STOP! You’ve Been Doing Side Laterals Wrong Your Whole Life - Here’s the Fix!

[@freedomforall1602]

For whatever reason I have not seen any videos of yours for a while, now im seeing them every third video. I may be wrong but i think i see a big difference in your build since last year. Great job coming from someone you dont give a shit about.

[@MrAlexDomingos]

I've been doing this way for almost 2 months and I've already seen results, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge ✨️

[@two5seven14]

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[@ostravamasterson4178]

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[@KSSBG]

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[@two5seven14]

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[@KSSBG]

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[@smailhommana]

You have to run away before he catch you, I warning you

[@Meepzilluh]

Wait, is he committed to being bald now? Kratos for Halloween?

[@mrgoodbar216]

Beat me to this comment. If they ever decide to make a god of war movie they got their man😂

[@Meepzilluh]

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[@Fingerling2012]

@@mrgoodbar216hes got the look yes but his voice isnt deep enough

[@NuclearCarnivore]

Great Birdseye view. Makes it much easier to understand

[@CGB.]

Factsss!!! I have been doing this for months and found massive shoulder growth and muscle engagement ❤

[@zacharyshort384]

To be sure, this method is still emphasizing the lateral/side deltoids?

[@konzrt9666]

Say hello to saps 🎉

[@artosbear]

Just get a band and do shoulder dislocates. Move inward on the band to increase the resistance, and hold it tense all the way through the movement. Go slow. Start with an amount of tension that you can easily hold with little strain to get used to the movement until your mobility increases. Only move to the next heavier band when it's no longer practical to move inward on the band and you can do a fair amount. It works the entire shoulder complex beautifully and I never really grew my delts a whole lot until I started doing those

[@Blap552]

I might need surgery on the l/s. But I'll give it 8weeks of rotator cuff rehab and see if the pain stops.😏

[@ALushPair]

Your advice is always stellar, thanks!

[@FlexituP]

This movement injured my shoulder and made me lose months of gains while I spent time with my PT tryna find way to lateral raise again. Do not keep your pinkies up when lat raising

[@lil_sumpinsi9961]

Just use common sense. Don’t ego lift, you shouldn’t be raising more than 15 pounds. Listen to your body, go slow . I’m in PT school and was taught if I wanted to bias the middle delt this is what you would do. Just make sure your stabilizing muscles are strong. Work your Lower trap mid trap , Supra infra and serratus and you’ll be fine as long as you are mindful of

[@damienkphoto]

Skill issue

[@flicklick6776]

Depends on the person. If you have mobility and use this and it feels good, then do so.

[@antp999]

​@@lil_sumpinsi9961 absolutely correct.

[@Toot-xl6qt]

All I heard is you outlifted your body. I can comfortably lateral raise 40s for reps but I rarely go above 25 extra slow, controlled the entire way. Def sounds like operator error.

[@jtkuhne8722]

These have been blowing up my shoulders. 💪🏻

[@jonbyers84]

Been utilizing this movement for several months now and its amazing!

[@onurbole7921]

I do it lying on my side, single arm. The dumbbell touches the side of my thigh at the bottom of each rep. Not Arnold style where you would bring the bar in front of your body to stretch the shoulder more, because then it becomes a rear delt exercise. When your arm rests on the side of your body, side delts are already stretched enough. But when you do it standing, there is no resistance in that position. So if you never felt sore in your side delts, or if your progress has slowed down, give it a shot. It is a humbling exercise, you will even use like half the weight compared to standing lateral raises, but once you adapt to the movement you will progress quickly, and your shoulders will grow. It hits the side delt even better than cables.

[@Mr_NB628]

I’ve been flaring my lats because it felt more natural. You could also just do a full range of motion all the way up to where you touch the back of your hands together above your head and then go slow all the way down. I use 15 pound dumbbells for like a set of 20. Tell me your side delts, aren’t screaming.

[@tonynorris1506]

TIPS: This is a partial movement and can be done at the end of a set to burn the delts out, a warmup, or a finisher using light weight... Do NOT focus on lifting upward, focus on PUSHING OUTWARD with your elbows and not raising very high... Also, the importance of flairing your lats/protracting scapula is that it puts your shoulders into a non impinged position and your forearms will shift in front of your elbows and it will feel comfortable. (you can do this out to the side also, as Charles Glass teaches)... Again, this is not a normal lateral raise, its more of an auxiliary movement. Find the sweet spot for your forearm position relative to your elbows and push them outward, and this movement removes the anterior delt from being worked and targets the rearmost fibers of your side delts where they flow into the rear delts and cap off above the long head of your triceps.... I do alternating raises with this kind of stuff to focus on each arm...

