Stop Wasting Ammo In Helldivers 2

Hit markers, armor penetration, weak points, and damage can be confusing in Helldivers 2. Let’s explain how it all works and how that will make you a better player.

[@SteezzyAsian]

Counter argument: I was given the whole defense budget im gonna use the whole defense budget

[@doomino7899]

When I hear somebody saying like stop doing this or stop doing that I hear ,,nooo you are not supposed to have fun playing, you need to tryhard and learn every thing about the game and enemy armour and enemy weaknesses and use meta guns🤬🤬,, xD

[@TheKanetube]

Copy That

[@gnat4999]

​@@doomino7899while I normally agree. This man just said look at ur cross hair to tell if ur doing dmg lol

[@doomino7899]

@@gnat4999 i meant more in general,not targeted specifically this video, and from recent experiences when ppl kicked from lobby when you didn't had a meta guns or something like that ;)

[@SolarPlantPrincess]

Unironically how most US military officers treat their allotted budget especially once expenditure reviews come around

[@TYSLAPE]

This is one of the best Helldivers 2 shorts on YT.

[@harrybishop7206]

bro i straight gasped when the senator just punched through that strider, ive been running it for ages and never done than

[@briannjoroge4297]

The Liberator is one of my favorite weapons and I never knew I could just shoot the belly.

[@koboldsage9112]

Any explosive kills the scout striders from the front. The scorcher takes 4-5 shots.

[@manakzar7148]

Im just gonna keep wasting all ammo I want

[@NiceGamerGroup]

Ma Boyz and Girlz,just play without Crossair,then you will feel the armor pentration

[@ludkrieg]

It's not wasting ammo. It's about sending a message

[@ColtPerseus]

Good one!

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

Every message a vote...

[@droman608]

Giant bug: “That tickles.”

[@Bananaeeee-e-eeeeee]

Joker approved

[@SepticFuddy]

"Democracy is impotent" is the message you send that way, Helldiver. Sounds pretty undemocratic to me.

[@TheCosmicAstro-]

one correction the front plate of a strider is still medium armor. not heavy armor. it just just T4 medium instead of T3 medium. Heavy armor starts at T5. if you dont believe me you can see this by shooting it with a dominator/liberator penetrator, deflects, shooting it with an AMR, penetrates, but then taking the AMR and shooting a chargers head, deflects. AMR has T4 pen.

[@samuraitadpole5459]

You gotta do research for this game ig

[@LocherYT]

It also depends on animation cues. Due to bad coding, many enemies drop up to T3 armor during rotating motions (because the movement is not aligned correctly with their armor indicator). Most noticable with the Charger. While it's turning its body after each charge, its leg armor is negated.

[@ghostderazgriz]

​@@LocherYT Bugs are not a sign of "bad code" Just incorrect code. Algorithms smarter and older than this entire comment section combined have bugs. It happens.

[@AlenB29]

Amr does not pen striders frontal shield brotha 😂

[@chrisj1982]

Dominator bounces off. Been using it since it got the little bit of a buff

[@Golinth]

Wasting ammo? Never heard of her #ThisPostWasSponsoredByLaserGang

[@seantaggart7382]

Wasting ammo? More like making the ammo Hit harder! #thispostsponsoredbyrailgunbarrages

[@Astreious]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@seantaggart7382Hitting harder? More like not using any at all. #ThisPostWasBroughtToYouByTheMellegang

[@TexasGamer_05]

@@AstreiousNot using any ammo? More like spray and pray #Thissponsorwasmadebymachinegunnergang

[@To_Rue]

I never waste ammo in HD2, since it's not available in my country

[@PadaV4]

All the cool kids are banned from purchasing this game.

[@mega6076]

You can still play the came just can't buy it😊

[@Epck]

Still???

[@ggchad3739]

@@Epckeven though Sony didn’t go through with it just talking about it got it banned

[@Epck]

@ggchad3739 that's insane, steam ban?

