Story of the Toxic Poker Rivalry between Daniel Negreanu and Annie Duke

The fact that Annie Duke and Daniel Negreanu don't like each other is one of the worst kept secrets in poker. Yet, what most don't grasp is the depth of their longstanding poker rivalry. This is the story of the decade long poker rivalry between Daniel Negreanu and Annie Duke.
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Time stamps
0:00 The History
1:30 The First Feud
4:04 Second Encounter
9:42 Third Confrontation
13:25 Round Four
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[@TonyEnglandUK]

just show the video and hush, that commentary was painful

[@skinnie2838]

If the word "toxic" is in your vocabulary. You are soft, as f

[@awilliams5007]

Pocker buonty go away. no one cares

[@billywestom]

My first World Series was 2005. I was in a $1500 event and moved into Annie’s table. She busted, and Negreanu ended up filling her old seat. Once he found out it was her old seat, he made a grossed-out gasp and pulled sanitary wipes out of his backpack and wiped down the rail and chair😂. It was a weird and memorable moment for a first timer with the pros lol.

[@narutoinwwe3]

That’s great! 😂😂

[@timcross2510]

That's not mean...ITS FUNNY

[@resurection96]

hahah that's great

[@jamiehammond7401]

Lol

[@EGarrett01]

He said once (IIRC) that she takes her shoes off and sits on her feet in the chair, so that might be why.

[@smith077906]

Calling Howard a legit businessman is like calling Colonel Sanders a war veteran

[@jacobsanders2861]

Woah woah woah. Easy on the chicken man!

[@rohieram724]

Wasn't he one of those who was involved in a crooked online poker website?

[@Ehdidnxkd]

LOL

[@jukebox1138]

Colonel sanders served in the military and was part of the second occupation of Cuba from 1906-1909.

[@robertbeuck7556]

"Hey ! They don't call me the Colonel 'cause I'm some dumbass Army guy" - Homer Simpson

[@Colechamdiceman]

Daniel is known for having a pretty impeccable ability to read people... And it seems he read her pretty well

[@Account-fu3jl]

Hahaahhahahah 😂

[@frankfriel1511]

Annie Duke and Howard Lederer both proved to be despicable human beings after the early controversies surrounding online poker and their involvements in cheating, stealing and essentially making it untenable for anyone to play on the sites they endorsed. They unfortunately got Chris Ferguson caught up in the mess as well. Not that Chris deserves any less hostility from the poker community.

[@artful1967]

I wouldn't give her the time of day. SHe, however, would sell it to you then steal it back

[@jacksparrow3490]

All of them benefited from it.. even ivey

[@dashx1103]

"There cousins, identical cousins all the way ... one pair of matching bookends, different as night and day!"

[@horsecockexpress7612]

annie howard and daniel are all prolific losers

[@Mr_Dopey]

They're siblings aren't they?

[@Cap10VDO]

Sooo...this public feud all started when DN commented about an unnamed female player's bad behavior. Then HOWARD outed Annie as the unnamed female, while claiming to be defending her? Nice move, Perfesser.

[@luishenriquez8824]

Thank god someone said exactly what I was thinking 🧐

[@algoner4421]

I thought I had missed something too. Lol. Daniel kept her private, and then Howard names her and calls Daniel out .....precursor of how Howard really was? 🤔

[@Passypass4]

I mean Howard is her brother, makes sense he was trying to stick up for her, though I don't think Daniel is wrong

[@rickwren7474]

As someone who was defrauded out of thousands in the Full Tilt collapse, I come down hard on against the crook, Howard, and his crooked sister.

[@mattcoffee1269]

i lost $84, and it still hurts.......

[@johnskrb]

Please detail how you were defrauded out of thousands in the FT collapse. We were all made whole after the purchase, and there would've never been a problem if the feds had not shut down the site. We should all be mad at the feds.

[@mattcoffee1269]

i never got my $84, you are mistaken....... @@johnskrb

[@ladiesman2222003]

​@@johnskrbFull tilt owners were using players funds. They were taking money that wasnt theirs. The fact that pokerstars eventually made players whole doesnt change the fact that their money was stolen by full tilt ownership.

