Stop Getting Mixed & Master the Neutral Game

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hidetone

hidetone

Күн бұрын

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@louisedyhlen3234
@louisedyhlen3234 2 ай бұрын
do a perfect electric
@skylrxoxo
@skylrxoxo 2 ай бұрын
works for me
@LyricPluto
@LyricPluto 2 ай бұрын
​@@skylrxoxoI love you
@jjjllliii
@jjjllliii 2 ай бұрын
I know you're a Bryan specialist but i really appreciate these kinds of general knowledge videos and I wish there was more content like this in the future
@determina7or
@determina7or 2 ай бұрын
small tekken gives me a little bit more space to play, It really helps, and I did work out this for myself becasue I was tired of this mixup stuffs , good vid
@Dusktorn
@Dusktorn 2 ай бұрын
These yap sessions are really useful I tried using more keep out tools in some recent games after watching this and it helped tremendously, also found I shouldn't be scared to use higher frame moves and just commit to whatever attack im thinking about thanks homie. Have a local tournament in 9 days hope I can learn heihachi by then
@Phantommm26
@Phantommm26 2 ай бұрын
The perfect advice for neutral plays, I've learned this because of the community through observing and playing with good players
@SlimeSolo
@SlimeSolo 2 ай бұрын
Yo dude this video is amazing! Ive been feeling stuck progress wise in tekken but alot of what you said is helping me form a new approach to the game. "The people that have habits, they usually die for doing the things they win with" is the biggest take away from me that i now know what to look for in my replays. More content like this bro!
@BigDaddyWes
@BigDaddyWes 2 ай бұрын
Good advice. Very important. A "50/50" isn't a true coin flip. It's a bit of a misnomer. "Mix up" is generally a much better term. A huge part of the game is learning your opponents tendencies and then using those again them. Every choice/guess you make is informed by all of the previous interactions. Your opponent is doing this same thing. BUT! you don't want to just stand there and wait for them to pick the option you guess correctly if you're actually trying to get better. You gotta learn how to defend against your opponent, sure, but they can't mix you up if you're the one hitting them. Maybe most importantly, the more opportunities you give them, the more of your mental stack will be dedicated to predicting the low instead of making active decisions. Big truths in this video.
@markkim1356
@markkim1356 2 ай бұрын
i think hidetone was also skirting over the topic of controlling tempo. there are so many ways to negate/enhance 50/50s and timing is just one major component. its why people have coined the term 'true 50/50'. kaz just knocked u down and is flawlessly wavuing on u when ur down and knows how to cd~iws2/ff3/hellsweep? u have to commit to the guess. but thats the 50/50 that was respectable, earning ur mixups with oki has been a part of tekken for as long as i can remember, the direction bamco is going with forced mixups and stances for everyone just really spits on this misunderstood mechanic.
@BigDaddyWes
@BigDaddyWes 2 ай бұрын
@@markkim1356 Direction bamco is going? Misunderstood mechanic? Chill with the negativity broski. We're all here to talk about how much we love the game you don't gotta yuck the yum. The point I'm making is a human brain is never going to pick option A exactly half the time and option B exactly half the time in any situation. Everyone is more predictable than a "50/50".
@KyeCreates
@KyeCreates 2 ай бұрын
​@@BigDaddyWeshe's speaking facts though, there's a reason so many 2d fans are thriving in a game that would have taken them years to be somewhat good at
@anantnaik5623
@anantnaik5623 2 ай бұрын
Genuinely not even capping I went from Ganryu to mighty ruler. I was playing way too passive instead of being active especially on plus frames. Thank you 🙏
@siyoiii7709
@siyoiii7709 2 ай бұрын
I've been waiting so long for a pro player to make a video about adapting on offense/defense and picking up on opponents' timings and I think you're the one might actually eventually do that Thanks for this vid too though of course
@lilbeastnb7698
@lilbeastnb7698 2 ай бұрын
Actually useful information and easy to diggest. Recommending this to my friends again.
@mikekingtaberna8917
@mikekingtaberna8917 2 ай бұрын
Anakin also told me some life changing info. God bless that man.
@Jojash177
@Jojash177 2 ай бұрын
What was it?
@JayRoyeaux
@JayRoyeaux 2 ай бұрын
Commenting bc curious too haha
@mikekingtaberna8917
@mikekingtaberna8917 2 ай бұрын
I play feng and l asked him before l played if he had any advice and he said db3, but u gotta be quick with it.
