Strange Things That Never Made Sense About JFK's Assassination

[@GrungeHQ]

What do you think is the strangest thing about JFK's assassination?

[@djf750]

@@GrungeHQ all of the conspiracy theories, all the writers and publishers making money on this conspiracy nonsense

[@michaelroloson2389]

What I think is strange is how that the CIA director, who was Geoge Bush Sr., was in the Dallas area at the same day and time as JFK was. Why is this strange? Because in the history of the CIA never before or since has the director of the CIA been in the same area at the same time as a US. President. Just something more to wonder about.

[@djf750]

@@michaelroloson2389 If that IS true, so what??? Do you think the CIA would have a plot to kill the President of the United States and have agents in plain sight? And are you talking about the person identified as Bush, right outside the Book Depository building? But if that WAS Bush, again so what? Tell us what that means. And I'm not sure that was proven to be Bush

[@Sammyhasbigmuscles]

The magic bullet theory

[@Sammyhasbigmuscles]

The magic bullet theory

[@ironcladranchandforge7292]

You missed another strange story. The story of Dorothy Kilgallen. She was a newspaper reporter and also a host on the TV show "Whats My Line". She was investigating the Kennedy Assassination and had several interviews with Jack Ruby. They found her dead in her NY apartment in 1965.

[@effexon]

yea I saw docs in couple places comment on her and her personality.... clear why she was killed... similar as Marilyn... they were people with conviction and honest people. Simple as that.

[@tims8603]

Marilyn Monroe, who JFK was having an affair with, was found in a similar state. Coincidence?

[@sbar091]

Thanks for the rabbit hole. There goes the rest of my afternoon.

[@ironcladranchandforge7292]

@@sbar091 -- It's an interesting story with lots of intrigue. She was one of the leading journalists to investigate and had tons of contacts. Five days before her death she told friends she had important information and was going to "break the story wide open". She filmed an episode of "Whats My Line" the night before and everyone said she was fine and her usual self. Also, she was a personal friend of JFK. Happy reading down the rabbit hole!!

[@sbar091]

@@ironcladranchandforge7292 She was the only person who interviewed Jack Ruby before that Mk Ultra "Doctor" got ahold of him? I wonder if the missing draft had that interview in it. File that one under Priceless Books Mysteriously Lost to History.

[@chrishall7227]

Oswald claimed he was innocent and was assassinated before he could prove it. I don't believe it's right to claim he is guilty when he never had a trial.

[@NeilLewis77]

So in your eyes the kid who shot at Trump is innocent? He didn't get a trial. So guess we will never know if he was guilty or not lol.

[@willyschobben1709]

murdered by jack rubenstein

[@NeilLewis77]

@@chrishall7227 so you think the kid who sniped at Trump is innocent? He never had a trail. Who do you think did it instead? Aliens?

[@MusgraveRitual]

I find his denial of guilt the strangest aspect of the case. Usually a supposed "lone wolf" assassins can't wait to assume the responsibility and have a whole litany of grievances to justify their act at the ready. They usually leave lengthy manifestos and a trail of enduring obsession with their target(s). Oswald certainly appears very atypical for the kind of crime he committed.

[@NeilLewis77]

@@MusgraveRitual yes but if you focus on that oddity you miss the enourmous 50 year mountian of gigantic evidence that he did it. the fact this was oswalds second attempt on a politician. the fact he was a proud communist. the fact the bullet matched the gun. the fact he was found near his workplace on his day off. the fact he spent months working at the very building that the shots came from. the fact that the whole thing was caught on tape helps alot. everyone can name a witness who saw something odd but then ignores the thousands of witnesses that saw the whole thing. this crime was an open and shut case. conspiracy theories only started to form about it years after the event. same as every other conspiracy theory. oliver stone is not a documentarian.

[@drguffey]

They questioned Oswald for hours. The fact there are no transcripts is an outrage !

[@aaronz7056]

Report from each of Oswald's interrogators were included in the Warren Report, covering some 40 pages.

[@drguffey]

@@aaronz7056 Researchers have found transcripts of interrogations from 40 & 50 years ago. Recording & transcribing interrogations has been SOP for. decades. Only the JFK assassination is the exception !

[@MrChicpunk]

​@@aaronz7056 Really? Could you please write here exactly where? You know, i Just checked Warren report index and there's no trace of interrogation transcript 🙂

[@aaronz7056]

@@MrChicpunk Yeah, I've got it here in front of me. lol Enough with this crackpot conspiracy paranoia already.

[@MrChicpunk]

@@aaronz7056 you're a funny troll, indeed

[@SophisticatedBob]

Anyone who thinks Oswald killed Kennedy by himself, only to be shot by Jack Ruby, has a marble loose. No way.

[@indigohammer5732]

He had means, motive, opportunity. He was a USMC marksman. He took his wedding ring off before going to work that day. He done it.

[@MLevin-kx5dg]

A better rendering of the condition would be, "no marbles"

[@otteottema6839]

​@@indigohammer5732 Oswald was one of 3 shooters. He did not fire. Nicoletti and Files hit the president.

[@bobthetitanic]

Marksman in moving targets?​@@indigohammer5732

[@blahblahblah6668]

Truth

[@Eric-qo8vv]

We don’t know a lot because CIA doesn’t want us to

[@lightningphoenix69]

We know a lot. We just don’t have it all. Plus, the agency keeps putting out misinformation like this shitty video.

[@LinkLich]

I think maybe the CIA and FBI are just bad at their jobs, the americans are tricked into thinking they're the power eh to make them feel safe.. but really... they suck.

[@pyhead9916]

To this day, the CIA has not released all of the files, which is a violation of the law! I've heard 54 files still remain unreleased. Why has no one been jailed?

[@SONNYFLOYDNAPLES]

look up the doc ( JFK to 9/11 everything is a rich man's trick ) 3hr 27min version , been banned since released 2014 by MSM

[@LBNLDC1]

@@lightningphoenix69This video has all the earmarks of a Project Mockingbird production.

[@graciesinclair305]

The fact that they ruined the autopsy makes me sick

[@useyourbrain1539]

Enough was found to prove Oswalds' bullet, a non-fragmentary round, wasn't the one that hit his head.

[@Biggestfoot10209]

⁠​⁠@stddisclaimer8020do you have any experience in what really happens to bullets on impact. Or are you just spewing nonsense that you found online.

[@GentlemanlyOtter]

@stddisclaimer8020 source?

[@zyrrhos]

​@stddisclaimer8020 The only marksman able to replicate Oswald's feat (after a third attempt) was a ballistics expert who spent 25 years reexamining the evidence and concluded a second shot most likely came from a Secret Service rifle. It's the most plausible theory I've heard out of dozens. What are your credentials?

[@jodyharnish9104]

They didn't just ruin the autopsy. They altered the body and the pictures.

[@Blackcat-fw4tl]

He called the demons out They killed him. We are still ran by his killers today.

[@BrianCorntassel-zl3gy]

Its called Freemasons

[@melkadri]

While I agree it's a conspiracy. It's hard to supervise 100 people let alone run an entire society of people. We all as citizens can't begin to imagine what it takes to keep this place running.

[@geraldgeraldson7640]

@@melkadrithe mafia was a secret society in US for decades before it was publicly acknowledged. I think it’s much easier to have mass collusion when the incentives to not speak up are death, destruction of reputation and character. And financial incentives. Major colleges in the US have secret societies of young connect frat bros and those stay under wraps pretty well. Disinformation will always be the CIA strongest tools against conspiracies. More smoke more fire I say.

[@geertnoels3266]

Mosssd killed JFK

[@pineapple5541]

The people vs the oligarch

[@midniteman]

The assassination was a watershed event. The country was never the same after it.

[@BC-lf4om]

That & also the shooting of MLK & the VIETNAM WAR with the Nationwide Protests against it.! In 1960s the USA turned a corner....

[@kathyet424]

And I think it will never be until all the truth and facts come out..

[@douglasfortin9711]

One of the strangest things for is that the Secret Service cleaned the limo, destoying a crime scene on national television. WTF!

[@genekelly8467]

The limo was flown to Michigan, where the bullet-holed winshield was replaced. Hald the CIA operatives in the USA were involved..even Ruth Paine (the friend of the Oswald family) worked for the CIA!

[@artn2950]

Bad decision too spare views of President's blood

[@douglasfortin9711]

@@artn2950 ?

[@ItsKrma00]

​@@douglasfortin9711I guess this was way before CSI awareness. Also, it was stated that a ss agent cleaned away blood etc. to " protect " the dignity of JFK

[@elizabethklaus1334]

❤CIA FBI did they kill him

[@Chadleyization]

the fact that there are documents that are unreleased and classified tells you all you need to know. Whoever wants to keep information hidden is likely your culprit.

[@kennyfupowers9111]

they wont release it because of Bush JR he is alive and still at it , his dad was infront of the book depository ( theres pictures ) that day right before , and he (Bush SR )was the director of the CIA at the time and they were just one of the many agency's that had a hand in it .. u cant pull this off without a bunch of high ranking officials

[@christaylor8337]

At this point it proves they are not protecting people, but rather agencies.

[@terryenyart5838]

I have no proof, but every part of my being has told me our government was involved in JFK's murder. This was only after years of research.

[@marcostar57]

​@christaylor8337 duh.. CIA, FBI you thunk..?!

[@my1vice]

The gov't keep all sorts of stuff secret.

