Straight Pipe vs X Pipe. Which is best? V10 TDI Touareg

We decided to remove the crude downpipes that came on the car and fabricated our own stainless items before trying to improve that V10 sound with a rear X-Pipe!
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[@br4d101]

Straight pipes sounds absolutely insane on these! The cats are really holding the v10 sound back, will probably sound nice with the x pipe n decat

[@whut8593]

Straight sounds better in my opinion, Dan is a bloomin artist either way!

[@TheMidget102]

Actually think it sounds better without the X pipe.. true dual sounds better...

[@Alex.P_10]

Meh, with the straight pipe sounds like a normal 4 cylinder diesel with a straight pipe. Yeah its louder and the turbos can be heard better. But you wouldn't know its a V10 if there wasn't a badge on the trunk. With the X pipe in the higher RMP you can definitely hear that it's not a regular diesel engine. If they make the X pipe bigger it would be louder.

[@TheMidget102]

@@Alex.P_10 I have the 4.2tdi Q7 and I tried H pipe, X pipe and straight pipe, stuck with the straight as it sounded better in my opinion....

[@buggerlugz6753]

Wider X required to make it louder. Still sounds better with the X though!

[@gyula6516]

Bigger X pipe would sound even better!

[@MidShipCivic]

@@Alex.P_10 No.

[@kovacspis]

Epic meme Lambo sound clip

[@woody555kl]

I was just going to comment about that when i heard the toureg sound like that i had to rewind the vid coz i thought i had missed something🤣 i want a toureg that sounds like that lol🤪

[@select899]

Taking them cats off will makes a world of difference, looking forward to it!

[@Levent_Ergun]

7:50 lmao, I deep down expected some of that sound.

[@FiveWaveMedia]

Straight pipes has the inline 5 sound but the x pipe gives it that lambo 5.0 high pitch sound.

[@deanw9705]

Pull the sound deadening off the firewall, and use a half-moon ratchet wrench to get at the nuts on the back of the turbos. The cats will come out with the engine in the car. Worst case, you might have to drop the front subframe and diff. Still easier than dropping the whole engine out. Hope this helps!

[@mikemacb7rs4]

Anyone else have to turn on Closed Caption? Love the video and the V10 Touareg.

[@madrx2]

+1 for straight. That thing is a monster, love it.

[@imranyaqub1790]

Straight pipes sounded better in all the sound clips. 👌🏼. Nice work on the X-Pipe though.

[@chrishuddlestone9262]

Loving the craftsmanship Dan. Personally I prefer the sound of the X - sounds purposeful without being ott. Often wish for a little more “nice” noise from my Touareg v6 tdi (guess that’s why the dynamic exhaust speaker thing exists).

[@Alex.P_10]

With the X pipe it definitely sounds more exotic in the higher RPM. If you make the crossover bigger it would sound amazing imo.

[@CrazedCrittic]

Dan is THE man. Skillz right there! What difference does the X-Pipe make on the dyno? That's what I want to know :)

[@seatpaul]

I am amazed at what you can do with this machine. Very cool.

[@Boatlife1964]

Both sound bloody awesome to me...howling!

[@34snip]

X pipe are more effective when they are installer closer to the engine. Benefiting more of the exhaust pulse coming from each piston. Futher away from the engine, the pulsing become less pronounced. More sound with a screamer ? ;)

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We might try it, double X pipe?

[@Mo_tism]

X pipes the whole way front to rear haha

[@rubenbraekman4515]

@@DarksideDevelopments sounds fun!

[@guidoheeling1179]

Actually the xpipe only really improves scavaging with equal length exhaust manifolds, which is just not really a thing on dkesels

[@gordonmccartney5648]

Sounds better than most petrols

[@mikedowland9949]

Dan is the man when it comes to welding but defo prefer the straight pipes😉

[@marcakko2010]

both look very high quality build , i like the sound from the straight pipes but be nice to see what they sound like once you have removed the dfp

[@jackmillin]

Proper craftsmanship that, it looks spot on 😎. Sound wise I think the 2x single straights sounded better, the turbo spool noise seemed louder on the straights. It will be interesting to see you remove the engine and de cat it. 👍👍😎😎 Top upload again.

[@Yasin5791-d7u]

This engine sounds amazing.

[@arden6665]

Wow I love this thing man. I'd of never of thought of buying one but now you have me thinking. Keep up the good work fella

[@finlay230]

chuffin ell, that shifts !!!, Xpipe deeper quiter, Str8s more aggressive - great vid !

[@sb6236]

What a craft, its almost a shame for that to get covered in mud. Awesome machine and superb production. Really slick

[@DarksideDevelopments]

You cant see it now

[@robbo1967]

well... they both sound great. If you want a naughtier noise then the straight pipe wins, more refined, x pipe. For a daily the x-pipe would make more sense.

