Strange Double Bass Foot Technique explained!

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Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger

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@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, here comes the Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger - Drum School with more than 1000 videos + lexicon + forum + personal support and much more! More info: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds NEW Version of this tutorial: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3eyintvp72reqc Thank you all for your support! #nechtan #nechtandrumschool #wanjagroeger
@Loitsu
@Loitsu 4 жыл бұрын
Wanja, I'm using my pedals against my bed but they start moving elsewhere what should I use as a pedal surface?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын
@@Loitsu Be creative - if a normal bass drum pad is too loud, maybe try to tape them to the floor or something. Carpet and heavy books might also help keeping them in place.
@stevehunt914
@stevehunt914 10 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for ignoring the temptation to show off and instead focusing on actually HELPING people. - I'm a newbie and i'm obsessed with being able to double-kick so fast that it sounds like i'm dropping a bucket full of marbles. - ALL of the guys i admire insist on playing cleanly first, so that's what i'm trying to do. - I've been scouring youtube looking for help and your video is exactly what i wanted. - Thanks again man, i really appreciate the time and energy you took to make this video.
@stevehunt914
@stevehunt914 9 жыл бұрын
***** thanks for caring lol My progress is very slow, but thats intentional. I decided to take things VERY slowly by swapping which side i lead with. - I want to be able to lead with ANY limb, so of course its taking much longer than it would otherwise. - Progress is slow,.. but inspiring enough to keep working for. \m/
@zash008
@zash008 9 жыл бұрын
I've been drumming since about 1980 I play double bass licks here and there but have never developed my double bass licks to point like this....as long as I've been around drums and playing this is the one video you should pay attention to first. Master this technique before any others I suggest. I will work on it too. This technique definitely shows how it can be done without being taxing on energy or cause you to start tensing up which slows you down. This is the most effortless technique explained well and using the least amount of energy for the best results are key. Just dont get in the double bass rut and forget the MAIN GOAL is to make the song sound its best and many times it takes playing simple... I hear so many drummers play too much fancy licks than what the song would require and it takes away from it too often. cheers.
@Max-el7zd
@Max-el7zd 4 жыл бұрын
@Steve Hunt how is your drumming now?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 10 жыл бұрын
My channel just reached the mark of 2000 subscribers! Thank you all!
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 9 жыл бұрын
So you play the toe stroke first then the heel stroke?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
Larry Tate I would say I play the heel-up-stroke first and then the heel-down-stroke.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
+MorganvanHelsing 5000 subscribers! Thank you all!
@DrKFC69
@DrKFC69 8 жыл бұрын
+MorganvanHelsing how long did it take you to learn this technique?
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 8 жыл бұрын
Was the demon drive difficult to get used to? Also can u get as much power for rock from it as needed? I'm considering getting it. Thanks.
@Ouski
@Ouski 9 жыл бұрын
I set up a drum pedal below my computer desk just to practice this while I'm browsing the web or even playing games. The best part is, it's starting to work.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
Thats a really nice idea!
@neardaaaRk
@neardaaaRk 9 жыл бұрын
i've been doin this for 10 years :D even without pedals... i practised a lot of songs on the floor and my ham during travelin or playin games :D
@benoitlambert100
@benoitlambert100 7 жыл бұрын
I bet it does
@Zen_Wulf
@Zen_Wulf 7 жыл бұрын
clever idea!
@ayanahmed202
@ayanahmed202 6 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea but unfortunately I can't do that because of the structure of my desk (I can't fit a double bass pedal under there!). I find that air drumming helps out quite a bit, even if the song is too fast.
@silasbaird
@silasbaird Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this when I was in high school. I'm glad I found it again 8 years later.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger Жыл бұрын
Thanks, now I feel really old :D
@imacashew.
@imacashew. 8 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. This is why I will never stop playing this instrument. There is just so much to learn and master. Well done sir! 🤘🏻
@m.iqbal_akbar
@m.iqbal_akbar 4 жыл бұрын
yeah right.... so much to do with drumming that i (we ) cant quit
@LucasAndrade-jo4se
@LucasAndrade-jo4se 8 жыл бұрын
Sounds really powerfull and economic motion-wise! Great technique. As a guitar player I would say that this is the "alternate picking" drum equivalent. Great job. Greetings from Brazil! \,,/
@jocrpnter
@jocrpnter 8 жыл бұрын
I got a cramp just watching
@AyedYoutube
@AyedYoutube 8 жыл бұрын
Same
@premangshudas5811
@premangshudas5811 8 жыл бұрын
jocrpnter
@premangshudas5811
@premangshudas5811 8 жыл бұрын
jocrpnter de sale SX ZX ZX err GT g
@TheStudioDrummer
@TheStudioDrummer 7 жыл бұрын
that made me laugh
@drummonkeystuffuk1875
@drummonkeystuffuk1875 5 жыл бұрын
You find with this technique you have a lot more stamina and can play longer at higher speeds....when you get the balance between the feet correct :)
@drumtwo4seven
@drumtwo4seven 9 жыл бұрын
I cant say how long exactly but for around the past year Ive been working on this technique - thanks to this video I am now able to (starting to be able) play dbl bass 16ths consistently and for "extended" periods of time between the tempo's 180 to 200bpm BEFORE working on this technique I could only play UP TO 180bpm using singles (alternating RLRL) - NOW I am able to play comfortably at 180 no stress or tension at all and up to about 200 BPM. This is a significant increase in speed for me, and best of all it is solid and consistent and much less effort than playing RLRL at slower tempos Thank you for this awesome video
@claysmell
@claysmell 5 жыл бұрын
This is still my favorite Wanja video. I can watch this a million times and it won't get old. The start of it all.
