STOWAWAY 5.7 - THE SURVIVAL BUDGET GUN

[@WayStedYou]

We returned all the way back to the .22 hornet survival rifle from 100 years ago

[@1diggers1]

That's a cool cartridge, and way hotter than 5.7.

[@petercampbell3579]

If it’s not broke…..don’t fix it

[@LoneStar1955]

Loved my 22 hornet. Wished I had never sold it.😢

[@TheB3e3]

The ease of conversion is neat. I might pick one up once they start doing bigger centerfire cartridges-- this setup would be awesome for subsonic stuff like .45acp, .44spl, or .45Colt

[@AB1138-]

​@TheB3e3 it'll be a fun tool to reload on. I'd love a 300blk model.

[@tacocat6035]

Bolt action is the only speed I can afford to shoot 5.7

[@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkh]

Its about twice the cost of current 22 mag prices. Average of $35 or so per 50 rds. Not great but certainly not awful.

[@koga924]

It's not that much these days. Where I live 9mm is 20c, 22wmr is 24c, 5.56 is 50c, and 5.7 is 55c.

[@jaceandjace1171]

Much cheaper than a. Few years ago, I was getting them around $55-60 per box

[@CobraDBlade]

I feel like if they had made this so that it would work with PSA Rock or Ruger 5.7 mags it would be so much better. Single loading is no doubt easier to manufacture but if I was using it as an actual survival rifle I would want something that has a good amount of ammo stored inside it since you can't always grab a fistful of ammo.

[@laurenbish3116]

Just put some kind of ammo storage on the brace or stock.

[@ecobasetech4558]

I think that's why bandoliers exist?

[@mechag9488]

Agreed. If it were actually smaller, it would make more sense, but it is just a regular pistol with a brace and single shot. Makes more sense to put a brace on a known pistol. Make an alternate frame with a mount on the back.

[@farklestaxbaum4945]

I really like this concept, and its good to see it retailing around $300. But they are gonna have to make a magazine fed version if they wanna go anywhere

[@maskedrebel9670]

Definitely, any survival rifle should be more than single-shot.

[@NINacide]

it's like illegally putting a stock on a 5.7 pistol

[@shane99ca]

@@NINacide Maybe illegal in California. They've been putting stocks on pistols for 150 years at the least an probably longer.

[@anti8.6]

Makes sense for a survival rifle to be single shot, conserving ammo would be very important. Mag fed guns are for offensive and defensive use.

[@shane99ca]

@@anti8.6 Makes even more sense for a survival rifle to be able to use commonly available ammo-which the 5.7x28 is NOT.

[@philschaefer4651]

Interesting concept, definitely the most compact survival rifle I've seen to date. I'd love to see someone chamber a varmint rifle in 5.7x28, because I think the cartridge has a lot of accuracy potential and bridges the gap between .22 magnum and traditional varmint cartridges like the .223 Rem.

[@p99guy]

@@philschaefer4651 9 hole reviews just did a test of 5.7 out of a SBR PS90 to 500 meters (10.5” barrel) And they were supprized! In a good way, how well it did

[@philschaefer4651]

@@p99guy Thanks, I'll check that out.

[@jic1]

Rock Island Armory makes a bolt-action in their .22 TCM pistol cartridge which would seem like exactly what you're looking for, the only problem is it's a proprietary cartridge.

[@mikemorgan4774]

Oh the nostalgia! That rifle version with silencer and scope looks just like Napoleon Solos' Man from U.N.C.L.E sniper setup.

[@cbroz7492]

....you show your age with that reference...I loved that show also...

[@TheJHMAN1]

Wow what memories that brings back, I had that toy back in the 60s.

[@mikemorgan4774]

@@TheJHMAN1 me too bro!

[@leslieshepperd9850]

For those who knew him, the great Paul Harrell has passed away. Fly high, Paul. You will be missed.

[@pickmeaname]

😢🎉

[@dezrtrat702]

That sucks

[@BamBlamboTv]

Rip paul

[@Z7d3nR4]

😢

[@bk7278]

😢

[@dougbond6007]

All the technology and still comes back to a 22 hornet just a little fancy

[@k-tow]

That pistol in .300blk would be awesome

[@mpeugeot]

and would make much more sense than 5.7!

