STOP The HATE!!! | Reasons to LOVE Emulation!

STOP The HATE!!! | Reasons to LOVE Emulation!
On today's episode of Gaming Off The Grid, we discuss the reasons we enjoy emulation. Some folks out there in this whacky world think we hate emulation........do we? Stay tuned
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[@RyanMiahH]

How dare you enjoy entertainment your own way and not my way! This is the internet and we cannot allow one another to have an opinion.

[@tomrwills]

I love that people can fix decades old bugs or improve old games. Then I play them on my Everdrive - so still OG hardware and controllers, just a special cartridge. That's my favorite way to play.

[@KayFabeMedia]

My big thing with emulation, is space. I can't collect physical games, its just not something I can do right now. I have a family and no spare rooms. I don't have a place to put a CRT, and a dozen gaming systems and all the games I want to collect. Even if I had the money to start a collection for one or two systems, its the CRT alone that kills it for me. In the 90s, yeah no big deal because the family TV was a CRT. But now, its flat screens mounted (way to high but I had compromise somewhere with the wife). In a couple decades when my kids move out, my dream is to be able to make a room a man cave, and get a CRT. But will CRTs work then? Will they be super expensive? Will the games still work?

[@ChaosGenerator]

I love original hardware but prefer having save states on a lot of older games when a lot of older games don't have a backup battery, the battery is dead and you haven't fixed it, or the password system is nonexistent or crappy. I realize that flash carts often include that feature but that is often clunky to deal with or just doesn't exist on the version of flash cart you own. Thankfully Raspberry Pis offer composite output right out of the box via the 3.5mm jack and have a 4:3 build that you can use on CRTs fairly easily and 8bitdo offers quality Bluetooth controllers that feel so close to the original consoles you want to emulate and if you have the Switch Online line of controllers, it is even better.

[@zombiegamercat777]

0:40 KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@coffeelover7687]

The biggest thing I love about emulation is that some games are very expensive or never left Japan. That solves both problems. Look how expensive Earthbound is. Almost 5 grand.

[@IowaRetroGamerDad]

Dang bro.. Where you buying Earthbound? lol Earthbound is around $350 loose... like 1500-2000 cib. But you are right... Thats why I love emulation too. I got Earthbound on my SNES classic and its the best way to play.. I love save states too.

[@leeartlee915]

I play SO many fan translations via emulation. It’s so cool to have all these games with english built right into them. I know technically you can do it with physical media but why go through the hassle?

[@chicagosfinest]

Hey gents just want to wish you both and your families a healthy and happy thanksgiving ..and that goes for Lamar too... continued health and success to you both !!!and big THANKS TO THE AWESOME CONTENT OVER THE YEARS...YOU GUYS HAVE HELPED ME GET OVER SOME DIFFICULT TIMES WITH YOUR REALNESS AND HUMOR !! MUCH RESPECT TO YOU GUYS!!

[@angryretrogamer7313]

I'm a physical collector of all the PlayStation generations and love having the physical games but a friend turned me on to a HDD for my PS2 fat with 630 games on it. Ever since I got the HDD i haven't touched a disc or turned on any of my other 8 consoles. This HDD is blowing my mind. I also really enjoy emulating all the 8&16 bit games I'd never be able to collect for PlayStation and all the other consoles too. I picked up a super console x for around $50 and have everything now. Collectors can't always have everything but emulators easily can so I'm good with emulation. Whatever helps you get the games and systems you want to play, I'm all for it.

[@xTheUnforgettablex]

Can you please suggest where and what seller sells the PS2 with all built in video games and exactly where to get super console x? Do you have the ability to save your games for the PS2 with built in games? Does the super console x have save states? Thanks.

[@VideoGameXDomain]

Yup emulation is all about playing the games and having fun not collecting. That's what some folks are not understanding. It's not a collector thing.

[@Woobuggy848]

Officially, retiring console gaming in favor of PC. (And it’s handhelds). After all being a game collector isn’t always a life time gig… As a sidenote: the ninth gen consoles aren’t “wowing” as the previous ones.

[@josephbradshaw6985]

Been emulating NES since 1997! EDIT: NESTICLE FTW! 8-)

[@us0769]

Mods and the discussion about longevity is exactly why I played the game Garry’s mod for like eight years, because the content was endless and always fresh. I miss it a lot and hope one day there will be a double A or 🤞 triple A FPS game that is made by the community with full mod, hack and server support.

[@boboifiii1289]

That is one beautiful cat bro!