@korpiroju2751
@korpiroju2751 11 жыл бұрын
Started playing drums 1982...had some pause while raising family... have played again for few years now...I need to confess - there was a time before this video and after this video...my world is not the same anymore... I cannot believe the easiness (or look of it) of the footwork. I will not rest until I got it too. Thank you very much for this video!!
@Killer0fToast
@Killer0fToast 10 жыл бұрын
lars Ulrich needs this.
@ericmuldoon5418
@ericmuldoon5418 10 жыл бұрын
I need this!
@Killer0fToast
@Killer0fToast 10 жыл бұрын
every drummer needs this
@ericmuldoon5418
@ericmuldoon5418 10 жыл бұрын
OdairuPokedYou His technique is so smooth, I need to get the lead out of my feet!
@zbim3926
@zbim3926 9 жыл бұрын
OdairuPokedYou Lol, so true ^^
@metal4ever339
@metal4ever339 9 жыл бұрын
+OdairuPokedYou lol he needs to quit, he already got all the chances he could get!
@InsomniakDrums
@InsomniakDrums 10 жыл бұрын
it's essentially just heel-toe technique, but keeping your foot grounded on the pedal the whole time, and instead of "diddles" it's alternating. (essentially mohler for your feet)
@LigmaMale69
@LigmaMale69 10 жыл бұрын
well you could call it heel-heel-toe-toe technique haha
@InsomniakDrums
@InsomniakDrums 10 жыл бұрын
Haha that's true! :P
@jacoblfka8323
@jacoblfka8323 10 жыл бұрын
true
@Mazut0
@Mazut0 10 жыл бұрын
Funny fact is that I thought that this was the standard heel toe so I used it, now I see it's not the standard heel toe lol.
@LigmaMale69
@LigmaMale69 10 жыл бұрын
thekazuya005 I also thought that too, but I haven't been able to get it down. I'm more used to doing it like he does rather than the traditional heel toe though.
@crazybadcuber
@crazybadcuber 9 жыл бұрын
wow that is a great technique!
@JesusOfSuburbia021
@JesusOfSuburbia021 9 жыл бұрын
+CrazyBadCuber You play drums?!?! If you do why don't you do some covers? :D I am subscribed to your channel for year and a half, and i have to say you done a great job! Keep it up :)
@crazybadcuber
@crazybadcuber 9 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks, I don't play covers because it takes time away from playing my own stuff.
@jonathanmellqvist2
@jonathanmellqvist2 9 жыл бұрын
+CrazyBadCuber Hey Dan what are you doing here?? :D
@georgeorigami
@georgeorigami 9 жыл бұрын
+CrazyBadCuber to what u doin here man I love ur vids btw
@badrandom3rd
@badrandom3rd 8 жыл бұрын
+CrazyBadCuber same here
@StopPanakinAnakin
@StopPanakinAnakin 10 жыл бұрын
I dont know why... but when Im sitting down with my headphones on and i air drum.. my feet do this perfectly and on time... Go to my kit... nothing. haha
@matthewhutson9581
@matthewhutson9581 10 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same problem. I was actually doing this before without knowing it was a technique. Yet, when i go to my pedals, they dont respond the same so i could never transfer it. At least I'm not the only one.
@StopPanakinAnakin
@StopPanakinAnakin 10 жыл бұрын
Maybe getting longboards will help?? I kind of want to order some
@matthewhutson9581
@matthewhutson9581 10 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I've been looking into buying direct drive over the double chain I have now. Ive noticed my slave pedal lags which doesn't help. But in the video, he's using both double chain and direct. So I still think its just me lol
@StopPanakinAnakin
@StopPanakinAnakin 10 жыл бұрын
I've got Tama speed cobras right now and they are incredible... if you aren't trying intense heel-toe techniques. haha My old pedal is a dixon double bass... left foot lags SO hard... ugh........ I know the feels dude.