[@sola9740]

7:52 nice sound

[@DigBipper188]

The X pipe sound clips sound pretty much like how I would imagine a diesel Huracan would be :)

[@evofab]

hi great job and his more aggressive x pipe

[@davespooney8472]

Isn’t there a way of going inside the pipe upstream and smashing the cat out with a bloody big steel pipe cleaner?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Possibly but it's close to the turbo!

[@davespooney8472]

@@DarksideDevelopments Be rhyte lad

[@nousername.4831]

Drill them out! 👍🏼

[@stu0500]

Any straight pipped large diesel sounds mega. Had a 535d which had been fettled with by Stan at eco tune. That thing sounded mighty.

[@cgoodwin2875]

I have never seen any benefit to an x-pipe at the tailpipe. No scavenge effect back there but an awful lot of gas trying to get through one pipe diameter now. Surely a nice balance pipe at the front somewhere would be the best of both worlds.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We might change it. Can easily pull it in the Dyno to see.

[@rpwhite05]

“Until we need the engine out for some reason “ you’ve cursed it now pal 😬

[@mikedavies4387]

Sounds spot on what a beast talking about beast me sons golf is a right beast now is mother was like garfield lol highly recommended you guys

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Glad you like it!

[@mikedavies4387]

@@DarksideDevelopments yeah its sound did you do a video of it

[@Elliotdudley]

Might be a bit of a Helmholtz chamber by accident, sounds sweet with x pipe 👌

[@stenhouse8569]

7:54 that made me chuckle

[@Dotherightthing24]

X pipe keeps natural back pressure to keep the engine in torq power but slows the Rev of the engine Straight pipe less back pressure allowing the engine to Rev more freely at the expense of less torq power Both options won’t matter to much for normal road use fast road use is where the design and decision to straight or x pipe

[@marksam6824]

Straight pipes is the best way to go 85mm Diameter will work. The water leak on the left bank is from a coolant pipe at the back side of the engine. IF YOU JAPAN'S hands it mite work, best is to pull the engine?.

[@andysautomotiveadventures9587]

Bigger x pipe. X Pipe allows the engines exotic design to be heard

[@forddoctorforddoctor5918]

Definitely definitely definitely the straight pipe👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@sharperprospecting6980]

Nice work. Though in my opinion the straight pips sound better

[@JohnDoe_333]

xpipe sounds much better for the car. straight pipe is a bit to "dirty" for a suv cruiser, with the xpipe the sound is "smoother".

[@ItzJigz187]

It's quieter due to the extra total pipe length in each pipe

[@Jahmed5635]

Mk5 5dr r32 with the dsg box on the channel would definitely be cool 😎

[@DarksideDevelopments]

But its not a diesel!

[@domsgarage1298]

X pipe is a bit cleaner. I like it

[@НиколаНиколов-ь3и]

Any other mods planned for the car? Like turbos, intercooler, fuel system... all sort of power mods?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Not sure yet, room is a premium!

[@keithryan9314]

Well Ryan The xpipe sounds way nicer 😇 To be quoted inside the cabin wouldn't be a bad thing if it were boomy 🙃

[@matthewhunt8631]

With cats out it won’t pass emissions would it be a pain in the ass to have to take the engine out every time to do both the old cats back on for MOT

[@dturbo306]

Called a friendly tester or do your own mot

[@xMiRAZ94]

The straight pipe definitely sounds better

[@mrAudisubaru]

I think the X pipe should be at the begining of the exhaust right after the turbos.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

Yeah, you definitely cut the X too deep. 1/3 of each pipe should be cut, not 1/2. For matched flow you should pretty much go by the 4/3 diameter rule. If two pipes are joining into one, the one pipe needs to be bigger otherwise you get a restriction. this is only for stuff after the headers/downpipe, though. Headers are a different game that you can't really use general rules on.

[@MosGarage988]

crazy exhaust 😂😂 👍

[@gedas3419]

X pipe under transmission? Would Dan try that?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

A lot more work but we might do it!

[@rubenbraekman4515]

That tube flaring machine looks pretty nifty, where can a guy snip one of those up?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

£15000 with tooling!

[@billasohyeah]

I do think it sounds better, but I also think the x pipe is too small. Dyno it to see if it's a restriction

[@RandomBoi-mc3ob]

I prefer the X pipe tbh

[@Sj1bby]

So, has anyone on the internet got a video of a lambo V10 swapped an touareg yet? That 7:50 clip 🤔🙈

[@simonwills7275]

Defo. Better with the straight pipe

[@QZYFOG]

Could you gut the catalytic converters in place by removing the inner bits leaving a hollowed out chamber? Could be a temporary sound improvement while waiting for an engine removal.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Not easily!

[@QZYFOG]

@@DarksideDevelopments Dang it. Love the v10 videos, keep em coming!

[@JRWILDY]

Just an idea. The two pipes could meet and straight out into a middle single exit exhaust.

[@raccs600]

U mean y pipe

[@voydnaught1397]

Diesels sound better when proper straight piped (de-cat) and with big bore back boxes. Change my mind.

[@lukekilah6257]

X pipe should be directly after the engine. Then a resonator before each exit.

