Strange Blast Beat Technique Explained!

  Рет қаралды 476,570

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 578
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
► Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger - Drum School: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds A big thank you to all my KZbin viewers, subscribers, facebook likers and twitter followers! A couple of days ago my facebook page reached 1000 likes and my KZbin channel got 10 000 subscribers! For this special occasion I made a video about my personal history as a drummer featuring previously unreleased video material from my pre-KZbin era amongst many more things. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZK0mpqepZlgb7M #nechtan
@ericcartman9199
@ericcartman9199 7 жыл бұрын
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger should've said a big TANK you
@mawagahjuntos9140
@mawagahjuntos9140 7 жыл бұрын
First thanks a lot for this great video !!! How long does it take to be able to do this ? (not as fast though... ;) How many mn/hrs of daily practice? Thanks
@makaistanley6490
@makaistanley6490 3 жыл бұрын
@Dean Roy Instablaster :)
@deanroy1747
@deanroy1747 3 жыл бұрын
@Makai Stanley Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and im in the hacking process now. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@deanroy1747
@deanroy1747 3 жыл бұрын
@Makai Stanley it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D Thanks so much you saved my ass :D
@viciousbloodbath
@viciousbloodbath 9 жыл бұрын
This guy does not run out of ammo.
@iiiwwwooo4168
@iiiwwwooo4168 Жыл бұрын
He is pure machinegunner
@iiiwwwooo4168
@iiiwwwooo4168 Жыл бұрын
I want this guy to play in my band😊
@MrApocalisse
@MrApocalisse 9 жыл бұрын
that vehicle at the beginning is extremely over the top and really fucking metal \m/
@deftones3138
@deftones3138 9 жыл бұрын
+MrApocalisse like literally really metal
@flz02
@flz02 8 жыл бұрын
BRUTAL! lml lml lml
@Sir_Catnip
@Sir_Catnip 7 жыл бұрын
that spin in the chair at the beginning is one of the best intros I've ever seen....lmao
@justthink2827
@justthink2827 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@LilDeuceDeuce
@LilDeuceDeuce 6 жыл бұрын
05:20 FUCK YEAH BLAST BEAT THAT BOOK WOOOOOO
@takiyon
@takiyon 3 жыл бұрын
damn, only one like after two years lmao
@AidanMmusic96
@AidanMmusic96 3 жыл бұрын
1) LilDeuceDeuce is here, love it! 2) Even funnier than the book is Lords of Chaos.
@pawelmorrison
@pawelmorrison 8 жыл бұрын
When you want to learn a fill for a Led Zeppelin song and end up having to learn blast beats. Dammit Bonham...
@joaopedrorao31
@joaopedrorao31 6 жыл бұрын
Which led song?
@corpseplayground1949
@corpseplayground1949 5 жыл бұрын
joaopedrorao31 prolly dazed and confused
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA now THAT is funny.
@talktalktalktalktalk
@talktalktalktalktalk 9 жыл бұрын
It is not a complete waste of time if it keeps you from wanting to invade Poland.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
+talktalktalktalktalk That was actually the first good joke I read in the comment section! :-D
@OWitbroke
@OWitbroke 7 жыл бұрын
talktalktalktalktalk aww really
@TheAndrumming
@TheAndrumming 10 жыл бұрын
you're talking like a Sensei. This is an awesome technique. You're awesome
@ikarooz
@ikarooz 8 жыл бұрын
I've seen many vids concerning blast beat technique over the year and finally found yours. Great, straight forward instruction, without being condescending. My band will be very happy. Thank you!
@lord_skavenger
@lord_skavenger 5 жыл бұрын
Dude this is by far the best totorial on youtube. Thank you so much I'm actually getting better with practice!