[@megacide84]

Here here! My first cat was a Tuxedo cat. Been almost 24 years since I last saw him but I'll always remember him.

[@MiguelGarcia-xz8sg]

The message: Just play games the way you want to play. Collect the games you want to collect... And, complain on the comments section because you like to complain. Whatever makes people happy. You guys, keep making videos. They are always entertaining. Thank you.

[@andrij.demianczuk]

I’d like to see a full video on modded OG hardware. I have a modded Saturn and Dreamcast that lets me play super expensive games on original hardware. Does that fall in the emulation camp? Not exactly IMO, but it does give you access to everything like emulation does. I find I play modded systems even much more than my mister fpga even or a raspberry pi. It’s a nice middle ground.

[@NodakSavage]

I don't consider MODE emulation. You are playing the file on the actual hardware. It's basically modding a retro system to run similiar to how current systems run when buying digital purchases. I wouldn't call playing digital games on Switch emulation. Just like I wouldn't call playing digital games on Dreamcast via MODE or GDEMU emulation. It's real software on real hardware. If the modern tech would have existed back then those systems would have been no different than how modern systems are with the choice to download and play digitally. That's my take on Everdrives and ODE's. If it's real hardware, it's not emulating.

[@steviebhoy25]

One big upside to emulation for me is being able to smooth games out with X16 AF and uprez to 1080P or 4K, this alone makes a huge difference to the 5th/6th generation console games, and makes them look great on todays larger displays, DC/PS2/GC in 4K, sign me up.

[@Retroholics16]

100% with this!! Awesome video guys and love to see beer reviews back!!

[@CheesePlow]

Great video! Love your content! Just a little tip... there's a constant low end audio hum all throughout the video. You might want to look out for that next time!

[@GamingOffTheGrid]

Thanks for the heads up! My guess is the furnace kicked on. Sometimes I forget to turn it off before we film.

[@bodymore420]

The biggest problem with emulation is cyclic accuracy including sound/frame issues along with the dreaded input lag. If it wasn't for MiSTeR FPGA and having accurate hardware emulation; I'd still have all my 8, 16 and 32-bit consoles hooked up and modded. However, MiSTeR solves those issues and makes it an enjoyable experience. The Analogue Pocket replicates that accuracy with a handheld system and that's my preferred handheld console d/t that.

[@jamesgoodwin3444]

Hell yeah! Beer reviews are back! Also, had no idea about the mods. Definitely a selling point for emulation.

[@leeartlee915]

Number one reasons? it’s cheap. Number 2: You don’t have to give up a bunch of living space to dated media.

[@brisingr14]

Modding original hardware is the best. Like the free mcboot card for ps2 or the everdrive64 for n64. It was pretty difficult modding my 360 and gamecube but it was well worth it too.

[@yochrisnelson]

*Hank Hill voice* “Ya peanut butter WHUT NOW?!! I tell ya, that boy ain’t right..” Great beer review, great video 🔥

[@BillB808]

Run ahead mode enables lower latency than original hardware

[@RetroSho]

Definitely love emulation for the reasons you guys mentioned! Especially ROM hacks. I always split the difference and do flash carts on original hardware (or use FPGA hardware) and get the best of both worlds. The emulation world is incredible and it really enhances the culture when you allow it.

[@IowaRetroGamerDad]

Fo Sho RetroSho.

[@RetroSho]

@ Fo Sho! 😂

[@susannemorgan7996]

Great video! That Slasher Kart looks like a blast!! Definitely a unique beer!! I haven't tried a lot of new ones lately.

[@deadmousyplutaprestige8771]

I was just in a store with Rule of Rose yesterday. It was priced at 649.99

[@SlapaDaBassMAHN]

I like the transition from "you can do both" in regards to emulation and physical media to "not so much" when it comes to peanut butter and pickle beer.

[@CobraShuttle]

Having a variety of ways to play games has never been negative. I didn’t know there were so many hacks like that out there. Definitely a new scene I need to check out!

[@iShredStreets]

What a coincidence, I installed a PS2 emulator to see the difference on my CRT and LCD. I then remembered that you can tweak the graphics and suddenly the Emulation looks sooo much better than on the OG hardware. I love both but smooth graphics of the emulation are kinda pulling me over to the dark side.

[@rtara11]

Another great video! Also, I love that you got RGT 85’s book and tee shirt! Very cool 😎

[@Euruk1]

I really like the improvement hacks on the SNES that eliminate or reduce slowdown in particular via a everdrive.

