I bought the Ping G425 last year. Not disappointed with my decision. Great driver. Would put it up against any driver that comes out in 2022.
@benmonroe_the_13 жыл бұрын
This is where I’m at too. I tried dang near every driver out last year. The TSi2 came the closest, but the G425 Max was clearly the best driver of the bunch imo. It’s the one that stuck in my bag. I’ve never been a Ping guy either.
@AsadKhan-lm6yr3 жыл бұрын
@@benmonroe_the_1 better than the epic?
@Stezo4life3 жыл бұрын
I love my 425 too
@msbutterflyinfluence3 жыл бұрын
Indeed love my G425 max...best decision
@yogamon2 жыл бұрын
Any driver since 2015 is essentially the same minus spin characteristics. Usga has dictated for years moi and Cor. Today they are not much different.
@edmc43153 жыл бұрын
I was fitted for the Sim2 Max after using it for a number of rounds I was able to test the Ping G425 and for me a much better fit. I ended up selling the Sim2 Max and bought the Ping glad I did.
@dontwastemytime2772 жыл бұрын
Love my G425max so much. I wish it could be even louder. The sound really makes me so hyped up after every shot. I love it. It turns heads and it give chills down my spin every time. I barely miss the fairway with it and even on a bad hit my ball was still well in playable rough area. It's a ridiculous forgiving club. And ping customer service is top notch.
@parmanduke3 жыл бұрын
Superb work. Differences are really marginal. G425MAX is most forgiving driver ever made and that's what works for me.
@mikeb38353 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme in very good condition for $180. It's not the longest driver, but I can't seem to miss a fairway with it, and it didn't break the bank.
@DaveENC3 жыл бұрын
If you can't miss the fairway with it, I think you may have found your driver! hit them long and straight this year!
@revilo97253 жыл бұрын
Pound for pound the best driver available still
@TheDeepsilver3 жыл бұрын
The club head speed difference of drivers is mainly an issue with how Trackman measures clubhead speed. Depending on the COG of the head, Trackman will, unfortunately, read it slightly differently even though you might be swinging the clubs at exactly the same speed. This is one of the advantages that GCQuad offers as the measurement is based on the points on the face vs. the COG of the club.
@NovaScene3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is a good reminder to have when ever watching Ping head numbers on Trackman. Always look only at the ballspeed, not ss or smash.
@4g63mark3 жыл бұрын
I really like the Ping. If they were the same price I'd definitely take the Ping. Great video
@jasonmiller40803 жыл бұрын
Now we’re talking! Love the straightness videos. Few and far between!
@Steve-jq4st3 жыл бұрын
I have a Ping G410 and it’s the best driver I’ve ever had. Might get the one after the G425. Finally the turbulators and the sound don’t bother me in the slightest.
@wallstreetoneil3 жыл бұрын
The 'next' 2023 Ping Driver, which improves the sound and loses the turbulators, will be the last driver anyone has to ever buy - good on TM for making their new driver more stable - finally a worthy successor to the 2016 M2 - now if only the could both sound like the new Callaways.
@DaveENC3 жыл бұрын
I agree about the turbulators, but I love the G425, and that Ping sound is one I love... EVERYONE knows when I ping one down the middle.
@lawbinson3 жыл бұрын
Don't get the turbulator hate tbh.
@CBC90192 жыл бұрын
@@lawbinson I hate em, last Ping driver I owned was the G25, I think every Ping after the G25 was terrible and sounded like crap IMO. Hoping for the best though for 2023 when Ping comes out with a carbon face with no turbulators
@JohnnyDSR2 жыл бұрын
Frankly they need to invest more money in the sound and feel of their hollow cavity "forged" series... i59 with the aluminum frame inside a small improvement... the i525 with a few strips of TPE is a real dissapointment regarding acustics IMHO. I will stick with Mizuno 223 / 225 for feel and sound and Ping for the long sticks only.
@lawbinson2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyDSR I'd rather they go back to cast and durability. With forged, they're going away from their strength and are stuck in the middle where they aren't winning over the forged crowd and leaving behind those who have enjoyed their cast players clubs for longevity.
