I remember this series well. Was 16 at the time. In terms of British documentary film making it is second only to The World At War. Absolutely outstanding.
@Venmaylove3 ай бұрын
This is nowhere near the league of WAW and the 1963 prequel which was concerning the Great War. Its like comparing a disgusting Staffordshire bull terrier and a filthy road man holding it to a gracious cute Labrador with a lovely kind family person that reads Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn instead of drinking estrogen juice down the boozer and cheering on millionaire athletes that hate them and their country
@trebor97112 жыл бұрын
10yrs after this programme it did EXPLODE.
@andygee87163 жыл бұрын
I've never been robbed once by a hoodie but thousands of times by a suit and tie!
@aj13elly3 жыл бұрын
Cracking statement
@sbrown69er3 жыл бұрын
English frank! 👊
@marks2383 жыл бұрын
And had your freedom and rights denied by a suit and a tie too no doubt!
@andygee87163 жыл бұрын
@@marks238 standard procedure by them.
@marks2383 жыл бұрын
@@andygee8716 Absolutely Andy :)
@quack4373 жыл бұрын
Got love the calm reasonable approach the officers put on fot the camera ... Every other day the kick the shit out of you
@Al-to7qk3 жыл бұрын
👍and that's the truth couple ok rest are pure dogs
@09weenic3 жыл бұрын
32:24 - bloody hell it’s Ronnie Barker from Porridge 😂
@flemwad3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 great shout I lolled
@christopherjamesjames16823 жыл бұрын
I remember this from the 80 s as that guy predicted . The roof did go .and the biggest riot in prison history .
@howey9353 жыл бұрын
Yep they took it until 1990 then as you say the roof went.
@christopherjamesjames16823 жыл бұрын
@@howey935 because they would nt listen to prisoners grievances .the did nt then 3 to a cell .no tv or phone then .using bucket .education.work minimal tension brews hence BIGGEST RIOT IN PRISON HISTORY .
@howey9353 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjamesjames1682 i remember it very well it was just after my 16th birthday.
@christopherjamesjames16823 жыл бұрын
@@howey935 1 qas 32
@howey9353 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjamesjames1682 seems like yesterday.
@TS-12673 жыл бұрын
...I remember Manchester Tart, Sunday Dinner Leeds 1984...🙏
@Rob_Walker.3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣
@waynesilverman30488 ай бұрын
Armly
@kollusion13 жыл бұрын
Strangeways is a very intimidating structure, from both the inside, as well as the out. Those echoing sounds, doors slaming, voices etc, send chill's thru your soul! That riot was long over due watching this.
@paulthrutner91143 жыл бұрын
I've been to jail 3 times. The main thing they needed to change was the slop out but except for that you do the crime you do the time.
@edwardeeles41833 жыл бұрын
Old Skool bang up 40 years! Thanks for post
@rabc15583 жыл бұрын
I stayed there in the 80s. I had such a lovely time with all the guys it was just like been in the scouts. Dib Dib Dib and up yer pipe was the war cry. I do miss them good old times 😁😁
@rick182z3 жыл бұрын
u miss sloping out
@bertiescuntero58723 жыл бұрын
the conversation between the screw & the con 20mins 50secs in reminds me of a scene out of Scum. (Think it was Archer & a Scouse screw.. lol classic.) & the con in this part of the documentary was very prophetic because 10 years later Strangeways rioted & took over.
@BANE81support3 жыл бұрын
Amazing insight into con life back in the days, not much has changed bar the wages, spending limit and slop out. I can't believe a bunch of Law students just knock on the front door and gain access, that baffled me. At age 19 I was sentenced to 3 years for months (2009) I served it in 3 prisons, HMPYOI Castington (before it became Northumberland), then shipped to HMP Durham then to HMPYOI Deerbolt and I can tell you now the conditions these men had to endure must have been harsh as fuck compared to now. I honestly think they should bring these conditions back sometimes, the majority of con's these days have it easy (as did ii), very little deterrent and very little stopping people going back unless you change your mindset like I did. Brilliant watch.