[@johnskrb]

@@ladiesman2222003 They did not have the player funds separate from operating funds, but the site was still solvent. It's track towards insolvency started when they still allowed US players to continue to play and credit with a "deposit" even though FT could not always complete the financial withdrawal from US accounts. FT had started to execute / complete those back transactions when they feds shut them down. So, the US fed UIGEA illegally (i.e., they had no legal right to stop me from gambling) caused the first problem, and then they stepped in to stop FT from getting around their restrictions, which is what they really cared about (they did not care about protecting me and you).

[@cforte0423]

So Danial takes the high road and doesn’t name the female then Howard names her and blames Daniel for being petty. WTF?

[@danjtams]

True, but again, Howard and Annie are brother and sister so that’s why he stuck up for her so vehemently.

[@Nash9r]

Hard to imagine she did not know about Howard's scam

[@williamgullett5911]

Of course she knew. At least that’s how I would bet on it

[@Sharkygames811]

her bf won ahuge torny just found this she denies being in chat wtf. Im not sure if this is same torny. I just found this post. To people saying there is no "proof" of Annie cheating, her boyfriend was using her account and she continually denied knowing who the user was in her commentary for the final table of that 1k tournament. She even goes out of her way to say, "Who could this unknown be?" multiple times. It was her boyfriend who took down a 1k tournament on a website that was proven to be fraudulent and she denies even knowing who the guy is(maybe because people would put, 2 and 2 together? which makes her come out looking worse for denying it)

[@royearl1094]

she was in with russ hamilton also on ub .she stole there stole here stole everywhere .she probably just drew at everything like a fish cause we were paying for it on ft .fher

[@DUHPAWZ2579]

First of all Annie and Howard are brother and sister and they ruined they're own reputations by stealing money off people Daniel seen it years before

[@normheske6404]

Strange that the video makes no mention that Howard is her brother. Does he not know?

[@RR-yr4sd]

Did Annie steal from people? it all sounds like she just slightly annoyed people despite this hit piece.

[@DUHPAWZ2579]

@@RR-yr4sd yes on the show she had

[@RR-yr4sd]

@@DUHPAWZ2579 Hi. what show?

[@DUHPAWZ2579]

@@RR-yr4sd 👀 it up just google it

[@jenkinsljenkinssquire9137]

That's classic that Howard wrote a scathing letter to Daniel and this is the guy that scammed people. Always easier to point out faults in others.

[@rohieram724]

How is Howard doing these days? Poker News says that Daniel is the 7th richest poker player in America with a net worth of $70 M in poker winnings. They ranked two players ahead of him but they didn't make their fortunes from only poker.

[@danjtams]

Howard is Annie’s brother so that’s why he did it.

[@rohieram724]

@@danjtams he is a thief!

[@dawsonje]

Funny that the “esteemed members” were ferguson and Lederer. Two of the most hated people in all of poker

[@seanof30306]

To be fair, Ferguson was the only person who'd profited off of Full Tilt to give back all his profits so it could be returned to the players. It was easy for him to do so; Ferguson's richer than god from software he's written, but Phil Gordon's even richer and he didn't give any money back.

[@sc0mo786]

Hated now, but revered back then. Before everyone found out about their scam.

[@thecocktailian2091]

Too bad about Jesus. He got in bed with some bad people. They brought an otherwise good guy down.

[@xavierharding8938]

@@sc0mo786 Lederer always seemed like a huge POS, Ferguson seemed cool tho.

[@jeremiahOz]

@@sc0mo786True, it wasn’t just about the scam and the impact to their customers, it practically hosed online poker as we knew it.

[@antzooma]

Howard Lederer lecturing people on being decent ahahaha

[@rianstanford7286]

Annie and Howard taking L’s as usual 😂

[@scottpaprocki2398]

Daniel was definitely ahead of the curve on this one.

[@hansel2001]

You know Annie loses this battle when every female player out there is on Team Negreanu. Annie is as likable as Amy Schumer.

