Stop Wasting Money on Sleeping Bags! | The Ultimate Winter Camping System

[@Sandvik94]

This tip is mainly for military use, but I use it on civilian trips too when I have 2 bags instead of 1 thick (like you said with a cabin). In regards to putting 1 sleeping bag inside the other you “should” put the lighter/colder one OUTSIDE the bigger/warmer one. E.g. Carinthia Defence 4 inside Carinthia Defence 1. Even if it seems counter-intuitive it is for 2 reasons: 1: You will get condensation, but it will be on the outer sleeping bag. If you have limited time or heating sources the wet or frozen sleeping bag is the lighter one which makes it easier to dry. 2: You will get condensation, but it will be on the outer sleeping bag. If you can’t dry the outer bag, at least you still have the warmer one intact.

[@George_Lewis]

I've always put the lighter bag inside, but what you say makes sense. I'll try it next time.

[@Biomass1]

I've used the US military MSS since I got out in late 90s. Usually the black cold weather bag and Goretex bivy but do add the jungle bag or wool blanket if needed. Put sleeping mat inside bivy then bags. Put a piece of Tyvek down as ground sheet. Minnesota gets dang cold too.

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

I have never tried the sleeping pad inside the bivy bag!!! /Matti

[@tomsitzman3952]

The advantage of stuffing one bag inside the other you get the insolation from each bag plus the added dead air space between the two bags adding 5-15F degrees of insulation value. The past few years I have adopted the MSS, Modular Sleep System used by the Cold weather armies. All the modules are placed inside the bivy bag including the sleeping pad. I only take the parts of the system needed for the night temperature. It has worked well for me from +120F to -30F. The range I used to travel in. At 83 I'm not getting out in the high and low temperature ranges anymore. With the MSS I have layering options. Instead of two sleeping bags I can add one sleeping bag and add down coat and long down bottoms. I also have three bag liner options to choose from, Sea and Sky, Hollow fill knit liner, Alpaca wool knit liner or a micro fiber liner. Years ago I turned my top opening sleeping bag into a double bag by sewing a nylon sheet the shape of the bag to creating a quilt. On a cold night my wife, me and our little kids could all sleep together in the tent. We also use it on a bed at home.

[@Antonseidl_]

Aahhh it’s soo nice to see the tent that I spent some nights in! Dogsledding with Matti was one of the most amazing experiences i’ve ever had! 😍 Matti definitely knows what he is doing and talking about!

[@camouflage962]

Matti, this is one of the most useful videos you ever did to those who are seriously into outdoors

[@neonsamurai1348]

I have a summer (40°F/4°C) UGQ quilt/bag and a 3 season WM Terralite (25°F/-4°F). For extra cold weather I put the quilt/bag over the Terralite. I can also stuff a down blanket and a bag liner in the Terralite as it is very spacious, and throw a synthetic blanket over the top to keep the humidity out of the down. That and a good R-8+ pad with a Reflectix roll underneath and I can get down to about -30°F/-35°C. Layering can work super well, but be absolutely certain you test your equipment someplace safe where you can get out quickly if it goes wrong. Dying from exposure is a very easy thing to do.

[@neonsamurai1348]

Oh and if anyone is going to try layering, make sure your layers are not compressing each other (due to say the inner being the same size as the outer) as that will hurt the ability for down to loft

[@entrelepingetlepong3746]

A lot of Weight than a very good sleeping bag no ? Depend also the weatjer ?

[@wisenber]

If I'm using a sled, I'd probably go with a Wiggy's bag. Heavier and bulkier but oblivious to moisture. Most will last for decades. They're also much cheaper than down.