@Heka41
@Heka41 7 жыл бұрын
that kit is shaking like a Mexican space shuttle
@temeadler
@temeadler 4 жыл бұрын
Hahha this cracked me up!!! Is it wrong? Bc I'm Mexican hahahha
@nineoneoh
@nineoneoh 4 жыл бұрын
haha shaking so much
@GraduatedIn
@GraduatedIn 4 жыл бұрын
Well duh. He’s on a storage container with flexible metal roofing
@rogger55
@rogger55 4 жыл бұрын
i'm mexican and i'm offended, we don't even have space shuttles.... hahaha
@davidmartinezbragado4598
@davidmartinezbragado4598 4 жыл бұрын
You do know you don't have to be an asshole to be funny, right?
@nicholasgrisa747
@nicholasgrisa747 8 жыл бұрын
Man you arrived on that armored truck, and then you played on a roof top explaining your own blast technique! Cool as fuck haha love it!
@Aaron_Gentry
@Aaron_Gentry 10 жыл бұрын
I have got to say, those drumsticks with the red tip look like giant matchsticks :D
@tdawg22345
@tdawg22345 9 жыл бұрын
Aaron Gentry Vic Firth American Classic Metal I think.
@sjang816
@sjang816 9 жыл бұрын
t-dawg i thought they were tommy lee signature series, like early 90s?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
nycjin816 Vic Firth American Classic Metal with nylon tips ;-)
@BrianHarrisDrummer
@BrianHarrisDrummer 9 жыл бұрын
I have been using same sticks since 1995. I can't imagine anything lighter or thinner. Doing blasts without that weight and diameter would be much harder for me.
@Thelastofadyingbreed
@Thelastofadyingbreed 9 жыл бұрын
+MorganvanHelsing The Metal N's yeah?
@butchcassidy3373
@butchcassidy3373 3 жыл бұрын
I tried this for the first time tonight. Doing pretty good with it for an old guy. Thanks for your time and effort. You keep posting tutorials, I'll keep watching.
@behindthen0thing
@behindthen0thing 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm
@ynzsbstn
@ynzsbstn 9 жыл бұрын
Man this is the sickest blast beat I've ever listened to, nice!
@halosakte1946
@halosakte1946 7 ай бұрын
Dude, thank you i've been learning this technique for 1 month and Wow it is insanely a million times better than the flying fingers technique. You're a great inspiration brother
@sccrash420
@sccrash420 8 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! Finally, a hybrid push-pull technique (by adding the wrists for power) that works for death metal. Thumbs up!
@black_platypus
@black_platypus 8 жыл бұрын
...and down... and up... and down Yeah, you got it ;P
@jannebirkelands3874
@jannebirkelands3874 7 жыл бұрын
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger Amazing tutorial. Y&ou are a natural born at teaching I believe! Very precise rhythm!!
@beh.r_co-mando.1374
@beh.r_co-mando.1374 7 жыл бұрын
Clicks on video, wanting to learn how to blast beat. *APC SHOWS UP*
@gorebubbleproductions4159
@gorebubbleproductions4159 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's the Lords of Chaos book he's blasting on. I recognize the color of the cover and the letters that say "lor.."
@systempsychovoid
@systempsychovoid Жыл бұрын
I saw this one on 2015 just for curiosity to learn a new technique, I use finger tradi technique but this one is really good i remember i just learned right-handed and slow, but I tried last days and I'm almost there! So i came to re-watch the whole channel to feed my technical with your knowledge.
@RTSFromHell
@RTSFromHell 8 жыл бұрын
Just realizing that this is possible just made my pants tighter
@guitar74man
@guitar74man 7 жыл бұрын
Not even a drummer but still found this interesting and informative
@ryaneaddy5436
@ryaneaddy5436 8 жыл бұрын
On your next video, you should start it off sitting on a tiger. And wonderful technique.
@waltergardner7168
@waltergardner7168 7 жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE STICK CONTROL !
@Tenshin66
@Tenshin66 9 жыл бұрын
You don't hear Germans with this accent much anymore. It's a cool accent
@black_platypus
@black_platypus 8 жыл бұрын
I used to hate hearing my fellow countrymen's accents, but Werner Herzog absolutely changed my mind about that, showing me that it can sound really beautiful at times, especially when it's a cool person with the vocabulary to support it :)
@uranuss
@uranuss 3 жыл бұрын
I started watching Wanja ever since this series of push-pull technique and the match-stick drum stick. of course, the rover at the beginning of the video is also essential.