[@wayneyd2]

One of the strangest is how most of the witnesses die within two years.

[@aaronz7056]

"Mysterious deaths list of witnesses" is an hilarious myth started by a couple of grifting authors where everybody on it either had little or no connection to the case or else their causes of death were misreported to sound more "sinister."

[@gregaiken1725]

not strange. its normal.

[@RichardM333]

@@aaronz7056 II suggest you read "JFK: The Last Dissenting Witness" by Bill Sloan and Jean Hill.

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

Lies, the simpler they are the more true they sound.

[@E.Danael]

Hard to say if you're CIA or JIDF... maybe just a neurotic reddit shill the way you compulsively reply to every comment

[@gabb159]

Oswald wasn't the shooter. Or at least he wasn't alone. There was a massive coverup because it was an inside job.

[@gadgetcoder]

Mark Wallace, an LBJ “fixer” was (one of) the shooter(s). Wallace’s thumb print was found in the room in the repository where Oswald supposedly fired from. The head wound WAS an exit wound, NOT an entry wound. There were TWO shooters - Wallace, who fired the shot that passed through JFKs neck and Connelly’s body. And the other who fired (the fatal head shot)Wallace did NOT fire from the Repository though, but from the building across the street. He has simply placed Oswald’s rifle in the repository room. JFK’s brain was disappeared because it showed the entry AND exit wounds…Besides, Oswald was NEVER that good a shot!

[@garybrewster5657]

@@gadgetcoder Utter nonsense

[@xjcrossx]

By law they were supposed to release all the classified documents regarding this event. And they never did. Wonder why?

[@mrhundiddy-cn7ke]

every president since it was supposed to realase has been pressured into keeping it hidden or the truths too bad that they are too scared to be the one in office when the news breaks.

[@tims8603]

To protect the CIA.

[@Chrish4200]

Um cuz trump was in charge

[@CrazyBear65]

CIA

[@markgarrett3647]

​@@Chrish4200They still haven't released everything when it's now Biden.

[@jimstanley8924]

Still think LBJ and Hoover had him killed

[@RobloxGOD-900]

FBI and CIA.

[@justayankhouston741]

read roger stone bush book

[@B.Ryan-s7w]

They did ...stone wrote a book about it ...rfk was gonna indict Johnson

[@alancoe1002]

Naw, they hated Fidel Castro more. There was a US backed coup to begin Cuba in ten days. That would be blown with Kennedy's death. The mob had infiltrated the CIA and the anti-Castro exiles. They were being prosecuted by Bobby Kennedy, as was Jimmy Hoffa. They had an abiding hate and fear of both Kennedys, but they knew they had to get to JFK to neutralize Bobby. It worked. Mob prosecutions dropped off a great deal after the assassination. Then, a few years later Bobby decided to run for President. Well... same guys, same game, patsy and all.

[@adamcuneo7189]

It wouldn't be surprising, since LBJ bugged Barry Goldwater's campaign headquarters during the 1964 presidential race.

[@MegaSkills9]

You can add this true fact to your story. VP Lyndon Johnson was in a restaurant with 3 other people 2 days before Kennedy was shot. There is documentation that a waitress there swore in a police report (As well as doing a lie detector test) that she heard the following conversation between Johnson and the other 3 men. Two of the men were complaining about Kennedy's non co-operation on certain policies and actions. Johnson stated (2 days before the shooting) "Don't worry...in a couple of days from now, he will no longer be a problem. I will be in charge." (He knew in advance that Kennedy was going to be killed.) This is one of the many things in history that our government has covered up from the public.

[@aaronz7056]

No, this is an hilariously implausible, crackpot fable.

[@MegaSkills9]

@@aaronz7056 - All of my comment are TRUE and I really don't care if you are too stupid to believe it. There is an actual police report filed by the woman when she came forward. No action was taken due to political pressure. She also tried to come forward to the press and the same people squashed the story and under pressure from the government. The story was not made public. No action was ever taken to charge the woman with anything. My post was to inform other people, what I happen to know for a fact. Keep your opinion to yourself.

[@downtownbrown50]

@@aaronz7056 except LBJ's mistress confirms it. It was in a statement she signed that was made after LBJ died.

[@aaronz7056]

@@downtownbrown50 Rubbish.

[@amykauffman8501]

Everything’s a rich man’s trick- watch that 😮

[@arizonatea3734]

My favorite thing is probably umbrella man. The timing is strange and it also wasnt raining. Most just use hats or shades to cover sun light

[@sydnidowney3598]

I have always heard that JFK was concerned about the power and autonomy of the CIA.

[@jaelge]

He was a threat to the alphabet agencies, as (was) is Trump. That's why one was assassinated and another was the victim of a failed attempt.

[@tomcusack884]

JFK fired then CIA Director Allen Dulles for being lied to about The Bay of Pigs fiasco. LBJ then puts Mr. Dulles on the Warren Commission. The fix is in.

[@trinihammer]

yes, JFK threatened to smash the CIA into a thousand pieces.

[@SubPablum]

Just weeks before he was assassinated JFK ordered a complete withdrawal from Vietnam. Food for thought that. Keeping in mind a lot of people and corporations were expecting to make a lot of money from that little deal. And they did.

[@joshuakennedy8218]

@sydnidowney3598 and he was also curtailing a lot of what the Cia was doing as well. They didn't like that.

[@LinkLich]

Strange stuff.. much like a 20 year old with no social media.

[@UN4LL0C473D]

A 20 year old with no social media presence isn't that uncommon...

[@TheModernSnipez]

How is that odd?😅

[@ryantii2300]

I feel attacked.

[@darthvader7684]

4chan my friend, he used 4chan. It’s anonymous

[@sbar091]

@@ryantii2300 You're commenting on a KZbin video, welcome to social media.

[@chokkan7]

I was a young child when JFK was killed, but it was the topic of conversation among the adults for years afterwards. My father mentioned that LBJ and Hoover were the two with the most to gain from his demise; the deed was done in LBJ's old stomping grounds where everyone owed him a favor, and Hoover's FBI, the most vaunted detective agency in the world, was unable to turn up a single clue. My father also pointed out that Dallas averaged 6-8 murders a years at the time, but in '63 there were over 62 unsolved murders there. Coincidences?

[@martinsutlovich144]

Hoover Nixon and Dulles were in Dallas meeting at a house a few days before JFK's murder. LBJ arrived later and was told 'you will be the next President' meaning JFK was to be killed. LBJ related this news to his mistress who was in an upstairs bedroom at the time. This is in the BBC documentary on JFK's murder. Forget Any American network showing this kind of information!

[@aaronz7056]

Yes, coincidences.

[@amykauffman8501]

Exactly.. Everything’s a rich man’s trick- watch that 😮

[@aaronz7056]

@@amykauffman8501 Everything is a Rich Man's Trick is the stupidest piece of paranoid, lie-packed garbage ever made, showcasing one demonstrable liar and notorious grifter after another. When it starts insanely lecturing Officer Tippit was shot just to provide body parts for Kennedy's Washington D.C. autopsy, all you can do is laugh.

[@aaronz7056]

Everything is a Rich Man's Trick is the stupidest piece of paranoid, lie-packed garbage ever made, showcasing one demonstrable liar and notorious grifter after another. It's aimed squarely at complete idiots.

[@hummingbear88]

This discussion just scratches the surface of the discrepancies in the official version. All the missing/altered evidence makes it clear that powerful people with access to it wanted to muddy the waters so that the truth could never be discerned.

[@amykauffman8501]

Everything’s a rich man’s trick- watch that 😮

[@aaronz7056]

@@amykauffman8501 Lie packed, paranoid garbage showcasing one demonstrable liar and notorious grifter after another.

[@aaronz7056]

@@amykauffman8501 Enjoy my review of Everything is a Rich Man's Trick: Zero evidence for "eight riflemen." Zero evidence for any Dal-Tex Building shooter. Zero evidence for any storm drain assassin. Zero evidence for Niocletti as an assassin. Zero evidence police were waiting at the theater to kill Oswald, in fact they risked their lives to capture their suspect alive as per their duty and protected him from an angry mob. Zero evidence for the idiotic idea Officer Tippit was shot just to provide body parts for Kennedy's autopsy a thousand miles away. Zero evidence for a slug being found in the plaza grass, it's flatly contradicted by testimony of officers and witnesses present. The 3 tramps are Harold Doyle, John Gedney and Gus V. Abrams, they were ID'd that same day, cleared and released with no evidence against them, their arrest records existing to this day, and Doyle was interviewed on camera more than once. Direction a person's head goes on being shot is meaningless regarding what direction the bullet came from and all credible ballistic, medical, forensic, eyewitness and film evidence clearly demonstrate the shots all came from the sixth floor window, and from Oswald's rifle. Charles Crenshaw: demonstrable liar flatly contradicted by other doctors. Robert Groden: demonstrable liar and grifter so fraudulent he screens Zapruder's film at filmed lectures with a phony soundtrack full of bogus gunshots over it he never once tells the audience he's ripping off is a fake. Mark Lane: demonstrable con man, right-hand stooge to Rev. Jim Jones and had plenty of blood on his hands due to his actions regarding Jonestown, and officially condemned by two commissions for misleading them with conspiracy theories he refused to back up with evidence. Roger Craig: demonstrable serial liar whose claims were flatly and consistently contradicted by every other officer and witness present, by hard evidence, and, frequently, by himself, as he couldn't even keep his own on-the-record stories straight...