[@winbjorkphoto]

So good content matti! Genuine useful tips that’s worth a lot. I like when I can spent time watching a video and afterwards feel that is actually give me something, I didn’t “waste” my time. Keep up the work ✨👍👍☺️

[@geirnilssen8579]

As usual, a good video on sleeping bags. I follow you on everything you say. I live on the west coast of Norway, but hike a little bit around, mainly in the southern part of Norway, where it is not so cold as in Jokkmokk. As you, I basically use two sleeping bags, one for summer use and one for autumn/winter purpose. As I have become of age, I now pay attention to two things in addition to my sleeping bag. One - I make sure that I have a good sleeping pad underneath my sleeping bag, preferably with two reindeer hides in addition, to isolate against the ground. Two - when its gets really cold, I use a wool blanket or a "fjellduken" on top of the winter sleeping bag, to reduce heat leakage. For my use this works well and keep my warm. But, for more extreme conditions, a double sleeping bag is probably the best solution.

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

Isn’t the wool blanket very heavy??? I totally agree about how important the sleeping pads are! /Matti

[@geirnilssen8579]

@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Yes, a wool blanket is heavy. I can bring it when I am canoeing or in winter when I can bring my gear along on a sled/tobogan. If I have to carry the gear on my back, a wool blanket is too heavy.

[@zsokul66]

Another good one Matti! I learned the lesson myself in Abiskojaure. We slept at - 33 and I had only the Carinthia Def4, since then I am doubling it with the Tropen summer bag.

[@shanelyon414]

The two bag system is the goat. My Canadian Armed Forces ECW sleep system was my first, has kept me warm at -45 Celsius and very comfortable, easy to move around in. I like to use a fleece liner as base bag and add sleeping bags of varying weight for a given temperature range I expect to be in. I always Luke to have more bag than needed, you can always cool down by opening the bag but you will never be able to get warmer. I love your tip about using your bag as a blanket, I have been doing that for years in warmer weather. PS, Wiggy's offers some very good two bag systems for various temperature ratings, great bags.

[@HikingOn]

Thanks for sharing! I’m using RockFront 400UL Quilt, and it is awesome! It is 0° quilt, but I was warm in it in -4 °C too. Rockfront making great gear!

[@oc7414]

I have Nemo Disco -1C and sea to summit ember ebII -2C, These cover UK summer and through winter when combined.

[@larrymarciniuk6753]

Very useful video. I like information on various gear and how you use them in your outdoor activities. Great looking axe. Thank you for the information.

[@slowboilingleafs]

I greatly prefer a center zip in a sleeping bag. when I rotate during the night I get lost in a sidezip. I dont camp in the arctic, so my winter setup challenge is alot more about temperatures going above and below zero on the same outing. I have been told down should be able to vent better just like wool, in terms of using a sleeping bag above its intended temperature range (as in warmer weather than intended). if thats the case I might have to give down a try :)

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

Front Rock makes also quilts and other sleeping bags. /Matti

[@slowboilingleafs]

Yes their quilts looks very interesting too. Can be used with hammocks asswell (on the outside).

[@bwillan]

I prefer to use sleeping bags from Wiggys for winter camping. They may be bulky and heavy but they handle moisture like no other sleeping bags I've used.

[@toocleanpappas5397]

I wouldn't use a down sleeping bag inside a synthetic one. I'd do it the opposite way if I were going to do that. The reason being the heavier synthetic bag is going to compress the down, and down works best when it has it's full loft. And on that topic, does your inner down bag not get compressed by your outer one? It does look like your outer one is a lot bigger, so maybe that's why it works. I will say, that at first you getting multiple bags as a way to save money didn't make any sense to me. But then I saw you were using a 3 season and a summer. Considering the fact I have 2 winters (One for really really cold), one 3 season, and 1 summer, I see what you mean about saving money. haha I hike all around the world, long trails mostly, and I do agree that I always use a bag that is about 10-15 degrees F lower in rating than what I am expecting to encounter.

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

I chose the synthetic outside because it’s more resistant to dirt/moisture etc. It’s easier to wash. I see your point. It’s maybe correct. In this video I use two down bags. /Matti

[@DMAC1966]

I've got a couple of centre zipped sleeping bags I use in my Hammock and love them inc DD and Carinthia. Centre zipped bags are scarce in the UK but these look great!!