@matthewhutson9581
@matthewhutson9581 10 жыл бұрын
Psht. I've got some Gibraltar double chains. I might as well have a Dixon lol. I've tried every adjustment including adding weighted beaters, no difference so I know I gotta upgrade. I'm looking at mapex's direct drive pedal. To be honest it felt like the pearl speed demons and even the axis longboards. Only I can get them BELOW $300 at music and arts. So that's gonna be my next buy.
@RafikMankariosDrumStudio
@RafikMankariosDrumStudio 9 жыл бұрын
Clear. To the point. Precise. Blindingly fast and powerful bass drumming! The 76 swethearts that dislike this were looking for what exactly? !
@XCannonDrumsX
@XCannonDrumsX 8 жыл бұрын
This video has opened my eyes and taught me so much. Saw this at first a few years ago and never believed I could even begin to learn this and now after revisiting, I am well on my way to making it my go-to kick technique. Thanks so much, my friend.
@RazeTheWeak
@RazeTheWeak 4 жыл бұрын
Dude! Something crazy happened to me tonight. I accidentally learned your technique. I have been working through Marthyn’s bass drum mastery course over the last few weeks. Been doing well with ankle technique and foot foot technique. When I have extra time and motivation I play around with rudiments and other exercises with my feet. Was doing a build up going back-and-forth between quarter notes and eighth notes and somehow started catching the rebound of the pedal. I froze for a second because it shocked me. It wasn’t the heel toe movement that I have worked on in the past. It felt even more effortless and each stroke was just as powerful as the next. They were also evenly spaced eighth notes and not doubles. Once I understood the sensation and motion it took me about 10 minutes to be able to play flams and unison 8th notes using the constant release technique. I am under the impression that not a lot of guys ever learn how to master this movement. It was like a lightbulb coming on when it happened. When I was a kid I used to play around with heel toe with my feet on the floor. I would always go right heel, left heel, right toe, then left toe. Somehow it seems like I am almost destined to learn how to master this technique and coordinate it into a smooth single stroke roll. I will be searching through your videos to try to find out exercises to help me turn this into one continuous single stroke roll because I feel like I already have the hardest part out-of-the-way learning the new technique, and I don’t think that there is any other technique that will allow you to play as fast with such a little tension and energy expenditure. Wish me luck!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that sounds awesome! Good luck! Here are some exercises that I can really recommand you to learn and use and that are very useful for getting the coordination between your limbs down: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYKYn3V5oa5gadE&t=
@williamdawson4023
@williamdawson4023 8 жыл бұрын
I drank 20 cans of red bull and this happened
@777Dells
@777Dells 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahahhaaaaaaaa....
@yucatansuckaman5726
@yucatansuckaman5726 5 жыл бұрын
Just save yourself the bathroom breaks and get some coke. JUST KIDDING KIDS YOU DONT NEED DRUGS TO ROCK
@jyvlii1828
@jyvlii1828 4 жыл бұрын
"The flying feet technique" 😂
@someguydudeGAME
@someguydudeGAME 8 жыл бұрын
this is sort of like the "push pull" technique. It's a really awesome and efficient way of doing it, excellent tutorial.
@nenissaK
@nenissaK 8 жыл бұрын
I think that's a really good description, like pushing and pulling your heel (although your "toe" pushes the leg up again on the second stroke). Tommorrow's 4 months since I first started learning this technique. Day 1: 140 bpm for a few seconds before messing up. Now: 200 for 10 minutes goes almost perfectly, and I can barely do 3 times 10 minutes 210 bpm (weirdly nowadays it's my thighs at those tempos that start to hurt, instead of the shins back then when I started to practise, because the faster I play the more I start by pushing my heel down partially with the thigh also). And yes, I think this is a really smart technique. Although for the first few days it feels like you'll never learn to actually use it and play loud and clean..
@matenorth
@matenorth 6 жыл бұрын
The same happens to my strong foot thigh. Its very strange because i use ankle motion only. I use floating technique and my knee is slightly elevated. I dont know why it hurts
@CottonInDerTube
@CottonInDerTube 8 жыл бұрын
They called him "machine". Its actually perfection. This is the same thing you actually do with your hands - so why not with your feets.
@djsist
@djsist 8 жыл бұрын
After playing guitar for about a decade now, I started practicing on drums. Your videos are absolutely spot-on and to the point, and AMAZING. Thank you for your lessons. Subbed :)
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
@agentflashgordon5119
@agentflashgordon5119 7 жыл бұрын
I started drums as well after 20 sum years of guitar, and having good gear makes all the difference! And nechtan on youtube! You rock
@agentflashgordon5119
@agentflashgordon5119 7 жыл бұрын
So you don't like salmon, because of your namesakes history!