[@msimon6808]

I have seen video of the Secret Service standing down just before the shots were fired. They should have been all around his car. Peak Prosperity had it.

[@aaronz7056]

@@amykauffman8501 That video is the most lie-packed piece of paranoid garbage ever made, showcasing one demonstrable liar and notorious grifter after another.

[@rubentagaban8861]

By far the strangest aspect of the murder is the bungled autopsy and the fact that the autopsy doctors claimed there was no huge gaping hole in the back of JFK's head, when dozens of eye witnesses, beginning with SS agent Clint Hill, said there was huge hole with large chunks of brain matter missing from the back of Kennedy's head. Drs. Humes, Boswell & Finck, on the night of the autopsy, failed to connect the back wound to the throat wound. This connection was done post-autopsy to comport to the fact that they had more wounds than bullets... including Tague, standing by the underpass. The Drs were forced to recruit one bullet to enter the back, exit the throat, enter Connally's back, rip up his ribs, exit and wreck his wrist before burying itself in his left thigh, only to later gently roll back out on a Parkland gurney. What nonsense!

[@amykauffman8501]

Everything’s a rich man’s trick- watch that 😮

[@aaronz7056]

@@amykauffman8501 Yes, watch a video that lectures Officer Tippit was shot just to provide body parts for Kennedy's autopsy... LOL

[@aaronz7056]

@@amykauffman8501 Leaving aside that post is packed with lies, please enjoy my review of Everything is a Rich Man's Trick, lady. What the paranoids who made that piece of garbage don't tell you includes: Zero evidence for "eight riflemen." All credible evidence demonstrates the shots came from the Depository window and why oh why would anybody ever assume they would successfully frame this on a lone shooter as they fire from multiple directions with different guns and bullets? Zero evidence for any Dal-Tex Building assassin. Zero evidence Connally, Utely, Thomas, Dulles or Lansdale were part of any "conspiracy." Zero evidence for any storm drain assassin, it flatly contradicted by evidence. Zero evidence police were waiting at the theater to kill Oswald, in fact they demonstrably risked their lives to capture their suspect alive as per their duty and protected him from an angry mob outside. Zero evidence for this idiotic idea Officer Tippit was shot just to provide body parts for Kennedy's autopsy, both bodies were always firmly in custody, and when Air Force One landed at D.C. with Kennedy's body on board Tippit's was still lying on a slab back in Dallas Texas having slugs dug out of it. Zero evidence for a slug being found in the plaza grass, flatly contradicted by testimony of officers and witnesses. The 3 tramps are Harold Doyle, John Forrester Gedney and Gus V. Abrams, they were ID'd that same day, cleared and released with no evidence against them, their arrest records existing to this day, and Doyle was interviewed on camera more than once, never mind that, again, all credible ballistic, medical, forensic, eyewitness and film evidence clearly demonstrates the shots all came from the sixth floor window, and from Oswald's rifle. The direction a person's head goes on being shot is in fact meaningless regarding what direction the bullet came from, it's not like being punched by a fist, and anybody just watching the film for themselves will clearly see Kennedy suffer a massive exit wound exploding outward at the right temple, and nothing happening at the back of the head, both consistent with a shot from behind. Parkland doctors are seen on NOVA in 1988 examining the autopsy photos, which demonstrate the shots came from behind, and having no particular problem with them. Victims' violent reactions in Zapruder's film, 1-2 frames apart, also clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo, from behind. Charles Crenshaw: demonstrable liar flatly contradicted by the other doctors. Robert Groden: a demonstrable liar and con artist completely discredited on the stand at the O.J. Simpson civil trial, who gives his middle finger to J.D. Tippit's family as he accuses the man without evidence of being a conspirator so long as it suits his sick "theories," the pain his despicable words cause them be damned, and so shameless a fraud he screens Zapruder's film at filmed lectures with a phony soundtrack full of bogus gunshots over it he never once tells the audience he's ripping off is a fake. Mark Lane: a demonstrable liar and con artist soundly condemned by two commissions for misleading them with conspiracy theories he refused to back up with evidence when prodded, disgusted interview subjects (eg, John Connally, Charles Brehm, who described him as a "despicable liar") with his omissions and leading questions, and highly-paid right hand stooge to mass murderer Rev. Jim Jones, and had plenty of blood on his hands regarding Jonestown. Roger Craig: demonstrable serial liar whose claims are flatly and consistently contradicted by every other officer and witness present, by hard evidence, and frequently, by himself, as he couldn't even keep his own on-the-record stories straight. Other than that, the video is really onto something...

[@jamestang5015]

It's called a conspiracy not strange..

[@WarrioroftheWest7]

Even the Zacruder film shows blood, brain, and bone matter blasting out the back of JFK’s head.

[@originalcableguy]

i think epstein didnt kill himself

[@Checker222]

Cease your investigations!

[@jy9291]

Epstein isn't dead.

[@stuartgmk]

👍👍

[@ronniemurtagh1786]

You shouldn't think...it is not working for you!

[@jeanmank6342]

Ya think?

[@rickpearce4653]

Everyone keeps saying Oswald Was here, was there, went there, went here. Get real he didn’t have $$$ to move around like that . Oswald was Sent here or he was Sent there. I don’t think Oswald ever fired a single shot in Dallas .

[@donaldvonlintig8445]

Oh he did fire shots, a bunch of 'Hail Marys' as a distraction, from the real intent, the Grassy knoll

[@MrsThompson1]

Also, on that picture of him holding the gun, is it just me or does that Pic look kind of odd? Like why is he leaning to the side like that 🤔

[@davidbuddendorf991]

There were a few Oswald's

[@rickpearce4653]

@@MrsThompson1 Oswald said the photos were not him and a present day photograph expert said only from the middle of the chin up was Oswald .

[@MrsThompson1]

@@rickpearce4653 yes I know, that's why I was looking at the photo to see if it looked altered and to me the way the person is leaning is very unusual, it's kind of like the whole picture is leaning as oppose to just someone naturally leaning to a certain angle for a picture

[@rodneyspence7441]

There were a number of railroad workers-some standing on the overpass - who went to their graves saying that they saw shots from behind the fence on the grassy knoll.

[@paganphil100]

@rodneyspence7441: Correct......and their evidence has always been ignored.

[@pyhead9916]

Twenty-nine witnesses to the assassination died in mysterious ways!

[@TheAerovons]

Yeah. like heart attacks lol

[@jamesvaughan1999]

​@@TheAerovons No sir , murdered .....😮

[@aaronz7056]

Not true.

[@jamesvaughan1999]

@@aaronz7056 Only God knows.

[@TheAerovons]

@@jamesvaughan1999 Complete nonsense

[@rickysdadl4256]

It was real nice of the Dallas officer to get out of Ruby's way.

[@charleswest6372]

Yes, funny-!

[@LBNLDC1]

Oswald wasn’t on the Sixth floor when Kennedy was shot. He wasn’t at 10th and Patton when Tippit was executed. Oswald was as he described himself a patsy.

[@my1vice]

So where are the curtain rods?

[@JJ33438]

you are right - you are one of the few who has done your research!

[@LBNLDC1]

@@my1vice One person and one person only brought up curtain rods. If you choose to believe a single witness be my guest.

[@my1vice]

@@LBNLDC1 1. The coworker that drove him in knew about the rods and saw them on the back seat. 2. Another coworker saw Lee arrive with a slender package under his arm. 3. They found an empty slender package made from TSBD materials with Lee's fingerprint on it in the sniper's nest. 4. Ruth didn't have any spare curtain rods. 5. Lee's room in Dallas already had curtains. 6. If no curtain rods, why did Lee go back to Ruth's on a Thursday instead of Friday (something he never did in the five weeks he worked at TSBD).

[@lightningphoenix69]

@@my1viceThe curtain rods are up Wesley Buell Frazier’s ass. Do you know what Wesley did before he worked at the book depository? He sold curtains rods at a department store. When people lie they go with what they know. Human nature. Also, Wesley’s mom testified Lee had a sandwich in his pocket. That’s it. Just like the manager of the Texas Book Depository saw and testified to when Lee arrived at work by the loading docks.

[@sbm2903]

The most bizarre thing is the story of Ralph Leon Yates who picked up a hitch hiker who looked like Oswald on 20 Nov. The hitch hiker was carrying a package he said contained curtain rods and talked about the possibility of someone killing JFK with a rifle from a building. Records and witnesses show that Oswald was at work in the TSBD at that time & so it couldn't have been him. Yates dropped the hitch hiker off near the book depository & went back to work where he told the story to a co-worker. After the assignation, Yates reported the story to the FBI who didn't believe him because the hitch hiker couldn't have been Oswald and was evidence that contradicted the narrative that was being formed. Long story short, he was eventually committed to a mental institution and spent the rest of his life as a patient. You couldn't make this stuff up!

[@MountainMan.]

And then there's Jack Ruby, who shot Oswald. It was suspected he had mob ties and did it to shut Oswald up.

[@thecoondog56]

hahaha obviously..you know nothing about Ruby let alone anything about this assassination

[@PivotMasterES]

All part of a misinformation campaign. Very far lengths to go to make it seem all like it must be the real thing, but necessary.

[@sydnidowney3598]

@@MountainMan. and Ruby knew he had cancer and not long to live.