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

We have carinthia sleeping bags also. They are heavy duty. Not super light but good. /Matti

[@DMAC1966]

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Yes, they are heavy. I also used a British Army Arctic bag. Great bit of kit, but when packed, it weighed the same as a small family car😆

[@barbarianland]

You should look into Wiggy’s bags as well as their other products. They set the standard in cold weather gear

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

Thanks for input. I have to check out Wiggys. /Matti

[@russ1046]

I find your gesr videos far too interesting 😆. I have a US poncho liner and a UK jungle slerping bag for my summer options (or some wool blankets), but I think my sumer experiences have been a bit warmer! I got stuck nearly 20 years ago trying to work out what would be a good option for a 4 season bag. I went for a Ray Mears Golden Eagle - I figured Ray wouldn't steer you wrong😁. They were made by Nanok at the time. 20 years later that thing is still great. I ended up with a Nanok insulated coat/trousers/boots as a liner, but I've only used them with the summer grear - I've never been anywhere cold enough to use them inside the big bag. I'd be interested to hear ehat you think about sleeping mats. I use a foil/foam mat under an air mat when it's cold. Nice vedeo as always 👍👍

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

I have too make something about sleeping pads… You are one of several persons who had written this!!! 🤣 I think you are totally right. I have to plan a new video!!! /Matti

[@billpetersen298]

Hi, like you I use the waffle foam mat on the bottom. To prevent a puncture. Some other YT channel, did a thermal test. They concluded, that the foil/foam mat on top of the air mattress, is warmer.

[@craigbutler623]

Awesome video. The old Canadian military arctic bags were the two down bags inside each other with a goretex bivy bag, with a liner . They look very warm, but very heavy. Thank you Matti, your videos are the best.

[@AlaskanInsights]

That's a good idea for sure.

[@kenwebster5053]

My theory for calculating the combined temperature of multiple insulation layers such as sleeping bags is based on the concept of R value. That is, a layer that is worth 10 deg will make a 10 degree difference to any system it is added too. If you add it to a system that is good to 0C, the you can go to -10C. If you add it to a system that is good to +5 C, then you can go to -5C. So let's say for the sake of argument that just in your sleepwear alone, you will be comfortable at +20C. If you then have 2 bags that are good for 15 deg and 30 deg, Then the lighter bag on it's own will be OK to +5C, the heavier bag on it's own is OK to -10C & combining both bags together is good to -25C. Provided of course that the sleeping pad system matches the performance of the bag systems. No sleeping bag can ever compensate for an inadequate pad & no pad can ever compensate for an inadequate bag system. Of course, the thermal value of sleeping gear also depends on the individual & their state of nutrition. You have to eat energy to be warm, either fats or carbs.

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

I don’t really understood your calculation of the temperatures… Slow brain today! But you are totally correct. Staying warm is a question of several factors like eating, moisture, tiredness etc. /Matti

[@ronheinemann525]

Thanks Matti. Such a simple idea. You just saved me a lot of money. Much appreciated/

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

That’s great !!! /Matti

[@blackz9058]

Is the down in the sleepingbag evenly placed everywere? Some manufacturers place less down on the back because they think you sleep on the back and turn yourself inside the bag while you sleep, what i am not doing, i am turning with the whole sleeping bag...

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

I think it’s speeds out kind of equal in the sleeping bag. /Matti

[@blackz9058]

@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Ok, important, otherwise my back gets cold...

[@praetoria_]

So happy I found this. I love rock front as a brand but it’s so hard to find video reviews of their products.

[@PaulJacksonOttawa]

I love the setup I used two sleeping bags myself awesome videos always thanks for making all your great videos I follow your advice all the time.

[@Steve-vx2xp]

I use the same system in wiggy’s sleeping bags

[@Clarabel70]

Thank you for this, centre zip bags are hard to find these days!