[@LeonS.Kennedy-m9m]

as someone who uses the Stalwart on the highest setting and trained on the M249 irl we machine gunners have a saying "Accuracy through volume", wasting ammo is apart of our culture

[@Ol_Keefus]

a fellow Stalwart stalwart

[@DamTEDM]

Why be accurate when you can spray hundreds of bullets in that general direction. Eventually you'll hit what your aiming for

[@southerngunnut5661]

Just spreading democracy

[@ronwatford7331]

As another former SAW gunner, you also know we were only intended for suppressive fire, not exactly "rounds on target" 😂

[@jlit5215]

Based stalwart enjoyer

[@Metaspace2]

We are not paid to bring ammunition home!!

[@ishanpis4062]

It's not wasting ammo it's showing the enemy who has more democracy

[@garrenwright3636]

That’s an AT-ST if I’ve ever seen one

[@akaspen4739]

Fr

[@mega6076]

How is it any similar

[@mega6076]

It looks like the mini atst from those Lego duplo sets

[@Will_Forge]

Nah, it's an AT-RT from the prequel movies. They're clone trooper walkers. An AT-ST has a fully enclosed cabin, but an AT-RT is like a roman chariot on legs. You have to stand and it only has any cover to mention from the front.

[@Caponeson1]

I was looking to see if anyone would comment that.

[@SkyNinja759]

Sickle users: "Hitmarkers? What are those?"

[@LoserInChief]

Hey, hey. Sickle is great for anything below Stalkers and Hulks. Above that, and in AC We Trust.

[@smoketinytom]

If only there was a tutorial that covered this sort of information in the first hour of the game...

[@dougla517]

You're going to be sent to the re-education facilities for slander like that. Try thinking more democratically, and you'll understand the tutorials are flawless.

[@smoketinytom]

@@dougla517 Re-Education for encouraging fighters to learn about how to maximise Managed Democracy… Come on, Bot spy!

[@after_midnight9592]

Laughs in supply pack, mag dumping all day

[@gee3591]

Fr. My favorite loadout vs the bugs is breaker incendiary with supply pack and grenade launcher then whatever I decide to bring to take out bile titans

[@prestondickson1920]

That slot is for my recoiless backpack 😅

[@bigben9492]

Just be accurate and know thy enemy.

[@Dietrich_Kaufmann]

Supply pack + HMG 😎

[@InfinitePio]

"Stop wasting ammo" Thats what I told the people I was playing with before they kicked me.

[@Souls_29]

It’s actually smart to shoot back at the robots even though you’re not killing them because they have a suppression mechanic which will make them hit you less. It’s wild that some people don’t know this and it tells you in the tips

[@Arcolyte13]

My tips only talk about the glories of democracy and the perils of not democracy.

[@Waroftheworldsz]

Yeah... that does absolutely nothing for me getting mowed down by 7 heavy devastators 😂

[@alexanderlevy158]

I'm learning another language and that's what my helldivers is in - I cannot understand the tips, and when I can it's * always * something like: "Never Forget.... LIBERTYYYYYYY!!!" Or something about democracy or people committing treason. Never seen (understood) a * real * tool tip before 😂😂

[@alexanderlevy158]

​@@Waroftheworldsz. Try the arc-thrower to stunlock like 4 of them at a time 😏😂

[@Arcolyte13]

@@alexanderlevy158 leave me be 🥺

[@lidabao8]

The red and white hitmarkers will still show up when using projectile weapons to shoot at the "squishy" part of larger bugs even though it deals 95% less damage.

[@croom332]

Weapons that do explosive damage do their full damage to "squishy parts" for those unaware. For example, a stalwart will do reduced damage but an eruptor will do full damage.

[@jellyunicorn8347]

​@@croom332 not quite, all explosive weapons have two damage components - the actual projectile and the explosion. the explosion deals its full damage to durable targets, while the direct hit portion is still reduced by...the mechanics of durable damage and durable HP, which is actually more complicated than "non-explosives deal 10% of their damage to durable targets".

[@rapidpigz8238]

That's because the damage or lack of it isn't based on armour.

[@lukemehalick370]

​@croom332 valid point. Was going to type it out, but you are wise and quick.

[@Grimalkitty]

Weapons have more than one Damage value. Normal Damage Damage VS Colossal Durability Damage The squishy parts do not take normal damage, they take Durability damage. Weapons without the "Explosive" trait will only do a fraction of their normal damage value as Durability damage. If they do, the durability damage they do is 100% equal to their Normal Damage value.

