Stranded On An Alien World

As we reach out to explore the stars, could we find our explorers getting lost on new worlds, inhabited or otherwise. What should we do if stranded on an Alien World?
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Stranded On An Alien World
Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur
Episode 368a, November 13, 2022
Written, Produced & Narrated by Isaac Arthur
Editors:
David McFarlane
Cover Art:
Jakub Grygier www.artstation.com/jakub_grygier
Music by:
Martin Rezny, "Lifelight"
Denny Schneidemesser, "Bridge Ambience"
Stellardrone, "A Moment of Stillness", "Cosmic Sunrise", "Limbo", "Red Giant"
Aerium, "Fifth Star of Aldebaran"
Miguel Johnson, "Strange New World"

[@narxes]

Sometimes I wonder if Isaac is actually an alien stranded on this planet. His knowledge seems suspicious 😛

[@annoyed707]

Shssh!

[@ryanfritts1574]

It's his wife

[@JakubKas]

Guys he's a alien impostor!

[@randysmith9715]

In another scenario; Isaac is busy inspiring the natives to develop their technology and science so he can go back to his own culture. He has some difficulty in speaking some sounds that don't exist in his own language, so pretends to have a speech problem. He even marries a native...... More to follow!😀

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

@@randysmith9715 and just adopted 3 kids too :)

[@concernedcitizen803]

Isaac it would be fun to do one on alien tourists. I imagine it is very possible that aliens may not all have an understanding of their technology similar to how many people can't explain how engines operate

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

It might make a nice shout out to douglas adams too :) I'll think on it

[@thekingofcardboard]

Yeah. I'd love to see a realistic take on Roadside Picnic

[@reporeport]

That would be awesome!!!

[@taesu8]

@@isaacarthurSFIA I recommend manga Level E. A slapstick story where alien prince reveal baseball is popular tourist attraction for aliens.

[@jefferiestubeladd3261]

@Isaac Arthur 2:27. 👈 It's the future here here. Mind over body over aging process is thinking big.Imagine if we as humans have individuals who were born without lesser torso on the lower half of the body begin to walk and live over 200 with minimal ambulatory difficulty via cyborg implants and just to mimic human skeletal frame so 0% space sickness or bone density complication. I'll call these extended assignments the astronaut aging and the handicapped class retirement plan for future astronauts. Extreme, but I will not be surprised if indeed these really exist or in the works I would dream of aging in such a plan 🤔.

[@SpazzyMcGee1337]

Reminds me of that one Orion's Arm page about the competition of dropping a group of sapients or post-sapients onto a planet to see how quickly they can get back into space, like a speedrun. Some baseline contestants need to build entire civilization over multiple generations. Others are so advanced in body and mind that a small group can do it by themselves. If I'm not mistaken, winners get the planets.

[@estherclawson6876]

Dang it, some one's probably already taken that book idea haven't they.... Oh well. Different people could portray it differently, in their own ways. But I need to finish my other books before I get tangled up in any others.

[@lindsaywheatcroft8247]

“There is also no plausible physical attraction going on here, the plumbing is not even vaguely compatible” Oh, Isaac, you’re so innocent

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

All members of the navy are screened for any possible attraction to any undiscovered alien species. It's an entry requirement.

[@springbloom5940]

Then there's Left Hand of Darkness

[@alfredsutton4412]

Oh, he is … he is!

[@kek105]

One could also clone a haram of female daughter/wifes, just saying

[@thunderspark1536]

@@kek105 Sweet home Alabama

[@harbl99]

Not shown in _Predator_ : the fortnight or so the Yautja spent blasting its guts out moaning "Ohgodohgodohgod please let it stop" while acclimating to the unfamiliar water and proteins.

[@sidpomy]

I watch your videos religiously and I just have to say - your ability to speculate on the future and technology is some of the best. Endless thanks for sparking my and others' curiosity.

[@cyclingnerddelux698]

Isaac. I spend many a snowy winter night in the mountains of Austria relaxing and enjoying you work. Thanks.