@brendancronin37963 жыл бұрын
I agree with you ...I was in Armley and various other prison in the late 90s and it was far too easy ....
@ackerjawaka19663 ай бұрын
Yup I was in strangeways 3 times during the 80s, Risley, Walton, Preston, Detention Centre and a couple of borstals and every one was like a youth club, it is no punishment at all just a bit boring sometimes 😜
@mancunianace84283 жыл бұрын
I guess this was a precursor for the 90s roof riots. Thx for posting.
@operatorjeffdeathstar77597 ай бұрын
Yep, that's why it's called 'punishment'...Lol
@labazs19642 жыл бұрын
those people who were visitors were so snobbish and so far removed from reality and the real world all they do is make it worse
@Fercough8 ай бұрын
Only the ones interviewed. You can volunteer to be one.
@strangboww3 жыл бұрын
I remember being there in 1987 for a month before going to wymott.it was grim then !
@paulspydar3 жыл бұрын
just shows how much the demographics have changed in only 40 years ,
@kollusion13 жыл бұрын
Only! I'm amazed when I look back at the 80s now, it looks like a foreign world.
@David-cm4ok3 жыл бұрын
That's a polite way to say it.
@slowdivebreeze13 жыл бұрын
Did blacks and Asians only start going to prison in the 90’s?
@Spaz-x2r10 ай бұрын
You're right of course but don't forget this is up North. I spent a fair few years in HMP HULL 2000-2012 and it was just about all White lads.
@garypowell30583 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this whilst I was sat in there lol
@rick182z3 жыл бұрын
living the dream
@MUSIC4TRUTH....3 жыл бұрын
2020 and we all live in strangeways.
@davesaunders33343 жыл бұрын
I don't. I live in Somerset.
@MUSIC4TRUTH....3 жыл бұрын
@@davesaunders3334 Sorry to hear that.
@wayneandrews92983 жыл бұрын
@@davesaunders3334 Somerstrangeset ....
@davesaunders33343 жыл бұрын
@@MUSIC4TRUTH.... Oh, it's lovely. Green rolling hills, clean air, a real sense of freedom and liberty. Sounds better than wherever you are. You should consider making some lifestyle changes if you have the sensation of being imprisoned when you're actually not. I reckon you should probably smoke a bit less weed and maybe find yourself a nice girl or boyfriend. Life will seem less paranoid and bleak then. Hope this helps! Good luck. :)
@marks2383 жыл бұрын
Very true Gary
@dirkdiggler56223 жыл бұрын
K-wing slop outs lovely and the smell of Boddingtons Bitter, The cream of MCR
@DasTubemeister3 жыл бұрын
I expect that a lot of young people at the time thought that being in prison would be like the tv show Porridge. They got a nasty shock.
@malterwitty54333 жыл бұрын
Lots looked much older in those days
@speakertreatz3 жыл бұрын
not if they'd seen Scum first
@Venmaylove3 ай бұрын
@@speakertreatzradio thieves beware
@SiLoJayLo Жыл бұрын
@23:41 - "prisoners who attempt suicide are stripped naked"???? What sort of institution is this??! I can understand the state's thought processes, there, 'cos I grew up in the mid 1970s - times were different, then. But - how could punishing a suicidal prisoner possibly help them?! It couldn't!!!!!
@mickharrison90043 жыл бұрын
I was in strangeways in 80s unfortunately, on the bright side my club Blackpool fc beat man City in fa Cup and did I give it em lol, sea sea, seasiders 👊
@mickharrison90043 жыл бұрын
@@johnbryant6572 yeah fair enough, all i knew was i was in Manchester, and a young lad at the time so i enjoyed supporting my team, and like a lot of fans liked to wind up others.