[@CornyPuddle]

As long as your having fun gaming. That's all that matters. Physical digital or emulation. Enjoy the time your wasting playing video games.

[@00jorp]

time enjoyed isn’t time wasted 🖤🎮

[@CornyPuddle]

@ytguy00 just depends on your outlook. I've spent a lot of time gaming in my life. I have enjoyed it and made many memories. But I also have nothing to show for it. Therefore in my mind its considered a waste of time. I do not regret wasting that time. But it was time wasted non the less.

[@dauntae24]

When I first downloaded all the Neo Geo games to an old Pi was so excited. My childhood dream was realized.

[@sportsballgaming2239]

One cool thing I did for personal preservation was take my PS2 memory card saves, and backed them up to my PC. That way, if something happens to my PS2 memory cards or my PS2, I still can play with my PS2 saves on a emulator.

[@therexershow]

On reason you missed imo, is playing online with friends with emulation on retro games.

[@leviwarren6222]

Without the hit or miss , glitchy, mess of emulation in the early 2000s, I wouldn't have been introduced to and learn to love many of the games that got me into retro collecting in the first place. I'm actually sympathetic to video game companies worry about emulation taking away from their profits and therefore taking away from their working capital for development which affects all of us. Gamers, but I can very confidently say that emulation was a leading factor in making gaming a real part of my life and Nintendo has definitely made way more off of me due to emulation than they ever would have otherwise.

[@us0769]

Also I like how with emulation you can run a game better than the native tech available at the time.

[@mjdf122]

I’ve seen and have all from 1980-Now I have every console and tons of games both physically and emulation wise I use emulation to preserve my collection of consoles and games now and I’ve been doing that since the 90s or 00s emulation has been around a long time it’s cool no issues with me but there’s nothing like the physical form

[@mrj9881]

Nintendo has entered the chat...

[@Moulds45]

Honestly I was just looking at the beautiful cat 😻

[@GamingOffTheGrid]

LOL!!!! He's interesting I tell ya! Such a pain in the ass sometimes but overall he's a pretty good dude :)

[@iRep671]

As long as you are having fun gaming aint nothing wrong with doing what you love. Either its playing emulation or collecting/playing retro or modern game.. at the end of the day.. we all have our funtime escaping from reality🔥

[@mukeshgoolcharan6121]

Keep up the good work 😊😊

[@birdyy2j515]

Rom hacks alone make it worth it not to mention the price of some games. Cheers boys

[@ThiKu]

Yep emulation rocks. I have genesis mini and am currently playing Cowabunga Collection. But I also have a Nvidia Shield loaded up. Saves space, saves money, loads of fun. Can’t have everything you want, the space, money or time.

[@chaosdimension6433]

Im amazed at the amount of comments referring to modded consoles and romcarts as "emulation" I dont think it's the same

[@GentielioGaming]

The only best thing about emulation is that you can save your game at any time. That means you have more time to play other game and not start at the beginning when it is game over on oeiginal hardware.

[@MetalJody1990]

It really is a great time to be a gamer. I wouldn't be the same without emulation. The input lag is only bothersome if your computer and monitor aren't fully up to the task. Believe it or not, in some games (mostly 2D ones), you can get faster input response than what's possible on og hardware. Modern tech has opened that door. The possibilities are endless.

[@chaosdimension6433]

I would argue that romhacking is not "emulation" and a modded os2 with a burned dvd of rule of rose is DEFINITELY not emulation guys

[@kamen226]

I don't think it was implied that both are the same thing, moreso that alternative ways to play games other than original disc/cart + original console are totally valid and shouldn't be discouraged.

[@chaosdimension6433]

@kamen226 yeah agreed but the topic was emulation and it got kinda mish mashed with good old piracy lol

[@KibaSnowpaw]

I have the same view as you i have played Some games on emulating but i take a real disk over emulating every time I even take it over digital games and that’s coming from a person that has over 2000 games on steam.