@haivo20562 жыл бұрын
I made a similar test drive a couple weeks ago at our local Van’s golf in AZ. My test drive was comparing my current Ping G400 vs new G425 and TM Stealth driver. The results were, the G425 was more consistent and straighter drives and extra 5 yards. The Stealth tends to fade to the right side more than G425, resulting similar distance to my G400. I didn’t pull the trigger, since I would dish out $600 with G425 for an extra 5 yards!
@Michael_MJ3 жыл бұрын
Great review Michael.
@deepee15443 жыл бұрын
Just bought a G425 Max. Can't wait until spring here in Ontario, Canada!
@wkndwarrior47333 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the turbulators, but side by side I have to say I like the look of the Ping better than the Stealth, including the face. The matte, larger footprint, sole and face all wins in my opinion. But Stealth sounds so much better, wow
@torstenzimmer88483 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!! …i will keep my Ping Driver in my Bag ;-)
@barrysmith72913 жыл бұрын
I picked the g425 driver , I play out on a links course with heavy rough in season and I needed something which hits more fairways
@foxforma2 жыл бұрын
Just switched to G425 Max from Epic Max LS and it's such an awesome driver. I can't however get over the sound of G425 Max. Thought it was broke 1st time hitting it.
@ph59372 жыл бұрын
I made the exact same switch about 1 month ago. I thought I had a fake Ping club it sounds that bad 😂 I hit it much better than any driver I’ve had to the sound isn’t an issue at this point.
@jmtgolf27563 жыл бұрын
I played taylormade only for 15 years then switched to the g410 after my m5 busted during a tournament and taylormade told me to kick rocks and did nothing for me... now I have the g425lst and IT'S A MONSTER... haven't tested a single driver that's out performed it
@lederboard19553 жыл бұрын
Would be good to compare to Rogue ST Max as well. Thanks!
@Powder1483 жыл бұрын
I bought a g410 driver about a month ago preowned from the local pro shop never considered Ping but I hit that so consistent and longer so I just got the 4 hybrid. I’m 5 6’ and love the flat adjusting feature. Shoot I might have to buy the 3 wood next!
@davidgilbert97033 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I shoot better numbers w/ fairways, not extra 4 yards.
@jasonkim61373 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this review!!!
@edwardbrown62452 жыл бұрын
Great video .. question what was the shaft and stiffness? .. love the new Taylor made.. but the ping is always down the middle!
@SeanGolf2 жыл бұрын
Came from an Epic, I tried all brands, and ended up fitted for G425 MAX. Greatest driver I’ve ever owned. Feel like I can attack fairways instead of “try to hit them”
@kevinarbogast93093 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video!!
@nellynelson93872 жыл бұрын
Just got my stealth I've been trying different drivers over the past month or 2 and initial impressions are really good best driver I've hit so far. Ive tried Sim2 max, tsi3. Sim2 max feels harder of the face and dispersion wider for me not as consistent on distance either Tsi3 similar to sim2 max dispersion wise couldn't get the required launch with it. Not as long as sim2 max or the stealth Stealth really happy with so far nice softer feeling of the face seems easier to launch and constant distance wise. Longer constantly than my sim2 max and longer full stop than the tsi3 for me. Dispersion best out the 3. Also tried cobra ltdx, ping g425 ping too loud for me. Cobra just somthing about it I didn't like but numbers where good just didn't feel great of the face. Again all these where for me.
@dicknelson12293 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't one need to have the same shaft in each head to get a proper comparison?
@mattbrown942 Жыл бұрын
Nope. 99% of people are buying these off the racks with stock shafts. Best to compare them the way most people are buying them. You aren’t just buying the head, you’re buying the shaft with it as a package. So it’s good to see how as a package it performs compared to others.
@Stephno863 жыл бұрын
Dispersion goes to the ping,sound and a little bit more distance goes to the Stealth...ping has it on that factor alone for me, also on the track man there is very little between them..but the price difference of these clubs is insane.