[@iivin4233]

Thinking about this concept makes you realize some things. The basics aren't enough unless you have practice building motors, fuses, pumps, ducts. Even most carpenters would have to learn from the locals rather than the other way around. So, what one thing would you bring with you if you knew you were being stranded, aside from a box of manuals? I'd bring surface plates or a micrometer so I could make myself a set of blocks. I'm sure you could convince a handy person or a bureacrat of their potential uses.

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

I wonder if I could figure out a way to make an episode out of that, "What to bring with you when stranded on a desert Planet"

[@jotasietesiete4397]

@@isaacarthurSFIA Please do!

[@iivin4233]

@@isaacarthurSFIA I'm sure you could. Apparently plants can grow in lunar regolith. There is at least one new paper on that. In one of your videos you said one of the things we wouldn't ship off earth was soil. We'd make our own. It seems like making soil would be a hell of a process of tumbling and chemical purification. Though, I'm game for figuring it out because we are using more dirt these days than nature is making. Maybe your colonist stranded themselves to figure out how to make paydirt or die trying.

[@Archgeek0]

Don't you just need to rub three plates together to make your own surface plate? I recall there's some funky bit of geometry that makes the 3-plate method the basis of modern precision.

[@iivin4233]

@@Archgeek0 Yeah that's how it seems to work. I've never done it so I want something with me that I can check my work against lol.

[@bryandraughn9830]

The persistent feeling that I don't belong here is starting to make a lot more sense. Thanks for the advice! The one planet with the mushrooms would be fine XD Seriously, I appreciate your stories and videos. It's sort of like having a friend.

[@cannonfodder4376]

Nothing like another Sci-Fi Sunday episode to spice up my day. Wonderful work as always Isaac.

[@brandong.1857]

Right? Love this Channel.

[@thunderspark1536]

If you haven't already issac, I'd recommend playing Subnautica, all about exploring an alien world and curing yourself of an alien virus while avoiding big spooky aliens.

[@kayskreed]

In one word: Metroid. Probably one of my fav sci-fi tropes out there. I wish there were more Alien-esque franchises especially in the visual medium.

[@Twisted_Logic]

I don't know how a series manages to simultaneously be so popular, yet under-discussed. Truly a mystery

[@r3dp9]

@@Twisted_Logic There's surprisingly little to discuss. There's lore, sure, but most of the beauty of that series is either visual or in the game mechanics.

[@Toven_WaveWatcherFi]

And Subnautica

[@stcredzero]

Sneaky. Issac makes a reference to the "coconuts into radios" writing conundrum near the beginning, but doesn't call it out by name until the end! Lots of writers seem to have problems with giving the characters enough capability to make the story interesting without invalidating the stranding pretext, and this is like a class on how to do it properly. Also, more proof that all of the world's philosophical and psychological questions have already been posed by Gilligan's Island!

[@mandiblackwell4668]

I just read a series that was about human civilization becoming stranded on a foreign world after a long long travel. It is so far a well done series. Space Colony One by JJ Green. If you also can recommended any other good scifi plz tell!

[@reporeport]

7th time trying to listen to this without falling asleep. Isaac is such a good dude I always just feel so safe and relaxed when he’s talking I just fall right asleep thinking and dreaming about all the new ideas

[@spidalack]

Have to love this channel. Can't help it. From the always well developed ideas and logic, to that remnant of your speach issue that honestly gives your naration that unique flavor that just grips my brain and forces me to listen to what you're saying. I always look forward to listening to you again. Keep on being awesome!

[@christophe5756]

@IssacArthur: You see! By now you MUST realize that people DO love your voice!

[@Jon6429]

Long before Andy Weir wrote 'The Martian' there was 'Shipwrecked' by Charles Logan. A similar tale of a lone survivors struggle for survival on an alien world, growing your own food and improvising with the remains of the ship sort of thing. If tou like the whole Robinson Crusoe in space thing it's a great page turner and the ending will change you forever.