[@seanof30306]

No data to back this up, but I dealt for a living for over 15 years and played with some small success. Based on my experiences, I've come to believe the incidence of narcissism among professional poker players has to be tremendously higher than the population at large, and in my opinion, this feud is a perfect example of two toxic narcissists going at each other and thinking people care. Of the two, I definitely think Annie Duke is much worse. I have real-time experience with her, and in my opinion, she's just as crooked and entitled as Negreanu says she is. Daniel can be extremely hypocritical, though. When Daniel was so openly critical of Howard Lederer after the Full Tilt debacle, I agreed with every word he said, BUT in the months and years after, I noticed Daniel doesn't hold friends to anywhere near the same standard. He often defends them in equally shady circumstances; for example when Eric Lindgren flat-out stole a million bucks from Chris Ferguson. 15+ years later, Lindgren still hasn't paid it back, and Negreanu still insists it's Full Tilt's bookkeeping department's fault. Lindgren knew Ferguson agreed to loan him a million bucks, Full Tilt accidentally wired him the million bucks twice, and he never gave the extra million back. Never paid the other million back, either. During the poker boom I was always amazed that so many people were lining up to blow all these "poker pros", treating them like rockstars when so many of them are crooks, thieves and con artists.

[@LordSStorm]

Well that is what rockstars are.

[@peppergrand1072]

Did full tilt poker pay anyone back? The money that was in accounts when the online site was shut down.

[@vincentsperrazza5926]

​@@peppergrand1072 Pokerstars bought FTP and yes everyone who was in the know and took the steps got their FTP accounts paid back. Many never knew about it though.

[@seanof30306]

@@peppergrand1072 I got back around 10 cents on the dollar, I believe before they folded. After Pokerstars bought them out, I got some more back, but nowhere near all of it. I never kept a lot of money on there. I played on both Full Tilt and Pokerstars, but always Felt Full Tilt was shady. When I'd call customer service at Pokerstars, I felt like I was dealing with professionals. When I called customer service at Full Titl, it was like talking to somebody in a trailer house in Arkansas.

[@resurection96]

hell of a read, thank you for sharing brother😎

[@SerErryk]

There's something about Annie I don't trust. I don't know what it is, but it's always been a gut feeling.

[@valuablesandwich]

Maybe the fact that her maiden name is Lederer

[@Lybrel]

+1 on the relation to Howard Lederer. RIP my Full Tilt balance. Her ghoulish makeup scheme doesn't help either

[@jerrygarcia4390]

She and her brother should be in prison

[@EmperorNerox]

​@@jerrygarcia4390not really , they didn't do anything to warrant that.

[@INYB]

​@@EmperorNeroxThey literally used their poker site as a ponzi scheme. Theirs should be in jail.

[@raymondcaylor6292]

I played with her once at the Bellagio and she didn't act up or act out. She took one bad beat and later drew out on the same guy for all his chips without commentary. I've only played with Daniel once at a WSOP event and he was talkative, friendly and fun from start to finish.

[@3bettor287]

Cool story

[@davesmith5656]

Sounds to me like Daniel's complaints about Annie (I'm halfway through the video) are not about her hair or make-up or tone of voice, they are about her behavior as a professional poker player. I get the feeling she could hang out on yachts or on rafts - away from the table - and it wouldn't make any difference at all to Daniel. She could bluff a blue streak, and he wouldn't complain. I.e. It's not personal, it is professional, like criticizing a cab driver who drives very badly, and not wanting to be on the same road. These guys aren't playing for $5.00 buy-ins with friends, but even then, guys would shun someone who, for example, peered over at their neighbor's hand.

[@hewasagudboy9079]

I took Daniel out in a WCOOP event on a lucky river hit and all he said was "Okayyyy" and left lol

[@Oheeeoh]

Hard to imagine anyone wanting to buy Annie Duke's book.

[@dbcooper206]

it was actually good..wasnt specifically about poker tho

[@dc7468]

Makes for good kindling in a fireplace.

[@dcollier7239]

Not me!