@mickharrison90043 жыл бұрын
@@johnbryant6572 I've forgotten what happened with 6 month sentence for football related shit against Bolton big fight in Blackpool and there was criminal damage of a pub the whole front caved in, and I was charged with that, it was an Xmas fa Cup game around then against City beat em 2 1, i ended up going to wymott shithole prison from there, it did my head in that much, never went back in.
@KJJ85183 жыл бұрын
He said Man City.
@iseeolly99593 жыл бұрын
I don't have any inside knowledge, I find the Governor to be very intelligent and very realistic. If I was in inmate then, of course, I'd hate him...he takes the money from the state and represents the people that locked me up. But for 1980?...I admire his candor. Breaks my heart to hear him talking about why people end up under his care: Mental Health problems, Lack of money, a family to provide for, people overcome but use of drugs or alcohol, people with no hope. I think this Governor really stuck his head on the line by allowing this to be filmed, knowing the system was not working and accepting some of the officers and probation officers were bent or sadistic. I conclude that the people whom judge us are not always anywhere as intelligent as the people they judge over. I do not condone violence or steeling from people not cushioned from our financial/political system. I did, for a while live near a woman whom had been a magistrate for 30 years.....my dad is very wealthy and it was a select village location....she was as mad as a box of frogs....she was evil personified and a much nastier person than any crook I meet in the pub, all while doing drugs. I think we need to stand back and stop thinking about crime and punishment in such "black and white" terms. We need to start punching up: OK I smoke a bit of weed......how about the toxic loans/mortgages traded between banks knowing it was only a short term gain/bonus because the poor fuckers would never pay it back. How about stopping rich cunts in London or Amsterdam making money on the price of wheat next year when humanity just wants a bit of bread? The real crooks are people like Sir Phillip Green, Epstein, Prince Andrew, Robert Maxwell and his awful daughter. Time for us, normal people to stop being pissed over and subjugated. Live long, and follow your hearts! Olly xx
@paulbangash43173 жыл бұрын
Yep
@sandrakirby97104 ай бұрын
What insight named the names then quite rightly
@malcolmclements92543 жыл бұрын
Notice, no netting on the landings to stop jumpers.
@muk88043 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many were pushed or "fell" and only proven if it suited those running the show
@tech9auto2233 жыл бұрын
They brought the prison to a stop cause the screws said they couldn't work in the conditions what about the prisoners they're having to live in it the screws go home at night no wonder they rioted
@simonanthonywilde59463 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the upload.
@garryheywood13 жыл бұрын
I was in strangeways in 79/80 first on k wing then back on G wing after being sentenced to borstal, in those days strangeways was a brutal sh#t hole, pissin and shit#in in a bucket, the smell at slop-out each morning is something I will never forget.
@iseeolly99593 жыл бұрын
Take somebody who has done wrong, treat them like a cunt...an animal... and wonder why they don't pop out of prison feeling reformed and happy? Hope you can find a way to be happy mate.
@Mark-ip7oq3 жыл бұрын
Was in there 1986 k wing what a shit hole
@paulbangash43173 жыл бұрын
I played a gig there with my band back in 79’ ( I think , or late 78’). In the chapel on a Sunday morning.
@djgaryowens3 жыл бұрын
Awful, absolutely awful. Glad that I have never had any dealings with the police, never been to prison or even in court. I bet that the vast majority of British people live their lives in the hope that they never have reason to call the useless buggers.
@chrisandrews93003 жыл бұрын
Lol it's never changed this was before I was born I was in there in 2013 on remand prison uniform diffrent toilet in cell. The doors are the same same fence on the wing canteen is all on a toach screen machine now tho. loved to of seen the gym tho back then. Only good thing about the place was the gym. It was a-sick gym when I was there.
@theoutlier90533 жыл бұрын
Met and trained with Paul Sykes there in late 70s
@chaosnexxus92552 ай бұрын
"Well I think you're very silly." Sounds like Ringo Starr in Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends.