[@PyroMancer2k]

Your story of Martin questioning all the old Sci-fi shows and why they didn't do things reminds me of the Orville episode where this exact case came up. They were testing a time machine device which mistakenly sent one of the crew into the past. In order to save him though they use it to take the ship back and retrieve him but in doing so the device is destroyed beyond repair. Their solution to getting back to their own time is the old fashion way of waiting it out. But they do this in a real Sci-fi way as their engine generates a field so they don't suffer time dilation when traveling at light speeds.Thus they rig the engine to turn this off and then simply pick a star 100 light years away, warp to it and back so that 200 years have passed for the rest of the universe and arrive back at the point in which they left. Another Sci-fi series Sanctuary had the main character Magus going back in time with no way back. In her case she was extremely long lived so she simply went into hiding and live out her life waiting to rejoin the original point at which she left.

[@smoore6461]

Always LOVE SciFi sundays!Sundays!! I have to say I have always thought Isaac should write a science Fiction book or anthology of short stories! Great episode sir, I've been a fan for years now!

[@DeltaVTX]

I’ve often daydreamed: how far could I advance technology in 20 years if I was stranded in 1822? I think I could get you as far as Marconi…

[@r3dp9]

I couldn't teach people anything about how to make smartphones, but I COULD tell people about ergonomic keyboards and good UI. Which wouldn't help, since once we had a good UI (Windows 2008, Windows Explorer 2008, Internet Explorer 2008), big tech has been obstinately making UI worse and worse (Windows Vista, Windows 9, Windows 10...) At the end of the day, the most value would come from history and cultural values - ie, a bible. It doesn't matter how much you can help people in terms of technology, if you can't help them make better choices with that technology.

[@kobebarka8633]

Happy Sunday! Isaac Arthur as always puts out an amazing video on a very interesting topic! I recommend these videos to all of my friends when they are looking for something new to watch

[@kevinfidler6287]

I would make the assumption that every planet that isn't Earth would be hostile to life for a human. Vice versa of course for an alien (providing they exist). Heck even Earth for the most part is hostile to human life.

[@cholten99]

"Even if I didn't like the ending". After watching it I went to bed angry and woke up still angry. It's been the source of many a pub-based debate as to whether an appalling ending (also c.f. Game of Thrones) can invalidate an entire up-to-then excellent show (I say yes).

[@jasontoddman7265]

I'm surprised we didn't get a Lost in Space reference in here. Then the first rule of survival would be: Get rid of Doctor Smith ASAP!

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

I was tempted, but I've only watched a little bit of the newer series and figured I'd need to root any references in that rather than the original.

[@jasontoddman7265]

@@isaacarthurSFIA Being 66, I was greatly impressed by the original; until it got too silly in the 2nd and 3rd season thanks yo Dr. Smith. Another reason they should have just shoved him out an airlock. If you never saw the first season of the original however, you've missed some rather quality old-school sci-fi imo. 😁The movie and the remake series otoh were just plain garbage.

[@thebushwacker]

Planet 6319? I love when I hear a wh40k reference

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

I'm glad someone got that one, seemed appropriate to reference book one with the finale finally on the way :)

[@TheVoiceOfReason93]

To quote a certain stranded astronaut: "I'm going to have to science the shit out of this thing."

[@sobertillnoon]

It might be because I'm slightly intoxicated but with that opening shot I really thought you were going to say "this episode is brought to you by aliens"

[@Harkeilla]

No, but that should be the motto for 'history' channel.

[@DrWondertainment821]

Hooray, I'm always happy to see new videos on this channel.

[@benjystrauss2524]

Interesting choice of civilizations and scenarios. Several scenarios that you hadn't discussed: an alien choosing to contact the local primitive (1970s-type) government for help getting back home; crash-landing on a planet with non-human primates like Orangutans and making them technological.

[@travisporco]

Love it...one of my favorite series is the Tschai/Planet of Adventure series by Jack Vance, on this very topic.

[@pro126]

Love these end of week videos😃😃😃

[@joz6683]

Thanks for another great video and all your hard work...

[@Anonymous-qi2zh]

Thanks. I'll keep this in mind when I'm stranded on an alien world

[@ellenmcgowen]

Re: the time to get agriculture up & running. Humans had to evolve modified enzymes for metabolizing new nutrients in agricultural crops and dairy products. This is why some populations of humans today have trouble digesting milk (as adults) or even wheat: their ancestors didn't practice dairy farming or wheat cultivation. Adding in the time to coevolve digestive enzymes with artificially selected food sources probably adds centuries, or possibly millennia, to the time to create a fully agricultural society.

