Straight from the Pit | Doug Wilson

In this episode of Blog & Mablog, Pastor Doug Wilson discusses how intersectionality draws the line in the wrong place.
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"Misplacing the antithesis wants the foundational division to be separate races, or classes, or sexes, or tribes, or political factions,
With “the wicked” being the other group, and the righteous being your own.
Red-pilled guys in red hats can play this game also, and many do."
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[@thanevakarian9762]

All i know is as a White Christian Man, me and my family loved ones and people in general are under attack from every angle. Even if I didn’t want to take pride in my heritage and people, I have no choice but to take my own side. We’re defined by our enemies.

[@ds29912]

Fear not, but take heart my brother. For we are NOT defined by our enemies but solely but our lord Jesus Christ. These woke degenerate sinners, who themselves need the outpouring of Grace, can only destroy our bodies. And the Father has given us his word that he will not destroy our bodies and souls in hell.

[@biggtell3922]

@@ds29912 so you'll choose not to defend fellow believers being attacked for their race?

[@ds29912]

@@biggtell3922 who cares if they are? That's just a new twist on the old enmity. Preach the word. Give them a real reason to hate you.

[@biggtell3922]

@@ds29912 I don't see the FBI arresting Christians for kneeling in a park, but start talking about being Pro-White and watch them really roll into action.

[@ds29912]

@@biggtell3922 never play another mans game. Why are you playing by their rules? Don't answer a man according to his folly. When you defend against "racism" you miss the better answer. Answer these fools according to their folly. Point out their sin, make know to them their peril and show them the only real hope any of us has.

[@theauthor8901]

Thank you, Pastor Wilson, for this very biblical approach to wisdom. God bless you, brother!

[@CornerTalker]

Someone complained to Tolkien about the clarity of good and evil in his novel making conflict overly simplistic, and he replied "The real conflict is not between the good and the evil; the real conflict is between the good and the good."

[@thearmedhistorian1507]

Thank you Doug Wilson....I've been following you for quite some time and really appreciate all your work. You have helped me to think and grow in ways I hadn't before....But I wanted to let you know that your "Puppy farts" today earned your first giggle (attentions) from my 7 year old and 8 year old....apparently they do listen to what I'm listening to. Such a responsibility it is to raise two little humans to honor and obey God....(I also follow and appreciate your two daughters as fellow mothers)

[@TomBombadil89]

2:19 shots fired at James White

[@jacobstewart7915]

Lol I had the same thought.

[@darrensmall4313]

Great message. Thank you for your time in putting it together.

[@dws2313]

Prompted by some who criticized Doug's line, "I have more in common with a Nigerian woman who loves Christ ..." I have watched/listened to this and other videos, again. I am amazed by the wisdom and good advice given to us by Doug. I appreciate these talks even more. And, no, I find no fault with them.

[@kvelez]

2:46 Amen. 6:24 Amen. 10:52 Amen. 12:23 Liked this phrase.

[@rmlrobl]

As a white, hetero, Scot... .

[@AntiochConvert]

... you're awesome.

[@rmlrobl]

@@AntiochConvert God is awesome... But thank you.

[@AntiochConvert]

@@rmlrobl Always.

[@Yesica1993]

Thank you for this. I'm watching my church go wokier and wokier. It's like watching a crash in slow motion and I don't know what to do to stop it.

[@DMWayne-ke7fl]

For one, calling it out as anti-White bigotry and encouraging a healthy Christian sense of self among White Christians.

[@johnslagboom1836]

Wisely spoken and yet as a Man, by the Created Order of that Maleness. There comes a time to fight for what is right. Yet, let that time be governed by a Higher Call of my Faith and not my own slighted Pride!