@mikekingtaberna8917
@mikekingtaberna8917 2 ай бұрын
What really changed me was he borrowed my controller cable and l can feel his tekken prowess coursing thru it.
@samseison
@samseison 2 ай бұрын
😅😅​@@mikekingtaberna8917
@FlowXI
@FlowXI 2 ай бұрын
i like to create situations where if they try to mix me up the options that hit me are limited in certain times in the neutral. Throwing out moves with counterhit properties makes the opponent scared to mix you up. using high crush and airborne attacks makes a gamble for the enemy. If they go for a move when im in the air, my gamble is that they might not be ready to float me. if they use a high and i high crush i win the battle. if i get hit it is what it is, that just means they pressed before me or used a quicker move. giving the opponent control of the neutral is giving the enemy more opportunities to damage you. you gotta stay on the move. Playing nina has really made me confident in the neutral because the people that beat me have to take over the neutral whiles i have it.
@GuntanksInSpace
@GuntanksInSpace 2 ай бұрын
I feel like I had this talk but on Soulcalibur. You mentioning that we can't be passive all the time is a good reminder of that very talk I had years ago.
@faisaalkamara4181
@faisaalkamara4181 2 ай бұрын
realizing this really made me a better T8 player. in T7 i was doing it to a degree, but the mixups weren’t as much of a thing to worry about, mostly just safe CH launchers that discouraged anyone from doing anything committal in neutral. once i realized i dont have to be afraid of them anymore and can actually be a lot more active in neutral, i felt like i could “keep up” with the game
@YuliusHaryadi7189
@YuliusHaryadi7189 2 ай бұрын
Nice video, align with my philosophy for tekken: "hit them before they hit you first." Thats why I love T8.
@taenixe
@taenixe 2 ай бұрын
Definitely a great video, and something I only started to understand more recently and helped a lot in my gameplay.
@Elite_JSM
@Elite_JSM 2 ай бұрын
That intro is fucking badass
@BustaNAugusta
@BustaNAugusta 2 ай бұрын
No panick buttons or good power rush for Bryan…gotta call out those mixups and die trying!
@jordanantoine6300
@jordanantoine6300 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video bro! 😎 excited for the next one!
@Tatzelveln777
@Tatzelveln777 2 ай бұрын
i would love another video on this topic. imo it's where I struggle the most. Great video!
@EntirelyInvisible
@EntirelyInvisible 2 ай бұрын
Great vid Tone, pls make more
@ims0raw4u
@ims0raw4u 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. Your words unlocked something in me. I'll do better.
@AuralFixation_
@AuralFixation_ 2 ай бұрын
Great video, look forward to more from you Tone!
@fran357_
@fran357_ 2 ай бұрын
wow nice video!! i learned a lot! :D
@BeauJH
@BeauJH 2 ай бұрын
"And you all have adhd" gotta be the best outro I've heard in a long time
@prtomanblastr
@prtomanblastr 2 ай бұрын
That toddler 4:35 looks fcking hilarious 😂
@sondertekken
@sondertekken 2 ай бұрын
Phitus
@TheSolarCobalt
@TheSolarCobalt 2 ай бұрын
Yoshimitsu: So anyway i started FLASHING
@jinogre4254
@jinogre4254 12 күн бұрын
It can be summed up like I was told when I first started in law enforcement. The worst thing you can do is nothing.
@lumen9590
@lumen9590 2 ай бұрын
Was literally just watching a phidx video about defense and then this video pops up in my feed once it ended. Lit
@Malco.o0o
@Malco.o0o 2 ай бұрын
Exactly the video I needed
@greg6538
@greg6538 2 ай бұрын
Great vid. First content I've seen from you. A friend posted it today for a mutual to watch. Followed on Twitch and look forward to catching a stream.
@adhdandrea
@adhdandrea 2 ай бұрын
Engagement comment goin crazy 🔥 (solid video as always)
@StreetGrindTV
@StreetGrindTV 2 ай бұрын
Great video, learned something with this one 💯
@ComfortZoneComic
@ComfortZoneComic 2 ай бұрын
Kinda hooked on ya" channel lately among some other Bryan pros'....no time to play so keep em coming plz
@zangana3052
@zangana3052 2 ай бұрын
I felt personally attacked at the end.