[@allsmilesguy]

Work on shoulder mobility before trying this and warm up a lot in general before doing anything shoulder related. These 2 things removed my shoulder issues and I can even do heavy side laterals with no issues.

[@MattGarcyaDC]

What shoulder mobility exercises you do

[@allsmilesguy]

@ My go to two that work the best are Band Pull Aparts and Band Shoulder Dislocates and I do them before any upper body movements. I highly recommend you buy some workout bands if you don’t already have access to some. Super cheap and very useful Banded adduction and external rotation are great too for strengthening the rotator cuff specifically.

[@sng3939]

Idk about this. Rotating your shoulders can be dangerous especially under load. Just do them as you normally would in the scapular plane ofc. But I’d also throw in a cable version so you’re hitting both the shortened and lengthened ends.

[@Tylos21]

This method absolutely kills my shoulders,no thank you.

[@stevenmoore3480]

no wonder it is simply an upright row with straight arms, the angle of rotation is almost exactly the same.

[@kyle21843]

Agreed. My shoulders hurt just watching it. And my lateral delts have significantly increased from mostly lateral raises anyway

[@ariklotia3958]

Works for me but I modified it to my rom

[@justsayin4632]

Pinky higher than thumb? Guaranteed shoulder impingement.

[@tristenduenes6213]

All of you need to do it correctly or yeah it's gonna fucking hurt. I suggest trying it with your purse 1st. If it's too heavy, dump all the fucking tampons out and try again.

[@Jadenv36]

If your shoulders are messed up try this same movement light for reps with cables, been a game changer for me

[@ethanvera1031]

Game changer for fixing your shoulder pain or for muscle growth??

[@Jadenv36]

@@ethanvera1031 muscle growth, feels less harsh on the joint for me but I can still go to failure without injuring myself

[@rhetorical1488]

with 3 shredded tendons how much game changing can i expect? ;)

[@Jadenv36]

@@rhetorical1488 I’d give up on big shoulders

[@rhetorical1488]

@@Jadenv36 doc told me to find a desk job told her im not trading one pain for another 😄

[@silentZedz]

I just do single arm side raises… let’s you concentrate way more… less neck strain too

[@danski6694]

Damn. Just sitting here in my chair i tried it with zero weight - my side delt is rock solid and fully engaged just moving my hand in the direction Ryan says Thanks!

[@WallySoto-yi8fz]

Excellent advise! An artificial starting point!

[@brendonleerogers1794]

My side delts got sore for the first time doing this movement pattern. Thank you ❤

[@kosikowy]

Don't do this. You are going to end up with shoulder injury which you will hardly probably barely recover from.

[@BobRoss-wm3lc]

@@kosikowyare you trolling or being serious?

[@bernardparker3390]

This variation took the load off my beat up rotator cups!! Thanks

[@sn7miller]

I found i can do it exactly this way without shoulder impingement; pronate palms, protract scapula (flaring lats), lift in the scapula plane and even lead with the pinky...KEY is dont go to high, not even to parallel, exactly the way he is showing, otherwise you can injure shoulder.

[@mgvortex66]

Yea this method(the one in the short) would cause me severe discomfort. I have to do it the D+ way 😅

[@MattGarcyaDC]

How do I know if flared my lats out if I barely got lats

[@tonynorris1506]

​​@@MattGarcyaDCretract scapula and pull your shoulders down it puts your shoulder in a less internal position at the joint, then your forearms will tilt forward in front of your elbows naturally, and then you push outward with your elbows/forearms until they stop, it's a partial movement due to limited ROM.. Do NOT do this as a primary lateral raise, use light weight and do it either as a warm up, after each set of normal lateral raises, OR, as a finisher... It's meant to burn out the rear portion of the side delts where they meet the rear delts which are often hard to isolate.... Once you see your forearms go a bit in front of your elbows they'll lead the way and you'll find the sweet spot

[@tonynorris1506]