@lediabolique5822
@lediabolique5822 9 жыл бұрын
One of the best instructional videos I've ever seen. Thank you Morgan.
@averyellis
@averyellis Жыл бұрын
I am not really even a big fan of this kind of music, but that tutorial was supreme.
@seconddrum4339
@seconddrum4339 9 жыл бұрын
One of The best drum Tutorials in youtube!!! Thx
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, here comes the Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger - Drum School with more than 1000 videos, lexicon, forum, personal support and much more! More info: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds Thank you all for your support! #nechtan #nechtandrumschool #wanjagroeger
@MrBrfreeman
@MrBrfreeman 4 жыл бұрын
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger is there a name to this technique?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrBrfreeman push-pull technique!
@maverick315
@maverick315 4 жыл бұрын
Вань, ты как у немцев оказался?)
@titobalkani8240
@titobalkani8240 5 жыл бұрын
Your skills are amazing man. I've honestly never seen anything like it. I'm inspired, thanks for this vids they are helping through a really hard time in my life.🤘
@FlamingSteed
@FlamingSteed 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this vid again now after a few years and it really helped me to stop drumming like an old man with parkinsons and arthritis. Now my hands/wrists/fingers are more fluid.
@mattmoves5920
@mattmoves5920 8 жыл бұрын
Cool, but can you play Smoke on the water?
@henryspeer4900
@henryspeer4900 7 жыл бұрын
Matt Moves I doubt it
@frumpadumpf5173
@frumpadumpf5173 9 жыл бұрын
Lol it kinda sounds like a diesel engine idling haha
@mikuspalmis
@mikuspalmis 8 жыл бұрын
Ian Jim Lol good god
@theSnaredrumde
@theSnaredrumde 8 жыл бұрын
Man kann süchtig werden. Extrem eigenständiger Sound. Außergewöhnlich!
@MrLaughs4you
@MrLaughs4you 8 жыл бұрын
i don't play drums, but if i could do this i would be happy
@mikuspalmis
@mikuspalmis 8 жыл бұрын
I learned this technique about ten years ago, but this is an impressive application you have demonstrated here.
@rocketqueen7355
@rocketqueen7355 3 жыл бұрын
German grip 🔥🔥🔥 This is so far the best explanation how to stroke (Pushing stick with your finger towards the head)
@michaelhanelt7692
@michaelhanelt7692 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Wanja! Ich bin Schlagzeug-Neuling und ein etwas älteres Semester. Ich tue mich noch wahnsinnig schwer mit sämtlichen Techniken. Danke für deine ausführlichen Erklärungen. Sollte ich deine Double strokes jemals hinbekommen gebe ich ne Kiste Bier aus.
@Beholder505
@Beholder505 9 жыл бұрын
Is that a copy of Lords of Chaos he's banging on?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is.
@hazardeur
@hazardeur 3 жыл бұрын
it's a necessary ingredient
@garibaldi547
@garibaldi547 7 жыл бұрын
Very good pedagogic video about "open-close". it helped me a lot( and i'm not a metal drummer) Thank you.
@calypso1145
@calypso1145 5 жыл бұрын
Bye bye flying finger technique... Good video... Superb control and amazing speed... Btw... nice ride😎😎
@iLostmyrealname
@iLostmyrealname 7 жыл бұрын
I've been using the "Moeller" technique for years and thought this was just an augmented version. I was very wrong, thank you for this man. Also nice APC. \m/
@Jake_IBS
@Jake_IBS 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man, from the tank to the 2nd story playing and great technique
@Bnat36
@Bnat36 5 жыл бұрын
I started working on this technique yesterday and i can do it slow/mid tempo. its going to take some time before I can use it on the kit but it will be worth it because I love it!
