Stormlight's Heralds | Post-ROW Analysis

Ah crem, here we go again
Spoilers for Rhythm of War. Proceed accordingly.
The Urithiru model in this video can be found here: swinnydesign.gumroad.com/l/JvvmZ
00:00 - Opening
00:51 - Jezrien
02:12 - Nale
03:36 - Chanarach
04:02 - Vedel
04:29 - Pailiah
05:31 - Shalash
06:28 - Battar
07:44 - Kalak
11:03 - Taln
12:44 - Ishar
15:04 - Theories Intro
15:36 - C+L=S
17:39 - The Assassin
19:57 - More Ishar
21:56 - Conclusion

[@insertname5371]

what we have learned from this is only one herald was required. Taln is that one guy in a college project just holding up the entire thing.

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Hahahah this is so accurate!

[@bennettjones459]

Taln is the hero Roshar needed, not the hero Rashar deserves

[@danielbroome5690]

I like that Kalak is aware enough about his condition that he gives Adolin some really good, and frank advice that allows him to manipulate the verdict of the trial ultimately.

[@ferminballesteros7462]

I want to see Taln breakkng Nale's back full on Name style

[@joannen1738]

These theories are so awesome! The transitions are super cool cool. Yhanks for the info dump!

[@flornygrob]

Just found your channel. I'm so happy lmao

[@whyonthefall5373]

Great video. A theory I believe strongly in is that Siah Aimians are Ishar'd Honourspren. (I think that's been theorised long ago, though). Honestly, Rhythm of War was so extreme in terms of wider-Cosmere exploration, I thought less than half of it would be in SA 5, let alone book 4. As for the Heralds, well, they're the keys to Roshar's past. They're definitely going to be very significant. (I'd also love to see them interact with other Cognitive Shadows like Vasher and Kelsier)

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Oh wow, I've never heard this before, bit it seems like one of those hits that's right in the open but everyone misses the first time around. I'm adding this to my list of theories........

[@crazyscotsman9327]

I have two hopes for Taln Herald of War and with the largest stones on Roshae. I hope he gets better. Two I want to see him fight preferably I want him to fight Nale and break that traitor like a god damn twig.

[@CrisOfRoshar]

I mean. I can't really blame any of the heralds from their actions, their minds are not working properly as a result of their self-sacrifice. If anything you could say they were naive to believe they could maintain the fused in Braize forever.

[@crazyscotsman9327]

@@CrisOfRoshar I mean sure. But I blame Nale for killing Radiants, perverting Justice by finding any crime and using it to kill people. (Let alone betraying mankind.)

[@KosmosKostas]

He's back! Great video and hope you're doing well, keep it up you absolute legend

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Thank you!!!

[@robertoleary5470]

Love the art of Pailiah. It’s beautiful.

[@arlopaden9794]

Another awesome video I don't know how I'd keep track of all the obscure cosmere stuff without your videos

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

You could try going on the official Sanderson wiki, but bring food. You might get trapped there for a few days It's happened to me before

[@arlopaden9794]

@@LoreoftheWorlds thanks, ill give it a look

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

@@arlopaden9794 coppermind.net/wiki/Coppermind:Welcome Proceed with caution 😁

[@chaos_walking4022]

Another great video! I always enjoy watching them, and this update on the Heralds is much needed, given the way Stormlight is going to go. I must admit, I'm not the biggest fan of the "Shallan's mother is Chanarach" theory, but that is mostly because of the lack of more concrete evidence and the fact I subscribe to the idea that Rayse found another way to escape Braize. Something far more interesting, that may or may not involve the Everstorm, which never existed until this Desolation, which in itself is proof that Rayse was trying new and creative ideas. I'll be honest, I've not put as much thought into the process Ishar was using to pull spren into the Physical Realm. Upon my next sets of rereads, I'll have it on my mind. But I must repeat myself when I say that I thoroughly enjoyed this video. You make easily the best Cosmere videos out there on KZbin (baring anything on Sanderson's channel) and I'm always looking forwards for your next video! (Although, I miss your intro featuring most of the planets)

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Thank You! I don't know if I believe the shallan mother theory either, but it definitely is one of the more interesting explanations as to what's going on there. And the planets intro is probably coming back, I just felt this video in particular felt much smoother by jumping right in. I'm working on updating it for future videos, but that might take a bit of time. I can't wait for the back 5 books - Sanderson has said there is a much bigger emphasis placed on the heralds, which brings up some interesting questions about how the finale of the first half might play out.