@Grande792 жыл бұрын
They appear to be the same price unless I’m missing something
@Stephno862 жыл бұрын
@@Grande79 Ping g425 is 440 euros The Stealth is 480 euros at the time of this comment the Stealth was 580 euros
@Grande792 жыл бұрын
@@Stephno86 both $550 in U.S. currently.
@aviatoraw3 жыл бұрын
Really valuable info, thanks!
@alexbradley37312 жыл бұрын
I picked the Callaway Maverick for £162.50 two months ago, fantastic distance and on the fairway. First 🦅 ever and hitting 8-pw instead of hybrids or a 5 iron. The game is easier when your second shot is a high iron or wedges ⛳⛳ I'm a Happy man.
@marksweeney28343 жыл бұрын
Another good video as usual,I just can't get away will the sound of the ping mate 👍 also think I got one of them scam messages saying to WhatsApp you for the bushnell comp mate 🙈👍
@GolfsGingerGenius13 жыл бұрын
Love my 425 👌🏻 won’t be changing any time soon
@shawn64543 жыл бұрын
Seems like we're splitting hairs these days with the numbers. The drivers are so constrained by the USGA rules that there's not to much more the OEM's can improve on.
@chuckyz23 жыл бұрын
In distance maybe, which is why what they are working on is forgiveness. And they seem to be making progress, be it very slight with each new offering.
@richbyett67913 жыл бұрын
Good vid, would have been better if you could have thrown the new rogue st in there as well. Good to see the stealth performs well though, not just all hype
@MichaelNewtonGolf3 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for Callaway gear to arrive
@richbyett67913 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks, will eagerly await the review and verdict on that one 👍
@arrowphillips69022 жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan of the Stealth look but do like the club. For some reason the look reminds me of the driver that you would find in a Strata starter golf club set and not from one of the top companies in the game.... that’s just me though. I have personally owned almost every Taylormade set over the last ten years upgrading to the newest every other year....until this year I went with the Ping G425’s. Not sure there better but at 6’2 I wanted to try the white dot option.
@stephanjepards81483 жыл бұрын
For all intents and purposes with the standard deviation heavily overlapping for all values these drivers perform equivalent. If you fancy a new driver why not, but do not expect any difference in performance on the course
@sievans793 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video, would have been good to see Rouge ST compared to Ping.
@MichaelNewtonGolf3 жыл бұрын
Once I receive the Callaway gear those videos will be coming 👍
@sievans793 жыл бұрын
Great news, waiting to try both of them in a fit when available. Then hopefully won't have to wait a few months when ordering one.
@jonwright82363 жыл бұрын
great comparison review, think ill stick with my ping max :)
@kevynkeo90033 жыл бұрын
I'm sold!!🙌 STEALTH has more club head speed and in the 300s yardages!!😬😳💪 big different.
@CKGolfer3 жыл бұрын
I'd go with Ping
@antondeklerkdrtony3d412 Жыл бұрын
Did fitting thought I would be buying the ping ended up with the tm stealth
@deepee15443 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, do you always use stock shafts unless otherwise stated?
@mrpuck682 жыл бұрын
would you test out the Honma TW757 S driver, seems like a good driver, but noone has made any videos on it....
@rmf44993 жыл бұрын
Hi, Why do you have so low smash on your trackman? I've got the same problem with my Ping G425 LST, can't get it above 1.47 and averages 1.44-1.45 as you. Its not that you and me hit it bad, so why is it? Best regards.
@mattrohn82492 жыл бұрын
I having a weird challenge. Maybes it’s in my head. I went to the Roger Dunn store and tried every driver. The g425 was my best driver. Then I took the g425 to the range multiple times and the course. I haven’t figured it out. I Got frustrated and pulled back out my old TAymlormade R5 driver and was consistently hitting straighter and had maybe another 10-20 more yards. I couldn’t tell but I was hitting the back net consistently, where as the G425 one one bouncing to the net…is this in my head?
@user-gf3tg8qn5x3 жыл бұрын
Finally a review that looks at dispersion
@rautsi783 жыл бұрын
Srixon zx7 against stealth plus would be nice comparison!