[@JimProfit357]

Emulation is to improve graphics, period. Which to me is especially important if using a newer/higher def display than what was intended (I own 4K OLEDs, 3D LCDs, a high-end Plasma, a 15khz RGB CRT and a few PC CRTs, all having their pros and cons regardless of the content type). I have no interest in dicking around with scalers trying to make a PS2 look good on a 4K OLED. PCSX2 on the other hand, with widescreen patches, no interlacing patches, 60fps patches, even texture packs sometimes, now we're talking. Bringing any 3D title to HD resolutions is a transformative experience that can potentially turn a fantastic but eye-destroying game into something passing as a modern release. I can hear the argument that, for 2D games from 240p consoles, there's nothing like using a real 15khz CRT in RGB. You can use CRT filters on emulators, but it takes away a lot of the brightness and you're left with a screen that still has tons of motion blur (modern LCD and OLED being sample-and-hold display therefore hyper-blurry). Hence, in those case I go tend to go the "HD Remaster" route with either HQX or ScaleFX filters (best compromise between smoothness and preserving the artistic intent, I do not like interpolation blur filters or X/BR/Z stuff). And If the display allows me to sacrifice brightness for increased motion clarity (with strobing/BFI) then I will pick that option for sure. But I admit that for low-res 2D there's less room for error on a good CRT with original hardware. I own 99.9% of the games I emulate, unburdening my obsolete systems from the stress of intensive use, except when on those special occasions where I want the real thing, which while not my norm, is something I completely understand, provided you have the appropriate period-correct display.

[@arturomail]

There’s consoles I have modded, there’s consoles I have everdrives for, and there’s consoles I would not play any other way than original hardware and physical media. I’m not made of money, so my Dreamcast is modded. But I happened to stumble upon a decent collection of games for original Xbox and I’m very pleased with that. I’m leaving it alone.

[@davidgill7412]

Just a question, have you ever tried the MISTer or other FPGA hardware emulation?

[@GamingOffTheGrid]

Negative. Our set up is all original hardware. I'd like to try it sometime though

[@davidgill7412]

@GamingOffTheGrid just started a month ago using MISTer. It's an amazing difference. No input lag and a perfect way to preserve hardware as well as using the original peripherals (like light guns). It's definitely worth checking out, especially now that the price has come down.

[@gabbothegiver]

Hey look! A white Kratos 😅😅😊

[@johncracker5217]

Robert!! What happened to you??😂

[@josephbradshaw6985]

I like emulating because I can't be bothered to tinker with the hardware anymore. I just want to play.

[@philipadams3325]

There is commercial and non commercial emulation. I have arcade compilation discs that are run by emulatikn dating back to the ps1. Commercial emulation also provides us with mini-systems, mini and large arcade machines and other products. I love commercial emulation aspect for cheap ways to pick up games. I have tons of arcade compliations on PS4 - psikyo shooters, capcom arcade, Marvel vs. Capcom and so much more. As to non-commercial my steamdeck sporting batocera gives me access to tons of titles that are difficult or impossible to find and games i could never afford. Plus emulation save states allow me to finish games i never could before. I have 19 consoles counting some duplicates and tons of physical games. They get 80% + of my gameplay. But my little Anbernic arc d and Steamdeck with batocera are fun jump on and play for a few minutes to a couple of hours machines.

[@Retro-cabin]

Totally agree I get a lot of repros of games as back ups, also I’ve got rule of rose and Kuon as repros just to play them👍🏻. And I use the same way try before I buy. And I love companies making repro like project retro games it’s good for us and preservation👍🏻😎🍺.

[@JPepperL]

Honestly modding the consoles/everdrives really are the best of both worlds. I buy the games I really love and intend to replay if I can get a decent deal on them and then just use everdrives/modded consoles for the rest. It's not technically emulation as far as I understand and it seems to be nearly identical to the real thing aside from maybe quicker load times in certain circumstances.

[@DubsBrown]

Until more libraries offer video game loans, emulation is crucial to the culture.

[@dannys1392]

You both aught to be ashamed of yourselves for having a preference!! 😂 another great video guys! Happy Thanksgiving to you both

[@DongCorleone]

I completely understand how people love emulation, but I just have a hard time trying to justify me going that route.....just like I have a hard time seeing Rob without hair. Just keep that beard Rob! Don't kill the beard! Cheers and Happy Thanksgiving guys

[@GMoney_1973]

I need to try emulation for preservation

[@LatashaMoore-y7r]

Very interesting and informative video

[@bernardosellers369]

Question fellas.. I would like to own X-Men the arcade game that was on Xbox 360's store.. its not available anymore.. any suggestions.

[@Canadian_Gamer]

The reason I have complete distain for emulation is because as someone who has dabbled in speed running, I know a guy who only speed runs using emulation. He remaps his buttons, constantly cheats, it really takes the fun out of it.

[@JscoLP]

Also life, as a dad I like being able to bust out a quick rip of burnout revenge on the steam deck while I get a baby to sleep

[@richardheckmann1892]

I think that emulation has its place in certain situations but for me I prefer playing games with original hardware.