@rocklandmusic
@rocklandmusic 8 жыл бұрын
this technique sounds great without triggers...the beaters are flying back far and the bassdrum is resonating beautifully! awesome man!\m/
@markopolo5511
@markopolo5511 6 жыл бұрын
I've been a drummer for 50 years and that's the best I've ever seen you're awesome dude
@mauriziozambrano317
@mauriziozambrano317 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to George Kollias too
@Ivillam_Uendosi
@Ivillam_Uendosi 7 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. your decision to upload this has really helped. all your techniques are amazing and i wish that you always get whatever you desire. you are an outstanding drummer. NEVER STOP PLAYING,much love.
@svetlanakashukova860
@svetlanakashukova860 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's exactly what I need. I always had problem with the high-heel technique, but I have good enough the down-heel. Your way to play it helps me to play fast after a few weeks practicing, thank you a lot!
@scruffytech
@scruffytech 11 жыл бұрын
I am an older guy, always loved the drums. Life circumstances prevented my pursuit of drumming at any level of intensity. Now just a hobby. so it is so freaking awesome to see such talent!. I like the way you break it down so we can see how this can possibly be achieved by (much) lesser drummers like myself, You ROCK, MAN! Keep them coming.
@UncleTacoBell
@UncleTacoBell 9 жыл бұрын
I recently just got back into drumming after taking 2 years off - that was my first mistake. My second mistake was not taking this video seriously. Yes, his hands may be sloppy in this video, but that shouldn't be any indication of his talent as this video is about an insanely fast bass drum technique. I honestly would love to hear you do this technique with a full band and see how you apply this to tunes with your band. Thank you for posting this, and thank you especially for making this easy to understand and easy to practice this method. I'm pretty sure that in about 2 years time, the music industry will be flooded with drummers playing 16th notes at 300bpm.
@alostorder
@alostorder 9 жыл бұрын
+UncleTacoBell check out his channel. Has some good studio drum tracking.
@RafikMankariosDrumStudio
@RafikMankariosDrumStudio 10 жыл бұрын
WOW! Just wow! I've seen so many drummers explain the technique, but never seen anyone so efficient at it. What's really impressive is from 2:54 to 3:05 with one bass drum. I think anyone who could work this speed with ONE foot will destroy everything with two feet, like you did! Bravo to you!!
@Dhukino
@Dhukino 8 жыл бұрын
3:21 i'm really amazed that it sounds so perfectly smooth
@mauiavian
@mauiavian 8 жыл бұрын
Wanja, Aloha from Maui, bro! You have described the process of learning double bass speed, better than anyone on the entire internet. Then you actualized what you taught and it threw me onto the floor. It is SOOO defined! You are a master teacher of something very difficult.Sending you my love, mahalo's and plenty aloha, inside a white popcorn cloud racing to you across a deep blue sea.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 11 жыл бұрын
I dont use any practise pad. I only play on my bassdrum and for demonstration purposes I use my Demon Drive suitcase in this video!
@LogicJab
@LogicJab 11 жыл бұрын
As other people said, this is essentially the heel-toe technique, but he does explain it quite well. There's also some nuance there. He demonstrates it as less of a quick rock forward than as two distinct beats. It's not necessarily that he's doing it all that different to any other heel-toe drummers as much as it is this explanation might help others visualize the distinction between heel toe and simply rocking your feet to make quick doubles. Well done.
@critnasty5570
@critnasty5570 8 жыл бұрын
You win. I quit.
@rankest2390
@rankest2390 4 жыл бұрын
Lool
@eloy_demolish3r659
@eloy_demolish3r659 3 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@grimgod5405
@grimgod5405 9 жыл бұрын
This is the technique I've been needing..... It won't take me years. It'll take me one month or two, give or take. Thanks!
@michaelburris5502
@michaelburris5502 9 жыл бұрын
Abdolutely the sickest double bass I have ever witnessed! Im speechless
@guitarbam
@guitarbam 10 жыл бұрын
I've been searching for double bass foot technique in youtube and your technique is work best for me. Thanks a million bro!!!
@garbagepailkids81
@garbagepailkids81 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Nice explanation and demonstration! Subscribed! I play single pedal currently but this makes me want to save up to buy a double pedal!
@The_Other_Ghost
@The_Other_Ghost 2 жыл бұрын
progress?
@garbagepailkids81
@garbagepailkids81 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Other_Ghost I bought an old DW 3000 double pedal and am working out of a method book. It’s coming along.
@The_Other_Ghost
@The_Other_Ghost 2 жыл бұрын
@@garbagepailkids81 Remember, practice double bass everywhere. I was doing it at school and even at the airport, especially easy when practicing heels up.
@darknature79
@darknature79 10 жыл бұрын
This video just changed my drumming technique all together I tried this for about 15mns and nothing so I relaxed and all the sudden I was getting it I couldntt believe it it was like taking some of the best drugs made I couldn't believe I just learnned a new technique in 20 mns and m y feet will move so much better now thank you so much.All the drum vids I've watched and none have helped my feet like this one.