[@FD_Boss]

The US military has a two bag cold weather sleep system, although it is of synthetic fill. Both bags are less than $300. I wonder if Swedish military has a similar system. And the US system has a waterproof bivy that goes over the bags for moisture resistance. I have the system, but have yet to use it n cold weather. I’m told it is good for below 0 Fahrenheit

[@petter5721]

Swedish military use a variant of Charintia 2 bag system as standard, Sovsäck 2000. There are many other different sleeping systems as well in use here. I have a similar system from Charintia and I have slept outdoors in -27C, works great!

[@davideriksson399]

The old system Sweden had was a down sleeping bag on the inside and a synthetic bag on the outside. Sweden, especially the northern parts, has a dryer climate than many countries so down works good.

[@johanlarsson3644]

​@@petter5721 sovsäck 2000 fick man nog bara där behovet fanns, jag gjorde lumpen -08 och vi fick sovsäckar från haglöfs och ett standard liggunderlag. Det var rätt kyligt en del nätter. Nu använder jag själv carinthia tropen och defence 4 och uppblåsbart liggunderlag kombinerat med ett vanligt liggunderlag från Bergans

[@Flickerbrain]

Good idea. Seems obvious to do but this is the first time I've seen this mentioned.

[@einfach_draussen]

Hey Matti great Video 👍 I have a Carinthia g350 and use them until - 10° Celsius. When it's colder I'll take my Exped waterbloc 600 in the Carinthia. It is a great setup and the synthetic protect the down sleepingbag Greetings from Germany

[@haeslein69]

Do you use a vapor barrier liner ?

[@Matt-vo1ge]

How do you keep the bags dry over multi-day trips 🤔 if camping without stove?

[@neonsamurai1348]

Very easy if you have a hot tent, the hot tent will naturally dry things out, just hang it up higher (flooring also helps keep the humidity down). If you don't I suggest using a synthetic outer layer (synthetic quilt) for your sleep system as body moisture will condense in it and not in the down.

[@lysan1445]

At first, I thought you were joking when you said you bought the axe for elks, but then I realised that elks can definitely be a danger. In the peace movement in the 70s, we had the slogan to convert tanks into ploughs. Your idea that the axe is made from a Russian tank reminded me. I really hope Ukraine will have peace soon and can afford to convert weapons to peaceful use. I've never considered putting a lighter sleeping bag into a warmer one. That's a good idea, but I wonder about the overall weight. I don't have a dog sledge; I carry it on my back. 😉Though the sleeping bags have become so lightweight that two together probably don't weigh more than a single old-style sleeping bag, I have to test that. It's a good idea.

[@simon7719]

Jag köpte nästan en 400 ul, men det var precis kring black friday och de hann bli slutsålda. Har dunbrallor på väg från dem istället, bland annat.

[@outdoorcinema7]

Great advice! I was thinking about that for some time and with your video I will do it. I have one down sleeping bag with comfort rating about zero degrees and maybe buy one summer sleeping bag? If I can get in that way -15 degrees it will be great!

[@kenmeyer100]

Thank you for this video.

[@helvettefaensatan]

Hva anbefaler du for noen som er allergisk mot dun? Mange soveposer?

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

Kolla på ett märke som heter Carinthia. De gör bra sovsäckar som är prisvärda MEN syntet blir tyngre och mer volym. /Matti

[@slowboilingleafs]

For syntetic CARINTHIA makes quality sleeping bags. Awesome zipper and their temperature rating is trustworthy imo. Bulky but solid and includes a quility compression bag. Have found alot of the “in style” brands featured heavily on yt have poor temp rating compared to real life. So be careful of comparing their bulk based on numbers alone.

[@putrid_swamp_juice]

Isbjørn er en norsk produsent av syntetiske soveposer. De lager også tilpassede størrelser.