[@aaronz7056]

Oswald never attempted to blow any conspiracy to any cop, any member of his family, or to a live TV audience of millions.

[@aaronz7056]

"It was suspected..." and there's no EVIDENCE for it.

[@judythompson8227]

I think (and always have) that Oswald was set up. Maybe they gave him the gun, gave him directions, and said 'kid, we've got your back', then whoever 'they' were, took him out, once they had convinced everyone that oswald did it. When you think about it: the key players in that setup all died not long after Kennedy did. Oswald was filmed being openly led across an open doorway to another holding tank, and oh what a coincidence there's Jack Ruby juuuuust outside the door, he comes in and shoots Oswald. Ruby was, as I understand it, one of those guys who hangs around bars, police stations, etc. He was arrested and put in jail. Turns out, oh what a coincidence, he had stomach cancer and died soon after. Johnson couldn't wait and had himself sworn in at President on the plane. How eager can you get? It's fishy as hell and we may never know. it's been 60 years.

[@effexon]

so Jack Ruby sounds like Jeffrey Epstein of recent years. Shady yes but very likely not main man. They all seem to die soon suggesting someone else is calling shots. Why would any living creature kill themselves. Like JFK autopsy, back in 60s was very easy to lie "cancer" as cause of death as who could verify it.

[@elss8717]

The question to ask is: who benefits. As a 13 year old at the time I found the number of witnesses meeting their end pretty unsettling. I have never believed that LHO did anything. He was groomed.

[@gorillapermacuture]

The driver shot Kennedy with his left hand when the first shot didn't kill him. The guy that had that footage has since disappeared.

[@my1vice]

So then you would have to believe that the manager of TSBD is in on it. Because it was just a random choice that Lee was working in that building vs the one three blocks away.

[@effexon]

@@my1vice I always wondered in movies and tv series how easily secret agents could get jobs anywhere even short term.. when as regular job seeker, evne janitor or waittress job aint that easy, at least not at spesific timepoint (say 2 weeks 6months from now then quit).... things change a lot of FBI agent comes to force that contract. everything in life would be super easy if I could just decide all those details and other people just agree, never resist. that would be godmode life. In every country however, businesses have to obey authorities in those cases or face random vague consequences.

[@AmericanActionReport]

You mentioned that the presidential limousine's running boards were retracted. About ten years or so ago, I saw a KZbin video of Secret Service agents reacting to the order they had been given to retract the running boards. I don't recall at what point in the motorcade route the order was given, but the agents were stunned. One of them spread his arms and held out his hands, palms up, as of to say, " This is crazy! Why in the world would they want us to do that?"

[@susanyoung1600]

I saw that video. It was called The Men Who Killed Kennedy (or JFK) When the hands flew up like "what the hell?" I was just stunned. I was 10 when that happened and I remember my Dad saying "It was an inside job and Oswald was their patsy".

[@DonnalenaHeilpap]

Who is they and why would they have rule on this anyways that sounds crazy

[@kobusg7460]

Those running boards were way too dangerous for use by SS agents. Similar to expecting them to be stationed on a 20--degree roof.

[@janetphillips2875]

There were two agents who were told to stay there. If you read The Kennedy Detail, it says it was their lunchtime. 😂 Also, that poir agent who now says he found tgat bullet, was coerced to say he found it.

[@AmericanActionReport]

@@kobusg7460 More like a 15-degree roof. The ones the SS counter-snipers used looked more like 20-degree. As for running boards, I remember them, and they were called running boards for an obvious reason. At some point, somebody decided that that reason was too dangerous.

[@Tricia1969]

I don't think we will ever know for sure what really happened. I was 14 when the assassination happened. In 9 th period English class. The teacher sat at her desk, bent her head, and cried. It was a sad day for everyone.

[@7Steveski]

Don’t forget about Mac Wallace, whose fingerprint was found in the “sniper’s nest.” He was convicted of murder, but the judge, a friend of LBJ, let him off. Some call him LBJ’s hit man. Wallace died when he “lost control of his car” on a dry road.

[@franclin0]

@@7Steveski his print was not found anywhere in the book depository. That is a debunked myth.

[@aaronz7056]

"LBJ's hit man..." lol

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

Liar

[@garybrewster5657]

Are we to ignore Oswald’s prints. Palm prints on box at the 6th floor window location plus on the rifle? Oswald was guilty beyond ALL DOUBT

[@franclin0]

@garybrewster5657 they argue that Oswald worked there so naturally his prints would be on the boxes. They will look for any possible way to make Oswald seem innocent. Pathetic.

[@shirleyolivas1228]

Trump said he was going to release the Kennedy files and it’s my understanding that Mike Pompeo stopped him. I sure would love to have Mike explain why!

[@noitall13]

He was told, what happened to JFK can happen again!

[@MegaSkills9]

@@noitall13 President Carter was threatened if they released the ufo files. He waited to after he was Pres and put his own ufo info in his book. (The government hides a lot and controls every President.)

[@aaronz7056]

Trump couldn't care less about Kennedy, you, me, or anything except his own ass.

[@LordRegaI]

@@aaronz7056 ok 🤡

[@LordRegaI]

@@aaronz7056 whether that’s true or not the Biden administration & Kamala Harris are just as bad probably worse because they’re devious & deceitful in ways in which 45/46 has ever been. 😊❄️

[@davehopping7212]

There's been so much obfuscation that the specifics of who conspired with whom to perform what part of the plot will likely not be known until after every person alive on November 22 ,1963 has been in the ground a very long time. From today's vantage point, 61 years after the assassination the only question that can be answered definitively is "Who benefitted". The first name on that list is that of Vice-President Lyndon B. Johnson.

[@sigspearthumb3249]

And the CIA.

[@derrickshepherd3472]

Milking industrial copelex

[@derrickshepherd3472]

I love Vietnamese food here in America before the 1960’s

[@The_Dudester]

Old joke, but so true: What did LBJ do when the shots were fired that killed Kennedy? (Winces and puts fingers in ears).

[@davehopping7212]

@@The_Dudester IIRC there's footage of him ducking....

[@jamesvaughan1999]

I pray Trump finally releases the real identity of the killers. Oswald was and is an innocent martyr.😢

[@theeverseeingeye7290]

Trump is one of them! He's not releasing anything. The whole world is a show and he's one of their main lead actors. WAKE UP!

[@Jay-yu6rp]

Oswald was a patsy

[@philiprice7875]

and any modern profile of him would be "serial loser"

[@aaronz7056]

Is that why he was caught red-handed trying to shoot a cop, lied to police, refused to cooperate, and never attempted to blow any conspiracy to anybody?

[@bendale9646]

War is industry, jfk wanted world peace, something had to give

[@Jay-yu6rp]

@aaronz7056 of course he was caught red handed, a patsy isn't supposed to get away with it. Tell me how they knew it was him so fast, knew where he would be the whole time?magic bullet, second shooter theory not debunked etc. Etc.

[@Lewis-me7jr]

@@bendale9646exactly

[@lurx2024]

While I'm perfectly willing to believe that Oswald acted alone, the fact that Oswald belonged to both Pro and Anti Castro groups strikes me as a little odd. With Jack Ruby forever silencing Oswald, and Ruby , who had mob connections, shortly dying of cancer, is also difficult to process. An audio recording synced up to the Zapruder film gives a strong indication of a fourth shot being fired which suggests a second gunman.

[@badmanskill1112]

You still believe LHO acted alone? 😂 Come on. Do you need some book recommendations?

[@badmanskill1112]

Read the books '*** and the Unspeakable' by Douglass and 'Last Word' by Mark Lane. Its amazing anyone can still think that with so much evidence out there.

[@djf750]

@@badmanskill1112 Of course he acted alone. No evidence of a conspiracy exists. All evidence points to Oswald. Read CASE CLOSED and RECLAIMING HISTORY, they completely changed my mind

[@badmanskill1112]

@@djf750 Not true at all. Plenty of evidence exists. Read the books I mentioned. You still buy the propaganda.

[@lightningphoenix69]

@@djf750The only way you can believe that is if those were the only two sources of information you ever read. BULLSHIT.

[@JosephSpalliero]

The most important and disturbing question was why the individuals responsible for the JFK assassination were never caught or brought to Justice.

[@gbonkers666]

Well, name some names...

[@TtableWhey]

@@gbonkers666 The CIA. JFK had just fired John Foster Dulles and had vowed to splinter the CIA into a million pieces. The CIA are the only people who could pull this off and cover it up.

[@my1vice]

Because he is deceased.

[@patrickmorgan4006]

Well, the man responsible was caught, but he was then killed on national TV by Jack Ruby as he was being moved from Dallas Police Headquarters. We don't prosecute dead people, but he did receive justice in the form of a bullet to the abdomen.

[@mattolivier1835]

Because the gov't never brings itself to justice. What are you talking about? You don't make any sense.

[@Jonathan-dl4nb]

I really hope President Trump releases the JFK files.

[@Rosko3333]

He had a chance first time,he declined.

[@buntline1873]

So many holes in this story that i can't even know where to start.

[@TLJ1945]

The video is, essentially, about "holes" so I am not sure what your comment is implying.

[@sp00f34]

@@TLJ1945 grunge is an establishment plant. their sources are "politico" which means anything they say is essentially Useless.

[@johnwilliams3555]

So US politics played not part in it. I am surprised.