Most people don't realize that stuff like this takes mind-muscle connection and the fine tuned things learned over time (advanced level).... He doesn't mention 1 important key which is to PUSH outward in a partial ROM, rather than lifting like a lateral raise.. Charles Glass does these but out to the side... I do them both ways often at the end of light sets to further burn out but i had to find the sweet spot in different areas. For example, What people don't realize is that he says to fully Internally rotated to start out, but once you retract the scapula and pull your shoulders downward, the forearms tilt a tad forward rather than the forearms being below the elbow being the shoulder joints become a bit more neutral and not impinged, even though elbows are in an internally rotated position... With firearms a tad forward, push outward and lead with elbows/forearms (and as you said, pinkies) I do these partials in different directions to burn out after sets, or sometimes as a warmup or finisher... I also do alternating movements while doing shoulder exercises, especially side and rear delt movements... I've realized 2 arms at once not only hinders strength, but also ROM, and often 1 side gets stronger than the other creating a visible imbalance as 1 side isn't connecting/contracting the same when using DBs. That's a whole other can of worms though.

[@dadocta404]

You are the best man, taught me so much!!!!

[@teggggR]

Yea, i was fucked for months and couldn't do shit after this without pain, strong pass.

[@joshjosh575]

Congrats on your wife’s boyfriend and her finally having a baby. Happy for you three. Tyrone and you will make great dads, really happy that you updated us on baby shafiek. He’s gonna be strong with Tyrone crazy genetics and your training. But brother keep hitting the gym your dad bod showing. Hopefully you are not regretting all this. She’s a great women, and your confidence as a man is amazing. Congrats. Don’t listen to the haters.

[@coly0226]

These have worked great for me. The part 2-3 times I’ve tried them, my side delts hand felt pumped. I usually struggle to get a lot of response from my side delts so I’ll quite happy to perform this exercise on shoulder days.

[@Issyjos]

This with the hammer grip front raise that he talks about in the video gave me a better pump for my front and side delts than I’ve ever had doing regular overhead presses and laterals

[@MattGarcyaDC]

Yep

[@captainbc52]

To add one more wrinkle to this situation... I like to do mine unilateral. I don't know why, but it helps me focus more on a single muscle and at the bottom it allows me to bring the weight almost to the opposite hip to get a good stretch on the deltoid at that starting position

[@jamessanchez6512]

So I can’t work this plane if motion, I can do side and front raises but when I go on the natural plain I get injured, unsure if it is because I trained like this for so long the natural position is unnatural or just from previous neck/shoulder injuries. Any incite would be appreciated

[@haroldobrien4322]

OK, I'll give it a try. But, the delt exercise I like the most is the Scott Press. I do side front and rear delt moves, .. AND the Sott Press. I don't lift a lot of weight, I focus on form and reps. Frankly I feel the best connection to the entire delt with the Scott Press. Have you ever analyzed the Scott Press?

[@ea5437]

Can you share the full video?

[@spritelylad]

After doing lying unilateral dumbbell lateral Ill never do standing side raises again they are so inferior in comparison and don't follow the resistance curve correctly.

[@mohammadhosseinmalekzadeh1762]

Flaring the lats isn't protraction, it's upward rotation, which the serratus anterior should be activated for

[@BahamasConch242]

PInky finger up works better for me as well. The elbow shouldn't go above shoulder level. This works

[@musyclover]

My favourite channel atm 🤔

[@MannyMambit0]

Did these and the delt soreness is insane! Never got sore like that before. And I just did 5 sets of 20 with 3lb weights 😮

[@nboss968]

You should always work in the scapular plane when working shoulders. Also you want to lead with the elbows not the wrists that helps to keep the traps out of it.

[@jinrusso7993]

Im doing lateral raises on cables and im good with those 😊

[@Mark-ye8ro]

Won't this hit more rear delt?

[@locbigt5708]

definitely funny looking but I'll try anything to beef up my small narrow shoulders, especially because I can't do any presses because of my bad shoulder. I'll give em a try. 🤞🏼👍🏽

[@ashbooth1817]

I thought you got a hair transplant?

[@udayvarma756]

He got cancer

[@blueSfire77]

​@@udayvarma756 💀💀💀

[@tastefullthickness]

it was meant to be

[@ianidas300]

He had to seed Bermuda for the summer and reseed St Augustine for the winter

[@El_Bellota]

Stem cell therapy, no follicles moved.

[@lookwhatimplanning1270]

Even looking at it looks like it would load the front delt more than the lateral head. I’ll try it in the gym just for funsies but doesn’t look good for shoulder health at all.

