8177]

Great point. Every level 25 I’ve played with has been total ass. Started playing PvP yesterday and got 23 wins and 3 losses.

[@haydenmetzig1987]

Another great point for bulwark, currently (not sure if they’ll nerf this) the power fist one shots anyone full health barely holding its charge for a second. You will win any bulwark V bulwark melee fight by just barely charging the fist. Went 22-5 in back to back games thanks to no one really expecting to get one shotted as I run up on them. The 4 armor and shield really complements being aggressive and just punching all your enemies.

[@JebblesJunior]

They have now fixed this.

[@HumanInstrumentalityProject]

As a heavy, i throw my shield up after a good dodge or when face tanking mid health loss.

[@Kriloth]

Really surprised by how dope the multiplayer is in SM2. Hope they don’t let it languish

[@shrunkenheadsandspiderwebs697]

Geneva suggestions killed me 😂😂

[@chrisevans9669]

Been trying to PVP for the last two days and just cannot get a single understanding on how anything works. I walk into every room switch my classes and somehow I’m just getting melted by all shots so do specific weapons do more damage.

[@GorblinRat]

Also melta is actually pretty good in cc, two heavies often just zerg and wipe entire teams. I see it often.

[@tamalesftw]

Is the power fist supposed to just one shot heavy attack anyone?

[@JebblesJunior]

Pretty much. It's kinda bullshit but use their charge time to do a step back and you'll be ok.

[@joshuaeaston8205]

Geneva suggestions was a good one

[@apolashimself]

No room for geneva requests here

[@FabioHenrique-ch4wy]

Disagree with the bullwark, he can cause lots of pain in anihillation and even get more kills than everyone. That depends on how versed he is with animation cancelation. Power sword in power mode 1 running swing and 1 pause power attack first swing is enough to kill any marine. Then the player can cancel the animation before striking the ground. He can also do 3 running attacks in quick succession to kill anyone trying to roll alway if he cancels the animation. The bullwark is the horror of anything that isn’t an Assault, assaults generally can kill him before he shoots enough to kill them. Any other class will die in 2 swings. Thats how I got 24/7/2 and many, many other games where I killed a lot and won. (Of course I play dark angels)

[@JebblesJunior]

I said they could be effective on all modes, but are particularly good in point modes.

[@alexmeier1]

Nice video. Commenting for the algorithm.

[@mirosu5885]

Question How do I not get rolled by Max level players when I only play pvp casually

[@JebblesJunior]

You must look up my son.

[@Rougewave_fun]

Finally I can stop losing !

[@David-li4uw]

I can tell you why level 25s suck a lot. They like me trying to learn to use classes they haven’t used before

[@tophatdon154]

Hmmmm... Day 4 Now I shall make a comment about the actual video; Tactical is my favorite for his obvious adaptable nature. If I need to one man army I can, if I need to support my team I can. If I need to get my filthy BLACK TEMPLAR HANDS DIRTY I SHALL FOR SIGISMUND DID YOU THINK YOU CAN ESCAPE ME!?!? NAY HERETIC DAY 4 IS UPON US MW AHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BLESSED BE OUR EMPEROR (Also I love the content 💪💪)

[@Zekrom249]

Are my choices wise? The Codex Astartes does not support my actions.

[@JebblesJunior]

Codex is mostly suggestions.

[@KhornesfavoriteSquig]

THE PRIMARCH HAS POSTED AGAIN BROTHERS! And speaking of playing like a night lord snagged a win last night by stunning thwn slamming a tactical before doming a distracted bulwark in the head

[@devwinkle]

This video was good but even if it sucked I’d sub on your jokes and personality alone 😂😂

[@shefbrown528]

3:15 any experiences like this

[@GorblinRat]

I find assaults pretty simple to kill, it's the snipers with carbine I really hate. They are somehow always invisible and somehow around every corner and somehow can kill everyone with their gun even when you start shooting them in the back before they even see you. The weird thing is I never seem to get that kind of damage with the carbine, even with headshots. I really don't understand it.

[@JebblesJunior]

Most assaults are easy to kill because they are SO bad.

[@awejots]

Using mouse and keyboard or controller?