[@WavesNGames]

My end view on emulation is this: If you just want to play the games - emulate. If you want to relive memories -play physical. Both are great ways to game!

[@manwithoutmercy]

You can relive memories without physical

[@briansellers7673]

People get upset because they are passionate about games. No matter how you play, passion is a good thing. I don't think you should have to defend your take on it. You explained that you like emulation in the other video. You just prefer the original way of playing games.

[@mekman4]

Great Stuff!

[@kylevillella4301]

Well done lads.

[@dandevil5557]

there is no input lag with everdrives...

[@MrMasteroftrades]

On emulation games do they have there own library that they make I’ve only seen arcade ports from same games I’ve play in arcades can actually buy there own titles

[@dylanstyles8056]

It wasn't that you were crapping on emulation in that doom scrolling vid, it's the way you basically turned your nose at people who do emulate and framed it as though "You're not really enjoying or experiencing a game unless uoure playing it physically" which is what turned folks off.

[@ninjacape]

I like emulation because without it so many cool compilation collections wouldn’t exist.

[@omegaman2767]

I want to kick myself everytime I hear the title "Rule Of Rule"! I remember seeing the game at Walmart when it was first released, and didn't even buy it! If I could have saw the future in that moment.... 😀

[@GamingOffTheGrid]

Only if we could go back! I have plenty of those types of examples as well. Cheers!

[@omegaman2767]

@GamingOffTheGrid Exactly!

[@OldBudgetGamer]

Emulation like physical copies on hardware respects the gamers and the history and is a pro-consumer way to enjoy games that might be almost impossible to find.

[@KrisVickers-wn6dd]

shaved head. good man. I coolect for ps2 now. But I also don't own a PC and still use a Nokia phone. Living in 2005.

[@cusernament]

Look at Super Mario World Kaizo. The rom hacks are amazing and extremely challenging.

[@emansfvera]

I prefer emulation for one thing and ine thing only, save states on old games.

[@juhakallen]

It is what it is.

[@jwill7998]

Two words: save states

[@neoknight3320]

THE NEW NINTENDO SWITCH DUO 2-22-25

[@buri0819]

What’s great is that all The emulation allows to play shit tone of games as a kid I only dream to afford all these great games

[@Gamersveiw]

I had to pop a beer to Roberts bald Head

[@ImSteveMeister]

Please bring back the intro 😢

[@reygamingchannel1505]

Beautiful people: beauty is not important Rich people: Money is not everything Retro Collector's with 1k physical games: Physical games don't matter....😂😂😂😂 is a joke internet 😂😂😂😂 emulation on original hardware is the best for your bucks!

[@KingofBattle8174]

Peanut butter pickel beer?? 🤢🤢🤢

[@cdawg441906]

I’m #physicalforever, but emulation is awesome and has done so much for gaming. Nintendo still won’t give us Mother 3 in the West, so emulation I shall go for that 😂

[@jamiekuchma]

I dabble in arcade emulation only, good luck finding physical media for that.... my dude, and if you do it's severely limited, in some Lame brain collection that barely even covers the rich arcade history, emulation is necessary, nobody has the room or the means , to preserve every single arcade game, there is no input lag in emulation, it's your setup

[@boxxwiition2928]

Cut is clean!😊

[@Chriscannon3565]

Yeah it also accessibility of games I don't live in a big country like the USA so it's hard to find games that are older than PS3 very limited and very very expensive, sometimes emulation feels like there is no other option, nah just going to say what everyone else is thinking.... Get out a here with that beer bro that's nasty😂

[@LatashaMoore-y7r]

Physical media forever

[@Nobody-w8n4s]

Maaaan, listen. I have every game of note up to the Wii U on my steam deck. Emulation is the 💩!

[@VinniePaz]

My girl has a copy of Rule of Rose she want let me sell

[@buri0819]

Dude just enjoy the games who gives a fuck it’s a great time to play any games you want

[@chriswalsh3149]

All that talk about emulation is all well and good, but more questionable beer choice reviews please!

[@grizzlybearking1878]

STOP THE HATE!! | Reasons to love PIRACY***

[@megadan2988]

ya good points, its also awesome to steal from companies so u dont have to pay for it!! Its also awesome to cheat using save states and act like u really beat games!!!! WHOOO LETS GO EMULATION!!!! YEAH!!!!! im totally kidding but hope someone gets pist at this 😂😂 great video

[@malachor5ve]

Genuine question, why do you guys like the real stuff more than emulation? Is there lag on emulators or what specifically?