[@jimhughes1070]

Indeed my brother

[@becca.carroll]

Okay.. this was sooo helpful U Doug. Being discipled through big eva I realized I viewed the world like everyone has a circle and my job was to understand how God fit into my circle.... But REALITY is we are all inside God's circle. All things apart from submission to all of what Christ represents is groping around in the dark in a world made by God.... Now I have so many questions 😂

[@becca.carroll]

Okay first question... "Puppy farts"? 🤭

[@paulshepersky2980]

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have [c]refused him. For[d] the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.” 1 Samuel 6:7

[@lovefrombooks7]

I am delighting in the fact that he used the word "chthonic". I have only ever run across that word when translating Greek, and it's such a good word.

[@joshhoodrat451]

Thanatopsis

[@chrisp9500]

I liked totali-tolerance.

[@jimhughes1070]

Dang it I knew he used the word in there somewhere I didn't catch... even after a repeat... I knew I should have stopped...(I'm so goofy I didn't realize you can read it while he was saying it)...(old people 🤣)

[@chrisp9500]

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God.

[@philipmurray9796]

I love it when Doug says "Commie", lol

[@artimuscoffee8921]

💯

[@harbinger6753]

Too bad he never says the three letter word for the people behind communism and the worst mass murders of Christians in history.

[@markstevens1106]

Sometimes the defense of freedom requires the maximum response. And God requires it. Sooner or later even the orcs stumble upon the truth.

[@joshhoodrat451]

“It is now clear that we are facing an implacable enemy whose avowed objective is world domination by whatever means and at whatever costs. There are no rules in such a game. Hitherto acceptable norms of human conduct do not apply. If the United States is to survive, longstanding American concepts of “fair play” must be reconsidered. We must develop effective espionage and counterespionage services and must learn to subvert, sabotage, and destroy our enemies by more clever, more sophisticated means than those used against us. It may become necessary that the American people be made acquainted with, understand, and support this fundamentally repugnant philosophy” ~ Air Force General Jimmy Doolittle to President Eisenhower 1954

[@marytitus2874]

What's the maximum response.

[@markstevens1106]

@@marytitus2874 deadly force.

[@marytitus2874]

@@markstevens1106 Yep that's what I thought. At least you guys are being honest. May God have mercy. I'll keep praying that God reveals more truth and protects His church universal.

[@officialcheetahhopperz1]

“Pressed velvet six foot pictures of Trump…” I had to pause the video to finish laughing so I could hear the rest of what you were saying. Thank you Doug!

[@brentheltonj6308]

The gulag of archipelago makes more sense today

[@harbinger6753]

200 years together is more relevant

[@jessevandermolen3266]

Denethor here chiding Faramir while the city burns.

[@DMWayne-ke7fl]

Hey fren.

[@biggtell3922]

Very based

[@harbinger6753]

Doug is slaying the biggest straw man I've ever seen, but he would do well to come up with a real answer to the real issues facing white America, because when the battle comes, no one is going to give a rip about his pablum about vertical lines. Also, I see Kyle, and I hope you do too, friend.

[@biggtell3922]

@@harbinger6753 Wow, very well said. Magnus says hi

[@Benyamean]

Based friends

[@scrow321]

Really good

[@jackkensik7002]

good analysis

[@robertlewis6915]

I will like Wilson's Ashtown Burials example and appreciate that he's using his son's books when I can buy Ashtown Burials 4 for less than eighty bucks. Given that it's currently 84 freaking dollars to get the whole thing, I don't like the example right now. I'm very, very salty about the price tag. As much as I have my gripes about books 1-3, they were very enjoyable and I want to read #4 someday. Unfortunately, it's not Chesterton or Lewis or Tolkien, so 84 DOLLARS is a bit much for me to shell out, particularly in current times.

[@joys.6347]

From what I understand in listening to N.D. Wilson's podcast, he hopes to finish the newspaper subscription draft and one day get it properly published.

[@robertlewis6915]

@@joys.6347 And I'll stop being salty when that happens.

[@YourMom777-x3x]

Applebee’s and Doug

[@geneticsmatter3834]

All you have to do to see the significance of rayce is imagine a world without whytes. Really sit, and reflect on what that would look like.

[@aallen5256]

A world without Jews and Arabs wouldn’t include Jesus or numbers… really sit, and reflect on what that would look like!