@ohreallynao8030
@ohreallynao8030 9 жыл бұрын
what a machine.. thats incredible dude. ive always struggled with blasting. id have a completely different arsenal of drumming if i could manage to get it down. seeing you just reminds me how far away i am.
@VictorSch08
@VictorSch08 4 жыл бұрын
Best blast beat and drum tutorial I've seen so far :D
@fotismavroudakis7779
@fotismavroudakis7779 8 жыл бұрын
Dude your playing sounds like a chopper's engine is starting. Amazing video tutorial, and a sick blastbeat skill for sure, Great job!
@gaargy1
@gaargy1 8 жыл бұрын
that was insanely fast and powerful.
@crazybutcool5150
@crazybutcool5150 8 жыл бұрын
I need to get one of those iron containers to play on top of as well. Awesome!!
@shadow12348
@shadow12348 9 жыл бұрын
This is genius! Awesome technique man!
@BCBenny
@BCBenny 7 жыл бұрын
dude you got some killer speed awesome!!
@fabiofsumi
@fabiofsumi 9 жыл бұрын
Danke für das Tutorium, sehr saubere Technik, die du da spielst, auch mit den Füßen! Ist diese Rollbewegung mit dem Daumen, auf die du hinweist und die auch in den Blastbeats zu sehen ist, wichtig oder funktioniert es auch ohne? Es fühlt sich sehr komisch an und ich habe das Gefühl, dass der Daumen sehr schnell davon brennt. Wie ist das bei dir?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
TozSanchez Es würde auch, ohne den Daumen zu bewegen, funktionieren, aber ab einer gewissen Geschwindigkeit wird es dann fast unmöglich, die Anschläge mit gleichmäßiger Lautstärke zu machen. Und für double strokes ist der Daumen da auch sehr wichtig. Für mich selbst hat sich das alles auch anfänglich extrem seltsam angefühlt und auch jetzt noch verkrampft sich gerade mein linker Daumen manchmal, wenn ich mit zu wenig Aufwärmung längere Blast Beat Passagen spiele. Alles eine Frage der Gewöhnung ;) Wie ich auch im Tutorial erwähnt habe, ist es wichtig, dass man versucht, sich dabei zu entspannen, dann brennt der Daumen auch nicht so schnell.
@Mustis1524
@Mustis1524 10 жыл бұрын
This is some absolutely awesome information that you're sharing with us right here! I can't thank you enough, I must try this out. I consider by blasts to be pretty strong as they are right now but I can definitely see the potential in this and the same goes for your amazing foot technique. I've been using the John Longstreth double stroke style for a while and have gotten in to a pretty solid level at high speeds but there are problems with that technique. Mainly power and having to rely on a tight pedal aswell as on a tight bass drum skin which really destroys the natural bass drum sound if you wouldn't trigger it. With your technique, it seems like you're able to get much more power out of it without being as physically demanding as some other techniques I guess, at the same time as you don't seem to have to rely on a tight skin. I will definitely try these things out and work on them from here on. Btw when is the next video about the fills coming out? :)
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 10 жыл бұрын
Next video is in progress! Btw. I also tried using double strokes with my feet but the main issue was that doubles just dont sound as even and as kick ass as single strokes... And in the beginning I also had problems with my single strokes when the bass drum skin was not tight but I fixed that with a very simple method: I just started practising with a low tuned bass drum skin - of course it was uncomfortable in the beginning but after a while I was as fast and powerful as I had been on a tight skin before. I also do the same thing with snare and toms - I always practise on a badly and low tuned drumkit in order to be able to play on any kit in a live situation and that has improved my reliability and performance a lot!