[@azclaimjumper]

I especially like the center zip configuration of Rock Front Sleeping bags. I've not heard of "Rock Front" up until now. The only sleeping I have is Western Mountaineering Antelope (0ºF) it's been "overfilled" by WM. Mine has the Gore Windstopper outer fabric. WM sleeping bags are either right side or left side zippers, sadly, no center zips. You made no mention about Warranty or Customer Service? Rock Front's website says 24 months Warranty for their Sleeping bags. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada, U.S.A.

[@theswede303]

👋🏻 Dubbel sovsäck. Det var smart, hade jag nog inte kommit på själv. 😄

[@petter5721]

Standard I armén

[@bhs8732]

Thanks, great tips 👍👌

[@GarryCollins-ec8yo]

Great video! I have seen a chart that shows how good 2 sleeping bags are. I should find it. I appreciate your support of Ukraine.

[@WobblingHobGoblin]

More pro tips! Would you trust 2 synthetic bags?

[@James-ke5sx]

That was interesting. You should sleep with your dogs, ha. That is a really nice axe. I have leather strops from Beavercraft and a small knife from BPS in the mail. Cheers from Canada.

[@JasonPerez-n6d]

Great analysis, thank you! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). Could you explain how to move them to Binance?

[@MikeOutmostNorth]

Ser intressanta ut. Har du haft möjlighet att testa Rockfront i flera säsonger? Nyfiken på hållbarhet. Hälsningar från en vintertältare i Kiruna. /Micke

[@petergilbert72]

Love your joke about the axe made of Russian tanks!

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

Haaaaa… but there is one comment that the iron in Russian tanks are to low quality… 🤣 /Matti

[@petergilbert72]

@ ha ha!! 😂

[@Iron-Outdoor]

Thanks for sharing!

[@richardhenry1969]

Ill give you some poorman experience and what works for me on many adventures. I have a cheap 3 season bag. When it gets cold i take my poncho liner and line my bag. When it gets extreme ( not your country extreme) my guess 0°f /-15°f. Anyway i use old fuel type handwarmer in a wool sock. I also have a down blanket i use with the poncho liner. My setup is not the lightest the sleeping bag is rather heavy the liners weight next to nothing and i always pack them. Winter is its own animal and it separates the real outdoorsman from the glamper. Of course gear is getting better but many are taking risks without proper training or planning incase things go sideways. I had a great sleeping bag from boyscouts even used it in the military. Someone decided i didn't need it as much as they did. Such is life.

[@edgartokman4898]

Double is the way to go ... especially when it gets to -30. That will get you keep you very warm

[@bonilsson3161]

New syntetic bags considered much more flamable, a downbag was really hard to get burning.might be different but in the "old time" they were

[@bonilsson3161]

Very annoying I cant see what I write until I have sent it... New syntetic bags might be better, safer, but in the old time (1980-s) when I bought my first bag syntetig bag was considered quite flamable, downbag very hard to get burning exept the thin fabric.

[@arcadepiano]

i spent 2 grand in feathers down clothing, bed and sack from rab, ikea, cumulus and rab, and all of them has little filling, like you have to buy 2 units and use one as a donor to complete it. that's the agressive market strategy. i've been saving money because thanks to the feathers i quit using the natural gas heater at home here in spain. but i should have bought the feathers myself. i found one place it's 4 kilograms for 70 european coins. that is nothing compared to the 620 i paid for this rab summit, 700 of the rsb sack etcetera. i should get duplicated oversized clothing and sew it to normal size same clothing, with feathers in between, for a fraction of the price, and more durable.

[@Leontyk]

thank you so much for your support 🇺🇦 I have rockfront sleeping bags as well and they serve very well!