[@aallen5256]

What is a white person? Can you just define that to begin with.

[@Benyamean]

@@aallen5256 no one is actively advocating for the eradication of jews and arabs in their homelands. You'll find the vast majority of white nationalists are opposed to international involvement in foreign wars.

[@Benyamean]

@@aallen5256 a white person is someone with markedly european traits, do not act like there is no such thing as european traits because you and I both know that "beauty standards" are routinely critiqued for being "white" so obviously something is phenotypically unique about white people by appearance at least.

[@aallen5256]

@@Benyamean “a white person is someone with markedly European traits” … but you can’t say what those traits are?? What do you mean by European - on the Eurasian plate, included in the EU, in the Schengen zone?

[@user-ks5cg5cd7m]

But where is the fourth book in the Ashtown Burials series?

[@00jaad]

The hat trick line was incredible Doug

[@ogloc6308]

100% Amen. Before Christ saved me, I was reacting exactly as you described in the last few minutes.

[@geneticsmatter3834]

Is it a virtue to be a Wilson? Not necessarily, but you still put the Wilson’s first. Thus it is so with rayce.

[@kentyoung5282]

Why? God commands a man to care for his household. Where is the command to care for one's race? Where is the concept of race and one's responsibility to it elucidated in the Bible?

[@isaiahxp9185]

@@kentyoung5282 the entire OT is nationalistic, and the idea of evangelizing nations in the NT corroborates the idea.

[@isaiahxp9185]

I think when Christ commands us to put him above even our family, so too we should put Him above our wider heritage, though he is not denying those things at the same time. Same idea with money; don't worship it, but God can bless you, and we all still work for it.

[@kentyoung5282]

@@isaiahxp9185 Don't conflate "nation," a thoroughly biblical concept, with "race," an idea the scriptures know nothing of. God separated people into nations, and individuals have specific duties to their own nation that they don't have to other nations, just like with their own families. God created only one "race," Adam's race.

[@isaiahxp9185]

@@kentyoung5282 I don't see how the two words can be separated. Consider the etymology of 'race': race (n.2) [people of common descent] 1560s, "people descended from a common ancestor, class of persons allied by common ancestry," from French race, earlier razza "race, breed, lineage, family" (16c.), possibly from Italian razza, which is of unknown origin (cognate with Spanish raza, Portugueseraça). Etymologists say it has no connection with Latin radix "root," though they admit this might have influenced the "tribe, nation" sense, and race was a 15c. form of radix in Middle English (via Old French räiz, räis). Klein suggests the words derive from Arabic ra's "head, beginning, origin" (compare Hebrew rosh).

[@rosefortheKing]

Uncle Doug, your shirt is nice too. :)

[@alleadonai]

I heard some "Winsome Tartness" Grace Agenda 2018 in there :'D

[@Vitlaus]

If you’re thinking about trying to save Sodom & Gomorra - Maybe pray first.

[@jimhughes1070]

Best "quote" ever!!!🤣🏋️🏋️🏋️🙏🙏 Whenever you're coming up with great sayings!!! That's how you come up with great sayings!!!🙏🙏

[@iohannesfactotum]

That's mighty white of you Doug

[@robertlewis6915]

lol

[@harbinger6753]

It's true, only white people feel this ridiculous urge to commit racial suicide, and Doug is 100% on board.

[@biggtell3922]

The problem with emphasizing the singularity of the spiritual division of humanity is that those who assert the loudest that "The real division is between Saved and Unsaved!" Are the same people who actively downplay, ignore, or actively deny the very real political, racial, sexual, or social/economic divisions. It may be that the Spiritual division is the most pivotal, but we cannot pretend other lines of conflict exist or we run the risk of permitting the Enemy to use these divisions to oppress and destroy believers who fall into some or others of those camps.

[@doejohn215]

The emphasis should be where the Scriptures emphasize. Paul in Roman is our example.