[@jamesbarker9895]

My rotator cuffs are Fd due to decades of doing these too heavy and with poor form. We did lots of lifts wrong in the 80s

[@SMDoktorPepper]

I did alter how I did this because of this full video, mostly to try and protect my shoulder joints that are in very painful shape

[@pubjitsuguy8596]

You know what Ryan…………….ur a pretty good communicator my man. Ive been training for 4 decades have never turned hands in like this but faking lets do this

[@takeenr2461]

Please please don’t do this it will mess up shoulders

[@Nate-yb4ox]

Thanks! They've felt wrong for so long

[@itsthatguy6878]

just do it lying on a bench or with a cable and protracting the shoulder blades makes you much weaker which limits the load and is not beneficial enough to sacrifice the load imo but thats debatable and highly individual.

[@glennmccoy1746]

Thoughts on getting a hair transplant?

[@awtzzzzzzz2151]

This eliminate trap recruitment thereby properly isolating the side delts. If you messed up your shoulder thats because youre doing too heavy and the traps that is helping you is all gone. So go light.

[@MatthewRyan7]

Doing this now and seeing stars as the connection is spot on

[@marc2638]

All I know is this,,,, side laterals no matter the version and decline bench wrecks my shoulder rotator cuffs every freaking time!!!!!! Once I put load on those exercises and I I start to push thru those the first couple 3-4 weeks is fine after that I’ll Injure my rotator cuff (right side only 🤔🤔) to the point to where I can’t sleep right, can’t hold anything push pull carry lift it’s a sad state of affairs and worst of all I can’t lift now for a solid 6 months. I’ve learned to do shoulder press’s lifting up the weight with my left shoulder switching it to my right picking up the left and doing my sets, keep in mind it’s not my shoulder muscle injured it’s my internal rotator cuff so I can still lift heavy somewhat but I can’t lift the weight up to the starting position I immediately lose strength!! I’ve had it this has been an on going thing now For about 2 years!!! I’ll heal up start all over again reinjure my shit can’t work out the way I want and of course it effects everything else, once I heal here no more sides or declines for me nope!! Some exercises just don’t work for me anyway I guess it’s time to figure out what those are and stop wasting my time and staying away from them, I don’t bench I do the seated chest press instead works my chest way better, side laterals not sure what I’ll replace those with but shoulder presses with DB or Barbells and military presses all work almost all three heads anyway

[@Redbirdsfan1970]

I've had two shoulder surgeries and this exercise is common for a PT to assign. They call it empty soup can. I wouldn't want to do this for any kind of weight.

[@bigcwh2010]

Added these to my regimen - side delts haven’t felt this sore in a while.

[@jigneshlase335]

Lateral raises plus

[@stevef2114]

Ummm I’ve tried so many things and find this defo doesn’t work for me. Arms with a slight bend and slightly infront works for me. Or with very heavy weight partials with arms to the side and simply raise.

[@checkitout3518]

These are amazing! Thanks!

[@chall5335]

Then how come basically nobody is doing them? Don’t you think someone reliable in the exercise scientific field would have figured that movement out and talked about it if it actually was the better option?

[@wickedincinc]

You do what works for you. I'm 6'1" but my 6'7" wingspan makes this way of doing them MUCH more effective (for me at least)

[@chall5335]

The exception doesnt work as an explination of the rule, good for you though

[@larrymiller1426]

Thanks

[@Mike-xq7ib]

The idea of 100% isolating only the one muscle targeted by the exercise is sorta crazy tho when you think about it. Are you training a single muscle group or are you training a movement (and therefore several groups)? Idk I'll try it but I'm skeptical.

[@historyofhumankind1420]

Its difficult try it with lighter weight practice few reps then i scale to manageable weight its amazing it works

[@NewmanJC2784]

Brodie, I love you. But that's not for me. I just tried it 2 hours later I'm feeling a pinch on the anterior delt up in the shoulder. I can't risk impingement! Is there another way?

[@Kal-el1999]

I been having trouble with my delts. Im definitely gonna try. Thanks. Great videos

[@BobRoss-wm3lc]

Did you try?

[@BalSingh6546]

Love the vids getting me 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[@lostboy2637]

If you think about it makes sense... when using the lateral raises machine my palms naturally wanted to twist inwards but couldn't on the machine.