@jerryledbetter11683 жыл бұрын
Just can’t get past the Ping sound. Definitely would choose Taylor Made in this comparison. Price might make one check for other brands. Enjoyed your video very much. As a Senator golfer, I’d like a few more tests with slower swing speeds.
@mattbrown942 Жыл бұрын
You’d get over it when you hit every fairway
@ryanalley24463 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! What does "Smash Factor" measure and what is considered to be a good smash factor?
@josiahjones95213 жыл бұрын
Smash factor is the ratio of your ball speed to your club head speed. For example a 150 mph ball speed with a 100mph club head speed will give you a smash factor of 1.5. 1.5 is the ideal smash factor value for a driver. Less for irons
@bricemott122 жыл бұрын
I think the better comparison would be G425 Vs Rogue ST Max.
@station2station5443 жыл бұрын
The sound of the PING alone is worth passing it by. Every driver is long and forgiving these days. Why suffer the hearing loss? It's THAT bad - especially with range balls, but even a premium ball is a offensively loud to those around you. If they quieted it down, Id play one. I play a tip stiff X-Stiff and that makes the PING even louder.
@ph59372 жыл бұрын
If anyone struggles with driver passing on the Ping because of the sound is madness. I have it and I agree it sounds bad but it’s a really easier driver to get on with.
@rickylalonde23172 жыл бұрын
Why are there so many gently used stealth drivers out there.?
@station2station5442 жыл бұрын
@@rickylalonde2317 Likely because they sell the most clubs so by simple math, more are on the used rack. We golfers trade shit in after one round, regardless of quality - just after a bad round because we played awful.
@station2station5442 жыл бұрын
@@ph5937 As per the video, the PING performs like most other drivers. The stealth here perform identically, but longer, and the relief when Michael switched to it was great.. If someone can't play golf because their reliance on marketing MOI is that overcooked, then I'd consider lessons or some truth medicine. I play with a guy who played the G425, unfortunately. The foursome dreads when he joins because of the offensive sound, but he's no straighter than the rest of us - and often about 15 yards shorter. MOI marketing reaches point where it really doesn't matter - and that was 7 years ago. Every company makes a G425-straight driver.
@donniecorrigan85193 жыл бұрын
Good Video, man the ping is loud!
@Stephno863 жыл бұрын
But feels sooo good ,and the results speak for themselves :)
@cthompson84053 жыл бұрын
Stealth is definitely the better driver. Glad I ordered the stealth plus and dumped the g425lst.
@mikey92 жыл бұрын
How you finding it?
@tcofield19673 жыл бұрын
Need to do the Rogue next.
@davidfinn98283 жыл бұрын
Great comparison as i have the ping but very interested in the stelth until i came to this review , for the price of the new tm stelth the ping is the clear winner
@Ortibobs3 жыл бұрын
As forgiveness is a big factor for these drivers, is there any difference between the size of the faces? The Stealth looks a little taller in the toe section and maybe shorter in the heel which might make a difference if your miss is in the heel or the toe.
@Murf18023 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great review,, very fair I gotta say ,Great job mike!! idk I'm loving that red face,even if there's no difference between the Sim2 and this Stealth ,the Stealth looks and sounds amazing!! I'd lay that money out for the Stealth!! Thanks Mike very good review!!
@chuckyz23 жыл бұрын
Would like to see these on GCQ. That could be the reason the club speeds are off. I've heard the trackman is bad with accurate spin numbers and that will change a lot of all the data. The GCQ is just so expensive. Or I would buy one.
@deepee15443 жыл бұрын
I guess it's expensive because it's better...
@kevinarbogast93093 жыл бұрын
You should do a driver lesson series.
@healthygolfer3 жыл бұрын
Are you using the same shaft for both drivers?
@MichaelNewtonGolf3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t get exact same for both, but both were 60 gram X flex same length
@tigertim92323 жыл бұрын
Shaftoid alert
@tigertim92323 жыл бұрын
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@JimLynch33093 жыл бұрын
What is the shaft your using in ping?
@healthygolfer3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelNewtonGolf Thanks. Keep swinging!