[@K.I.N.G.69]

Whats wrong with people who buy Book? some people just want to get knowledge dude, everybody have experience that worth to learn for, smart people learn from everything and everyone, average people only learn from their own experience, while dumb people already think they are doesn't need to learn anymore.

[@K.I.N.G.69]

I know from your comment you probably doesn't like Annie Duke, but you use Book as a way of showing dislike, is kinda telling everybody that you dislike someone who make progress by reading a Book or aquiring knowledge.

[@Ac0ustics0ul]

Grabbing someone's mucked wholecards?? OH HELL NAH

[@Shipdacheese]

Oh man these sure are some names from the past...Annie Puke and Howard Scamerer.

[@matteframe]

this really should be titled 'Story of all the shitty poker behavior Annie Duke has displayed'...

[@sachsenschlachter6401]

Imagine you have 2 kids: 1 is Howard and 2nd one is Annie. Good God what have I done?

[@overnightdelivery]

All these dramatic stories were perfect to cover up the fact that all these offshore poker websites are complete scams.

[@dbix11]

i got that feeling with Full Tilt poker before they were shut down. I forgot what it was called at the time but i turned 100 dollars into 5000 using their rapid seating game, it was fucking nuts. It took FOREVER to withdrawl my money, they had me go through hoops but i eventually got the check. They wanted me to keep playing and give it all back. I knew id never run that hot again and decided to eject. Long story short, got my money after like a 6 month ID verification process. Full Tilt went belly up less than a year later.

[@royearl1094]

check this out i put 100 in at bodog bovada whatever its called this week .i played that 100 for 4 months on there and the nba finally got me .i played over 100 sit in gos 100 head up matches all for 5.00 . .also i never heard of anyone cashing out on there .hey i lived off suckers playing cards for 45 years so i know when its a cold deck because ive done it myself oops

[@luishenriquez8824]

Thank you! I played something called Global Poker and I was up a few hundred ( I know it’s Not a lot of money) but last one hundred and only put a total of 40$ into it. I was playing small tournaments to pass my time at work as a programmer. One day I tried logging in and it wouldn’t let me! I went to the help section and all I ever got was an email basically telling me that my own account is permanently locked out because I accidentally logged back in on another tab and they said someone hacked it. I told them it was me and I didn’t mean to do that, I know it’s a rookie mistake but they never got back to me. I tried multiple times and now they just get to keep my 100$ bucks and won’t even email back at all about it. Sad to say the least. What a dam scam.

[@dunweyweydum]

Seems monitizied gane play computerized sites are All shady given their algorithms > the future of AI

[@taklfarms2575]

Obviously the kid is MUCH better. It's not even a debate

[@GO-TAXI-NO-UBER]

I worked at the Mirage poker room in 1984 to 1987. I never met Daniel but I did see Annie and Howard and she was not a very nice person at all Howard was decent but didn’t really see much of him but she was not very nice at all. !!

[@BoboMcBooboy]

My favorite thing from this whole thing knowing very little about either of these people going in, is Annie writing an "open letter to Pokerstars" - *"...about treating people with respect, and the use of a word that is abusive and demeaning to ALL WOMEN."* (Basically trying to get him fired/punished because she didn't like that he called her a mean word, and she wanted to distract and deflect away from any other points Dan was making at that moment...) Trying to make sure he's punished for "treating a woman poker player badly" -When he didn't hold back his take, regardless of the fact she's a woman, because that's irrelevant to her character, and the way she acts and behaves... Annie LOVES to talk on behalf.of all women, and utilize being a women whenever its convenient for her... As long as it benefits her in some way. Whenever its convenient for her to mention her gender in order to separate herself from her male competitors, usually as a point of pride... When somebody points out the hypocrisy in Annie declaring herself "the best *female* poker player, when Annie herself wants to try and make the point "men/women only tournaments" really shoudnt exist, because THAT separates by gender, and it should just be "poker" - not *men/women' poker"- gender is irrelevant to poker... Apparently... But then... Why does it matter that Daniel called you a c*nt, and moreso, why would it be any more or less demeaning because youre a "women poker player"? So you can demean him, and she can even call him a c*nt if she wanted with this logic, but if HE says that to HER, according to her, it's essentially the equivalent of the "N" word when used towards any woman... And she's a woman don't forget... All the sudden she gets to MAGICALLY invoke the power of a made up army of "the vast majority" of the 4+/- billion other women in the world, to defend eachothers honour or some shit... "Abusive and demeaning to all women" lmfao... Im pretty sure he was talking DIRECTLY TO YOU, and NOBODY else. Didn't call *any* other woman that word in this case... Once again, when its convenient to bring up her gender to separate herself, and especially as a way to put herself above others, there's NO hesitation or second thoughts... When others treat her like they would any other male competitor (which she claims she wants...) Especially treating her how they do, when she acts the way she does, LORD have mercy! You just did a FEMALE poker player wrong! Even tho its not wrong apparently if its a male...? It's worse? Ok Annie. SO clear to see through the type of person she is, and its exactly who Daniel said she was time after time after time...