[@brandonschilling9020]

Nahhhh. .22 k hornet

[@e.torch.8102]

Yep, .300 subsonic with a decent can would probably be whisper quiet.

[@Calqid]

Yeah, k hornet is cool.

[@waltershoults8803]

BINGO 💥👍😎

[@AllAboutSurvival]

The 5.7x28mm round is known for its impressive velocity and low recoil, which could make this a handy choice in a survival scenario. I'm curious to see how it holds up over time, especially in rugged conditions.

[@unitedstatesirie7431]

you are wrong. The .22 Hornet centerfire caliber is a higher velocity round than the goofy 5.7 caliber !

[@Hornet135]

@@unitedstatesirie7431 the only thing goofy is your non sequitur comment.

[@cplinstructor]

@@Hornet135 How is that non sequitur? Non sequitur means “does not follow,” which means a comment that does not logically follow the last. His comment does logically follow, yours does not, therefore it is you who made a non sequitur comment. Or more appropriately just an ignorant one. 5.7 sucks ballistically, it’s basically just a rimless .22 Magnum with most loadings, except much more expensive. Yes, there are some decent loadings available but they are $3+ per round, and while decent you could certainly do better for cheaper, like the .22 hornet as was mentioned. Since it is a single shot .300 Blackout would also be a good choice, as would .357 Magnum as other comments are suggesting.

[@Hornet135]

@@cplinstructor his comment doesn’t follow because he said “You are wrong. The .22 hornet has higher velocity…” He’s arguing against something that was never contended by the OP, and nothing the original post said was wrong. 5.7 is known for its high velocity and low recoil. He never said it has the highest velocity of any round known to mankind, so it is just weird to follow with something about .22 Hornet when that’s a light varmint rifle cartridge. 5.7 in a pistol is roughly the same performance as .22 WMR from a rifle. It has its niche, but it’s expensive for what it is.

[@cplinstructor]

@@Hornet135 I believe what he was implying was that if velocity is your measure of performance (and that is really 5.7s “thing” then you could do better. I would wager that .22 hornet is probably a better performer too.

[@finaloption...]

If you're gonna take that bear hunting, you better save that one round for yourself.

[@Xtorin_Housecat_Ohern]

i feel like there's room for an itty bitty little 2 or 3 round internal mag on this thing.... imagine this thing in .300 blackout with a little internal magazine and a cock on close bolt... i'd definitly be willing to pay a little more for those features in this format.

[@coljones98]

CZ trail rifle is basically that

[@sakamoto2467]

That would raise complexity and cost. The price these are going for they're barely worth the purchase at all and only for people willing to buy into the single shot survival gun fantasy.

[@cplinstructor]

Cool concept, sucky caliber. 5.7 Is very hyped but unless you want to buy super premium ammunition for around $3 a round it pretty much sucks ballistically. .22 Magnum can do everything it can do but cheaper. Make this in .22 Magnum and I might want one, or hell since it’s a single shot, why not .300 Blackout? Now THAT would be cool, especially suppressed. Be a lot more useful for survival too I’d think, because now you’d have enough punch to reliably take down a deer, or even a hostile human if you had to. Do yeah, .22 Magnum or .300 Blackout and you have a winner. 5.7 it’s just a toy.

[@infantry1560]

only problem is .22 mag isn't center fire like a 5.7

[@cplinstructor]

@@infantry1560 I never said that .22 Magnum was good, just that ballistically 5.7 is basically the same, I.E. not very good and for the cost it makes more sense to buy .22 Magnum. Also remember that this is a SINGLE SHOT WEAPON so it being a rimmed cartridge is completely irrelevant as there can be no feeding issues. Fun history for you: .25 ACP was originally made as a target round, specifically to be a centerfire alternative to .22 LR for better function in semi automatics. However, while both calibers are terrible for self defense .22 LR is both more affordable and more effective than .25 ACP. I could draw the same comparison between 5.7 and .22 Magnum with .22 Magnum being the better choice. (Yes I am aware that 5.7 was designed to replace 9mm, not .22 Magnum, but it failed miserably at that)

[@infantry1560]

@cplinstructor can't go wrong with the .22 mag, I bought the only 30rd pistol from Kel tec and sold it right away after. Gun was too poorly built but if it wasn't it would of been an ok self defence pistol.