@Mustis1524
@Mustis1524 10 жыл бұрын
MorganvanHelsing Thanks a lot for you answer! Yeah, tuning your drums low is extremely good for practicing. I used to always tune my drums perfectly for the maximum comfort, ease and rebound but that meant that I pretty much was screwed live or at a recording session where my kit wasn't set up exactly the same. Consistency is an underrated thing to practice that I find to be extremely important and tuning your drums low and moving around toms and cymbals a bit can really make you ready for anything and I find that I don't need to come up with such bad excuses all the time about why I'm not able to play as well. Being able to avoid feeling forced to say things like "I can play this a lot better at home" or "my drums are set-up totally different at home so I'm probably gonna suck" and things like that is amazing. It makes drumming live and on different sets much more enjoyable. Btw, have you gotten over 250 bpm with your foot technique since your explanation video? :)
@Mustis1524
@Mustis1524 10 жыл бұрын
MorganvanHelsing Wow I just realized how difficult it is to move from double strokes to singles while essentially using the same technique :/ So hard to get away from something you're so used to. Did you have troubles with this at the beginning when changing to this technique and if you did, do you have any recommendations on how I should go about to not being blocked by what I've previously been doing? And did you feel like it was easier in the beginning to start with looser spring tension? I use the demon drives as well and I've always used max spring tension (even higher than max by removing the little black circular plastic bit at the bottom of the spring and then tightening the spring all the way until it touches the metal part beneath.) but now it feels like it's hindering the execution of the technique. I actually tried setting up my old eliminators and I felt like the basic motion at slower tempos was easier to do but I guess that it will become more difficult on that pedal when I'm able to get it up to higher tempos. Should I perhaps move back to my demon drive when it feels like my eliminators are hindering my progress or should I just stop bitching and use my demon drives from the beginning? ;)
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 10 жыл бұрын
Mustis1524 What you said about consistency and about not feeling forced to make excuses is absolutely true! As long as I played drums just for myself in the basement it wasn't an issue but as soon as I got in bands that would play live it suddenly became very important. Consistency and reliability are more important for a band than being able to play very fast - nobody wants a fast drummer who cannot pull his stuff off in a live situation!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 10 жыл бұрын
Mustis1524 And concerning the foot technique: Before I started with that technique I used to simply play heel down and I sucked at double bass drumming. So there was not so much that I was used to that I had to overcome (btw I started experimenting with double strokes much later when I was already quite good with singles). But I had great problems changing from playing from my wrist to my current blasting technique and from my experience with that I can only recommand to be very patient with yourself, to start practising everything in slow motion and to practise a lot. And yes - in the beginning it definetly helps to play with looser spring tension AND with a good beater distance - it is very uncomfortable to use this technique when the beaters are too close to the bass drum skin. I started with low tension and beaters far from the skin so that the pedal would comfortably swing at around 170bpm. From that on I gradually increased the tension and put the beaters a bit closer to the skin. If you want to know the exact settings that I use now, read the description of my double bass tutorial. But I think it would be a good idea to start with your old Eliminators and when you feel that you have good control you can move to the next level and use the Demon Drives ;-)
@whileistaysecluded
@whileistaysecluded 7 жыл бұрын
when you play Fast your drum kit twerks. You are really good man very inspiring
@viemarimyyra
@viemarimyyra 8 жыл бұрын
Psstt... Have you ever heard of Dave Weckl's hand technique? He kinda figured that out years ago. Good that you shared it. It's a nice little thing.
@yourmotherandthesandpeople2298
@yourmotherandthesandpeople2298 8 жыл бұрын
that's cool but can you do this?
@viemarimyyra
@viemarimyyra 8 жыл бұрын
Yes to be honest, though not at that tempo. Slow tempo is my stuff. Did I insult you at some point? I thought I thanked him for sharing this technique.
@thomasmarchon50
@thomasmarchon50 8 жыл бұрын
+Viemärimyyrä he didn't insult you either...
@BluntAnims
@BluntAnims 9 жыл бұрын
Crazy technique!!! You make it look so easy I want to learn, I'm too used to blasting traditionally though, but this would make me faster if I get the hang of it.
@Kalbsgrinder
@Kalbsgrinder 6 жыл бұрын
Die 2. Technik mit dem Daumen gefällt mir echt gut... Cooles Video! Werde mich demnächst mal dransetzen und üben. \m/ Du hast mich wieder zum Schlagzeugspielen motiviert. :D
@BeatsAndMeats
@BeatsAndMeats 7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how your thumb is moving. Do you think you could explain it another way or make a very short video demonstrating the thumb? I love all your videos by the way!