[@Perclocept]

Alright you can have your little ammo conservation ted talk while I’m turning the rest of the map into glass😂

[@_Wetbread_]

Well i mean the game actually incorporates a enemy suppression thing when fire at them they tend to miss more like in real life its perfectly okay to hit some shots that're in the armour if you're looking to suppress the enemy

[@Superagent666]

I still can't even stop myself from COD reloading 😂

[@Warmaka]

Literally Codpilled.

[@endgame_404]

Counterpoint: 380mm orbital barrage

[@monstermunch4956]

This is why this game is so good. So detailed and the enemy’s crumble differently every time

[@jellomello2683]

for the walker, you can often see a litte of the operators dome sticking out. If you get enough time to aim precisely you can shave that bald spot straight off with a single shot.

[@marquis4116]

Grenades pistol

[@stain5594]

Wish I could play this game but I’m on Xbox 😢

[@evanom117]

We need Xbox players I hope one day y'all will be able to join us

[@TurboBMRProjectLove]

get a PC bro, consoles are just poverty PCs

[@evanom117]

@@TurboBMRProjectLove not everyone can afford it yet just be grateful for our fellow brothers in arms

[@stain5594]

@@TurboBMRProjectLove I have a pc but it’s out dated now adays need to fully rebuild it but that’s gunna be too expensive

[@RonnieMyers777]

​@@TurboBMRProjectLovegetting BOTH consoles is cheaper than a pc

[@GreenEagleVR]

Where’s your Ministry of Truth badge?

[@DamTEDM]

Yeah this man's sounds awfully un democratic. Don't make me assign you retraining helldiver

[@faceless5472]

They should add a encyclopedia of enemies and their armor values somewhere ngl

[@malprac]

Would be nice. Monster hunter has had several diagrams over the years for monsters to show how effective say slashing / bludgeoning is on each section of the monster and how it differs Even a basic one for some of the tankier enemies would have been nice here

[@mega6076]

They should add the beuro thingamabob

[@dougla517]

They don't even tell you the damage values for support weapons in-game... An enemy encyclopaedia is beyond them

[@Warmaka]

A chargers back legs take insane damage after his charge while he skids to a halt. The hit markers don't change but even small calibers can snap the armor off.

[@kaiserxion]

The only time it actually gets confusing is splash damage. Use the punisher plasma and you get a lot of deflection symbols but since it does splash damage it hits multiple areas.

[@yeetus8132]

Also if you throw an impact grenade at the front of a strider you can take it down despite the armour

[@dopedagoth1789]

I like spraying bullets in HD2 Its the best part of the game I looove seeing the flashes as the bullets hit and ricochet away from chargers Besides...its pretty hard to run out of ammo in this game, there is ammo laying around every 30 m or something

[@Will_Forge]

I feel like we play at different difficulty multipliers. 😅

[@SBcard]

​@@Will_ForgeI've managed diff 8 without calling in a single supply pod. You just have to look.

[@dopedagoth1789]

​@@Will_Forge with new players we start them off at dif 7 until they can handle 9 you know...the difficulty where fighting is meaningless cause enemies are never ending? where you use ammo not for kills but for supression? which is where the super epic spraying comes in :) also, i feel like maybe you play without supply daddies

[@roetemeteor]

For the laser cannon, you'll know if you're reflecting because youll see a white and blue sparkshow coming off point of impact. I say this because you don't get a marker using the laser. It is, however, pinpoint accurate so its a bot killing machine.

[@dCircusb]

Also can melt through strider's front plate lol

[@blistcc1680]

I don’t care, and will continue to exclusively shoot the armor

[@keenansisson211]

I want you on my team.

[@albinorhino4044]

Excatly, sometimes you are doing it just to draw attention so a teammate can get the flank. You are a team player my guy

[@edgargaming452]

I just saunter around to the back for the scout lol

[@tenou213]

This. harder in a group but far from impossible.

[@BlackTar2]

No one was confused they just don’t have the enemies standing still for them when they shoot at them.