[@renegadeatherton8058]

Does the pronation directly help the shoulder to activate at all or is it just to help prevent your biceps from taking over?

[@Ishansharma26-g5b]

Insane ❤❤❤

[@CapnJrod]

Ive got pretty long arms and i started doing my side laterals this way a while ago and they feel infinitely better and my right shoulder dosnt hurt after. Funny i didnt know this was actually a movement i kinda just adjusted the movement myself to be more conformable

[@latinochrome]

Whoa there cowboy, make sure to tell people to stick with standard and basic exercises first before moving on to advanced movements. Now I can perform this exercise, but never would have done this even 20 years ago.

[@fiddlepants5947]

Yup, this looks like a recipe for shoulder impingement complicated with trap knots

[@chriscockton5936]

Disagree. Having tested this personally, this feels 100% better than your typical side lateral.

[@latinochrome]

@@chriscockton5936 Happy lifting! 💪🏼

[@audiman7716]

I agree with you 100%. This DOES NOT build your lateral head anymore more that standard lateral raises. Even if it did, you’re looking at a tiny fraction of a percentage but the risk factor is too high. Go watch Mike Van Wyck. His method of rocking blew my sides up with zero pain

[@beerus101]

Its a way to reinvent the wheel to create content for KZbin.

[@yonagwy5826]

I have a challenge for you. What exercises can someone do with a boxer fracture?

[@KevinsKontentKorner]

This is a hard movement to master. It’s just hard to lift with your delt and delt only. Usually I don’t feel a good mind muscle connection until halfway through the set

[@furyroad7565]

Tore my rotator a long time ago as a teenager with this BS great advice from someone I thought knew what they were doing. No I didn't ask for it. That was '93. Prior to that I had been working out for 6 yrs with no injuries or pain. Still dealing with it off and on. I became a trainer and still try to help against all the BS advice that everyone still gives. Especially try to help teenagers who look up to people who "look like they know what they are talking about".

[@traekiser213]

It’s hard for me to take advice from someone I know is using so much gear that I’ll never gain anything besides injured joints from following their programs

[@JakeNahal]

Brother did the stem cells hair growth work or no?

[@danski6694]

Did these today. Didn’t really like them. Felt awkward. Although i think i forgot to protract my scaps. I think that part is the key

[@TheManic.5-OH]

Why don't you guys paint above your lighting grid straight black? It would look so much better in there

[@johnmckinney9229]

What's really sad is how nobody fallows this correctly, or understands how/why it works. But ready to tell u, u wrong. If u hurt yourself doing these.. u suck at working out.. I've been using this method, injuries free, and wider shoulder. It does work better than regular side raises, and is safe- done within reason...

[@ericfargo7293]

I just did it without weights and I could really feel it

[@stiflingmystrife]

How much weight should I use? And delts does this hit ?

[@whosMandoo]

I’d warm up with 10’s just so you get a feel of the weight and slowly increase from there. Develop good form before you obliterate your shoulders

[@spontaneousbootay]

side delts

[@passerau]

Wait what happened to your PRP and the FUI procedures?...

[@ericdominguez3405]

What supplements stack or SARMs you take

[@TheMagicManIrl]

pop goes the shoulder

[@redpillthinking6043]

Cables are more optimal for lateral raises.

[@cynicist8114]

Why not just do side raises instead? Lateral raises seem highly overrated to me.

[@garyshilton9502]

Looks good I’m trying that

[@digitalsage5636]

Normal dumbell lateral raises has been used for years to build muscle. Sure.. There are other exercises way better than this like the cable raise.

[@smithy2]

I've been trying this for a few weeks, not sure im feeling it hitting them so much

[@mark2256]

Brother... Can you just tell me what the effective way to do side delts is? Because it seems like every time I come to your channel, there's another best way to do it

[@polferr3595]

How old are this guys?

[@alc8463]

I REALLY hurt my neck doing side lateral raises.

[@therealfastmart]

How'd that stem cell treatment work for your hair?

[@chadgraber4575]

What kind of tank top?

[@johnmckinney9229]

Nice, bro your awesome

[@XAzzuroX]

My question is are you still doing this method ?

[@someartist7278]

Thanks Kratos.

[@joshuanielsen7922]

Great video! Also I love your ceiling lighting! I need that!

[@lamasimon9421]

Did the stem cells stop working for regrowing your hair?

[@read2gainknowledge]

This works well thx