@AumBaba420
@AumBaba420 9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, this technique may have a lack of power imo but it's definitly interesting in view to add this way of blast beat to others, it seems very thrifty in energy and it's also pleasant to watch =) good job!
@BunditChoeiprasertToon
@BunditChoeiprasertToon 10 жыл бұрын
OMG !!! Thank for this technique. I love it
@Ouski
@Ouski 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. This is totally awesome. The fills that you can do with this sound amazing.
@sprudelgolem
@sprudelgolem 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome drumming! Alvis Sarazen at the start, right?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
You`re right!
@Eagles.Fan.Since.Super.Bowl.52
@Eagles.Fan.Since.Super.Bowl.52 9 жыл бұрын
Pure Genius!
@peterhughes614
@peterhughes614 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this incredible technique with us. Cheers!
@dROcITYkING11
@dROcITYkING11 6 жыл бұрын
wow the intro, most metal thing ive ever seen
@ninort666
@ninort666 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude! Hails from switzerland!
4 жыл бұрын
That was HILARIOUS !!!
@dual322
@dual322 9 жыл бұрын
Great video, ive been playing for 10+ years and this helped me. :)
@etilcareh
@etilcareh 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome...
@bestiaonthedrums
@bestiaonthedrums 8 жыл бұрын
jo jo mayer techniques applied on extreme metal... very good!!!
@leonardoalbertojimenezpere2828
@leonardoalbertojimenezpere2828 7 жыл бұрын
Excelente arribo amigo.
@alvaropedreros392
@alvaropedreros392 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice work! I'll put on practice what you have taught! thanks a lot!
@EILEISKA
@EILEISKA 10 жыл бұрын
Now this is totally something I've never seen before. It looks just fucked up but still works and it really makes sense, awesome!
@wayneman6199
@wayneman6199 8 жыл бұрын
This is madness!!!! Awesome!!!
@gnusmas1914
@gnusmas1914 8 жыл бұрын
now thats a blast
@MrAlienautopsy
@MrAlienautopsy 8 жыл бұрын
but does it djent?
@thebassmath
@thebassmath 9 жыл бұрын
This is quite similar to the Meoller technique. I may have spelled it wrong, but check it out. Fine video, sir. Blast away.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
+Mr. Aguilar Thanks! I think the Moeller technique is quite different since it is mostly based on wrist motion. Apart from that it is probably not possible (and also not wanted) to play the up and down Moeller strokes with the same volume.
@galaxie666
@galaxie666 9 жыл бұрын
echt grandios, wie geil. das werd ich direkt am anfangen zu üben ;)
@daltonlawrence4750
@daltonlawrence4750 8 жыл бұрын
Gotta d the one footed blasts at the slower tempos, sounds way smoother. Just an opinion really. Great playing and technique bro
@Vesaniah4
@Vesaniah4 8 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up in rememberance of the fallen 8''
@TheGreatWent2112
@TheGreatWent2112 8 жыл бұрын
what is the purpose of the thumb pushing down in the first stroke? using wrist seems like it would negate any of its use.
@crusshed123
@crusshed123 8 жыл бұрын
I ask the same question myself. I find it difficult integrating my thumb.
@TheGreatWent2112
@TheGreatWent2112 8 жыл бұрын
I finally figured it out by pushing my thumb more out and to the side a bit, and letting my fingers bring it back up with the stick instead of pulling it back. But now i'm have rebound problems with higher speeds.
@graysonjd5624
@graysonjd5624 6 жыл бұрын
I love that your pad is on Lords of Chaos.
@holi771
@holi771 9 жыл бұрын
great blasting btw!