[@harbinger6753]

@@doejohn215 remember when he said he wished he could be accursed so that his ethnic brothers could go to heaven? Or when he said any man who doesn't care for his own, and especially his own family, was worse than an infidel? Since 'his own is seperate from 'his family', what do you suppose he meant by this? It's just unbelievable that every white person in the west has sold out to the idea that it is somehow virtuous to commit racial suicide so our ancient spiritual enemies can spoil our land, homes, treasure, and women.

[@biggtell3922]

@@doejohn215 >bro don't talk about ethnicity bro we're all one race bro please ignore the blatant anti-White system actively genociding Europeans bro This is why Christianity is dying

[@lulu9979]

Christianity is not dying. Christ Jesus is reigning. He is Lord of heaven and on earth. At that cross where he permanently crushed the serpants head, he has gained the victory for all time. This is the God that we serve. The one to whom The Lord said unto my Lord sit thou at my right hand until I make thy enemies thy footstool. He is judge and ruler over all. He is the one that said vengeance is mine saith the Lord, I will recompense. What are we called to do? Honor and serve the Lord, repent of our sins and seek his face. Nowhere does he say demand resolution. We are called to be like Christ. How was he treated? The man of sorrows and well acquainted with grief. If the Lord of glory was treated as such, how much more we? Yet he has said be of good cheer I have overcome the world. Men are sinners. All men of every race, kind and creed. How can we forgive sinners? Christ demands it of his people. Even as God for Christ sake has forgiven you. Have you seen your sin? The apostle Paul said O wretched man that I am who shall deliver me from the body of this death. I thank God through Jesus Christ the Lord. Nobody is denying sin, its nature and its cost. Yet greater than sin is the grace of God. Has not the grace of God been spread abroad in our hearts? How much more then can we not offer grace to sinners, who was it not for the mercy of God, we would do the same thing? Christ Jesus is the only sinless one.

[@calebgeary3890]

@@harbinger6753 the problem is that the assertions put forth are claims that are not verified, with a faulty assumption that disparities inherently equal oppression. Any economist or statician knows that using one variable to uni-laterally interpret data is asinine, and those on the left as well as many evangelical elites apparently have never taken a statistics or logistics. And their failure to use their brain in that matter has placed in a position to put the Gospel in jeopardy.

[@paulredding1955]

Aw, man, I'm an Orc!

[@thewisceeeggg1624]

...harangued for their men-ness... That certainly is a turn of a phrase

[@jeremyedgar7123]

Amen!

[@Daniel-pl9bh]

How are some people gonna watch this video, hear the warning of falling into the traps Doug outlines, and still fall into that very same trap anyway? The line that matters is vertical, not horizontal. Our battle is on a different plane, therefore we must fight it as such because we understand its true nature. Remember Ephesians 6:12. Don't fall into the trap of playing by the rules of their game, brothers.

[@biggtell3922]

Why does he feel the need to attack White people for defending themselves from racist attacks by putting them on the same moral level as the anti-White woke crowd?

[@Daniel-pl9bh]

@@biggtell3922 he's not attacking White people. He's giving advice so they don't fall into the trap of being on the same moral level as the anti-White woke crowd. If you are defending against attacks designed as decoys, you will suffer far more harm from the actual intended attack. Don't lose sight of the true battle; it's what they want.

[@biggtell3922]

@@Daniel-pl9bh He literally is, he's spending as much time counter-signaling pro-White people as he is attacking the Left. It was the same in his previous video RE: White Boy Summer. It's the oldest trick in the book: attack the Anti-White Woke crowd but then rush to attack the Pro-Whites just as much so you don't get called a racist. It's pathetic

[@Daniel-pl9bh]

@@biggtell3922 Your answer only shows how deeply you're falling into the trap. Can I ask you, do you identify more with being a Christian or being White?

[@harbinger6753]

Bigg Tell's responses aren't appearing for me, probably too honest and spicy for JTube. Anyway, Doug sets up a giant straw man in this video, as he always does on this topic, but you will never see him address any actual race realist positions, or debate anyone on this topic. Thats because he is a coward and a spiritual midget.