[@samhill3496]

I have a full line of Beavercraft and BPS knives sand axes. They perform very well. Yes, some invader steel. All I have to say is "UKRAINE FOREVER". My best is Ukrainian and has been fighting for over two years now. Very glad she is alive. A lot of difference camping under the stars and instead of exploding rockets and drones. We've seen horrible things first hand. Really makes one appreciate a good safe and warm camping trip. Appreciate how good we have it this holiday season. Maybe a new sleeping bag under the tree. Matti talk about the underlayment pads sometime. Four times the warth of a sleeping bag to keep you really warm without so much bulk. Matti and Stina have a great holiday season. Maybe a vid of downtown Jokkmokk with all the lights. Very nice. If I said too much well, I meant it. All good from east Kentucky USA

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

Thanks! I have collected some air mats and I have planed a video about sleeping pads. I have planned it for several years and maybe it’s time… 🤣 A video from Jokkmokk… I would love to make that… but I’m not comfortable with filming around people… Hmmm… I have too practice that! ;-) /Matti

[@vikingexperience5089]

Stop Wasting Money on Sleeping Bags, stay home he he he.. Just kidding. Thanks for the video and tips. Be safe..

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

🤣😂🤣😂 That’s true… outdoor gear is expensive. Probably cheaper with drugs! 😂 /Matti

[@yuriklaver4639]

A down sleeping without vapour barrier liner does not work on a multi-day deep winter trip. The moisture build up, combined with packing and unpacking the sleeping bag, will make the down loosing its insulation. Very dangerous! Why don't you mention this?

[@billpetersen298]

Thank you, that’s what I was thinking about. Having experienced a damp down bag, after a few days of fog and rain.

[@yuriklaver4639]

@@billpetersen298 In really low temperatures this gets much, much worse, to the point that it gets seriously dangerous. People have died from it.

[@iohann.bab.7042]

You can use 3 very cheap sleeping bags to stay warm,(square models) is better for me, I want to move my legs free inside them.

[@jim-bob-outdoors]

Also you can put a small self inflating sleep mat inside your bag if its big enough. Makes a big difference.

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

That’s new idea for me! I have to try. Do you put it between the layers of sleeping bags or inside the one you are sleeping in? /Matti

[@TonyHobbs]

I like PHD from 🇬🇧 good you mention Ukraine

[@artiknanook9189]

I asked BPS knives if they could make knives from Russian tanks. The owner told me that steel tanks is not a good compound for making knives.

[@rnrhodes9256]

Piece of Russian tank! 🤣🤣🤣

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

😉

[@dave-874]

Ok, that's not for my Summer Bicycle tour 😂.

[@АлександрЛитвин-п6и]

Цікаво чути, що норвежець ( житель Норвегії) зацікавився і використовує сокиру виготовлену українськими майстрами!)))

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

We have really good axes in Sweden also. But I opened my eyes for Ukrainian outdoor gear! They also produce tents etc. I had no clue about that before!!! /Matti

[@denislejeune9218]

Elks attack?

[@petter5721]

Yes, some are really angry and they are huge!

[@denislejeune9218]

@petter5721 jeez, never thought...

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

@denislejeune9218 when we say elks is a moose. In British English it's called elk in American English it's moose 🫎. And, yes they can be very dangerous.

[@denislejeune9218]

@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA cheers. Not a problem of language, I had no idea these animals could be an issue is all.

[@rockytopwrangler2069]

... Lol ... Nice try ,, UL in the material reference DOES NOT mean Ultra Light ....... it means Underwriters Laboratories .. the organization that rates the material fill .. and temp rating ..

[@musherstails]

As a Canadian dog musher and trapper, I don't see how a heavy axe will benefit you in an elk (moose?) encounter. Those front feet will stomp you flat before you are in range to swing the axe. I carry a saw and small axe for fire building. I also carry a gun. A light .22 or .22 mag fits in the sled bag easily. Any time I've had a mama moose blocking the trail any defense weapon is kind of useless because the dogs always go crazy and want to charge the moose. Both hands are needed to hold the sled back. An axe could be reassuring for wolves, though IF you are dealing with just one. But wolves just seem to follow the sled and are less of a concern compared to a cranky moose. Thanks for the video.