@arnofthenorth.71543 жыл бұрын
Of course she knew of prisoners having a fair hearing. . . . . And I'll bet she had fairies at the bottom of her garden til the devil came for her.
@junefleet76743 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this on bbc2 2000 2001 all 4 on night after night some bits have been cut out I noticed I would like to watch all 4 without nothing been cut out
@marclaw45112 жыл бұрын
It just looks brutal compared to now.
@Sameoldfitup3 жыл бұрын
"Judges must beware of hard constructions and strained inferences, for there is no worse torture than that of laws."---- Francis Bacon.
@techtinkerin2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that..
@AffectionatePrinter-sj5ieАй бұрын
Was on the same landing A2 cell 26 in 1982 untill 1988....
@fasthracing3 жыл бұрын
I predict a riot
@mcpartridgeboy3 жыл бұрын
wow i had the sound off and staying alive on another tab playing i really thought this was the video at first !
@MrHsHotPot3 ай бұрын
I half expected him to say "4737, Carlin, Sir!" @8:53
@thetruthorossa1183 жыл бұрын
Anyone know who was the old geezer locked up 26 year's seemed to be a rebel still
@jayinthedxb3 жыл бұрын
Five star upload this mate...thanks for this and the other eps.
@StunnedByWrestling3 жыл бұрын
Watch this entire series and then wonder how the riots happened a decade later.
@MrColey9993 жыл бұрын
That governor looks like he just pulled his skin mask on this morn what’s with those ears look like they were super glued on ,,The whole upper management look like they should be in an old age pensioners home not a prison.
@robertyoung733 жыл бұрын
As per the narration, he was a tank commander severely injured during the war.
@MrColey9993 жыл бұрын
@@robertyoung73 explains it then
@shaunblack77513 жыл бұрын
Just got out strange ways end January lovely place will be back to visit shortly
@paulmcdonough10933 жыл бұрын
free meals waiting for you
@snowflakemelter11723 жыл бұрын
Everyone in prison is innocent, they all told me when I was there.
@brendancronin37963 жыл бұрын
I found that it was the exact opposite ...I don't remember meeting anybody that said they were innocent ....I think that's just something that once got said in a film or on the tv and people believed it . The ones that were on remand for really serious charges may have stuck to their stories ..but as soon as they got convicted they didn't keep up the pretence. The only people in prison that say their innocent more than likely are innocent
@snowflakemelter11723 жыл бұрын
@@brendancronin3796 my experience was the opposite, it was a well known thing we joked about when someone came out with an excuse as to why they shouldn't be there.
@brendancronin37963 жыл бұрын
@@snowflakemelter1172 I know what you mean ....but on the whole I rarely heard anyone say it ....but if they did your right...we'd laugh .I was in the English prison system and if I'm honest I just don't remember hardly anybody actually saying their innocent .Other people might say " that guy over there has been stitched up and shouldn't be in here " The other one I hear a lot is " you should never ask anyone what their in for"..... I found that to be the opposite , nobody give a shit about being asked what there charges were or what they were convicted of
@johnreynolds20553 жыл бұрын
@@brendancronin3796 It makes them look daft because they're still sitting here like the rest of us
@ackerjawaka1966Ай бұрын
@@brendancronin3796I always found that if you asked a peado what they were in for they would always say arson for some reason 🍺 🍻 not that it mattered cos my mate was the reception orderly and he would tell us who was in for what 😜
@Potionette813 жыл бұрын
I have worked in the prison service for just over 3 months now, and it is so interesting to watch old documentaries like this to see what prisons were like in the past. The food looks like pigswill compared with what inmates eat now (examples being moussaka, marinated/curried chicken legs and pasta bakes).
@mickharrison90043 жыл бұрын
To be fair the food you describe is mostly garbage, i was in strange ways in 80s and food wasn't that bad, regular meals.
@peterhoey74533 жыл бұрын
Jennifer g. Hands off the inmates.