@demonicsweaters
@demonicsweaters 8 жыл бұрын
that was fucking crazy man, my jaw is still on the floor
@classixdrummer
@classixdrummer 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video man! I have to say this is the clearest explanation of the technique of what amounts to "Moeller for the feet". The amount of time you have spent and the hard work you have put in is obvious in your demonstrations at speed. Time to practice . . . or quit!
@LawrenceDelToroDrum
@LawrenceDelToroDrum 8 жыл бұрын
Yes FASTER FASTER!
@bebettoninja
@bebettoninja 10 жыл бұрын
Now Im 250bpm using the swivel technique, but that's it… I don't get to move forward with it. Your technique been stuck in my head for months, this is my solution to get to 300bpm, thanks a lot bro!
@DoodlyDoo59210
@DoodlyDoo59210 7 жыл бұрын
7:09 you broke the camera your rate was too fast
@vikingsofficialchannel747
@vikingsofficialchannel747 6 жыл бұрын
Dustin Hoeppner Hahahah omg
@SteveHanson
@SteveHanson 5 жыл бұрын
Suck that peter, boy
@Heka41
@Heka41 5 жыл бұрын
@@SteveHanson moron
@ffffffff5834
@ffffffff5834 8 жыл бұрын
You seem to nail the very technique I'm striving to get operationnal for me now. I like the fact you "unbury the beater", I do it myself because it fits me regarding sound AND feel. I find it especially difficult to achieve this with both feet at the same time while keeping volume low. Congratulations dude !
@Zazquatch1
@Zazquatch1 10 жыл бұрын
Nice and relaxed technique.
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, isn't it? :-) I wear his T-Shirt with Pride!! (My Icon is Meytal Cohen's Drum (Mine now). Signed! Meytal doesn't use this technique).
@munchoholicsanonymous7349
@munchoholicsanonymous7349 4 жыл бұрын
Younwill change the world of drumming my friend. You have shown something that opens the door to only what robots would be capable of. Thank you!
@CrazedLeper
@CrazedLeper 8 жыл бұрын
I'll never be able to do that. It doesn't help that I'm almost 50, I don't have any drums and I never did.
@hingeslevers
@hingeslevers 8 жыл бұрын
Dude, get a cheap practicing drumkit, do it, it's never too late too learn!
@CrazedLeper
@CrazedLeper 8 жыл бұрын
hingeslevers I intend to--but first I need someplace to put it.
@cakeofthepan2233
@cakeofthepan2233 8 жыл бұрын
I am 43 and I am damned if i'm not getting at least a semi good at double kick...I need to play to Be'Lakor
@hingeslevers
@hingeslevers 8 жыл бұрын
CrazedLeper I have a small old electronic kit in my bedroom. With my bands we practice in a rehearsal space. You can usually get a price reduction if you practice solo.
@CrazedLeper
@CrazedLeper 8 жыл бұрын
hingeslevers Not a bad idea, but even that would be beyond my means--at the moment.
@ultrafloss492
@ultrafloss492 7 жыл бұрын
I was just going through my old harddrive and found videos from 11 years where Bosticman explained this technique. I wanted to upload it so people would be aware but I'm glad you made a video about it! It really changed my playing style and the ability to hold speed and volume. Playing Fear Factory became a piece of cake, lol. Thanks for getting it out there man!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Do you mean this one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZPLcpimo7GHabs
@ultrafloss492
@ultrafloss492 7 жыл бұрын
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger exactly, I've got two or three more but this is the import one.
@crimsun7186
@crimsun7186 9 жыл бұрын
MorganvanHelsing This would be like a moeller stroke with your foot, rocking motion or 'toe-heel'
@mikel92009
@mikel92009 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be 52 soon, played guitar since I was a teenager, started drumming 2 and a half years ago. Your videos, especially this one, are helping me become the drummer I've always wanted to be....
@chasonwestmoreland248
@chasonwestmoreland248 5 жыл бұрын
Dude. First day today for me. We will see what happens. What a sick technique
@drummonkeystuffuk1875
@drummonkeystuffuk1875 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've been on it for 2 days now - my overall speed has gone mental! the only difficult part is getting my feet perfectly in sync..be I'll get there..I'm working on double switching from 170 - 340bpm lol
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 11 жыл бұрын
Okay, if your strokes are uneven so this: Decrease spring tension of your pedal and increase the beater distance. And now try to play with the swing of the pedal and try to find a comfortable tempo where the pedal swings nice and your foot does almost nothing. Play a lot at this tempo. If you have problems with the "toe-stroke" try beginning heel down instead of heel up.
@slammajamma464
@slammajamma464 4 жыл бұрын
Wanja! Thanks for your inspiring work and Thanks also for sharing so clearly, this technique. - Dan Day Drums. Salt Lake City, Utah.