[@PyroMancer2k]

The story of Athena reminds me the Anime Dr. Stone as he's a genius stuck in a stone age world and getting them rebuild. Though unlike Athena he does know how a radio works and even makes one. ;)

[@playmaka2007]

I love Sci Fi Sundays. Isaac, you're such a good storyteller

[@PeterSwinkels]

I always enjoy these episodes and this was one of the really good ones imho. 😊

[@splank3]

I remember the final episode of SeaQuest DSV (or Seaquest 2032) had the entire submarine transported to another world, and the main characters escape except for one kind of slow talking guy, and the talking dolphin.... stranded in the water on an alien world. That was a cliffhanger I still think about.

[@YodaWhat]

*On An Alien World, Stranded?* Several humans I know, all their lives like that have felt.

[@jasontoddman7265]

Me too. I watched My favorite Martian when I was a kid in the 1960s and immediately felt a kinship to Uncle Martin.

[@JvDommelen]

Great visuals and story! Again

[@annalorree]

Love the BSG reference, Isaac! That was one of the best-written series to have ever been made.

[@stormevans6897]

I love your mind. Thank you for your service.

[@Kelmorcellus]

Isaac. I revelled in James Lovelocks The Gaia Hypothesis in college! I'm beyond excited to watch that episode when it's out!!!

[@nichtsicher962]

To be honest, the more i watch stuff from you, the more i feel sure, and well, thx for your voice, like every week :)

[@vivjames1357]

Another great video, thankyou Issac and happy veterans day, ...hooah👍

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

Hooah :)

[@JasonCummer]

This will be interesting to see what you have to say. This is the premise of sooo many games out there.

[@addisonchow9798]

Nice sequel to the crashed ship episode.

[@John-ci8yk]

Thank you and thumbs up.

[@MrChriss000]

How could you not like the ending of BSG 2004? Divine influence aside, it ended the only way it could have.

[@djschultz1970]

All I can think right now is "Nanoo Nanoo! Shazbot!"

[@loramorganminer7251]

Mindy Mindy Mindy!🤣

[@thefederalrepublicoferusea3900]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[@TheHighJester9991]

Time to invent the ketchup packet!

[@Robothuck]

love your videos man

[@allenwood9967]

One of the only top channels I know on KZbin that covers these topics in-depth, many respects to you Issac ✊✊✊

[@johnbrownlee5419]

Lets see, Shards of Honor, Freedom's Landing...

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

There's a lot of them :)

[@fatweeb1545]

Imagine coming over to check on an exile on a dead planet 1,000 years later and instead finding a thriving civilization.

[@alfadorfox]

Just got a chance to finish watching this; I'd been looking forward to it since I've had a lot of fun with games the likes of Subnautica and Satisfactory, wherein you're playing as someone dumped on an alien world with advanced 3d-printing and materials processing technology and a safely stupid AI, and you need to explore to source the materials to get yourself off the world (in Subnautica's case) or complete a project (in Satisfactory's case). Very interesting seeing how these other scenarios play out!

[@TheJoePiper]

Extremely Excellent broadcast ⚡️🤙

[@MU-oi1su]

When reading Who Goes There (The Thing), I liked the brief scene were they discover the alien was trying to mimic a small patch of its home in one of the utility buildings. That made it less of a monster and more of a being to me.

[@christophe5756]

Isaac, You're not going to make me sick of it, or even get me tired of it. -I shall not call it by name, "in the clear", because I don't want to start some groundswell in the comments section. Once again, Thank You, Thank You, and Thank You for the personal touches that you put into your shows. And many thanks to the SFIA Team!

[@UrdnotChuckles]

So many amusing references. And yeah, I wasn't the biggest fan of the end of Battlestar either.

[@vincewilson1]

I already have an audible account but they should be a good sponsor for your great works.

[@f1b0nacc1sequence7]

The old William Tenn story "Bernie the Faust" comes immediately to mind here...

[@1KosovoJeSrbija1]

ayo Turok was the fremen who died early on in dune, whose crysknife the duke saw, and then got confronted by stilgar about it

[@seanaugagnon6383]

No. He is referring to the video game. With dinosaurs...