[@gregzeigler3850]

Think I'll stick with my single shot .410 as a survival weapon. Youth model Rossi, 22" barrel. 000 Buck will penetrate 18" in gelatin...

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

@@cplinstructor I'm sorry, but 22 mag doesn't even come close to 5.7. 5.7 has 1.7x the energy or more.

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

Really nice to see a new offering in survival pistol/ rifle. I haven't seen much new in quite some time. I don't believe there are many offerings in a 5.7 bolt gun either. This would be great for reloaders too.

[@melissasmess2773]

Low weight and size is very attractive for hiking, bolt action great for suppression antics, limited usefulness with single shot but very interesting offering, thanks!

[@douglasmcneil8413]

That design would work well with the 357 also.

[@honorb4glory606]

Tiny survival rifles are becoming very popular. I don't know if that's good or bad, because similar firearms were made during the depression. I got the Rossi .45/.410 Tuffy survival rifle, because it's chambered in my favorite handgun cartridge, AND my favorite shotgun cartridge. I swore I would never buy another Rossi, but it's well made. Fully loaded, with a sling, it weighs just a bit over 4 pounds. Having the ability to fire birdshot, buckshot, and 300 grain .45 Colt loads, means you can hunt literally any bird or mammal in North America. And if ammunition becomes scarce, you can easily handload your own, and even use black powder, if that's all you have. You can even make your own black powder if you need to.

[@Naylgunn]

Can we get a review on the new sub2000 in 5.7?

[@robinshull6510]

Pretty cool. Wish that it a magazine, either internal or detachable. Maybe like the Welrod of WW2 fame. Also should be able to change from right to left. For those of us who are south paws.

[@randy-x9f]

I have a Diamondback DBX and a Panther Arms AR15 upper both in 5.7 and they are impressive.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Can't wait for the 10mm version!

[@davidh2687]

now that would be cool! Is there an article saying theyre doing this or a date of release?

[@p99guy]

@@AlaskanBallistics .357 mag would be another good spare barrel in the kit for the larger version, for suppressing with .38 special

[@jimmyhaley727]

NO,, 50MM

[@tonysmith5465]

Very very outstanding video. Great job. Thanks a lot friend. Keep up the good work. SC Navy vet. 1965. 🇺🇸😊

[@TheCrystalJules]

TBH I want one, but in 22 TCM and make it feed from 1911 mags instead of single-shot. Either cartridge though makes for a nice modern version of a 22 Hornet survival rifle.

[@DanTheWolfman]

Paul Harrell RIP. Tribute Honoring vid maybe we can all do. I filmed this Stowaway, and await the 9mm to review. Needs somewhere to hold like 5 to 6 rounds though on it.

[@FiveStringCommando]

I would like to see the AR7 in 5.7, this gun in semi-automatic using the same style as an AR7

[@GunsBlazingRanch]

Awesome video 👏

[@mcdoctorglock]

Market it with the idea of easy, quick change barrels and caliber swaps and you have a modern TC Encore, but lighter. I would rather shoot more .22 TCM than 5.7, and would have a slightly better velocity. Reloaders can process old 5.56 brass to make .22 TCM and use cheap and ubiquitous 55gr projectiles.

[@TNRonin]

That BBL looks like a AR-15 profile 🤔. I'd want to add 3" to get warranty coverage with my phantom 22. Order one this morning but it didn't show the 1913. I guess if I didn't it I can add.

[@danm7876]

HEY STOWAWAY!!! it would be nice to have multiple barrel lengths so i could get a little more velocity in the pistol. 6 8 10 inch options maybe? what would be the point of diminishing returns for barrel length? love to see a video of you cutting a barrel down

[@mpsoldierblood]

I've been looking at these for a while now just would prefer in something like 357 would make more sense to me...

[@Bob-lq9ys]

Cool rigs, I looked on their site and didn't see them list the change out supplies. I may have to check into them closer

[@Conan361]

Been wanting a 5.7 bolt action forever. Modern enough version of 22 hornet (yes ik the 5.7 is weaker) but with longer lasting brass. (Rip 22 hornet brass - case head separations)

[@ronjones1414]

Single action 22 rifles were my favorite growing up. Allo lasts much longer. Please put the bolt handle on the other side and make it a deer catcher (44 mag would be great. )

[@johnss11n]

Man. Hard to justify this when keltec just dropped the new 5.7 sub2000

[@lucasblanchard47]

They WHAT?!