@TheSlayerswe
@TheSlayerswe 10 жыл бұрын
Holy Shit! Incredible footwork! I mostly play guitar but I play drums for fun and some covers. Gonna cover Flying Whales by Gojira. Might try this!
@christiancziezerski2291
@christiancziezerski2291 10 жыл бұрын
Could listen to this all day, very nice feel to it, smooth and even.
@bdfmartin9711
@bdfmartin9711 7 жыл бұрын
thank you sooooo much for this video, you help me out alot. so keep doing what your doing!! XD
@Redrummer33
@Redrummer33 7 жыл бұрын
This is the real stuff. To get this loudness at that speed without TRIGGERS! 🙌🏻
@apieceofdirt4681
@apieceofdirt4681 8 жыл бұрын
The strokes get more uneven past 220bpm but who gives a shit??? This guy has an amazing foot technique. I was waiting for his legs to explode!!!
@poorboysadventures4636
@poorboysadventures4636 7 жыл бұрын
Listen to it, he sometimes plays both at once. Its just an observation. amazing drummer nonetheless. That takes a lot of practice.
@j.m.3257
@j.m.3257 6 жыл бұрын
I heard it too, but the he's saying it's still an impressive performance. I totally agree.
@TheRadFactor
@TheRadFactor 11 жыл бұрын
Just got my double pedal and THIS my friend is what I will be learning for a while. Thanks a lot for the hints.
@Knutorius
@Knutorius 9 жыл бұрын
wut!? a suitcase as a bass drum practice pad. :D i have to think about that.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 9 жыл бұрын
I just used it for the video - normally I always play on a real bass drum ;-)
@claysmell
@claysmell 7 жыл бұрын
I love this video that started it all. I come back to it regularly. Awesome!
@Standbackforscience
@Standbackforscience 8 жыл бұрын
The camera gave up trying to keep up at 240.
@raybond6047
@raybond6047 8 жыл бұрын
MorganvanHelsing! Wow! Very impressed with your technique! I've been a drummer for some time now and just last year (2015) started extreme metal drumming. Always looking to improve. I thank you for your time to show us old and new drummers your technique. If the old-head metal drummers knew this stuff in the past, we would have done so! Thanks!
@maddog788
@maddog788 8 жыл бұрын
is that a german accent?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
+Malfurion Stormrage yes it is ;)
@maddog788
@maddog788 8 жыл бұрын
MorganvanHelsing haha nicht schlecht spielen du und deine band noch? :b
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
Die Bands, die ich in dem Video hier nenne, sind noch aktiv, ja - wobei Aletrun gerade eine kreative Pause einlegen.
@Danalmagrodrumsnbass
@Danalmagrodrumsnbass 3 ай бұрын
I called this Wanja technique. Who else is using this style? So powerful and precise.. I really need to sit down and practice
@LamziLamziLamzi
@LamziLamziLamzi 8 жыл бұрын
5:51 every Slayer song
@positivevibes9252
@positivevibes9252 8 жыл бұрын
Arif Suhardi slipknot*
@kappecoppa9279
@kappecoppa9279 8 жыл бұрын
True XD (That "The Devil in I" tho)
@metalmilitia5305
@metalmilitia5305 7 жыл бұрын
Kudo Da Gunner I can tell devil in i is one of the only slipknot songs you've heard... Devil in I doesn't even have much double bass for being slipknot
@BurnTheNuance
@BurnTheNuance 7 жыл бұрын
Metal Militia Be honest who really wants to listen to more than one Slipknot song.
@andrejrmusic
@andrejrmusic 7 жыл бұрын
Disasterpiece is a better example
@SamirMamude
@SamirMamude 9 жыл бұрын
I've playing heel-toe for 1 year and I realize that it's not so great, I need to learn your technique, this is very powerful and clean.
@dadygee
@dadygee 6 жыл бұрын
Who is still watching this in 2018? better quit watching vids and start to practise boy! (me included) Still a great vid tho
@raymondbauer2152
@raymondbauer2152 5 жыл бұрын
Hah jokes on you im watching it while practicing and Training my weaker leg
@allyonightmare
@allyonightmare 4 жыл бұрын
Who is still begging for attention?
@LIBERTYorD34TH
@LIBERTYorD34TH 4 жыл бұрын
Ya its such a waste of time to learn new things....
@mtgarrett
@mtgarrett 11 жыл бұрын
You're the first person I've seen that's really done well with this technique. I first learned of this back in the 80s watching the Steve Gadd Up Close video. I actually got it to where I could do it ok, but ditched it for some unknown reason. Your video has inspired me to revisit it. I'm getting it, but I think the most difficult thing about this is playing "Unaccented." It's very difficult to make each hit the same volume. Thanks for the video and inspiration man!