[@Way2fast4u82]

Once a c*** always a c***

[@iIliterati]

I met and played with Annie one time when I was a 21, and she was a complete asshole to me and aggressive towards nearly everyone at the table. She genuinely came across as a horrible person to be around. I completely side with Daniel on this one.

[@R4MM57EIN]

Why ppl didnt tell her to stfu & no1 cares the diswashers opinnion or go back to kitchen ?

[@dashx1103]

I met Annie one time in Vegas during a sit-and-go at the Flamingo. She distracted me at the table and then her identical twin grabbed all my chips and ran! I couldn't believe it. That is the last time I ever trusted identical twins.

[@tophercabba]

@@dashx1103 dumb story even if it was true , would be no point in stealing ur chips in a sit in go as they would be tourny chips and have no cash out value lol

[@dashx1103]

@@tophercabba You missed the subtext and premise of the comment. It was a joke.

[@1dash133]

@@dashx1103 Yep. People need an emoji (or two) these days to get the message.

[@brucelee5576]

Anna Duke made most of her poker money from the mid 80s to late 90s , she’s just mad the game has pass her up.

[@HollandOates]

Joan Rivers didn't like Annie. That's enough for me.

[@drakecoleman9364]

5:58 you said Tony revealed his two aces, which changes the entire subject there. Tony did not reveal his hand, he mucked them. Thats why what she did was wrong. You made it seem like she grabbed her own mucked cards. I had to rewind the video a few times to figure out the problem by reading the post and ignoring your talk.

[@nicholi2789]

Yeah i noticed that too. Totally changes the context

[@baseballsux2]

I noticed that as well. You said he “revealed”, but the post said he “said”. Not the same thing at all.

[@bmo14lax]

That's why I paused and actually Read the source. Funny how you have to do that these days

[@johntrucano8186]

"King and Queen of Poker Hall of Shame". Couldn't have said it better. Their careers have been littered with scandal for how long, at least two decades? I used to admire them both as great players, but they just epitomize the seedy side of the poker world.

[@RecoveredRidleyTruther]

Her name is forever tainted with her cheat brother... Negreanu's name is forever a legend and respectful great for the beautiful/terrible game of Poker ❤😂

[@ronb8052]

In my opinion, neither Annie Duke nor her brother Howard Lederer should be allowed to enter any poker room. When you read about Epic Poker and Full Tilt, it's obvious their morals are in the toilet. It's no coincidence they're brother and sister. Negreanu is right.

[@sohsie]

I didn't know Chris Moneymaker was an "old school" player.

[@bmo14lax]

He is definitely an old school player at this point. In 2010 calling him an old school player would not make sense but today yes.

[@odysseusnissan]

Daniel totally won that war and paints a great poker Hall of Shame visual with Howard and Annie.

[@Wutever]

i just think of joan rivers basically calling her hitler on the apprentice lol.

[@MarkThevenot]

Howard outed Annie Duke, then blamed Daniel for making the feud public?

[@breakit46]

That Full Theft logo grinds on Howards soul for infinity.