[@johnss11n]

@@lucasblanchard47 yep. News dropped yesterday. MSRP is $511

[@melissasmess2773]

@@lucasblanchard47yup, in black only.

[@AhHereWeGo]

@@lucasblanchard47 Also the $200 chiappa little badger exists in .17hmr/.22mag/22LR

[@kirkchartier7141]

**yeah and maybe in a couple years you can actually get one of the Kel-Tec's without paying scalpers prices. **I love Kel-Tec but they're supply is not as great as the demand. **And occasionally they do bring out a loser. **I still want to see them bring out a new PMR-30 but use the design of the CP33 but with a 10-inch barrel. **That would be a design that you can put a stock on it and SBR it, and it would still probably be lighter than the CMR 30 with a short barrel.

[@MJA5]

hope they are cranking them out, I feel like they should sell pretty well.

[@billsummy2412]

I just wish it had iron back up sights ...

[@orca1361]

Looks like the day of the jackal rifle

[@unixpro2]

It looks fragile, but i think it is a cool idea for a truck gun/survival gun

[@ejharbet6390]

9mm(soon) and 22lr(idkw) if I was going to add anything else itd be a 18inch .410 3inch barrel. that said the 9mm will keep me happy for awhile👍

[@brazzy1467]

Next month I'm ordering one for my birthday. Can't wait to get it.

[@Tyler-fp1ix]

Wonder if you could cut the barrel in half and use like 1/2x28 threads to join them back together if that would be safe and reliable the 16 inch barrel could be half that and you add your extension to be legal

[@StephenBranscom-w5g]

love your stuff. Good to see you back

[@bloodlove93]

interesting but tbh,i really wish it was like the, whayit called,ar7? the little 22 put together survival gun that stored in the stock with a several round mag.

[@erroneous6947]

Ar7. I think that’s what you’re talking about.

[@IIIDasBrotIII]

cool gun! An option for a 5-10 shot side magazin would be nice

[@dasfreakster]

I wonder if the rifle stock can be removed and the pistol barrel installed. Be cool to be able to switch back and forth. :)

[@p99guy]

@@dasfreakster form 1 SBR it…

[@mtnbound2764]

really cool! cant wait to see them make additional barrels and bolts in various calibers.

[@IntenseSpirit]

Keltec just announced a 5.7 Sub2000

[@DTFTACTICAL]

Rather have this in .22 wmg since ammo is more compact and has similar balistics

[@thomasflickinger1949]

Is the 5.7 casing reloadable?

[@larrywaller6729]

You mentioned other calibers in the future. 357 and 44 magnum would be nice since you could fire 38 and 44 special in those.

[@tacticalteamkilling6539]

Very cool, about time the designer made something worth buying! Why is it left handed though?

[@22plinkster]

That way, you never need to take your strong hand off the grip. It makes for a faster reload if you're right-handed.

[@UserName-ln5ol]

why would you not put a 5rd magazine in it and make it a repeater??

[@chrissewell1608]

I'd like it in .300 Blackout!

[@PracticalPrepperCanada]

$400 USD isn’t cheap with so many other options around now.

[@mikeofmanymikes2630]

exactly, and to be a single shot tactical rifle? What a joke.

[@wadewilson524]

Thank heavens we have Big Brother KZbin protecting us from you showing us how to take down a pistol. Big Brother is watching. Always.

[@DoctorMeatDoesHousecalls]

but can put it back together. LOL

[@PalKrammer]

Elegant in its simplicity.

[@UT-CLANS]

No mention of the cost for the suppressor. Convenient.

[@juanthelawnmowerthief1641]

300 blk with a 1:5 twist 7.5 inch for hunting with subs.

[@KarasCyborg]

I think this is a Survival Rifle in the sense that a parent would give a rifle like this to his kid as a single shot trainer to prevent accidental discharge. I don't think I would call it End of Days Survival Rifle first being chambered in 5.7 which is going to be very hard to find, but also being non-repeating.