[@JebblesJunior]

M&K

[@Muzzle1300]

Gonna hard disagree on the bolt action sniper it slaps hard, I will go a step further and say a good sniper will redefine the entire match not only because you can pick off enemies in the back and protect your team from flankers but you support them by weakening opponents, one shot takes shields off of anything below 4 only thing to really worry about is if there’s a bulwark protecting his teammates or if the enemy team is running a tanky team meaning 2 bulwarks and 2 heavies which should be an open field day for an assault. If someone is trying to fight you up close throwing a krak grenade and shooting them with a pistol basically is a kill. Ironically I used to just run an smg as a sniper but then started running an aggressive sniper where I don’t camp one spot but run around and snipe its pretty terrifying since you have a larger range compared to an smg that you have to run the risk of being close to the enemy, and if a large amount of them has grouped up sniper rounds go through targets.

[@JebblesJunior]

I have not once out of four straight weeks of playing against all variety of players found a sniper that wasn't ground into powder by simple flanking.

[@takashishin8282]

I kind of feel like an insult I am a night Lord they tell you the truth that is my tactic and war in any game I like ambushing I love giving the enemy a good scare and players I'm sorry because every time I play a nightlord I'm the one who might have been killing you behind your backs but I just enjoy it too much with the paint job😅 and my nature so bring on the meat because I am here to skin a good space marina by backstabbing

[@plineowissman7624]

I tried PVP on launch, was exited to have full jump pack functionality, pulled up my power hammer, and got out dpsed by every single ranged weapon standing still in front of me. Got killed before the second hit every time. Unless you get the jump on people, that is what happens. It's a fun concept, but the supposedly super strong armor feels like cardboard. I don't know how, or if, they will attempt to fix it but I'm not a fan. Was half expecting super resilient, elite champions of mankind, or chaos super-soldiers, paragons of skill and endurance, but it plays like an average fps. Run up, aim, shoot a few bullets, kill or die pretty quick. What's the point of being a super soldier with power armor if it plays somewhat like every fps? You can go ahead and say "skill issue" but it's not for me. I much prefer losing all my health mid-air for a sniper tyranid while my team shoots the melees.

[@JebblesJunior]

Yes, you are a super soldier of sorts, but it's important to bear in mind you're fighting other super soldiers with weapons meant to kill super soldiers.

[@plineowissman7624]

@@JebblesJunior Indeed, but then what is the differential from any other average fps other than the graphics and theme? Because gameplay wise I find many other multiplayer fps games better. I understand though, which is why I think it's a hard issue to address. The guns are also supposed to feel powerful.

[@No_Feelings]

@@plineowissman7624 with that logic why play any shooter? They all are about guys with guns shooting each other so they're clearly the exact same. This is such a weird and bad take lol

[@plineowissman7624]

@@No_Feelings Change your username to No_Eyes cause you can't read

[@botpenn4672]

you have a jump pack. use it. the enemy can parry or dodge your normal attacks, but not ground slams

[@myster_ink8115]

Example: you can have the best gun and still suck, every tool has a user that can wield it with the upmost efficiency. The best tool for you wont be the best tool for me and Vic versa. @3:35 It's because a lot of people have the misunderstanding that just hitting lv cap (in any game) it automatically makes them good and on that strength alone they will win. The more skill based (being able to utilize skills and ability's together) players know better, this truth is relevant in pve as well. I've ran many a opp with max level players that didn't know left from right, let alone their nose from their ass.

[@lv2982]

I ain't gonna lie, the pvp in SM2 is a giant disappointment to me, it feels like Gears Judgement (the worst one) no downs, no ranked matchmaking, boring maps etc... rest of the game is so much better it makes me wonder why it was even included.

[@JebblesJunior]

Multiplayer was very much an afterthought, it wasn't even supposed to be in the game in initially.

[@lv2982]

@@JebblesJunior If some ppl enjoy it then I'm happy for them, but for me I'd take extra operations and horde mode over it any day of the week.

[@John-kc4cg]

@@lv2982 They really need to work on class balance, team rebalance/shuffle, and just giving us more.

[@theneelay]

I think a lotta solo level 25s are playing classes they suck at for the sake of finishing the armor sets. If they’re playing with a team, they’re playing to win, so they play the classes they’re good with.

[@mr.voidroy6869]

A solo lv 25 is bad because most 25s that are good play together.