[@johnwurfel2862]

The pit...a great place to have a barbeque. NaHash, anyone? 🐲

[@benjamingilley9629]

Running ads in the middle of a clip? how about you guys do a little less marketing or do relevant advertising so you don’t have to do as many and you make more per click.

[@steveplodinec114]

DW is not advocating for Pacifism or Pietisim in the face of being attacked because you are white, or any other color. DW also does not (I think?) deny the example in Nehemiah 4:17-23 of defending with deadly force yourself and family and city and culture. Meet force with force when appropriate (when it is appropriate is another discussion). He is talking about your motivation for defending yourself. The world ("our enemies" in Nehemiah 4) is in fact singling out white hetero males. But just because their evil is based on and focused on race and culture, that does not mean our response is also based on race and culture. Though our response may end up defending a race from attack (all races should be defended), and it may also end up defending a culture, our motivation for responding at any level is to be "vertical" and defend what is right according to God. Their motivation IS "horizontal" and that is wrong and so it IS always right to oppose any evil motivated by a "horizontal" perspective.

[@harbinger6753]

Doug is just setting up a strawman because he doesn't have the moral and testicular fortitude to confront the de facto race war white Americans are already subject to. Our cities lost, our government in shambles, our culture thoroughly degenerated, and our population in steep decline. Clear eyed people on the right are racial realists, aware of ***ish power, and are demanding that leaders address these issues honestly and forthright. Doug, like nearly every other voice in the American evangelical church, would rather attack fellow white Christians than the anti-Christ parasites who are behind all of this. And he has the stones to suggest that we are the ones with the problem. Just remember, only the churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia are praised in Revelation. Doug, and others who think like him, should take a few minutes and see what they are praised for.

[@biggtell3922]

Doug: If you fight your enemies, they win! This is patently ridiculous and disingenuous. If we are being attacked by our Race, then Race obviously must matter. If Race matters, then Whites have just as much right to defend themselves on the basis of their Race as any other racial group As for the Nigerian Anglican, if you TRULY believe that Doug, why don't you move to Nigeria?

[@thesuperioraffection4502]

There is one race, the human race. There is no white or black race, we are ALL simply different shades of brown.

[@DMWayne-ke7fl]

Doug is the type of man who'd chide Aragorn for rallying the men of Gondor as the men of Gondor against the orcs. Rather than using the more technically and theologically correct frame of the cosmic battle between Eru Ilúvatar and Sauron. After all evil has no horizontal components and good men shouldn't care about protecting concrete expressions of God's image. You're just falling into an orcish frame.

[@ogloc6308]

@@thesuperioraffection4502 pale people aren’t any shade of brown tho

[@thesuperioraffection4502]

@@ogloc6308 Pale or white are just very light brown.

[@harbinger6753]

@@thesuperioraffection4502 it's a good thing that the boomers figured this out after all of our Christian ancestors for the last thousand years had gotten it wrong all that time.

[@TROY31688]

I wish you were my step dad

[@ionicplatypus8]

11th 😎

[@robertlewis6915]

11.1

[@ionicplatypus8]

@@robertlewis6915 😎😎😎😎

[@robertlewis6915]

@@ionicplatypus8 😎😎😎😎.1

[@ionicplatypus8]

@@robertlewis6915 lol loving this

[@robertlewis6915]

@@ionicplatypus8 lol loving this.1 (The superior version)

[@MetroplexAerials]

I thought that Orcs were Russians these days?

[@mikebrines5708]

No, Russians are the Men. NATO are the orcs these days.

[@robertlewis6915]

If I don't like them, they're orcs. Also, orcs are black people and you're a racist for calling all orcs evil.

[@UnderTheFloor79]

Yes

[@harbinger6753]

Yes, don't forget that all real Christians are on the side of the Christ deniers running Ukraine.

[@c_a_l5442]

All of Doug’s racial takes are 1. wrong and 2. boomer cringe. We get it: you were inculcated in an anti-White cultural zeitgeist. I sympathize, that sucks. But if you’re not capable of seeing and articulating, let alone fighting the battle at hand please don’t get in the way of those who can.