[@cynthiakoehne7004]

Hell make one in 9x39 and there you go!

[@bobborlog1677]

Yes yes yes I've actually talked to them about 9x39 they said they're planning on pistol cartridges next so who knows maybe one day

[@BUZZKILLJRJR]

What a cool little gun i love it.

[@ricjona1069]

The pistol or SBR would be nice for varmint hunting. Light, portable, foldable.

[@westpearson6759]

Yeah, I think I would have to look at this as a pistol/300 blk suppressed, using sub-sonics.

[@PalKrammer]

I don't understand: KZbin won't allow you to show disassembly, but will allow you to show assembly?

[@chill7851]

I red dot oll run out of battery before I load a full box of ammo

[@sinclairpages]

With a higher end suppressor, I can see this as a portable close range sniper gun.

[@thehomelessgunshelter7476]

i hope the pistol brace adapter will fit the non braced model

[@jdfriar]

i wish they would sell some hotter 5.7. that velocity is weak.

[@TheCrystalJules]

Yeah honestly I was waiting to hear he was shooting 55gr or something, isn't 5.7 supposed to hit 2000 fps out of a pistol with regular weight ammo like in the ~35 grain range?

[@jdfriar]

@@TheCrystalJules yes, it is my friend. i have reloaded it up to 2200 with no problems or signs of overpressure

[@shiro4296]

They should put a magazine on the side like a sten so you dont have to have it single shot and it could still be a bolt gun or you could make a semi auto version

[@kennyisbell8210]

Just get the cmr30 by keltec its light compact and has a 30 round flush mag

[@charlesgrubbs8094]

I would love to get one but not allot cheaper than one of the 5.7x28 carbines though

[@Robbie64]

Pretty decent for a trap line

[@bradleyhicks4539]

Thanks for sharing. Their website only mentions easy caliber changes by swapping barrel and bolt face. Any word on what calibers will be available?

[@hakansoderholm6514]

Last rounds was on the edge 7 o clock. Still a Good group! 🙂

[@johnprestonii871]

What’s the weight of the pistol with that brace? I’m looking for a small game backpacking gun to take on a 10 day hike/camp

[@flugel6856]

I'd be interested if it fed from a magazine and you didn't have to manually cock it after you rack the bolt.

[@laurenbish3116]

Weight, complexity, cost would all go up. I am fine with manual reloading of the gun. If I need to shoot fast I would use either my PS90 or my Five Seven. I have wanted a light compact takedown pistol/rifle that would accurately/easily handle 5.7x28 reloads and factory ammo. I have thousands of once fired 5.7 brass.

[@mrsmith8436]

Good thing they are expanding the caliber options because 5.7 is NOT a good choice over others simply due to cost and avalibility

[@crzycracka69]

5.7 is a great versatile round and has become more available

[@Liberty_Crux]

It should become more available due to it being adopted by NATO.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Its a survival rifle, you're gonna shoot a box and then keep a box unfired for 10 years. Stop acting like you cant find 5.7 or that's its any more expensive than other calibers. Last time I bought 5.7 is was $.60 a round, thats cheaper than the magnums and half the cost of good shotgun rounds.

[@alexanderstordeur9434]

@@mrsmith8436 5.7 has gone down in Price. To where it can be shot as cheap as 50 cents around. Although granted, this is talking about FMJ practice rounds. So still more expensive than 22 magnum hunting ammo you could buy for 25 to 30 cents a round. But a 40gr 5.7 out of a 5in pistol is going to have Similar ballistics to a 40gr .22 mag out of the 16in rifle. But 5.7 out of 16 is going to be more than 100FPS faster than a .22mag. Not to mention 57 has the benefits of being a centrifier. So the trade-off is going to be cost or Velocity and reloadability. Do you want a $200 Single shot 22 magnum rifle with a 16 inch barrel, or Have the same Ballistic performance in Something more compact and will not take up a lot of space in your truck bag or Survival kit? There's a trade-off to everything and everyone Has different needs/ Desires.