@GaspoweR
@GaspoweR 2 ай бұрын
Damn ill never get mixed up when I see a new Tone video just dropped 🥹
@iplay4us
@iplay4us 2 ай бұрын
Great video but I feel like you underestimate how much your own experience is weighing into your intuition of making fast paced decisions. Many players do not have developed the ability to make quick decisions as they don’t have the same high level experience as you do. That’s if I would teach a piano student a couple piano blues riffs and tell him he has to implement it in his next improv session. It just wouldn’t work. I think there is a big difference between starting slow and becoming faster and just trying to be fast without understanding why it works or doesn’t work
@Slimeafro
@Slimeafro 2 ай бұрын
I agree that starting slow and working your way up to being faster is totally viable. But I also think that maybe the point was to just make ANY decision faster, even if its the wrong one. Because now you have information to go off of and you can go back into the replay and ask why that decision didn’t work and figure out what you could have done instead. Your intuition of what the correct decision is gets better as you continue to make the fast decisions.
@n8caro
@n8caro 2 ай бұрын
Whole lotta yapping for a sentences worth of information
@hidetone
@hidetone 2 ай бұрын
Advice like this doesn’t help people lose less, it gives people direction and structure on how to lose efficently. 1000 games losing standing there trying to low parry someone vs 1000 games losing trying to guess whats happening next quickly are gonna benefit you differently. Imo the speed of thinking does improve over time but there are people unwilling to continue to believe in their plays because of a couple losses. I wanna encourage people to play fast but dont mash!
@therapyenjoyer
@therapyenjoyer 2 ай бұрын
Yes but you also listen to piano blues riffs and fully fledged songs as a piano student even if you don’t play them. Knowing next steps even if it’s not relevant at your skill level is still useful, and of course 1 on 1 coaching and 1 on 1 piano lessons are the only way to tailor lessons to an individual. I think this video is still useful information for most people
@Hai_teck
@Hai_teck 2 ай бұрын
Practice Practice Practice
@WeMissDimebag
@WeMissDimebag 2 ай бұрын
Even in Knee’s case, he uses jabs a lot to interrupt pressure and limit his opponent’s timings. Or at least, that’s how I interpret them. He does a lot of moving and watching but he will stick out hitboxes sporadically to keep people from getting too comfortable.
@GiovanniBallerinii
@GiovanniBallerinii 2 ай бұрын
He uses df1 more than jab
@hidetone
@hidetone 2 ай бұрын
@@WeMissDimebag his jab placements are amazing
@ZH-fc8dw
@ZH-fc8dw 2 ай бұрын
I like to stand there and defend and be rewarded with good punishes instead of mashing on my opponent with fast buttons to interrupt him, even if it’s a harder playlstyle on T8 this is how I’ve always been playing fighting games
@xecydez
@xecydez 2 ай бұрын
4:19 anakin impression kinda on point ngl lmao
@Slimeafro
@Slimeafro 2 ай бұрын
this MIGHT be my goat :shrugemoji: :100emoji: :hmmMeeting:
@Finndagreat
@Finndagreat 2 ай бұрын
KZbin did you dirty with the emojis
@Slimeafro
@Slimeafro 2 ай бұрын
it was intentional 💀
@johnnymonsterrrr
@johnnymonsterrrr 2 ай бұрын
Time to overthink another Kings sprint situation
@turbozyy_1502
@turbozyy_1502 2 ай бұрын
0:56 Hi chat 😁👋
@Inso_yuugen
@Inso_yuugen 2 ай бұрын
These 10 minutes have been massive for me.
@DEMONICBANANA7087
@DEMONICBANANA7087 2 ай бұрын
Honestly mind opening❤❤
@bapesta5277
@bapesta5277 2 ай бұрын
Woo another bryan fury guide from the tju tutorial god
@Ahope124
@Ahope124 2 ай бұрын
The adhd callout FeelsBadMan
@willgetpaid2040
@willgetpaid2040 2 ай бұрын
New Tone just dropped.
@OhRelaxAlex
@OhRelaxAlex 2 ай бұрын
This is all great, but what if I’m a Bushin stuck DVJ?
@LukemDakuwa
@LukemDakuwa 2 ай бұрын
This video makes me realize I was playing T8 in T7 lmao
@johnysimps1191
@johnysimps1191 2 ай бұрын
If they are trying to mix you up, keep em out. Alisa: 😬
@Jocatoe
@Jocatoe 2 ай бұрын
4:34 you never played in a tekken arcade machine before?