[@GordoGambler]

It's like a 1000 piece puzzle with no picture. I was 9 watching on TV thinking the bubble should have been on the Lincoln, then I was there in 2003. I just don't see how anybody could hide with a rifle behind that little fence in broad daylight, unless they actually were CIA sniper guys. How they would then disappear is another mystery. I walked up there. I wonder if RFK Jr was ever allowed in the actual 6th floor room, closed and sealed ever since. I think a more possible story is if the guy in the following car accidently fired when the driver hit the gas. The other shots weren't fatal for sure.

[@amykauffman8501]

Everything’s a rich man’s trick- watch that 😮

[@georgemalley6414]

The biggest give away that Oswald was a Patsy, Is that they sent the FBI, Secret Service, Dallas Police, and the CIA to a theater for someone not paying the ten cent admission.

[@TheAerovons]

They were looking for Tippets killer

[@LBNLDC1]

According to shoe salesman Johnny Brewer the man he saw on the street was 'acting suspiciously' before he sneaked into the Texas Theater. You know. Like the villain in an old silent movie. Grimacing, shifting his eyes back and forth, twirling his mustache, laughing maniacally while making furtive movements. The irony is that an hour or so earlier this same Oswald had been confronted on the second floor of the TSBD building by the gun wielding DPD Officer Marion Baker. Both Baker and Roy Truly described Oswald as acting calm and normal only 90 seconds after Kennedy had been shot. A few minutes after his confrontation with Baker, Oswald reportedly gave his taxi to a woman who arrived at the taxi stand after he did. So an hour after this Oswald was on the street in another part of town 'acting suspiciously'? Why? Either Brewer was helping the cops frame Oswald or the guy Brewer saw was an Oswald double who had been coached to behave in a manner likely to draw attention. Either way it wasn't Oswald on the street. Texas Theater employee Butch Burroughs and a member of the audience saw Oswald in the theater either before or while Tippit was getting shot. Both credible witnesses. The DPD could have found more among the theater patrons but they weren't interested in proving Oswald innocent. Quite the opposite.

[@TheAerovons]

@@LBNLDC1 Oswalds gun was proven to the one used to shoot Tippet. When arrested he said "It's all over now"....lol case closed.

[@TheAerovons]

@@LBNLDC1 "The foregoing evidence establishes that (1) two eyewitnesses who heard the shots and saw the shooting of Dallas Police Patrolman J. D. Tippit and seven eyewitnesses who saw the flight of the gunman with revolver in hand positively identified Lee Harvey Oswald as the man they saw fire the shots or flee from the scene, (2) the cartridge cases found near the scene of the shooting were fired from the revolver in the possession of Oswald at the time of his arrest, to the exclusion of all other weapons, (3) the revolver in Oswald's possession at the time of his arrest was purchased by and belonged to Oswald, and (4) Oswald's jacket was found along the path of flight taken by the gunman as he fled from the scene of the killing. On the basis of this evidence the Commission concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Dallas Police Patrolman J. D. Tippit."

[@LBNLDC1]

@@TheAerovons Any criminal lawyer will tell you that quantity is no substitute for quality with eyewitnesses. Who in your opinion was the most credible witness to Tippit’s murder or to the fleeing gunman?

[@metro143]

If the Babushka lady was smart. She would never identify herself. She should simply make copies of her movie and mail them to all major networks in the event of her death. To many people surrounded by this assassination have mysteriously died.

[@aaronz7056]

Who? Who "mysteriously died?" That list of witnesses dying suspiciously is a hoax created by a couple of grifting authors were everybody on it either had little or no connection to the case or else their causes of death were misreported to sound more "sinister."

[@AnubisDark]

they probably already got her in the first week

[@aaronz7056]

@@AnubisDark Who the heck is "they...?"

[@AnubisDark]

CIA, SS, Black Ops, dont know but they got her. That's why we never knew who ut was, she never came forward, no video​@@aaronz7056

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

No serious theorists bring her up.

[@RobKirbyson14]

Oswald was innocent. That's why he was murdered, probably in the ambulance. Dead men tell no tales.

[@geoffreylee5199]

Oswald comes out of interrogation with his face battered and bruised. Wonder how many questions were asked; that why no stenographer?

[@janetphillips2875]

He was punched at the theatre by McDonald and Rose

[@gabriel7664]

Another interesting thing to look into is "Oswalds phone call". He made a call to a former Cia guy. I don't remember all of the details but the authorities wouldn't allow the call to go through or something like that.

[@aaronz7056]

Oswald's face got battered during the scuffle in the theater, when he was caught red-handed trying to murder a police officer and fought so violently 3 officers were injured just disarming him.

[@aaronz7056]

@@gabriel7664 That story is a crackpot myth debunked by a couple of conspiracy authors no less.

[@ClassicBob100]

Captain Fritz said the rooom was tooo small to accomodate a stenographer

[@gleesonedward139]

Beverly Oliver is (was) the babushka lady. The camera she had was a Yashica prototype, not available in the U.S. at that time. Her film was confiscated by the FBI just a day or two after the assassination. It has never been made public. This video is correct in stating that none of JFK's secret service agents made a move to come to his aid or distract the shooter(s), even though they had six seconds to react. They should have been fired for their poor response (some were out drinking the night before, another Secret Service no-no). In some countries they would have been executed.

[@marusiaphillips4791]

The Babushka lady was Philipa Rothschild

[@TheMighty412]

Beverly Oliver's story has long ago been discredited.

[@pariskevghas6002]

Agents Ordered to Stand down....Dirty Agents....Dirty Agency....Deep State wants anybody they can't control GONE...Just like they did to Trump

[@TheMighty412]

Stop drinking the conspiracy kool-aid.

[@darrell6800]

please... she is not....dig deeper. Like Jean Hill - she's monetized the assassination

[@mts12270]

The only thing that you can say that is unquestionably true is that we don’t know (and never will) all the complete facts of exactly what happened

[@chrislair6832]

That little snippet in the video of Sammy the bull gravano is the exact things.Bugged me the most about this assassination. He was obviously hit from the front.I don't know how they could say any different

[@patrickmorgan4006]

With all due respect to Mr. Gravano, I've seen many tests done that showed that when the shot came from behind, the head reacted exactly as Kennedy's did.

[@Aowall351]

@@patrickmorgan4006with all due respect, its an insult to physics to say he was hit from behind… yes there were ppl in the dallas school book depository but the “exploding bullet” (kill shot) came from the front - as did the 1st shot that hit him in the throat…. There were multiple sniper teams that that day and LBJ changed the route. A finger print of “Mac wallace” lbi’s hitman was found in DSBD too

[@patrickmorgan4006]

@@Aowall351 You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. I'm curious about one thing. Do you think there was anyone there that day who wasn't firing at the limo? As for the route, no, LBJ did not change it. If you have proof that I am wrong about that, please reply with a link to a legitimate source.

[@bendale9646]

Parkland doctors say it all

[@bendale9646]

And they were there and saw it all

[@cactusjack2264]

I’m surprised Netflix didn’t create some sort of 10 part documentary about this lol

[@michaelsikora6739]

Netflix doesn't want the powers that still exist and were behind the assignation coming after them!! We lost a President AND a Country that day but 70% or more of this country doesn't care!!

[@MegaSkills9]

They should. One that showed that our own country had JFK killed so Johnson could take charge.

[@glenbarr8798]

Did anyone pick that up. How can you have a large exit wound in the back of the head when the shooter was behind him. Hmmm

[@thecoondog56]

you cant....because the shot came from behind ,so its not exit wound as much as anyone wants to say it is ....the exit wound was clearly the front ....where as it blew out part of his skull....i seriously can show you pictures of the entrance wound to back of his head ...and looks like a entrance wound without anyy doubt

[@aaronz7056]

Kennedy had a cratered entrance wound on the back of the head, as confirmed by the autopsy. Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead. Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there. Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos. Connally's said the shots came from behind. All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle. Kennedy is very clearly seen in Zapruder's film to suffer a massive exit wound exploding at the right temple, consistent only with a shot from behind.

[@glenbarr8798]

@@aaronz7056 yeah. You are proving my point. I am a hunter I know exit and entrance wounds.

[@RuthShelton-ou4id]

​@@thecoondog56 The 'mob -gangsters were behind & at least one was in front of the fence -- shot & killed President Kennedy. Even at the hospital they gave him the wrong blood type. Most of the folks that really did try to help Kennedy while in the hospital died from cancer. Probably due to a radioactive product that had been put in their fridge -- That was done to silence them. LBJ hated to be 'second' -- Won't say more because of YT censors. So much for 'freedom of speech' -- eh?

[@aaronz7056]

@@glenbarr8798 I just listed hard, demonstrable and credible evidence the shots came from behind.

[@ManuelTorres-gd5jp]

I was setting in front of our TV, That day change my life, my dad was a veteran ww2 S.S. BRZ 🏅🎖, all our family were Patriots we love our country. After that day we couldn't understand why our Government would Commit a coup against the President of the United States. Mr Trump release the rest of the documents. This will make America Great Again 👍

[@senseihitmanwayofkempo8305]

Those dang cameras always glithcin when poop happens!!!

[@MrBroofer]

Indeed...Poop happens, just as said substance occurs. ;-)

[@Lobonova]

Yes im pooping now

[@me3333]

They were the same cameras they used in Epstein's cell

[@davidcross8028]

When you have that kind of power, it's easy to switch cameras off at the right time. They did the same in Paris when Princess Diana was murdered. And she was silenced because she had done her duty in providing an heir and a spare and she knew too much and was likely to spill the beans on the Windsors.?