[@p99guy]

@@mrsmith8436 5.7 is a rather good choice for an ultralite single shot survival gun. Based on previous calibers used in aircraft bailout kits .22 Hornet, .22LR, .410 shotgun 1. Its a NATO standard now, and will be in NATO air forces supply chain. There is about 15 different military loads for 5.7 2. Extremely lightweight, waterproof, compact round of ammunition that you can carry alot of in limited spaces. 50 for the space and weight of 20 5.56. 3. Subsonic loads specifically for suppressed use 62gr, important as a downed airman behind enemy lines. 4. 9 hole reviews recently tested a 10.5 “ barreled PS90 out to 500 meters, you should watch the KZbin video… even they were surprised . This is a good thing in a 4 pound mini carbine.

[@wadewilson524]

I have no need for one and, dammit, I want one! Thanks Plinkster…

[@philschaefer4651]

Of course one problem I see with this as a compact take down gun, is that even taken down, the pistol is barely smaller, and considerably fheavier than a Ruger 5.7. The rifle at least is much lighter, shorter and less expensive than the Ruger LC in 5.7. Though I'd prefer a right hand bolt on the rifle version. The left hand bolt does make sense on the pistol, especially if used without a brace.

[@BamBlamboTv]

It's considerably more accurate than a semi automatic however though

[@minuteofcan]

Its an interesting setup as a suppressed pistol.

[@alternate3307]

Would be pretty cool for 300 blackout.

[@zactanner5187]

Dude this idea is sweet hope they actually make the other cakibers a thing

[@markupton1417]

Pairs perfectly with the life card...

[@davidslaser]

Can you get the barrels separate. So you can put the rifle on the pistol and vice versa

[@radeksparowski7174]

it needs a magazine, and pricewise vs performance a 22 wmr would be a better pick but nice try

[@nightfury6836]

This thing is SICK!!!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

This makes a lot of sense since rimfire cartridges often have bad primers.

[@Andrew_Erickson]

Fuddlore.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

22 magnum with centrefire reliability.

[@lucasvaughn629]

​@Andrew_Erickson I wish it was. Last box of 22 browning ammo I got had so many dead rounds. Tried in 2 diffrent pistols could not get ignition.

[@fredeschen3783]

@@Andrew_Ericksoni guess you don’t shoot much 22 LR.

[@CrotalusKid]

Lmao. No

[@karlriley1314]

Hope they come out with a 17 WSM. I think I would buy that one.

[@markhosbrough9180]

Love the video Would you recommend buying this rifle as I am torn between buying it or buy the ar7 or get an mp5

[@martyn6792]

5.7 is an interesting cartridge

[@titanwolf1]

You said small Bear I would if it had additional mag fed type just one might be not enough

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

This is an interesting little gun, but personally I would want it in a less expensive and more potent cartridge.

[@elipski3464]

...Hopefully this ends up being offered in 22lr and 22wmr. My choice would be a 22lr pistol wearing a folding brace and a suppressor. Cheap to feed, and mouse fart quiet and packable. My idea of the perfect woods blaster. In 5.7, no thanks...

[@texasrex2222]

This definitely isn't for me, but still seems really neat! Is it safe to have a round chambered decocked?

[@12clr12]

If this comes out in 357 mag or 44 mag I will have one for sure!

[@ljosephdumas3113]

I want .22 Hornet! 😂

[@THESLlCK]

the great destabilizer

[@danperry3116]

Budget gun expensive ammo. If you can find it. I'll stick with .22 thank you.

[@elky5987]

I see others are saying this but I'll repeat it. This would be perfect if it was chambered in 300blk.

[@mikeh.753]

Would it have been asking to much for a 5-10 round detachable box magazine???

[@Texasmade4444444444]

5.56 hits harder and cheaper 🤣

[@orangejuiceboi4755]

5.56 ballistics are also dogshit out of a 7” barrel so….

[@yupyup4209]

And obliterate any small game

[@Hornet135]

@@orangejuiceboi4755 Still more than 5.7, so is 5.7 rabbit droppings?

[@Thisshitcrazybruh]

@@orangejuiceboi4755Use a 300 blk then. This gun makes absolutely no sense. There’s zero advantage to carrying this over something like an Sig Rattler.

[@BamBlamboTv]

​@@orangejuiceboi4755 idk 55-77 grain slug at 2300-2400fps is pretty good id say.