[@pandaplays971]

I will waste ammo however I like thank you.

[@JackTheR3aper]

.... Wait why are people shooting striders from the front instead of flanking to hit the bot operatior driving the thing?

[@Northraider123]

Situation doesn't always allow that. Sometimes you end up in a situation where going for the flank means you leave yourself open to getting shot in the back...

[@spikem5950]

You must be playing a full squad and on low difficulties.

[@jacquestube]

Kind of depressing how obvious these are

[@toontownlegomaster]

bro they got at-st in this game lol

[@ornatus9616]

You can shoot the soft tail of the charger from the front, shoot below the mouth and it will go straight through, I do it all the time with the autocannon.

[@AF-mm8hb]

3x plas 1 for strider, 3-4x dominator for devastator, mouth shots for charger

[@catdogsking8658]

Laying down suppressing fire isn’t a waste of ammo.

[@docsgearheadgaming2503]

Lucas Films gonna sue some one for that walker lol

[@mega6076]

Wow a two legged walker they definitely created that idea themselves

[@Will_Forge]

It does resemble an AT-ST from the prequel trilogies and the clone Wars.

[@nilpark5105]

Oh… I turned hud and crosshair off 😂

[@gutsy1211]

I use as much ammo i want to XD

[@Metaspace2]

We are not paid to bring ammunition home!!

[@virtual_vanitas]

I'm gonna say it. It's lame that the auto cannon can't at least start to break the armor of a charger.

[@tonytony2277]

i JUST DIVE PAST THEM BECAUSE THEIR SLOW

[@user-jt1js5mr3f]

*they're

[@1234MrShane]

Woahh that's so helpful i didn't know that was a thing

[@primalfeline]

I’m sorry was that an ATST?

[@eddiepFW2345]

I didnt understand what he said expect impacts are the best overall dps

[@alexhoffmann3720]

Also side note you can still hit the tops of the walkers heads even from the front which is typically a one shot for most weapons

[@aomniunit3985]

Counter offer: Just don't play the game lol jk I uninstalled it for Space Marine 2

[@Eric-sj7eo]

How do people not just learn this after a couple encounters lol

[@RonnieMyers777]

Ppl havent even figured out friendly fire is on

[@Corporal_Coyote]

The HMG kills chargers if you hit their legs, and hulks if you hit their face

[@uncomfortabletruth9757]

its not wasting ammo though if your suppressing

[@xkavarsmith9322]

Rule 1. Liberating a planet is never a waste of ammo. Rule 2. Never listen to a gaming media outlet for actual gameplay advice. They're not speedrunners.

[@Heed__]

They are not wasting ammo shoting on automatons and bugs even if you dont pearc armor can slow them make they accurance(sorry if i write that wrong)worst or even stop them from shoting at all

[@mickjames4736]

I got you covered my dude, i havent wasted a single shot since sony blocked the game in 180 countries, wont be taking any til they fix that.

[@aquawolfx8715]

The fact a chargers mouth isn’t a weak spot is infuriating. What’s wrong with checking the durability of their chompers?!

[@ItsLerez]

Tbh this is helpful as i didn't know about white and red. Kinda wish we could adjust the color as I'm used to red Crosshairs meaning something is dead in other games

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

Adjudicator made the penetrator obsolete

[@mega6076]

The aducator??? is better????

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

@@mega6076 Compare the stats. The last buff , and them moving it to the assault rifle class, made the penetrator not worth picking over it. The penetrator was the only assault rifle to not receive a buff, making it's damage the lowest of all assault rifles

[@UnknownSquid]

@@mega6076 Yeah, it's basically just a better Liberator Penetrator, with the recoil being the only reason you might not use it compared to the Lib-Pen. Otherwise it just has outright superior damage output even regardless of the smaller magazine.

[@TheRhadamanthus]

Yep quickly learned my slugger can pen the pelvis of the strider

[@Ninisty]

They could just stop nerfing guns

[@alpharius2098]

Your not my supervisor

[@COVID--ls6xf]

grenade launcher.

[@Khornate_Berzerker]

I don't waste ammo, im using energy weapons

[@CommanderCort]

Counter argument, learn the mechanics of suppressing fire and aggression management for funneling targets.