[@vadimnesen8060]

Every time I want to see something weird on my ring camera it glitches ...

[@5675492]

For me , two of the biggest red flags are , one , that Oswald defected to the USSR where among other things he divulged some low-level classified radar info and then was allowed to re-enter the US with no questions asked . That just doesn't happen , especially in the Cold War era . Just doesn't happen . Someone had some plans for that boy . The second red flag is that virtually everyone in Oswald's orbit was either in the CIA or had strong connections to the CIA . There was definitely some kind of operation going on there . Edit : wrote my comment before I watched the video - looks like I'm preaching to the choir here lol .

[@mizzutigerfan1]

Oswald worked for the CIA

[@aaronz7056]

Rubbish.

[@amykauffman8501]

Everything’s a rich man’s trick- watch that 😮

[@amykauffman8501]

@@aaronz7056 nope. Everything’s a rich man’s trick- watch that 😮

[@aaronz7056]

@@amykauffman8501 I have watched it, I hope you now enjoy my review of Everything is a Rich Man's Trick: Zero evidence for this stupid idea Officer Tippit was shot just to provide body parts for Kennedy's autopsy. When Air Force One landed at D.C. with Kennedy's body, Tippit's was still back in Dallas being autopsied. Zero evidence for any Dal-Tex Building assassin. Zero evidence for "eight riflemen." Zero evidence for Nicoletti as an assassin. Zero evidence Connally, Thomas, Utley, Dulles or Lansdale were part of any "plot." Zero evidence police were waiting to kill Oswald at the theater, in fact they risked their lives to capture their suspect alive as per their duty and protected him from a mob outside. Zero evidence for any storm drain assassin, in fact hard evidence flatly contradicts it. Zero evidence any slug was found in the plaza grass, Deputy Walthers explicitly testified nothing was found. The limo's windshield is still in the National Archives and its only damage is a crack caused by a bullet fragment that also damaged the chrome plating, from the inside, and the idea somebody was trying to frame this all on Oswald while standing in front of the car, firing through glass, and shooting Kennedy in the face is idiotic. Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo, from behind. Direction a person's head goes on being shot is meaningless regarding what direction the bullet came from, it's not like being punched by a fist. Autopsy shows the shots came from behind and Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos. 3 tramps are in fact John Forrester Gedney, Gus V. Abrams and Harold Doyle, they were ID'd that same day, cleared and released with no evidence against them, their arrest records existing to this day, and Doyle was interviewed on camera more than once. Charles Crenshaw: demonstrable liar flatly contradicted by other doctors. Mark Lane: demonstrable liar, con artist, grifter, fraud, soundly condemned by two commissions for misleading them with conspiracy theories he refused to back up with evidence, later right-hand stooge to Rev. Jim Jones, had blood on his hands regarding Jonestown. Robert Groden: demonstrable liar, con artist, fraud, grifter, such a blatant rip-off artist he screens Zapruder's film at filmed lectures with a phony soundtrack full of bogus gunshots slapped over it he never once tells his audience is a fake, gives his middle finger to the family of a decorated police officer slain in the line of duty as he opines away without evidence the man was a conspirator so long as it suits his sick "theories," the pain his despicable words cause them be damned. Roger Craig: demonstrable serial liar: demonstrable serial liar whose claims were consistently and flatly contradicted by every other witness and officer present, by hard evidence, and frequently, by himself, as he couldn't even keep his own stories straight. I'm delighted you found the film so eye-opening and revealing.

[@miew8204]

The most interesting thing about Oswald is. That the American secret service claimed that they could find no ties to governments or spies or what not linking back to him. It was stated that he acted alone and on his own accord. However, the Dutch secret services (AIVD) spotted him multiples times in a hostel in Amsterdam. A hostel that was known as a meeting point for international spies. because of this fact that hostel was under constant surveillance of the AIVD. They had no idea who Oswald was. He just showed up there one day. And kept returning multiple times in the following months. until he never showed up again. They identified and researched his information for awhile. and found it odd that he as an U.S. citizen lived in Russia. and was now out of the blue involved with spies? This happened in the months leading up to Kennedy's assassination. The AIVD "knew" but had no clue what they were actually looking at. Of course secret services is not simply gonna go around telling others what they "know". Especially when you have only half the story. This information was released at some point. Here in the Netherlands it is common knowledge. It is not hidden or disputed in any way. however this news never reached American on a public level. There is a Dutch man who wrote multiple books about this. Most of them in Dutch. There is however one that got recently translated and released in the U.S. I would urge everyone to fact check me on this one. Because it is shockingly true. It gives so much more insight into how the assassination of Kennedy was a inside job to some extend. However the actual how to the why and who was involved and who was not, is not clarified by this information. The information by itself does make for an awful interesting read, if you are interested in this case. *Edit. I think it was a Rotterdam hostel instead of Amsterdam. The Author is called Perry Vermeulen.

[@adriagalvarez]

Do you know the authors name?

[@miew8204]

@@adriagalvarez Perry Vermeulen. Via Rotterdam naar Dallas

[@JustinPogue]

Thanks for this! I look forward to reading the Dutch angle

[@nolongerblocked6210]

It's nice to know that America doesn't have a stranglehold on people who believe stuff without proof

[@Hansenvision]

51 experts agree

[@ophthojooeileyecirclehisha4917]

thank you so much for truth reporting, hard work, science, and generosity

[@AD-uk6bt]

Why is Oswald getting murdered missing here?

[@mattolivier1835]

Exactly. Jack Ruby, a strip club owner and drug dealer, had such a big heart that he couldn't wait for legal justice and had to punish Oswald. That makes perfect sense. NOT! Ruby actually called in a bomb threat the day before to try to get out of his job to kill Oswald.

[@GBOAC]

@@mattolivier1835 that's not why he did it, at least according to him, he didn't want to put Jackie through the ordeal of the trial.

[@davidcross8028]

Do not take too much notice of this video. If it really did give anything away, it would not be on You Tube. Anyone who can kill an American President and get away with it for over 60 years can easily stop You Tube.

[@thelonegerman2314]

Patsy

[@aaronz7056]

@@mattolivier1835 If they need Ruby to take out Oswald, it follows somebody just as urgently has to take out Ruby.

[@darkomtobia]

Anyone with practical hunting/shooting experience instantly knows the final shot was from in front and right, not behind.

[@markfischer5068]

Not

[@EugeneHill-v9c]

The shots came from the rear the book depository it's been proven go back to ur hunting your not qualified hawkeye

[@colleengeier9994]

Everytime someone explains how his body moved the way it did with a shot from behind, it makes no sense. Counterintuitive

[@TH-1207]

It will not surprise me if we eventually learn that LBJ had something to do with it.

[@RW_TractorPilot]

LBJ had EVERYTHING to do with it

[@sarahnewcomb738]

I think he did to

[@tomboore8357]

RIP JFK

[@2realformost]

What I still can’t understand is how Jack Ruby was able to walk right up to LHO and shoot him dead despite heavy security from Dallas police. This man allegedly killed a sitting President and he wasn’t protected better than that?

[@alpha-omega2362]

it was a set up...Ruby was at the telegraph office which was maybe 30 feet away from a side door to the Police Dept. waiting for a signal from the third floor window that they were moving Oswald, whereupon he walked across to the side door and was let in and walked down the stairs into the garage and was in place to shoot Oswald... the horn honking was his signal to move and shoot Oswald as he walked out the door.

[@charleswest6372]

Another plot.

[@martinsutlovich144]

And the cameras were rolling the whole time!

[@GerryJensen]

LBJ having JFK'S body taken to D.C. the photo of LBJ being sworn in on plane in front of Jackie, a man smiling as LBJ is sworn in

[@aaronz7056]

It was important to get Johnson back to D.C. if this was the opening volley of WWIII, he wouldn't leave Jackie behind, she wouldn't leave her husband's body. It was important to swear him in to show the public the government was still strong and functioning. Congessman Thomas was just trying to be reassuring at a high stress moment, there is no evidence against him.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

That infamous photo is "The Wink". The man doing the winking at LBJ was known as "Halliburtons man in Congress" , Congressman Albert Thomas. Immediately after the JFK assassination LBJ ramped up the Vietnam war and Halliburton made billions

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

That photo is called "The Wink"

[@aaronz7056]

@@PendeltonWhiskey What the heck has this got to do with the actual evidence, which clearly points at Oswald?

[@aaronz7056]

@@PendeltonWhiskey What the heck has this got to do with the actual evidence, which clearly points at Oswald?

[@JoelBaxter-rj7uq]

The FBI even said that it wasn't Oswald in Mexico City

[@nigelliam153]

The Russian embassy said the person claiming to be Oswald could not understand Russian, the real Oswald was fluent in.

[@thelonegerman2314]

This Pr*ck is a Media CIA Misinformation propaganda 😂😂😂😂😂 😮 and The Only People who Don't know who killed JFK is the CIA 😂😂😂🎉

[@JoelBaxter-rj7uq]

Well they asked the security people in the Cuban embassy and the Russian embassy and the the footage they had from both and the footage showed that it wasn't Oswald also because he was somewhere else on those dates.