[@sethapex9670]

Coconut milk is full of electrolytes, you could probably use it as a dielectric fluid in a bottle capacitor. And if you can get enough wire to make an inductor then you have an LC circuit that can be used to make a radio.

[@Procyon95]

I miss one important trope about cradhing on a planet. Someone crashes with his spaceship on a planet with sentient but primitive life.he pushes her scientific and cultural advancements and goes to sleep in his stasischamber for few decades before giving them the next key technology they need.all in the service to a greater purpose like escaping the planet.

[@Procyon95]

Does anyone know books about this trope? I know it from one graphic novel in the sillage series and one book in the fleet of worlds series by larry niven

[@vermasean]

Thanks for another awesome video!! Also, Happy Veterans’ Day Army!! ❤️🤍💙🇺🇸🫡

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

Hooah :)

[@domsau2]

18:09 The 2nd Newton's laws of motion is crying.

[@robertgraybeard3750]

at 6:11 ". . . or maybe you just dished up 32 flavors of buttkicking on the welcome party. R O F L Well said, very well said.

[@davidpowell7494]

The movie the Martian comes to mind when I watch this. They captured this perfectly

[@AnimeShinigami13]

All you had to do to get me to get the star trek reference was use the name Khan. XP Then I did a great big 'OH DUH!' Also my mom will like that you're doing an optimism for the future episode. The world is so insane right now that I sometimes wonder how badly we've fucked up the entire planet and don't know yet that its too late.

[@boobah5643]

Eh, the planet, even the biosphere will be fine. Less sanguine about human civilization.

[@r3dp9]

We're fine. Doom and gloom is a fad that humanity has encountered many times, along with nihilism, corruption, war, etc. When life is good, we make life hard on ourselves through laziness and selfishness. When life is hard, we make live easier on ourselves through hard work and sacrifice. It's all part of the cycle. Individual countries or even the entire world can be in one part of the cycle or another, but ultimately we all get to choose as individuals what part of the cycle we want to be at any given time.

[@starchcontrast4214]

I knew you were a highly cultured individual, but I was not expecting a My Favorite Martian reference today. Well played, sir.

[@crappycomputer77t1]

20:30 On how Athena would be received by her own people. If I was in charge of what happened to her I would reward her and garrison some reinforcements there if the planet held some value. An officer that skilled shouldn't be carelessly locked away. She proved beyond a doubt her abilities in leadership. And if she wanted to leave she could or if she wanted to stay and continue developing that world I think that would be optimal. Also considering this level of inadvertent interference the population would need to be assimilated or granted entry into the state or empire.

[@starclone4]

Oh, this is Great !!!!

[@jonhowells6271]

Two books well well worth a read on the subject of being stranded on an alien world. Open Prison by James White and Shipwreck by Charles Logan. The latter I strongly suggest you don't read alone. PS: Those that have read Shipwreck, how you holding up ?

[@DFX2KX]

The Turok referance (the only one of which I got instantly) gave me a real good laugh

[@Aginor88]

Interesting topic.

[@kairon156]

The last one about cloning a civilization from nearly nothing is very interesting.

[@kairon156]

@@sylvann7501 uplifting species from your other clones? or are you talking about the 2nd option with the little life forms?

[@Spondre]

Was it on this channel did I hear that you should run away from anything that can climb out of the crater it just made?

[@garrettord3304]

Wish I'd thought of this when I crashed

[@Twisted_Logic]

I wonder how Martin would get around the vampire problem of never seeming to age without drawing attention to himself. He'd probably need to fake his death and start from scratch every few decades.

[@douglasphillips5870]

He would need to adopt Bill Bixby as his nephew to help cover his tracks.

[@deano2160]

There is a great auido book called 'prison planet' thats on youtube thats well worth a listen.

[@hcoyhis]

Who's the author?

[@bertbaker7067]

Number 10!

[@nukl3argam3r38]

Cool vid

[@Skorpychan]

Obviously, the thing to do is to build an industrial base to launch a rocket to tell someone you're stranded, while fighting off the local life.

[@memk]

Ahh, typical Rimworld game: You start with nothing.