[@Higgway]

I don't understand why there's so much angry and jealosy people. Game is doing great and somehow braindeads gonna look at the glass and still say "it's not transparent" 😂

[@lukadavis2836]

Technically the damage mentioned is normal for white and extra for red, not half and normal

[@SgtLuke]

The Scout Strider looks like a modified version of the AT-ST from Star Wars.

[@aced4fun]

I know this but I still shoot the front of chargers because it feels like I’m taunting them lol

[@Reituco]

Don’t waste ammo on white hit markers, you will do even less damage

[@nairobi8056]

On a side point: You could just go around and shoot the robot piloting that AT-ST

[@Tellempos]

bruh, i learned this 2hrs in to the game. actual skill issue.

[@ryfighter9648]

game is dead move on to SM2, the HD2 devs will never give us the fun we want

[@aegic001]

I'll spend my ammo however I want thank you very much.

[@jghost8004]

Or you can just dodge it by zig zagging and let it stomp just to destroy its back side

[@aardbot]

I always aimed for the leg joint on the striders.

[@Jesus.christ-v3z]

Ammo exists for a reason and I intend to use it

[@denverborland4877]

What's that gun again!?!?!

[@ShatteredF1re7733]

I thought white meant normal damage. Red meant critical hits.

[@UmbreonMessiah]

Wow! It'd be really nice if the game EVER EXPLAINED ANY OF THIS :|

[@UselessBunny]

Average Game-Tester mindset be like.

[@RobinYoBoi19YT]

your the type of person to die to a zombie on doom on easy mode

[@Will_Forge]

No that's the point. Games are better when they don't explain much at all. Every single game in the to 10 of all time only explains the most basic concepts, such as Ocarina of Time and Minecraft because the engagement with the game is better when you're challenged with figuring it out on your own alongside a community of fans all doing the same.

[@RobinYoBoi19YT]

@@Will_Forge well said

[@solublequill5714]

Just always remember dingy from chainsaw man It's nuts or nothing

[@davido.1233]

I just started playing Helldivers last night, so this is very helpful!

[@zacharyahearn4069]

What about explosive and sythe/laser and tesla?

[@espositogregory]

Mechanized vehicles do not have pelvises. They have chassis.

[@Azothify]

riccochet does 25% damage not none. It's not effective but it does work. white marker means normal damage. red marker means "weakpoint" which is 2x damage and can be done on literally any gun on any enemy, shot in the right spots. You also failed to mention how certain enemies have vulnerabilities. Such as heavy armor being weak to fire, soft targets being weak to arc. and gas is a area denial that doesn't risk being destroyed like a tesla turret. but works on everything.

[@fastf.8755]

Wrong

[@Azothify]

@@fastf.8755 Got any proof? because nothing about what I said is wrong. You can even test it on enemies by re-doing the tutorial. to get access to smaller bugs to deliberately ricochet things on (they still die, which wouldn't happen if they took no damage) Or you know. you could even go to the forums where the devs literally addressed how it works. Put some thought into what you say.

[@marioferreira6197]

lol nobody was confused

[@duross101]

Im not just wasting my ammo, Im also wasting my time.

[@thepimmser2610]

That, iz why i use arc weapons, and plasma weaponry

[@Cato-y1j]

First one "Go ahead, I'll wait"

[@kylebrooks338]

Scorcher also handles a lot on the field. It’s saved me countless times

[@awesomepawn2]

bold of you to assume im hitting what im aiming at

[@anongreen9495]

STOP telling me what to do in helldivers 2 ill play how i want

[@vvvvallejo4556]

if you get a buddy and 2 machineguns, you peel the armor off a chargers leg with enough ammo, but the entire time youll see the bullets jump off.

[@mnandeazy34]

Thanks for the info, but ima keep doing what i want. It's just way too fun watching rounds bounce off and my friends more worried about my ricochets than the actual enemy 😂🙃

[@cutestproductions8252]

Or use the scorcher with the “explosive” trait. Even though it has light armor pen about half of the damage is going through medium armor targets killing striders in 3-4 shots and gunships in about a mag