[@franclin0]

@nigelliam153 who speaks fluent Russian is very much a matter of opinion.

[@franclin0]

@JoelBaxter-rj7uq or they didn't record the right person. They only had a description. If someone else went in and was recorded, they very well could've just confused that person. We are dealing with the government, and we are dealing with people who in fact make mistakes.

[@redalert2834]

I think the connection between the JFK assassination and September 11th is strong and extremely interesting, even if Americans still haven't noticed the connection and figured out what's going on.

[@genelawrence4939]

What connection please?

[@crintraian]

And now in 2024 we have another bumbling of the secret service and another set of coincidences

[@billmarsh1746]

Yes, but this years' incompetance may be largely due to DEI.

[@crintraian]

@@billmarsh1746 but isn't it our strenght?

[@joshuakennedy8218]

The Cia and the mob also killed him. It was an inside job. Conspiracy theory

[@donaldvonlintig8445]

Same shit, different day

[@sydnidowney3598]

@@billmarsh1746 you’ve been led to believe that DEI means INCOMPETENCE when in actuality it means promoting someone who is competent but in the past would have been passed over simply because of their race.

[@ElProblemo1]

7:01 everybody involved is gone. There is no reason to keep anything classified. If it was the Soviets, there would’ve been retaliation (a war) Oswald may have shot, but he wasn’t the only one (back and to the left) if it was Cubans, there would’ve been a war. So there are only two reasons I can think of 1. It was one of the three letter agencies. Or 2. It was Israeli intelligence because Kennedy was trying to stop them from developing nukes. Which in my opinion, they don’t need because they are surrounded by their enemy. They have proven they are not against assassinating public figures the “state” of Israel was still very young back then they hadn’t figured out the nuances yet and had to do it in a very public way. It would make sense since RFK was got by a “Palestinian” they go hand-in-hand. 7:20 Dr Weicht has a great video on it

[@ryanhogge8]

Bingo. Don't forget Jack Rubenstein and his connections, motives for silencing LHO.

[@tims8603]

A lot of people hated JFK. He was shaking up the powers that be. He wanted to pull our 'advisors' out of Vietnam. The military industrial complex wanted to escalate and make lots of money. LBJ also hated JFK. I believe he had something to do with it. The mob felt betrayed by John because they helped him get elected then Bobby went after them.

[@freeenergynow]

Who's the Daddy? George W Bush is still alive, still with a vested interest in keeping the dirty, bloody hands of his pappy, George H W Bush out of the limelight.

[@candicehoneycutt4318]

There's plenty of reason to keep that stuff classified. Think logically for a minute, friend. If they just came out and said JFK was intentionally killed by the deep state (we all know the official story is bull), it would open a near infinite can of worms when people start asking questions and speculating on what else might have been done.

[@nolongerblocked6210]

I wouldn't call that thinking 😂😂

[@penski5969]

Lee was the fall guy and/or there were several shooters? 1:15

[@aaronz7056]

All credible medical, ballistic, forensic, film and eyewitness evidence demonstrate the shots came from the window. It's utterly implausible anybody would assume they'd frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions. Your fall guy, just for starters, lied to police, refused to cooperate, was ID'd as murdering a police officer, was caught red-handed trying to shoot another police officer, and never attempted to blow any conspiracy to anybody.

[@warrendietzel1953]

@@aaronz7056 Not sure how you figure that since Kennedy was shot twice from the front.

[@warrendietzel1953]

@@aaronz7056 Witnesses to the Tippit murder didn't actually describe Lee Harvey Oswald as the killer.

[@warrenpuckett4203]

Zapgruder film, Hmm. 30 some years later, Hmmm. Well Kennedy's head must have been as dense as the moon. It cratered on the impact side. Just like a moon crater. A. I shoot a deer in the head. B. I don't like tracking it down. C. I shoot too eat. D. Never saw pieces of deer skull fly in my direction. Or JFK was just a glitch in the matrix.

[@aaronz7056]

@@warrendietzel1953 Here is how I figured it out. All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle. Kennedy is very clearly seen in Zapruder's film to suffer a massive exit wound exploding at the temple and absolutely nothing at all happening at the back of the head, both consistent only with a shot from behind. Connally's said the shots came from behind. Autopsy shows the shots came from behind. Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos when they examined them on NOVA in 1988. Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead. Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there. Throat wound was demonstrably an exit wound. View of the entry wound on Connally's back would demonstrably have been blocked by Kennedy's body, meaning the same bullet has to have gone through both of them, and the only way it could do that, is by exiting at Kennedy's throat. Bullet recovered from the stretcher is badly crushed at the nose. That condition is consistent with going through Kennedy without hitting bone, exiting at his throat, slowing and tumbling on leaving him, then broadsiding its way through Connally's ribs, as medical and forensic evidence clearly demonstrate. Victims' wounds, throat exit wound included, demonstrably line up on a trajectory, tracking back to the window. It's utterly implausible anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing away from multiple, nearly opposite, directions with different guns and bullets.

[@jack.aluminumheadshavingsf2839]

James Files interview is very interesting as he describes his role as the shooter behind the grassy knoll.

[@irataylor7102]

On his deathbed E. Howard Hunt, Jr. (1918-2007), former CIA officer, spy novelist, and co-leader of the Nixon White House ‘Plumbers’ and later ‘Watergate burglars’ in 1971-1972, allegedly ‘confessed’ on an audio recording organized by his son St. John Hunt, that he WAS present in Dallas on November 22, 1963 and was part of the ‘rogue CIA’ team who ‘might’ have participated in the JFK assassination, although he claimed to have been a support person only and was NOT an active shooter. I do NOT recall that he ‘confessed’ to being one of the ‘three tramps’ photographed by newsmen and briefly detained by Dallas PD on 11/22/1963. he and two other men were found hiding in a rail car below the shooting scene

[@patrickmorgan4006]

You are aware that Woody Harrelson's father was one of the 3 tramps? He was. The identities of all 3 are known and not hard to find.

[@mattolivier1835]

"Rogue CIA"? I don't think so son. They were CIA however. Not rogue though as you say.

[@aaronz7056]

@@patrickmorgan4006 You are aware the tramps are Harold Doyle, Gus Abrams and John Forrester Gedney? They were ID'd that same day, cleared and released with no evidence against them, their arrest records existing to this day. Doyle was interviewed on camera more than once. Never mind that all credible ballistic, medical, forensic, film and eyewitness evidence clearly demonstrate the shots all came from the sixth floor window anyway.

[@randyharris3175]

Yes and I seen Elvis last night😂

[@randyharris3175]

​@@patrickmorgan4006His father was not one of the three tramps.

[@rossbabcock3790]

I was 6 when this happened. Nothing about this made sense.

[@providencefreedom6079]

All the adults around me in 1971 told me to vote for Kennedy if he ever ran again? I should vote for him! Everyone was very passionate about it. I didn't understand then. I do now. Did they tell you that too?

[@LS-ei7xk]

Murder never makes sense.

[@LS-ei7xk]

@@providencefreedom6079 No. But they did tell me to vote on the Democratic ticket.

[@providencefreedom6079]

@@LS-ei7xk He was a democrat all his life. They won't let him in because he is the LION and they like mice.

[@RichardM333]

JFK could only have been killed in one of three ways: By Oswald, by a conspiracy, or by accident. If you do the research, it will all make sense. Start by reading Mortal Error by Bonar Menniger.

[@Fat12219]

Poor Mr Kenned never had a chance 😢😢 sad 😢

[@sigspearthumb3249]

I guess he learned too late, that you don't threaten the CIA...

[@BrokenValentine-333]

@@sigspearthumb3249 Or sleep with their wives..

[@bobsmith-y3j]

@@sigspearthumb3249 ....and is brother learned to never back stab organized crime.

[@sigspearthumb3249]

@@bobsmith-y3j I wish I could recall what I wrote that you're replying to, because KZbin is hiding my own comment from me.

[@karmad4491]

Oswald did not kill JFK.

[@marsh3626]

This we all know

[@rightpath7780]

CIA PERIOD

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

Proof?

[@rightpath7780]

@@DouglasHale-od8ys if you research extensively, the CIA is behind so much. It’s not good

[@rightpath7780]

@@DouglasHale-od8ys look up James files, hit man hired by the CIA. Truth

[@christopherdoyle4129]

Hadn't Kennedy fired a bunch of CIA 'employees' since starting his term??

[@aaronz7056]

No doubt you'll now explain how "the CIA" safely approaches scores of witnesses, police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, pathologists, ballistics experts, Oswald family members, whole commissions, the D.A., the Chief Justice, etc., and persuades them all to obey illegal orders and bend over backwards making themselves all eternally loyal accessories to murder and treason, yes?

[@robertmilroy8506]

For a video alleging to be based on 'facts', it is astounding that only 16 seconds into the video, we are presented with a terrible, yet common oversight that is ironically an obvious non-fact. Claiming that Oswald was the assassin is highly misleading as he was never tried or proven to be guilty in a court of law. Like it or not, that's a fact!

[@9Ballr]

Being guilty of a crime and being found guilty in a criminal trial are two different things. The facts do show that Oswald was guilty.

[@robertmilroy8506]

@@9Ballr I had no idea facts were based on presumption . But do carry on.

[@9Ballr]

@@robertmilroy8506 Oswald killed JFK, and the facts show this. Again, whether someone is convicted of a crime is not the same thing as whether someone actually committed a crime.