[@yeshevishman]

What a great comprehensive overview of where the heralds stand rn! I'm certainly looking forward to seeing what the heck Ishar is up to. One thing I want to bring attention to that you didn't mention was the fact that Dalinar somehow used his bondsmith powers to TEMPORARILY BREAK ISHAR'S MADNESS!!! This has some major implications about the heralds in general, as well as Ishar himself! First off, this shows that the heralds madness possibly comes from a lack of Connection to Honor, which makes me wonder a lot about Taln. Since he didn't break, it is possible that his madness is only the result of his long time spent on Braize and NOT because he's disconnected with honor. His madness doesn't twist his intentions as when we first see him, he's acting like the herald he should be (albeit traumatized), and he does seem to be less 'crazy' and more just depressed once he finds out what happened with the other heralds. Next, Ishar himself says during the 'reConnection' (if I may call it that), that Dalinar must come to Shinovar to help reset the Oathpact. I think he has a way to resurrect Honor (or at least his power) using Dalinar and possibly helping him take up the shard with his bondsmith powers. What will ultimately happen remains to be seen...

[@macmay3042]

Storms, this animation is crazy.

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Thank you! I spent the last year-ish teaching myself blender, and there is plenty more fun animation to come. Maybe even sooner than you would think......

[@lucilabj]

Great video as always! I get particularly confused with everything regarding heralds so it's perfect to have all the updated info here. Loved the Urithiru animation! Good to see you back! edit: I had no idea about the WOB of Taln not breaking (WHAT), bought the theory about Shallan's mother, loved the 10/10 Rasputin.

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Glad you enjyed it, and glad to be back!

[@Girentina242]

Bro if Shallan was inadvertently responsible for the Final Desolation by killing her mom and she LEARNS this? Her mental will delete itself completely lmao, we're gonna get like an avengers squad of new Veils 🤣

[@DiazGee]

great channel, keep up the good work!

[@nuggetdoja871]

I just wanna see some heralds battling with their badassery

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

You and me be both, bud

[@Okillydokilly69]

Solid cosmere channel . I guess I’m subscribing 😂 . At this point there is no room in my feed for comedy or thirst trap thumbnails of women’s sports . 😂 . Just shard theories , different types of investesture and other cosmere videos

[@snagsTS]

Good recap thanks. I don't think Ishar is trying to fuse people and spren though. I think the organs are a very real side effect of spren physically manifesting in a world they aren't supposed to exist in physically. Yes, as ideas and forces they can interact with the world to a degree, but they don't fully exist there. Pulling them from Shadesmar into the physical world forces them to manifest there and abide by the rules of the physical world, causing the ramshackle biology as a consequence. I think 😂

[@orrinscott-stewart3641]

That theory about Shallan's mother is intriguing and you might just be right. But why would she name her daughter after Ash lol.

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Good question! I hadn't thought about that before. It could have been her father that named her, or she was just close with Ash. They did spend millennia getting tortured together, after all.

[@bennettjones459]

It seems like Ishars overarching goal has something to do with altering spirit webs?

[@havewissmart9602]

C+L=S??? What is this, the GOT fandom 😂?

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Bahahahahha you caught me

[@SpectralLuna6277]

15:40 Now with the draft of the 5th Book Intro this seems to be very much so.... Chilling... Charanch broke not Tal

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

I feel so vindicated!!!!

[@macmay3042]

I'm not sold on Chanarach as Shallan's mom. Mostly, I just don't buy that she can get sniped by a kid, surprise shardblade or no. They are all supposed to be preternaturally gifted warriors. I'm also not at all sure how I feel about the Breaking. Somehow, a ton of voidspren came across, some of them years ago. Before, even, Shallan's mom died, unless I'm getting my Ulim timeframe confused. How did the Fused come back before? Why are they always doing it via the Everstorm now? Would a Herald being dead and on Braize even hold them at this point?

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Do we know for sure where on the timeline ulim came over? Could it have been from gavilars experiments?

[@macmay3042]

@@LoreoftheWorlds That's possible. Didn't that Terriswoman give him to Venli? Is that something Gavilar would have done on purpose? Was he tricked?

[@richmondamoah4536]

Am I weird for thinking that besides Ishar the other Heralds are not really that crazy. I see their actions as something any other human might make based on their motives albeit a little quirky

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

I definitely agree the more I think about it. I'd say crazy isn't necessarily the right word to describe what's going on with them.

[@nolanmartin3573]

no link in the top right corner for me

[@VampireFaith]

Am I the only bothered by moi-sh instead of Moe-Ash. He is clearly not a proper vorin man...

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Ha! Its a reference to a video I made last year where i deliberately mispronounce Moash the entire video up until the very end. The other mispronunciations are... less calculated. Ha. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apTUdJuIra9parM

[@thomasbrown8462]

"Slimey cremling named 'Mmoish'"... Named what now? Pronounced "Moh-Ash" bro, say it with me :D

[@LoreoftheWorlds]

Moe-ish Shoot Moo-ahsh Dang it

[@TheCosmerenaut1]

The problem with chanarach is that Brandon explicitly said “why would you think that?” “The storm father told you that was impossible.” Maybe I’m missing something

[@reklessbravo2129]

Brandon loves to troll people. Iirc that one was said in a pretty trolly voice