[@robertlewis6915]

I detected nothing anti-white in his statements. He was simply stating that being white isn't a moral virtue or vice.

[@c_a_l5442]

@@robertlewis6915 It's not that Doug is anti-White necessarily, but that he denies the legitimacy of racial categories and downplays the very real war/blood feud against Europeans, particularly its intersection with Christianity. Most people (rightly) calling him out yet again in the comments are either fans or appreciate his work and ministry, but are consistently disappointed by him in these matters.

[@hookoffthejab1]

@@c_a_l5442 I didn't hear doug so much as hint at anti white feudalism in Europe or even principles relevant to that situation. I think you're making massive jumps to conclusions

[@biggtell3922]

@@hookoffthejab1 He paints with a broad brush intimating that pro-White advocates are somehow on the same moral level as the Anti-White Woke crowd because something something racial identity bad. If the Enemy attacks you for your race (something you can't change and didn't choose, something God made you as), why shouldn't the Church defend those people on the basis of their race? The Church certainly feels no compunction about doing so for Black, Asian, etc. People, so why not for Whites (Who were the heart of Christendom for 2000 years)?

[@hookoffthejab1]

@@biggtell3922 your argumentation is "well these people do get away with it? Why don't we?". To start with, they shouldn't get away with it either, so that's not a model worth following. And second, you painted a perfect example of why racial identity isn't something to put much care into. "Something you can't change, and didn't choose", exactly. Why would we take pride in something that we had no part in affecting the outcome? "For who regards you as superior? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?" 1 Cor. 4:7

[@juanburke2647]

𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖒𝖔𝖘𝖒 😢

[@aallen5256]

In keeping with Matt Walsh insistence on definitional empiricism, I would like someone to tell me: what is a white person?

[@DMWayne-ke7fl]

The indigenous Europeans and their diaspora. If you want something more technical, Charles Murray's "Human Diversity" cover the genetic cluster analysis that shows race to be a real thing.

[@aallen5256]

@@DMWayne-ke7fl how do you define indigenous Europeans? Do you mean the indigenous European hunter-gatherers 7500 ago who interbred with migrating people from the Near East (Syria, Iraq, and Israel) where agriculture originated? That’s when the modern European gene pool was formed, about 7000 years ago. Blue-eyed swarthy hunters mingled with brown-eyed, pale skinned farmers as the latter spread into Europe.

[@Cinnamonbuns13]

What is a black person?

[@DMWayne-ke7fl]

@@aallen5256 Someone doesn't want to admit the obvious.

[@aallen5256]

@@DMWayne-ke7fl The obvious being??

[@Lombokstrait1]

Believe or be destroyed! But Anakin - only a Sith Lord Deals in Absolutes! So maybe your god is a Sith Lord? Sure seems like it when you read the bible. Vindictive and jealous!

[@ogloc6308]

John 3:19-21 “And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.” A sinful life is a path of destruction but God has given you a free way out. Jesus served your sentence for you if you would accept His free gift by believing in Him. You will serve your sentence like you want to if you reject His mercy. God is a righteous judge who convicts criminals. Knowing that we’re all criminals, He sent us a Savior that took our punishment for us so that we would escape the condemnation that we deserve. He can rightly let us go because Jesus took the punishment for us and gives His righteousness to all who believe in Him. God is calling you to Him, brother.

[@matthewdyer2926]

Is the Biblical God absolutely vindictive and jealous? Let's see how far your Star wars presuppositionalism gets you.

[@biggtell3922]

>heckin' marvel movie analysis Go back to Reddit

[@MetroplexAerials]

The more you look at it, the more you realize that Hollywood tries to smear God the King by shaping bad guys to poorly represent Him.

[@KevvoLightswift]

@Charlie Renfro “Believe or be destroyed!” Better than your alternative. “Believe AND be destroyed”. I’ll take my chances with a God who promised eternal life over nihilistic atheism any day.