@sighermike
@sighermike 10 жыл бұрын
You know, it absolutely amazes me how many people have commented on this guy's appearance or voice. Are you fucking kidding me? Do you suck so bad that the only way you feel better about yourself while watching this guy play is to say dumb shit like that? Dude, you're awesome!!!!! I just sent this video to my drummer.
@westonthefoster
@westonthefoster 10 жыл бұрын
I second your comment. There are a lot of sad people around that miss the point. I guess we can't stop the haters..
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 10 жыл бұрын
Actually I find it interesting and amusing when people comment on my voice or appearance - that is far more entertaining than no comments at all.
@jerryrudd4723
@jerryrudd4723 10 жыл бұрын
MorganvanHelsing You are an amazing drummer, They must be jealous, Instead of learning from you and becoming better... they chose to make fun of you. It is pathetic, I myself choose to try to learn from you, At my age i doubt if i could get that good, I am almost 48 years old.
@shredsixsixsix9218
@shredsixsixsix9218 9 жыл бұрын
The single strokes on the kick sound really loud and clear .This is a very consistent sound .The best
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
Check out my new tutorial about Coordination Exercises: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYKYn3V5oa5gadE
@crocket1971
@crocket1971 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Wanja! My compliments! In the beginning of the video-first example you used a DW pedal (shortboard i guest?). So your technique is also on a shortboard to apply?
@seriouscasualgamer9580
@seriouscasualgamer9580 8 жыл бұрын
crocket1971 he said yes in a previous comment, that doesn't really matter
@MartyrsShrineOfficial
@MartyrsShrineOfficial 8 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I've been doing a similar technique for years. Instead of two strokes per foot I use three and raise the heel a little higher...I started out in 6/8 time at a slow tempo to get the co-ordination right and slowly built up the speed over a number of years.
@valdx7
@valdx7 11 жыл бұрын
What the fuck. I was so excited I thought I would be able to do that after watching this. Until I tried...
@shecter68
@shecter68 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. I am a guitar player and late bloomer on the drums. Just wanting to get 150 bpm. That's all I need. Keep up the good work.
@bruhbruh-lw8vh
@bruhbruh-lw8vh 10 жыл бұрын
Haha its funny how he's just sitting chill on the couch.
@JackdawIsland
@JackdawIsland 8 жыл бұрын
You're doing more with your right foot than many can do with both! This is an awesome technique and I'm hoping to master it one day!
@mydaddysteve
@mydaddysteve 8 жыл бұрын
fuck every time i try to do it my muscle it the front of my shin hurts like a bitch and tightens up
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem in the beginning - it takes a while for the shin muscles to get used to the motion especially when you played heel up before. It may help to practise a bit heel down to train the shin muscles.
@mydaddysteve
@mydaddysteve 7 жыл бұрын
ok thanks im working on it
@TheTayedrums
@TheTayedrums 7 жыл бұрын
great shit man...there is always something to learn...good technique....thank you for sharing...much love from detroit...
@chrisalicea25able
@chrisalicea25able 10 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense. I would do something similar to your technique, but I could never get it right. Thanks so much!
@МигельБерсунса
@МигельБерсунса 7 жыл бұрын
Ausgezeichnet!!!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Danke!
@musikistkunst
@musikistkunst 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Wanja, thank you very much for the concentrated explanation of your db-technique and your honest words concerning the endurance of practizing... Merry Christmas from Germany Julia
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 10 жыл бұрын
Danke! DIr auch frohe Weihnachten ;-)
@FlyingPigMD
@FlyingPigMD 7 жыл бұрын
Once he got to 170 I thought It would end. I️ have never been so wrong.
@webgomer
@webgomer 7 жыл бұрын
I think the pedal limit was nearly reached at 250 bpm! Thank God for ball bearings! That is some insane talent and a ton of practice!
@SubhramaniSathyanarayan
@SubhramaniSathyanarayan 11 жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy :|
@drummonkeystuffuk1875
@drummonkeystuffuk1875 5 жыл бұрын
It's easier than you think :) Its just nailing the technique thats the challenge.
@ClassicGamerDave
@ClassicGamerDave 11 жыл бұрын
I like the terms interlaced heel-toe or alternated heel-toe. It's similar to the pump-stroke or push-pull motion for your hands which requires you to play relaxed. When you interlace the double and triple stroke between one another they become interlaced (or alternated). Just food for thought I guess. I don't think your technique is strange at all but extremely relaxed and efficient. Great video!
@KaraCamilleDelonas
@KaraCamilleDelonas 11 жыл бұрын
You must have the most toned calves of any other drummer
@NelsonLoud
@NelsonLoud 10 жыл бұрын
Indeed!!