[@drmachinewerke1]

if you find yoursel or your crew stranded just build a pyramid

[@bravo_01]

@Fraser Cain brought me here . Nice channel!

[@johannageisel5390]

So, what if a very small alien astronaut crashes on a farm and is hunted by Earth chickens??? Oh, and it would be funny if there was a huge religious apparatus set to fullfil a certain task and when they finish it, it revives the frozen alien and she looks around and wonders how they could ever misinterprete her instructions so badly. "Where in my technical drawings did it say 'human sacrifice', hm???"

[@unmaskedandanonymous3660]

KILLAAAAAAA! great episode

[@hawkeyestegosaurus5680]

I found this by total accident, what a pleasant surprise

[@bagger35e]

I can fix that broken transmitter... as long as it dosen't require really exotic materials... oh wait

[@chimpychimp4921]

Re: Noonian Do you want Rimmerworld? Because that's how you get Rimmerworld.

[@shayne7300]

This got me thinking about a movie from 1985 called "enemy mine" for some reason...

[@bleach9tail]

Where can I buy those three books ?

[@phapnui]

You have a wonderful mind, thinking on many different levels. We need more people with such minds in government. "Take me to your leader."- we have no leader and won't have until a large percentage of people from all countries accept the concept that we are Terrans. That is the next logical step in the evolution of humans. Hunter-gatherers, villagers, cities, nation-states, nations, Terrans. From the first stage, our visions have increased beyond our personal space.

[@r3dp9]

Recognizing all of humanity as family is an important step, but having the pride to attempt to govern all of humanity is dangerous. I'm not particularly eloquent (at least in typing), but globalism is very dangerous as an ideal. We can't create free, noncorrupt global states until we first manage to create free, noncorrupt nation states. Last I checked, we have a lot of work to do in terms of individual cities, much less states.

[@Barnardrab]

The only reference I got was Turok. I've never played Turok on the original PlayStation, but I have heard of it when it came out.

[@jamesdrew1002]

Arrival here on Earth would probably end in said Alien living in a room constructed of steel reinforced concrete with no windows, surrounded by lots of barbed wire, and people with big guns and bigger hypodermics ;)

[@markwrede8878]

I know the feeling.

[@ThanksIfYourReadIt]

I was really curious about Turok lifespan. The situation he was in really suggested biological immortality, however the extent of maintenance he was refering too also suggested cyclers to go around and exchange supplies of its government aided supplies and crew maybe. Not to mention that such harsh sanction likelly to be overseen by several individual bodies to regulate no mental changes of the overseers, since even if biological immortality achived, psychology might not be a solved problem without severe augmentation. What Im getting at that in Turok's case a predictable check in system should have saved him after a while well within his avaiable lifespan, and as an overseer he should know multiple places where he can live without any contact of the local life. About Athene the end would be always that she has to chose to erredicate all evidence of her impact or not and if it matters at all or not even, in case her knowledge of the planet is doomed in X thousand years down the line anyways due to some interplanetary collision. In a warlike situation it might be common courtesy to fight over systems that everyone know was doomed regardless how big of a fireworks they pull off in there over any civilization that cannot be expected to reach techologies that can leave their own gravity well, but her presence can change that drasticly and that civilization might do some very predictable response after learning their world was counted disposable, also they can easilly unite knowing they are doomed and provide enough determination to just pull off self rescue mission with the clear message who to genocide first once they are in game. All this is plenty of reason for her to self detonate her powersupply and nuke out her tamperings on the locals. The last one really reminded me of a Hyper Sapien. Who is connected to lifeless matter as much as we are connected to "lifeless" electromagnetic "bath" called mobile net. And can manipulate self and sorrounding just how an infulencer can do the same in this "bath" to "no-lifers's" matter. Constructing an insect like creature from matter manipulation would be no different to him then for us to pick up a shovel from the shed. As its own boundless energy supply avaiable he only need but matter and time to do whatever he wants, down to turning the entire planet into his generational ship, where a generation is counted in eons. He is not stranded in this planet, the solar system is stranded in his vision.

[@The_pancake_under_the_pancake]

I LOVE YOU ARTHUR