@nealfreeman013 жыл бұрын
I bet that Trackman will be coming out soon with an explanation of the miss read of club speed like it did with the Maverick soon. Testers that are using GC are not seeing the same increases in results at TM users.
@MichaelNewtonGolf3 жыл бұрын
TM measures different part of clubhead against GC, hence the slight difference
@jakemcclurg43693 жыл бұрын
What spec shaft do you use ?
@voyager81952 жыл бұрын
Is the ping shaft shorter?
@anthonyfarmer83873 жыл бұрын
The G425 is a fwy finder for me. It was the only driver I didn’t want to test (turbulators, sound) but it was the best fit for me and now I Love it. Shows the importance of fitting!
@musicsouth20332 жыл бұрын
How can you test with 2 different shafts🤔🤔🤔
@davidaylesbury46243 жыл бұрын
If you turn the Ping down 1 degree it would out perform the TM, were they the same length shaft?
@siprebcard5612 жыл бұрын
Callaway was longer than both in testing. Kinda shocked 😲
@mikecr49162 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you just weigh the heads, and what were club swing weights?
@JagerBan3 жыл бұрын
would love to see these against the mizuno st 220 g
@kortvinyard44132 жыл бұрын
🤣
@seancook22643 жыл бұрын
Game the G410 after 10 years with an R9 Supertri. Can’t see that changing nor any meaningful performace difference. Like the Turbularors amd the matt black finish. Expect I’ll obtain more improvement investing £500 into my physio training to improve my mobility and flexibility than a new toy.
@billyw28162 жыл бұрын
I got the g425 Max, don't think I'll ever change... Maybe the stealth fairway woods tho😂
@robertbranco11262 жыл бұрын
You need to tell the prices of both .. premium Stealth $850 ..regular Stealth $580 Ping G 425 max $550 regular price in the California Bay Area Ping had Labor Day 3 day sale $400 at GolfMart for the Ping G425 max just bought it plus Ping offers 50 percent more on your old driver trade in ..
@Matthew-qw1jg3 жыл бұрын
As a newer golfer, in need of a new driver, how much stock should I put in how a driver sounds? Literally the only thing giving me pause about getting the Ping G425.
@davidmayo33683 жыл бұрын
Only you can answer that question. The sound doesn't affect play, but personal preference of sound (and feel) is big. Ask yourself if you could get used to it 14 or less times a round. I hate the sound of many drivers, but it only lasts a second, so there's that.
@deanviescas Жыл бұрын
The ping soundsike bang bang maxwell's silver hammer mate 😂😂
@TenPester3 жыл бұрын
Very interested in a Stealth vs TSi3. I think TSI3 will stand up well against it.
@kortvinyard44132 жыл бұрын
Doubtful
@TenPester2 жыл бұрын
@@kortvinyard4413 I have both. They are matched well. Stealth isn’t that much longer.
@robertshields62143 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the ping sound. My buddy has one and I've never noticed it on the course but in the studio it sounds so loud.
@05reddragon052 жыл бұрын
G425 was the best driver I tried when getting fitted
@AntoneTheGolfGuy2 жыл бұрын
The ping is ok. Couldn’t quite get it. Almost sounds like a baseball bat too me. But the stealth is amazing. Just perfect right from jump!
@markking37793 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@kevinwood17223 жыл бұрын
Listened to this video with my earbuds (so my wife didn’t have to) and discovered one thing: yes that Ping is loud! Finding fairways to me is more important than that extra 10 yards.
@Stephno863 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more :) loving my ping driver, but for me the ping g425 3 wood was the find of the century :) i hit it further then my ping g425 max driver ^^
@machinehead93342 жыл бұрын
I had a driver fitting yesterday, tested both of these at 9* loft with stiff shaft (which I was surprised to find worked best for me as a 24 handicapper) and the G425 was the absolute clear winner. For me, the Stealth sounded duller and had a dead feel whereas the Ping gave me better feel, distance and dispersion. I also tested the Ping G425 3 and 5 woods and found regular shafts worked best. If I’d ordered a driver on instinct without getting fitted I’d have gone for a regular flex 10.5* so I would’ve been completely wrong!