[@TheMidget102]

Yeah should be as close to the down pipes as possible

[@ryanp6138]

We might do it another day

[@Titaniumkiwi]

Straight is great, x pipe sounds stealthy!

[@tisys]

Straight pipe is better, but this engine is VERY quiet without mufflers

[@Adrianzx]

I'd say the x pipes are an improvement

[@danielmarshall4587]

"at some point the engine will come out of this".... just off camera an actual shudder runs through the workshop. As for the X-pipe or staight...not sure personally, good vid though as always cheers.

[@andyhunt457]

X sounds better just.But Y?

[@ryanp6138]

H?

[@andyhunt457]

@@ryanp6138 A???

[@DarksideDevelopments]

@@andyhunt457 R

[@andyhunt457]

@@DarksideDevelopments K

[@rafraf9876]

why Darkside is so far away from me? : ( I want my Audi 1.6 tdi remapped, EGR delete and dpf delete too :( :( :(

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Powergate

[@TheShootingBrake]

It’s pretty quiet either way.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Inside the car it is

[@iwasherefirst786]

Straight 💯 %

[@RDubbayah]

Please see my email with the links on how to replace turbos and likely the cats with the engine IN the truck. We want FULL delete pipes! Please.

[@Zscach]

What was the liquid coming out of the exhausts and why? Seems like a LOT! Stoked about the regular V10 content!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Its just water

[@Chris-hw4mq]

Xpipe is best for the tuareg,

[@xxmeanyheadxx]

best advice for removing dpf bolts? i cant get an extractor on em i think i might have to cut

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Just cut them and fit new bolts and nuts!

[@A6RXN]

Anyone remember the sound of The Jetsons vehicles?.....

[@TheMk100000]

What would the labour cost to fit all 4 full decat pipes to a v10 tuareg? I want to decat mine but did you mean it an engine out job to fully decat these?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Drop us an email to [e-mail] with reg/vin and we will let you know costs

[@anonlincracing2484]

My dad has just bought 1 of these and the fault thats come up as corrosion is that a common thing do these have exposed areas ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Not seen any rust on this?

[@Kimakachilly]

I have the 2.5tdi r5 Touareg make something cool for that plz 🥺🥺🥺🥰

[@Txuskas_]

I was about to buy your downpipe to delete the DPF, but I saw in that video it was broken or melted, is that correct?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Not sure what you mean? www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-5-0-v10-tdi-touareg-dpf-delete-kit.html

[@gamingxbox]

are you guys fusion tig welding your stainless together without filler? looks gorgeous

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Yes, thanks!

[@francesco2809]

Sounds better without the X-pipes

[@tommorgancars5726]

Has this been on the dyno yet? Interesting series 👍

[@DarksideDevelopments]

yes a few video's ago, needs to go back on with decent tyres!

[@Vr6.christos]

You can barely hear it when driving. And it’s still quiet reving

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Going bigger if we ever get time!

[@v12mercedes-benz72]

X or H pipe. Not lose any power,

[@mikeyjenkins9751]

The X pipe deffo has a beefier sound

[@marcelobernardes3259]

The old dpf pipes did not have anything pluged to them, i believe you have pluged in the exhaust temperature sensors, should not be anything more pluged in? Lambda sensor, pressure sensor?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

All that is further up, pressure is pointless to connect up

[@marcelobernardes3259]

@@DarksideDevelopments so on a "normal" dpf pipe (without scr filter), it makes sense to leave pluged in the lambda and exhaust temperatura sensors just for monitoring?

[@xCroTv]

my v10 phaeton always blows up the exhaustmanifold on the left side... i have it chipped but i dont know what i should do it broke down the 3 time

[@jamesibbo1]

Looking good, do you purge the inside of the exhaust when welding ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We dont on most stuff, it's not medical grade

[@DannyWright95]

Wouldn’t have the xpipe defo sounds better with two straight

[@TheCousinRap]

Nothing like V6 tdi

[@TheMidget102]

The v8 tdi isn’t far off, but I’ll agree the v6 is a masterpiece straight piped 😂

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Their X pipe is pre turbo!

[@TheMidget102]

@@DarksideDevelopments who’s x pipe is pre turbo? The v8 tdi? It doesn’t join until the rear muffler... and the v6 tdi is normally just a Y pipe at the rear?

[@stian931]

yey :D x-pipe

[@maxjamieson3341]

Strait pipes sounded better than the X pipe

[@markdavie9270]

Next videos cast off😂😂

[@MSGamesOfficial]

Sounds like 1.9 TDI

[@5hizzy]

No dpf??

[@DarksideDevelopments]

This Didn't have any

[@marksam6824]

Looking a 2nd hand CAE shifter for a MK1 golf let know please

[@tariqmohammed8505]

why does it give black smoke on take off is that normal

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Its an old PD engine

[@fivedotsdave9723]

No purging whilst tig welding?.....

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Not on something like this

[@blood_upon_the_rose]

X pipe all day

[@scipor]

X Pipe is a lot better!