[@paulholbrook7315]

@@9Ballr Are you a bot?...Or are you really that incredibly naive?.....

[@9Ballr]

@@paulholbrook7315 Believing in a conspiracy when the evidence doesn't show there was a conspiracy is naive. But go ahead, tell me how the evidence shows there was a conspiracy.

[@2handsomeforlaw]

We don't know Oswald did it!

[@djf750]

YES WE DO

[@MHanes-m4f]

​Woody harrelson's father admitted on his death bed he killed him and that jfk wasnt gonna make it outta texas.. him and eleven other hitmen took the contract...smoking acres the movie was based around that hit​@@djf750

[@motorphina]

​@djf750 sure if you ignore all the evidence and the house committee on assasination and the part where oswald was clearly a cia agent and was sent to russia and how when he got arrested and was "given" his one phonecall he tried to call his CIA handler in north carolina (910 area code, so between raliegh and wilmington at that time) the operator was ordered to make sure the call didn't go through.. the women at the switchboard felt odd about the order and wrote down the number which is how we know thats who he was not allowed to call.

[@sigspearthumb3249]

​@@djf750If you ignore the fact that he tested negative for gunpowder via a paraffin test, and no fingerprints were found on the supposed assassin rifle until they tested it again, after Oswald was silenced by Jack Ruby, and then they just happened to find a palm print they didn't find before. Gullible much?

[@readie10145]

The lawyer proved it 50+ years that he never shot any gun

[@thehackmusician]

the weirdest thing, weird in the fact that no one seems to find it weird, is the back of his head healing itself.

[@michaelburgess3779]

The strangest thing about the assassination was JFKs back brace.

[@elss8717]

If he had not worn a back brace he might have survived it. He could not slump down because of it.

[@leethorp2164]

They should have done the autopsy at Gen. Reed hospital. The U.S. army has way more experience with gunshot wounds than the navy does.

[@rubentagaban8861]

Dr Finck was a highly experienced and well respected Army surgeon. Humes & Boswell had no experience on gun shot autopsies, but Finck more than made up for their inexperience.

[@paulskinback717]

This all looks strangely familiar

[@providencefreedom6079]

I thought the same.

[@Dinurt11]

Trump is Erica's new fake Kennedy that's why

[@dantyler6907]

LBJ's hands are ALL over this...😮

[@jetcat132]

No they’re not…

[@StephanieSoressi]

PLEASE STOP with that background musical chime repeating over and over and over and over and over and over and over! It is maddening!

[@sbar091]

Gonna watch this real quick before it mysteriously disappears from KZbin forever.

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

Yeah, like they made Stone's movie disapp... hey wait a minute.

[@hellskitchen10036]

Joke..right?

[@cedricjoshuapayne]

This entire video stinks of Operation Mockingbird.

[@badmanskill1112]

It certainly does. It's a Limited Hangout for sure.

[@lightningphoenix69]

Amen. 👋 Hi agents !

[@gorillapermacuture]

Yep! Narrative...

[@thelonegerman2314]

This Pr*ck is a Media CIA Misinformation propaganda 😂😂😂😂😂 😮 and The Only People who Don't know who killed JFK is the CIA 😂😂😂🎉

[@thelonegerman2314]

This Pr*ck is a Media CIA Misinformation propaganda 😂😂😂😂😂 😮 and The Only People who Don't know who killed JFK is the CIA 😂😂😂🎉

[@potter514]

Great video as usual.

[@johnboyle4115]

Even if you believe and that’s the only thing that any of us can do because we weren’t there we weren’t on the sixth floor, even if you believe that Oswald was involved in the shooting when you referred to him as you do in your KZbin clip, he’s the alleged assassin. He’s never been the assassin unless he went on trial and the fact that he was killed two days afterwards means that there is no trial so he will forever be the alleged assassin, come on dude you seem smart enough to get that right.

[@rbelf001]

@@johnboyle4115 you didn't mention that Oswald didn't know how was being charged with Kennedy's assassination. His arraignment was 11:30 PM. His indictment was never signed.

[@aaronz7056]

Fine he's "the alleged assassin.... with a mountain of evidence for his guilt..."

[@johnboyle4115]

@@aaronz7056 and aaron misses the point.

[@aaronz7056]

@@johnboyle4115 No I don't, unless you are saying there's "no point" in mentioning the mountain of evidence for his guilt.

[@johnboyle4115]

@@aaronz7056 are you talking about the mountain of evidence that the Warren commission put together? Are you the only person on the planet who doesn’t know that the Warren commission is a sham?

[@danr1920]

My problem is there are four, five or more theories that are plausible. So you need to debunk all but one. My Dad thought VP Johnson had it done. Johnson was from Texas. We'll never know without a doubt, including the Warren Commission Report.

[@aaronz7056]

How about using the actual EVIDENCE?

[@GrandpaTom]

I agree with your Dad

[@LebanonBologna40]

That no one seems to really care even though those documents are still heavily redacted, which means they’re still relevant today

[@gordonteats298]

HIRED GUN by BRIDE a great song for everyone to look up

[@francisphillips53]

It’s creepy all the witnesses who knew key things, died in spooky ways. 😢😢

[@aaronz7056]

"Mysterious deaths list of witnesses" is a hoax where everybody on it either had little or no connection to the case or else their causes of death were misreported to sound more "sinister."

[@RichardM333]

Burying the truth as deeply as possible.

[@aaronz7056]

@@RichardM333 "Mysterious deaths list of witnesses" is a hoax started by a couple of grifting conspiracy authors where everybody on it either had little or no connection to the case or else their causes of death were misreported to sound more "sinister."

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

Liar

[@CSGATI]

So the files were never realesed after the long delay no freedom of info there it really stinks.

[@RickyIcecubes]

All these historic assassination videos coming out at light speed.

[@Lobonova]

This happened years ago i dont know how that is light speed

[@providencefreedom6079]

I love it! Much needed ❤

[@susanletsch-dz5oq]

I don't believe it was Oswald!💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@Pitch_Kartimartinuh]

JFK had recently announced plans for the government to start issuing currency rather than the Federal Reserve (which is neither Federal nor a Reserve but rather a PRIVATELY owned central bank run for profit by an elite family) Ghadaffi was also killed after refusing central banking.

[@mitchellreid4205]

Very important point

[@GregWampler-xm8hv]

True and one of many motives for the military industrial complex to murder him. He was also moving to pull out of Vietnam and cool cold war tensions with Russia and Cuba. Yeah I'd say monumental threat of cutting off all those BILLIONS flowing in. Riddle me this: How much evil can you buy with BILLIONS $$?

[@CoachReins1]

Assassination was 30 days after he ordered withdrawal of military advisors from Vietnam. Johnson rapidly escalated the war after he took office.

[@georgecollins9388]

This was another criminal act in 1913 whereby a swindle succeeded to create a federal reserve actually controlled and factually owned by the government. It became owned and controlled by the Deep State.

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

Liar

[@hankaaron3942]

Nobody thinks Oswald did it lol

[@johncronin7875]

Errr yes they do lol

[@sigspearthumb3249]

​@@johncronin7875Yeah, naive and gullible people.

[@Scotsman1969]

@@johncronin7875 Only people who know nothing of the case. Ignorance is no excuse.

[@JamesAnderson-jv7mn]

​@@johncronin7875Yeah, LOTS of You Idiots around!!

[@aaronz7056]

Yeah, only those idiots who study the actual evidence and not crackpot conspiracy sites.

[@cahg3871]

Another piece of information you left out was that the route Kennedy took to get to Daley Plaza was changed at the last minute.

[@davidlauder-qi5zv]

And who told you that?

[@LS-ei7xk]

@@davidlauder-qi5zv It's common knowledge. I've seen it mentioned before.

[@LS-ei7xk]

Dealey Plaza.

[@davidlauder-qi5zv]

@@LS-ei7xk WHERE did you see it mentioned before?

[@aaronz7056]

Parade route was never changed, accurately described in the newspapers from the beginning.

[@akaLids77]

Oswald didn’t do it. It was James Sutton (or James Files).

[@Starfishtroopers]

Oswald has a bigger social media record then Crooks...

[@ericericson3535]

The only thing that bothers me is the presence of Jack Ruby in all this. Why him? Why was he allowed to get so close to Oswald?

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

He knew all of the officers, and they knew him. Plus, as he walked in past the officers into the garage, they yelled at him to stop but he just kept walking and then it was all a terrible coincidence. The real problem was they wanted to use an armored car, but it couldn't fit in the garage, so they were going to walk him through the garage instead of out a door and immediately into a patrol car.

[@jerrystark465]

@@ericericson3535 Because of his mob connections & much of the police in the back pocket of organized crime.

[@Aaron-bb9rt]

DB Cooper and JFK Assassination. The two great mysteries of the 60's.

[@TomWilson-k4v]

J f k was in the process of disempowering the federal reserve bank corporation from printing fraudulent dollars that get lent to the government has debt on the public.

[@PA_Woody]

Except D.B. Cooper hijacked the jet November 24, 1971. But still a mystery.

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

Only if you ignore 40 volumes of evidence.

[@DouglasHale-od8ys]

@@cartermckee8629 What?

[@PA_Woody]

@@cartermckee8629 D.B. Cooper hijacked the jet November 24, 1971.

[@darkside7802]

“The entire thing” Saved you 16 minutes.