[@----.__]

For Daniel to dislike someone they've got to be pretty debased. He seems to get along with everyone, and is generally a pretty pleasant person.

[@Shad0wack]

Stop believing everything you watch on TV

[@----.__]

@@Shad0wack Thinking everyone but you believes everything on TV and is an NPC is the most NPC way to think! If Daniel was a trash human it would have surfaced long ago. People talk.

[@naswiipp]

Who would flirt with her? She looks like Grimace from McDonald's

[@moedanglez]

Duke is a perfect example of a big fish in a small pond getting eaten alive by a new wave of young, smart players. Daniel is a perfect example of adapting to a new, tougher game and finding success.

[@No0utlet]

In the third of Daniel's list of examples of Annie's bad behavior (5:41), the narration explains that Tony "revealed his two Aces" and that "Annie grabbed the folded cards, glanced at them". This is not accurate to the text explanation of the story. In the text, the story is that Dan folded, Tony DID NOT show his Aces. He mucked his hole cards while telling Dan that it was Aces. Annie grabbed the mucked winning hole cards (the Aces) and checked whether Tony was telling the truth about it being Aces.

[@jeremykline6687]

Specifically reread this one too as I didn’t understand the initial issue. Looking at muck/ hole cards is UNREAL

[@Funktaro5]

@@jeremykline6687 Yeah, I've played poker for a living for most of my adult life and I've never heard of anyone ever doing that. That's crazy and totally unacceptable.

[@undergreenthunder8037]

Good video I was expecting it to end with her involvement with full tilt though.

[@evelynroadmedia9415]

Annie Duke has a history of being a bully and @sshole, especially towards the recreational and newer players, she has that 'entitled' and 'i am above you' way about her. So I have no problem with Daniel on this situation, I mean it is obvious she hates being put in her place, and this highlights that fact of she thinks she above everyone else.

[@TechnoBeatz]

Very nice content. Wish there were more like this on KZbin.

[@PokerBounty]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@sportspokerguy3506]

Wow a smart woman villainizes an even smarter man, cheats people out of money, and still thinks she’s a victim. Sadly, I’m not surprised. 💁‍♀️☕️

[@maryswann7623]

In 2007, I was having a drink with friends at a bar and watching poker on tv. I had admiration for Annie at that time. A guy sitting by us told a story of a night drinking in Vegas and going home with her. I believed it.

[@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool]

Until I saw this video, I would have said what a lucky guy he was. I had a massive crush on Annie Duke. Not sure why, just something about her did it for me. But now I can't believe that she has been such a POS to others.

[@danstevens6515]

Must have been a lot of drinks

[@damncows]

Duke is Lederer's sister . Not surprisingly she has her own cheating scandal . Also not surprising Daniel bumped shoulders with her.

[@garybyoosey3163]

There is no way I'm letting anyone look at my cards at a poker table for any reason, unless I'm required to do so.

[@slowery43]

and not a sole cares Princess, this isn't all about you... no one cares what you do

[@durrantalan]

I think you meant “soul”… Unless you were deliberately referring to the bottom of a foot.

[@artful1967]

The rivalry between one world class poker play...and her.

[@wdiddy1]

I have always not liked Annie, just her personality and attitude from the little I've seen. This video just shows I was right about her.

[@johnjamesleahy4065]

Waittt number three...she turned over SOMEONE ELSE'S CARDS after the hand was through?! That should totally be some sort of penalty to say the least right??

[@kenadler777]

Glad to see that many here know the truth about Howard and Annie. I don't always agree with Daniel but he's sure right about Annie.

[@Wide2point1x3bets]

Having an online feud is sociopathic behavior. It doesn’t matter if you’re wrong or right but going out of your way to make sure everyone knows is actually crazy

[@hurleycapetown8420]

Scary that nearly 20 years ago i got extremely drunk with Jesus and Howard in London,i was on my way to Vegas to play poker and ran into them at a Casino in London and it was like the highlight of my life at that point(they were poker royalty at that point especially Ferguson),i still have the photos on Facebook,scary how time flies and also how little you know about people.