@RafikMankariosDrumStudio
@RafikMankariosDrumStudio 8 жыл бұрын
I may have commented on this video a long time ago, but I keep ending up here, so forgive me if I'm being redundant. Wanja, your technique is quite simply extraordinary! Yes, you're not the only one with this technique, but it's quite rare to see someone play at that speed and be so precise! I actually find SINGLE bass drum playing way more impressive if you can built speed like yours! From 2:50 to 3:05 is pretty much a killer! Cheers to you!
@totoongrakista689
@totoongrakista689 9 жыл бұрын
Tip! Don't buy cheap double bass pedals those cheap DP's will just frustrate you
@Gren4te
@Gren4te 7 жыл бұрын
Totoong Rakista So Wanja seems to be using direct drive "metal rod" pedals (don't know how it's called exactly). I wonder if this is even doable with normal chain or belt drive pedals?
@barkbox3931
@barkbox3931 7 жыл бұрын
Nathan van Dalen Pearl demon drive. It's a direct drive.
@youngprofessor
@youngprofessor 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, man! Excellent development of that technique! Sounds smooth and it looks like the feet are staying loose. Kudos.
@TrainDevil
@TrainDevil 8 жыл бұрын
At 190, it just starts to sound like a helicopter.
@timsabepieczynski7051
@timsabepieczynski7051 5 жыл бұрын
I seen Steve Smith explain this technique years ago. But his was the opposite where he did flat first then heel. This is cool , I shall practice this. Thank you.
@based_ukulele
@based_ukulele 9 жыл бұрын
...why are my feet retarded?
@MegaLJ3
@MegaLJ3 7 жыл бұрын
you're not alone.
@ballerballerandy
@ballerballerandy 9 жыл бұрын
Very good video, especially the fact that you talk about the work over years - this keeps up hope and shows that speed is no result of waiting for wonders! :)
@starkie1990
@starkie1990 11 жыл бұрын
I love how he's a metal drummer but acts so damn civilized.
@JosecCuervo
@JosecCuervo 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know metal drummers were uncivilized
@AlfredoZauberer
@AlfredoZauberer 8 жыл бұрын
I'm play Metal Guitar since 38 Years and i have hear many Drummer. The Double Bass Drums are very Diffrent and there are many Ways to Accent this Bass Drum Notes. In my Opinion your Style is very Clear and straight into the Face of BPM, and the BPM Groove is the Best Groove in all Kinds of Music...in my Opinion. Very Good Man! To Bad that me not have find a Drummer like you all the Years, i'm sure that than Money will roll straight in. Right, a good Singer is Alpha and Omega ... but this Guys came along when they hear good Music without a Voice and Question "Why there are no Vocals, you search for a Shouter" ...ya, ya ...ok let us make some Rehearsal... and further on. To make Money with your Instrument you need good Songs and Members they do it with you...but the good Songs are the Importend Thing! Good Luck for the Future Man!
@lahelah9375
@lahelah9375 9 жыл бұрын
isn't it like heel toe technique??
@ianantolik3273
@ianantolik3273 8 жыл бұрын
It is heel toe
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
+ian antolik There are 2 main reasons why I don't call this technique "heel-toe": First of all I never create a bass drum hit by hitting the pedal with my heel. The energy/pressure for each hit comes from the ball of my foot. I know that many people would still call it ht but the more accurate term would be "toe-down". The second reason: Presumably 99% of the drummers who claim to use heel-toe play double strokes on the bass drum (right-right-left-left). I use single strojkes (right-left-right-left) and since singles usually sound much better on an acoustic kit this makes a huge difference. I would call this "heel-up-heel-down".
@bearlxrd
@bearlxrd 8 жыл бұрын
+MorganvanHelsing wouldnt you be applying force with your heels if you had longboard pedals? that's what I'm seeing in your footwork, I'm just curious because it really looks like it from what I've seen from drummers that switched from regular pedals
@ianantolik3273
@ianantolik3273 8 жыл бұрын
+nate mowles I have a long bored and I did it just how he said and it's just heel toe it's nothing strange so yeah it's heel toe
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 8 жыл бұрын
+nate mowles Actually I have my Demon Drive pedal set up as a longboard. I also played Axis longboards before but my heel always hits the ground or the very end of the pedal board. So the force for each hit is always applied via the ball of my foot and it does not matter if I play long or shortboards.
@DrummClem
@DrummClem 9 жыл бұрын
Well, I really need to get back to this. I can do this on the floor but when it comes to the kit, that's a totaly different story... You have a great articulation and a nice amplitude as well, so you don't need triggers, even for such tempo. Awesome job dude !
@immortalcoils93
@immortalcoils93 11 жыл бұрын
this is called the heel toe technique. just explained a lot better than a guy saying first do this "boom" then do this "boom" now you can do this "boobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboom"!!! haha
@juliojimenezhbl
@juliojimenezhbl 10 жыл бұрын
I'm completely impressed! I had never seen something like that! Congrats man!
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