@downsouth16783 жыл бұрын
Ping really has the best drivers , I really regret getting rid of my g400 ,
@legend90183 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. Not much in it when you take into account the standard deviations.
@1Hominid3 жыл бұрын
I rather like the sound of the "Title Text Here" driver. 😂
@goodboyp42613 жыл бұрын
How can you make the introduction any cheesier? I tested this driver it's not even live up to the hype or worth me switching from my Sims, it didn't do a thing in fact my sims put up better numbers.
@willemdewaal11273 жыл бұрын
If you removed the white dot on the left that dispersion ring would shrink dramatically.
@ajalikhanz2 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah the stealth is obviously better for you because you're hitting everything dead center! That's impressive you should've had an average golfer do this test.
@vikiwestall-eyre44402 жыл бұрын
Just bought a G425 coming out of my old faithful Cobra F9. Tested Callaway Rogue ST Max and Stealth (the red is awful but you gotta think about the numbers not the look). The Ping was higher launching 'shape-able', straighter overall and just better for me. The sound is so irrelevant, why do testers mention it as making a difference to purchase? If you can hit it long and straight who cares about the sound, just shows how fickle KZbin golf is eh. Loving my G425 and the sound it makes, it's like it is saying "yes there you go another one on the fairway"!
@74900kdw2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the sound thing. I am old enough to remember playing with persimmon drivers. When Taylor Made came out with their first Drivers and they were longer straighter and louder I never gave a thought to the louder part. Performance was what made me change to a metal driver. These equipment snobs would have you believe Pings sound as offensive as an old truck backfiring. All the hand wringing and pearl clutching over the sound seems like an OCD issue. Any well adjusted adult will most likely not even notice the sound after the first round or two. These equipment elitists would have a total meltdown if they went to a little league baseball game and had to endure the sound of aluminum bats.
@davidaylesbury46243 жыл бұрын
Just tested both, I was able to hit the ping just as far with a 3 wood Schaft as the Stealth with a standard driver shaft.
@jimmyculp87568 ай бұрын
I bet the Ping G425 Max ends up being 1 of Pings best drivers ever!
@roger1303 жыл бұрын
I would buy the ping but I hate that sound!
@michaelforrester8163 жыл бұрын
Made that mistake with the epic flash. Best in testing for me so got it. 2 months later I got rid cos couldnt stand the high pitch tinny noise!
@ichor203 жыл бұрын
My G425 max isn't the longest driver in my group but I can toe the crap outta it and it'll still find the fairway. Next Ping driver gonna be FrEaKiN LaZeRbEaMs
@Drizlye3 жыл бұрын
"title text here" lol
@dansburns3 жыл бұрын
This all comes down to launch angle and spin. If the G425 were built to the stronger loft specs I don't think you would see any difference between the two.
@Huub1e3 жыл бұрын
I got a chance to hit the new stealth. It's an excellent driver as long as you're hitting relatively close to the middle of the face. It's remarkable how consistent it is when you're off by 10mm or less. Feel is fantastic. But don't ever hit the edges of the club face because it's absolutely horrible. The ping shrugs off horrible shots and puts you in play regardless. Personally I would far prefer being in play. Ping for me thanks.
@SnoopyGolf2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to dispersion heads don’t matter as much as shafts.
@ianbarton25813 жыл бұрын
Once again a comparison vlog with stealth vs a n other showing no difference. No need to upgrade . TM would be better to go to 2 yr cycles and really find improvements, at the moment they come across as a company more interested in hype that help.
@leewalford24683 жыл бұрын
The sound of the ping 😖
@dominicdurso36722 жыл бұрын
Which ever one is newest 🙄
@BLKMeSa3 жыл бұрын
I've played Ping irons and drivers for many years, and much prefer the company and equipment over TM, but the new G425 woods sound awful, even a step back from the 410 series. I'm hoping they go carbon crown in 2023 like they had in the Rapture back in the day. Then it will be the ultimate driver.