@crashsystem
@crashsystem 8 жыл бұрын
Bestes Video, was ich bisher zu Push/Pull auf ganz youtube gesehen hab! Leider hat es für mein begrenztes Verständnis nicht gereicht und ich sitz immer noch mit Fragezeichen vorm Übungspad :D Trotzdem, keep up the good work!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
Danke! Das ging mir anfangs nicht anders - die Bewegung ist einfach sehr ungewohnt und es dauert eine Weile, bis man anfängt, sich an das Gefühl der Bewegung zu gewöhnen. ;)
@crashsystem
@crashsystem 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, hätte nicht gedacht, dass du darauf antwortest! Schau mir gerade zum wiederholten Male dein Video an, doch so ganz.. Ich halte den Stick mit meinen Daumen und dem Zeigefinger, ganz locker wie du sagst, umschließe die andern Finger und öffne sie, der Stick fällt auf das Pad. Doch wie erzeuge ich dann den 2. Schlag, wenn sich die Finger wieder schließen? Bei dir scheint es, als käme er automatisch wieder nach oben, bei mir klatscht der auf und das wars :D Beim ersten drückt der Daumen den Stick nach unten, doch wie kommt er wieder hoch? Hinzu kommt, dass alles auf diesem Real Feel Pad einen fast unnatürlichen rebound hat.. Du wirst auch denken, der hat sie nicht alle.. und dabei erklärst du alles schon verdammt gut!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
Wie der Stick wieder hoch kommt ist eine gute Frage - so genau habe ich noch gar nicht darüber nachgedacht :D Also zum einen hilft einem da der Rebound. Aber auch komplett ohne den funktioniert es und das hauptsächlich durch den Daumen, der sich komplett durchstreckt und dadurch zum Ende der Bewegung den Stick wieder hochdrückt. Wenn ich die Bewegung ausführe, kann ich das ganze auch mit dem Stick oder einem Stift oder sonst was in der Luft machen, ohne auf eine Oberfläche schlagen zu müssen - und vielleicht kannst du das einmal versuchen, um zu verstehen, wie das funktioniert!
@crashsystem
@crashsystem 8 жыл бұрын
Selbst in der Luft.. ich verstehe was du zeigst, aber ich kanns nicht anwenden. Wie ein Zaubertrick, den man in ner Show gesehen hat und zuhause nachmachen will und scheitert. Mein Daumen spielt nicht mit. Als Grobmotiriker kapituliere ich vor dieser Technik. Danke für die Mühe!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
Sehr interessantes Video! Ist durch den link glatt im Spam Ordner verschwunden und habe es gerade durch Zufall gesehen :D Also ich sehe nun sehr deutlich, wo das Problem liegt, aber ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob ich es dir richtig erklären kann. Die Sache ist die, dass du mit Daumen und Zeigefinger beim ersten Schlag schon das machst, was eigentlich erst beim zweiten kommen sollte. Du ziehst in deinem video den Zeigefinger zum Daumen heran und dadurch kommt dein erster Schlag zustande, aber dadurch ist dein Stick dann schon an der Hand dran und die restlichen Finger hängen sinnlos in der Luft. Die Lösung: Dein zeigefinger muss sich mit den anderen Fingern ebenso öffnen (nicht gaaanz so weit durchgestreckt, aber fast). Du hälst mit dem zeigefinger nicht gegen den Druck des Daumens gegen, sondern lässt ihn der Bewegung folgen. Stell dir vor, du würdest den Stick quasi loslassen, fallen lassen, ihn geradezu wegwerfen beim ersten Schlag! Versuch es mal so: Nimm den Stick fest in die hand (also mit der richtigen haltung wie im Tutorial beschrieben), ziehe den Daumen zusätzlich ein wenig an, so dass er gekrümmt ist und mit der Daumenspitze auf den Stick drückt und dann STRECKST du ALLE Finger gleichzeitig und zwar die oberen Finger so, dass sie in gestrecktem zustand im (ca.) 90 Grad Winkel vom Handrücken nach unten weisen und der Daumen sich ungefähr parallel zu dem Zeigefinger befindet. Macht nichts, wenn dir der Stick dabei erstmal aus der Hand fällt, aber das ist dann ziemlich genau die Haltung, die du am Ende des ersten Schlages haben solltest (in etwas übertrieben) und DANN kannst du die Finger schließen für den zweiten Schlag. So, ich hoffe, es ist halbwegs verständlich!