@sevenstringsyndicate6250
@sevenstringsyndicate6250 2 ай бұрын
MOM I MADE IT IN A TONE VIDEO
@Just_Manny305
@Just_Manny305 2 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate on this concept while facing Hwoarang? Bc I can't seem to do ANYTHING against them. If i try to interrupt the string i get launched. If i stand there I get hit with a low which opens me up to even more plus frames and more mix ups. And since all of his strings are kicks, the range is crazy... I get what you're saying about making a decision and living with the outcome... but what can I do against a character like Hwoarang when it seems like every decision is the wrong one?
@strikemist
@strikemist 2 ай бұрын
After this video I no longer get mixed & I master the neutral game. Thank you hidetone. I have lots of girlfriends now.
@fiveam8626
@fiveam8626 2 ай бұрын
"just hit the child before they rock paper scissors you"
@DanBanan69
@DanBanan69 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: "Tone" is a female name in Norway. It means the same as in english, a musical sound.
@backgroundbunch3534
@backgroundbunch3534 2 ай бұрын
Let me breakdown for yall: the best one spamming shit wins. Welcome to tekken.
@DeroTK
@DeroTK 2 ай бұрын
I might be the worst player when it comes to Fighting Mishimas, I guess wrong every time and im under alot of stress when they keep wavedashing on me at lightspeed
@GhaliumHD
@GhaliumHD 2 ай бұрын
TLDW: mix them before they mix you.
@NoWBrian
@NoWBrian 2 ай бұрын
this is good,,, just got fuked by heihachi wavu running mix
@rockstarguapstar666
@rockstarguapstar666 2 ай бұрын
i need the instrumental in ur intro
@PrimusVP
@PrimusVP 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips and letting me use your Lamborghini to take my sick fish to the vet tone U da Goat
@Omnicidal69
@Omnicidal69 2 ай бұрын
Watched this video and have lost every game since I saw it
@Shaomillian9024
@Shaomillian9024 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@BryanKo
@BryanKo 2 ай бұрын
Please make a better neutral guide ❤
@baconbitz7804
@baconbitz7804 2 ай бұрын
How do you play neutral when people just press round start?
@prtomanblastr
@prtomanblastr 2 ай бұрын
Every round start it’s better if you block, sidestep guard or kbd if you can do it cleanly.
@hidetone
@hidetone 2 ай бұрын
@@baconbitz7804 neutral starts at Fight, so just do what beats what they open with
@KyeCreates
@KyeCreates 2 ай бұрын
I thought this was a music tutorial
@SD-mi2vc
@SD-mi2vc 2 ай бұрын
When does "Real tekken" start?
@lukeerikdavis
@lukeerikdavis 2 ай бұрын
Red Ranks.
@TheSoufiane
@TheSoufiane 2 ай бұрын
From Tekken God and up I would say
@dvjxnz
@dvjxnz 2 ай бұрын
tekken emperor
@flugelfps
@flugelfps 2 ай бұрын
Somewhere around god ranks if you're asking about a rank
@hidetone
@hidetone 2 ай бұрын
@@SD-mi2vc maybe real tekken is the friends we made along the way
@camftd
@camftd 2 ай бұрын
Intro so hard
@Jestr_44
@Jestr_44 2 ай бұрын
“You guys all have ADHD” LOL
@xTahoe
@xTahoe 2 ай бұрын
lmao the toddler phi
@DreSteph0n
@DreSteph0n 2 ай бұрын
i have to report this before the red ranks see it
@wits_end.
@wits_end. 2 ай бұрын
I never lose the 50/50. It's pretty easy tbh. i just simply...uninstall the game🤣
@maaramori3404
@maaramori3404 2 ай бұрын
But neutral is a guessing game too. You try to preventively keep out, you get whiff punished. You don't press anything, you get rushed down. I don't get this genre
@Sarastros07
@Sarastros07 2 ай бұрын
first
@sethxtekken
@sethxtekken 2 ай бұрын
this guy talking made me sleep
@ManOfLegs
@ManOfLegs 2 ай бұрын
40 minutes next time.
@thegreattony
@thegreattony 2 ай бұрын
Neutral is nonexistent in t8 lol watch any high level play both players are always staying in close range forcing timing mixups
@c16621
@c16621 2 ай бұрын
Well, well, well - somebody knows about sansukumi-the three-way deadlock.
@jhonpreston8982
@jhonpreston8982 2 ай бұрын
you play Byron ?
@hidetone
@hidetone 2 ай бұрын
yes
@c16621
@c16621 2 ай бұрын
ROFL - I DO have ADHD ! 🤣
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