[@Super_Flea]

I love how in the early 2000’s all these filthy thieves were portrayed as all knowing poker superheroes when in fact they’re frauds .

[@ssgsorrels]

The fact that most people only know who Dnegs is should tell you who won this "rivalry"

[@aix23723]

You're just not into poker enough if you don't know Annie

[@suhailal-tashi9740]

he said "most"@@aix23723

[@ssgsorrels]

@@aix23723 I said most people. Not me.

[@itskmillz]

@@aix23723 I've been playing poker for 19 years and I've "heard of her" but I knew basically nothing other than her name and face and that she is an old school pro. I couldn't tell you a single hand memorable hand with her.

[@OldManBadly]

The Lederer "poker family" have proven to be bungholes up and down the list. Anyone from the era will never forget the black friday scandal, and finding out that they had their fingers in cash drawer, taking from the players. Howard, Annie, and others including Chris Ferguson had their careers destroyed by their own bad acts. I am with Daniel on this one. Both Howard and Annie are pieces of work, the poker world is much better off without both of them. Too bad so many people had to lose money with them.

[@Ehm593]

Howard Lederer is Annie Duke’s brother, so I guess he would be attacking anything Negraneu said about women if he thought it was aimed at his sister.

[@janeburns7673]

I normally start with a top water bait or spinner. If the fish are not active I work the deep weed edge with a wacky worm.

[@Logic-101]

Asking a lederer about fair play and proper business activities is hilarious.

[@montanaricky9558]

I worked the 2006 WSOP, and I just got done dealing a event I went in the back hallway to goto lunch and In a random corner in the dark I saw Shannon Elizabeth’s husband making out with Anne. As I walked by they continued with their high school make out session and all I could think was “how you gonna do that to the American Pie girl. There needs to be more interviews with poker dealers on the how poker pros really are. That’s a video.

[@montanaricky9558]

@dougbarker2227 well she didn’t that’s my point

[@glendaleon739]

The stories I have dealing to the pros. I always wondered why I couldn't stand Annie on site. She really is hard to like

[@danstevens6515]

Her husband must have been blind and deaf

[@sommguy1792]

So let me get this straight. Daniel makes comments about an unknown player. Then Howard comes out and says that's my sister. And then bashes Daniel for calling her out when he in fact, is the one that did it.

[@JOJOMO443]

You didn't even touch on the Full Tilt scandal that Howard was involved in.

[@OneOut1]

I remember Dsniel complaining about he putting he bare feet upon the cloth chairs because they were stinky sweaty feet on the chairs. I feel for him.

[@mcdamion]

Daniel dripping that “Bi**h Please” line…💀 4:34

[@ZeeZeeFaa]

Great video my man

[@PokerBounty]

Appreciate it

[@donmasacre4919]

The interesting thing about those guys like Annie Duke and Lederer is that they used to be considered great when in reality they used to be nits, pure nits.

[@88mphDrBrown]

The game was a lot more nitty in general.

[@johntrucano8186]

Just like Daniel said about replacing the F with SH, you can do the same with nits if you can replace the N with SH as it certainly applies to them.

[@lucianlandry8332]

Well after watching that, I'm beginning to think these people might not like each other.

[@user-wi4rk1ov9d]

I GET MORE EXITED OF POKER BOUNTYS NEW EPISODES THEN ANY SHOW ON NETFLIX!!

[@PokerBounty]

Thank you for the kind words

[@iamamish]

5:50 - he didn't 'reveal' his cards, he said what they were. If he had revealed them, there would have been no point in retrieving them from the muck.

[@itskmillz]

Lol wow he botched that part of the story, glad I paused and read every transcript instead of relying on the poorly done summary.

[@chessbrilliance8783]

Everybody hated Anny Duke in fact.

[@jeff-hh9mc]

“Cup boy.” Never heard that one before.

[@arcticredpanda4598]

Howard Lederer, the Full Tilt mastermind, is turning out to be a real character isn't he.

[@justsomeguy6474]

I had no idea they had beef!