@Potionette813 жыл бұрын
@@peterhoey7453 I'm a Records Clerk and I only see the little charmers through a window into Reception when collecting files 😀
@peterhoey74533 жыл бұрын
@@Potionette81 nice one. Do you work in a adult prison.
@roberttilton79273 жыл бұрын
I'd love updates on the people in this show.
@Roscoe.P.Coldchain3 жыл бұрын
Graveyard it’s 41 years ago son lol? I think there all sleeping peacefully now ☮️
@Xt-tt6mc3 жыл бұрын
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain Not really.. statistically The Majority will be alive and in their sixties or seventies
@Roscoe.P.Coldchain3 жыл бұрын
@@Xt-tt6mc why’s that then have you been inside? I have and there loads of older inmates and even the young people in this will not be alive? Prisoners lead hectic lifestyles alcoholism drugs and don’t live that long.. Not everyone is lucky enough to afford healthy food and live like the queen.. Yes there might be a few left but I think u will be wrong...In fact I’m positive ☮️
@norbertalbertz72593 жыл бұрын
75% probably dead as the dodo lying in a graveyard nothing but bones, other 25% probably in wheelchairs wearing adult nappies dribbling saliva down their chins
@BeenHereBefore243 жыл бұрын
They dead
@Kalus_Saxon Жыл бұрын
7:36 nothings changed I was in belmarsh 2009 and 2011 on remand for 2 & 3 weeks… not only were we locked up 23hrs a day on the 3rd day of being in there they ran out of shower gel… 3 days later the screw was lucky he didn’t get the cue round his head after I said this takes the piss alright for you having your wash everyday but fook us a I’m not even sentenced already I’m being treated like an animal… Both times I got athletes foot from no bleach being allowed into clean the floors the dirty smackheads infected with their rotting feet.. Maybe if some politicians and judges were forced to live in those conditions they might make some changes….
@DLIN6663 жыл бұрын
The BoV lol what a joke. You can clearly see from 34:05 they were farrrrr from impartial, they may as well have worn the same get up as the screws.
@herrickmaster773 жыл бұрын
The governor is a former ww2 veteran so has probably seen more shit than most people ,i would of thought a majority of the prison gaurds would of been ex military also ,the discipline would of been far different back then ,but in honesty i dont think half of the inmates would even been there these days for missing a maintenance payment etc or pinching 30 bobs worth of scrap
@brendancronin37963 жыл бұрын
Yeah back then there was a fair few ex military and in my experience most of them tended to be firm but fairer than the screws that had been civvys
@herrickmaster773 жыл бұрын
@@brendancronin3796 i can belive that im ex army and most of us who join come from the same estates or backgrounds as some of the prisoners would've and therfore some of the prison gaurds too! I can guess the twats wouldve been the one who joined as civis probably never experienced one hardship in life previous you can tell who the thugs are in this documentary
@brendancronin37963 жыл бұрын
@@herrickmaster77 yeah...the civvys tended to want to prove how tough they and the ex soldiers had a better understanding of how people react in institutions cos as you said they went through worse . I once had a cellmate that was moaning to an officer about getting woken up at 8 0clock and the officer said " shut up ...you wanna see how getting woken up at four in the morning when you've had two hours sleep and then being knee deep in freezing water carrying a weight on your back that weighs more than you wet through feels " I laughed so hard and said " ah I'd have done it on my head ..I wouldn't have needed sleep " and he said " keep dreaming Cronin " ...they actually had a similar senses of humour some of them because after all the army is an institution
@herrickmaster773 жыл бұрын
@@brendancronin3796 most ex squaddies will have good humour id have hated to put up with the bully boy officers giving people a clout for saying the wrong thing or standing their ground ,im guessing a lot of that went on
@brendancronin37963 жыл бұрын
@@herrickmaster77 the civvy screws tried to demand respect but the ex forces screws commanded respect ...and there's a big difference . Some of them years ago in the early 90s ( when I had my first holiday courtesy of the queen) in Armley prison Leeds were in a mufti squad called the 'A' team used to illegally enter cells on a night and kick the shit out of cons they deemed trouble makers ...and they were stopped because an ex army screw grassed them up , he was called Mr Mathews and he was full Asian with a broad Scottish accent lol...but what a legend .The civvy screws tended to bring their problems to work more than the ex army did aswell and some of them were still drunk from the night before ....and on a night you could tell which screw was night watch by his walk ...the army blokes had a walk like a metronome whereas the civvys dawdled and they swung their keys really loudly just to emphasize that they literally held the keys to your freedom .