[@BJ-lw3vz__Björn_sweden]

The weapon laws are a bit different even for a .22. But I agree an axe is not so good. Bears are a bigger problem, but they are rare and shy. elk doesnt exist in europe, he mean moose. I would prefer a splitting axe. To scare the animals you need a long stick (and balls).;)

[@petter5721]

He was making a joke, he has a gun for protection 👍🏻

[@davidnachbaur5593]

Mettre un titre de vidéo en français pour parler en anglais je vois pas l'intérêt

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

In French???? No, it’s in English but I have the same issue. Sometimes KZbin translate the titel from different languages to Swedish… /Matti

[@ellerybice3787]

👉🏻🥾🥶

[@Visitkarte]

I love how you promote Ukrainian products. Piece of a Russian tank sounds awesome. 😅

[@pirogenpaddler660]

"Piece of a Russian tank sounds awesome." But it might then be of doubtful quality for a tool you have to rely on 100%, be it to chop wood or angry elks...

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

Thanks! 😉 /Matti

[@DouglasHPlumb]

Click bait. He uses sleeping bags, two in fact.

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

@DouglasHPlumb two sleepingbags are cheaper than having one for each season. So, NO, it's not clickbate. Where you live, maybe you only have two seasons, but we have four.

[@JoshSweet]

The maximum height is 197cm, so if you are tall, these won’t work

[@putrid_swamp_juice]

You could ask Rockfront if they can make a custom one. WM makes 215cm bags. Isbjorn, a Norwegian company makes synthetic sleeping bags. You can get “any” size you want. My halite overbag pro is 245cm inside as it is made to be an overbag.

[@cipher2]

i am from the US and we have given multiple billions to ukraine, that being said i would highly recommend you look into purchasing a MSS Military Sleep System made in America, this will help us continue to send money to ukraine indefinitely.

[@highlevelup1018]

what billions? That money goes to Black Rock. Told you that lie so rich could keep taking from poor without consequences.

[@patricecohen6605]

What a loose comment… Ukraine is spending a large amount in blood because USA and UK had not fulfilled their promise to protect Ukraine when it accepted to give back all the nuclear missile they had after the USSR collapse. AND All money « sent to Ukraine » by the US HAS to be spent on US products so it benefit a lot to the US manufacturers. And as it seems the US is on the way to reduce or stop help it is very important for Ukraine to be self sustained. Honestly your comment is at least Dishonest and quite disgusting. After 9/11 when the USA call for NATO article 5 and help, all European countries jump and sent people to the rescue. Now Ukraine is under siege against a dictator and in the county of freedom there is people like you… Get your facts straight please.

[@patricecohen6605]

What a loose comment… Ukraine is spending a large amount in blood because USA and UK had not fulfilled their promise to protect Ukraine when it accepted to give back all the nuclear missile they had after the USSR collapse. AND All money « sent to Ukraine » by the US HAS to be spent on US products so it benefit a lot to the US manufacturers. And as it seems the US is on the way to reduce or stop help it is very important for Ukraine to be self sustained. Honestly your comment is at least Dishonest and quite disgusting. After 9/11 when the USA call for NATO article 5 and help, all European countries jump and sent people to the rescue. Now Ukraine is under siege against a dictator and in the county of freedom there is people like you… Get your facts straight please. P.S. and if someday Putin is reclaiming Alaska I guess we should tell you to give it back right ?

[@andydawe6090]

Gentamen please this is a great Chanel there are lots wrongs and rights in this world but it would be nice to leave it behind for 12.58. Thank you

[@Trapster99]

Gor-TEX Bivy is the way to go to complete the Bag System

[@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA]

How do you avoid condensation inside the Gore-Tex bivybag? /Matti

[@selapezo1636]

Want nothing do with entities have 'rock' or .eu in their names.

[@abd9m2602]

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