[@zathras11b53]

At the very end of the video you mentioned Daniel's comment about Annie and Howard and shame, but failed to mention why Howard was included for that. He was involved in the Full Tilt Poker scandal. See, that was easy to explain.

[@StaceNyourFace]

Lederer and Duke fell off the poker map around 2011-2012, thankfully. 👍

[@davidhill2020]

I'm pretty sure Annie's post, that she put on her own blog, wasn't blocked.

[@PackyDaggers]

"Renowned members like Chris Ferguson and Howard Lederer". What is this, 2009?

[@JG-re2bb]

For a writer, Annie seems to struggle with the English language in the excerpts here - "curoius", "curently" "both sides expressing there (sic) opinions" etc

[@EGarrett01]

8:37 "I have few secrets if anyway... I been broke. Blew some... (line ends)"

[@timbeatty8411]

Funny all these years later we kind of know now

[@MrRidingman]

Can't say I like either one of them, all of them are full of inflated egos except Doyle Brunson and Eli Elezra. Both gave and commanded respect.

[@BalotelliFan713]

Might be relevant to state at the beginning that Howard is Annie's brother

[@bsmartr806]

If Daniel doesn't like you, then you are definitely hiding skeletons in your closet. I just didn't know Annie had that many.

[@Markcigar1]

Don’t like either one of them🙂

[@rozell2820]

I find funny how you paint Daniel as the bad guy, even though Annie is the one doing all the shady actions. Nice work Simp

[@douglaswhite2873]

Where are they now?

[@stevezagieboylo9172]

It seems a glaring oversight that you never mentioned that Annie Duke and Howard Lederer are sister and brother.

[@user-nh1ou6se2g]

..it was odd.. I kept thinking I must have missed it somewhere

[@GenXstacker]

That's obvious from the context of the first letter.

[@kratoscallofduty]

He did at the very end.

[@1dash133]

Check out the screenshots from the 2:30 time mark to the 2:44 time mark, showing Howard referring to Annie as his sister.

[@dcollier7239]

I'll never look at Puke the same way nasty nasty! We love you Daniel!!!🍁

[@lokevoice]

I agree with Annie on the girls only poker situation (there’s no advantage men have over women in intelligence, there doesn’t need to be a separate event) but side with Daniel on everything else because she does seem insufferable

[@JoseRamirez-dv5uo]

ehhh... ther is a massive iq difference, IQ tests prove it, and how many main events have females won? bracelets and all? name a female albert einstein.... tesla.... newton... elon musk? anything? no, u can't, lol... the only iq tests u can point to where males and females r close, is when 10 to 14 years old, when women go thru puberty earlier which gives them an edge, mentally, and physically... remember mone davis? where is she now? o wait, the boys had their growth spurt and she disappeared.

[@FHRiley-yk9by]

Men do have an advantage in intelligence, specifically when it comes to high thought decision making activities like chess, poker, baccarat, puzzling, trading card games, etc

[@FHRiley-yk9by]

The results of high level events in all of these activities prove this. That isn't to say there aren't women doing these things at a high level. Maria Ho, Judit Polgar, etc

[@lokevoice]

@@FHRiley-yk9by Found the incel

[@FHRiley-yk9by]

@@lokevoice you're right. women are just placing worse than men in every conceivable metric in coed activity by choice.

[@bb-gc2tx]

annie is delusional i think she actually thinks shes hot 🤣

[@111076tom]

Who knew Daniel would be such a lion in a catfight...

[@MartinGreen932]

Sociopath meets narcissist - unlikely to go well.

[@davidchodds]

You forgot to mention the important fact that Howard Lederer is Annie Duke's brother.

[@Joel_Powell]

I don't need someone to tell me a story.

[@alanball5750]

There are dozens of toxic relationships on the circuit.When you are dealing with cash and livelyhoods , it happens. Bad as this relationship seems, it is by far, not the worst. I like them both.

[@FallenMonk55]

Annie peeking at her neighbours' whole cards proves she just wants to learn how her opponents play. Definitely cheating in my books, and bad etiquette