@Akiachrounoumena
@Akiachrounoumena 8 жыл бұрын
phenomenal.
@gb9884
@gb9884 4 жыл бұрын
I just noticed you are using the lords of chaos book as a drum pad haha. Should do an updated video with the movie version
@sarah__heneghan
@sarah__heneghan 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Your technique seems identical to the Moeller Pump. Is it the same thing?
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 10 жыл бұрын
OK. Just saw the vid and realized it's not your tank. I feel better. :-) Very cool technique. Thank you for sharing!!
@critnasty5570
@critnasty5570 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Definitely the worlds best drummer
@Ratanaz696
@Ratanaz696 9 жыл бұрын
Excelente!!! Eres un maestro!!! Saludos desde Perú!!!! lml
@damianneve
@damianneve 2 жыл бұрын
This is the answer to the question I asked you on ig! I figured out my own version of this last year. similar with open close with the stick spinning but without the thumb I just drop it like a lazy fk lol I was a guitar major in college so it was good enough for me 😆 thx for the tip!
@elguaripolo686
@elguaripolo686 6 жыл бұрын
WANJAAAA I LOVE YOU SO MUCH THANKS DUDE, GREETINGS lml
@claudiobirnbaum3943
@claudiobirnbaum3943 2 жыл бұрын
Great job
@CokeDrums
@CokeDrums 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice, it reminds me Jojo Mayer technique. But there's something only yours about the rotation of the stick. what about the foot technique? Can you play so fast too?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
Jorge Pérez With my feet I am not THAT fast... 240-250bpm. Watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn_KkGyYbat1nqM
@r4v3nboy
@r4v3nboy 2 жыл бұрын
New to drums, found your vid I must admit 260 sound like washmashine with some serious issue when there is no guitar and bass :D love content
@Michael-uw3lk
@Michael-uw3lk 9 жыл бұрын
You're a wicked good drummer, man! Thanks for the vid
@josanro
@josanro 9 жыл бұрын
This is just amazing!
@Anaximander29A
@Anaximander29A 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, the first 15seconds are exactly my kind of humor. Helge Schneider intensifies. ;)))
Strange Double Bass Foot Technique explained!
8:02
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger
Рет қаралды 1,8 МЛН
Strange Double Bass Foot Technique explained NEW!
12:34
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger
Рет қаралды 109 М.
coco在求救? #小丑 #天使 #shorts
00:29
好人小丑
Рет қаралды 51 МЛН
Чистка воды совком от денег
00:32
FD Vasya
Рет қаралды 3,9 МЛН
Why no RONALDO?! 🤔⚽️
00:28
Celine Dept
Рет қаралды 93 МЛН
How To Start Playing Blast Beats!
15:06
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger
Рет қаралды 312 М.
4 Advanced Blast Beats
12:37
66Samus
Рет қаралды 410 М.
Insane Double Stroke Fills Explained!!!
7:06
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger
Рет қаралды 1,6 МЛН
The IMPOSSIBLE Drumming Of Gojira
15:33
Drum Beats Online
Рет қаралды 159 М.
The "Dirk Blast" by Dirk Verbeuren
3:27
Dirk Verbeuren
Рет қаралды 440 М.
How To Start Playing Double Bass!
9:10
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger
Рет қаралды 49 М.
LE BLAST BEAT - Pédagogie de l'extrême.
18:24
french grip channel
Рет қаралды 13 М.
French grip + blast beat technique tutorial for drummers
4:36
FerretPercussion
Рет қаралды 53 М.
1 Guitar Riff, 10 Drum Beats
6:59
66Samus
Рет қаралды 977 М.
coco在求救? #小丑 #天使 #shorts
00:29
好人小丑
Рет қаралды 51 МЛН