[@commanderfarsight2722]

Is it just me or are extremely unbalance pvp matches still common? Constantly getting games where my team can barely touch the point and get a double digit score on the board and the other team is practically spawn camping to the point I find PVP very unfun

[@JebblesJunior]

Yeah, the team balancing is awful. But you can embrace that and turn it the other way as well.

[@michaeljaggers237]

I just wish people would learn how to actually their class appropriately and learn how the objective points work and that being a murder hobo only helps in one game mode .

[@Eskeletor_210]

As a single level 25 player I don’t suck. If you see me spamming thanks it means my team is bad. I hate getting goon squadded by pre mades

[@botpenn4672]

I CARVE MY NAAAME ACROSS YOUR TOOOWNS WHEN I'M SET

[@DYLICIOUSPRODUCTIONS]

I disagree with your statement on the bolt sniper. I use it to quick scope I have some nasty clips doing so.

[@JebblesJunior]

As do I, but the time to kill just isn't fast enough unless you're fighting a roster fresh off the short bus who doesn't use cover.

[@khamid1]

Calling Tactical's Auspex an "ok" skill is bait 😅

[@JebblesJunior]

People forget you can just not walk into it.

[@Cman2ptO]

​@@JebblesJuniorThat's why you place it on top of them, then they don't get the option to walk around it

[@angeloandverny]

lol once you hit level 25 you just wanna get good at other shit so you suck again for awhile

[@felsdiadem]

bro is savage . good tips tho

[@xxxflipadelphia]

"LOUDOUTS" smh

[@NotFortheMoonay]

Coming from a guy that maxed out the two armors first, you are disrespecting the Bolt Sniper a little too frivolously. I've dealt with competent flankers before, and most do not expect me to have saved my flash and hip firing into them before popping stealth, after which I finish them and continue shooting their Heavy and Tactial in the face repeatedly. Simply need to have a life outside of holding Mouse 2

[@wilfredwayne7139]

What matchmaking I'm top every game and lose every game thanks to the bottom 2 being 1/10

[@netman446]

Once you hit 25, you've unlocked everything and stop giving a fuck. Time to experiment and start playing weird playstyles you haven't tried since you were busy grinding xp.

[@korsobalias]

Great analogy for Biden and Kamala. Resonated.

[@thisguysgaming7246]

This game mode is just people camping the spawn points and getting jumped by a dude from the sky with a hammer. Super annoying how I’ll shot a dude for a full mag just to get two shot by a hammer

[@JebblesJunior]

I mean, if you hit the full mag, he'd be dead.

[@thisguysgaming7246]

@@JebblesJunior yeah but everyone just camps with shields together dude it’s super unbalanced only like two classes are useful for unskilled players.

[@thisguysgaming7246]

@@JebblesJunior you bad player bro you probably have a group of friends which basically makes you be able to curb stomp opposing teams

[@Eliteninja007]

Sniper shouldnt be able to wield an smg lol

[@AdubChannel]

I’m sorry, but this isn’t a video on how to get better or even play smarter in a tactical sense. This is openly stacking a deck to get your most favorable match up which isn’t skill. If everybody followed your advice half of the games would instantly dc or the second nobody “responds” you just say fuck it and leave? Don’t get me wrong does this work? Yes. If everybody did this would the game be better? Absolutely not. I’m personally only lvl 20 pvp and I LOVE playing against higher lvl squads. You know why? Most players once they reach a certain competency become good solo players but EVERYONE else is the reason they lose. This is more like a video on how to ease good players ego with copium. Dude is absolutely a great player though.

[@JebblesJunior]

I feel like you're missing the point here. The video started out and ended by saying it's a tutorial on how to be a cheap, underhanded bastard. But apart from stacking matchmaking, the class advice remains pretty reliable.

[@AdubChannel]

@@JebblesJuniorThat’s a fair point. I’m only stating that just cause you’re honest about being underhanded does not make being underhanded valid overall. If EVERYONE acted like right cunts in EVERY game, it would be terrible. We need to lessen shitty behavior in our communities instead of joining in. If you support that, that’s entirely your right.

[@xXFlowXx31]

Im good at all classes and most importantly I always finish 1st Im tired of trash teammates ( xXBM4LXx) ID PS5 If you want to add me