@boomboxbadboy14 жыл бұрын
fantastic upload mate...do you have more episodes?
@stevehamilton34303 жыл бұрын
There were eight episodes in the series. It would be good to see the whole thing. 29/10/1980 - Human Warehouse 05/11/1980 - The Allegation 12/11/1980 - Screws 19/11/1980 - Cons 26/11/1980 - The Block 03/12/1980 - They Call Us Beasts 11/12/1980 - Borstal Boys 17/12/1980 - Christmas
@kollusion13 жыл бұрын
@@stevehamilton3430 Is this a Granada / World in action production? Thanks for the episode titles.
@Gibbo13 жыл бұрын
Is the guvnors head heavy on one side? He can't seem to keep it upright.
@thewesties87253 жыл бұрын
It said he was injured during WW2
@iseeolly99593 жыл бұрын
Just stressed about being honest during a time when we didn't think men, even when they have done wrong, have any feelings. An early whistle blower.
@ragnarragnarson51843 жыл бұрын
That bloke 6 minutes in moaning about being locked up 23 hours a day and having to piss in a bucket, he should of thought about that before committing crime, if you can't do the time then don't do the crime
@rick182z3 жыл бұрын
Not helpful
@norbertalbertz72593 жыл бұрын
God he was a whining little twerp, don't break the law then
@redbison64172 жыл бұрын
@@norbertalbertz7259 a whining derp? He predicted exactly what would happen, the roof would come off the prison.
@watermelonineasterhay Жыл бұрын
Crime doesn't pay.
@chrisw35133 жыл бұрын
Nothing ever changes this was filmed 4 years before i was born and when I was in strangways in 2015 it looked almost the same except now you have a toilet room as part of your cell
@bellman80413 жыл бұрын
I remember back when we slopped out and queued up for water to wash back at the cell, it was a joke. There was no water pressure so it took ages to get enough water which was almost cold.
@DoinBitsSince813 жыл бұрын
Poor you 😂😂
@chrisw35133 жыл бұрын
@Gee smith it did but when they rebuilt it if you look at the video the wall between cells they created a toilet room in that void about 6ft square
@chrisw35133 жыл бұрын
@@bellman8041I'm glad I had a separate toilet room as we were locked up 23&1/2 hours a day for weeks on end so can only imagine what it would smell like if we just had buckets
@bellman80413 жыл бұрын
@@chrisw3513 Because at the time the screws were on a work to rule a lot of days it was 24hr bang up Chris. The screws only opened 2-3 cells at a time, it took forever to allow slopping out. Sometimes the bottom landings would flood with sewage, the whole place stank. We never complained you had to get use to it, I only write this for the historical aspect.
@stuarttorevell23533 жыл бұрын
Great show
@eddieberriman87903 жыл бұрын
Are you Stuart torevell from most haunted?
@michaelstevens6303 жыл бұрын
The Gov looked aged 80 in 1980.
@chchedda2 жыл бұрын
Mad thing is he was only 26 in this video just working at strangeways aged him terribly
@stormytempest39073 жыл бұрын
The British penal system, worse than some, better than some!
@howey9353 жыл бұрын
I went to prison a few times when I was young and stupid for fines, 21 days is the most I got that was for a £600 fine. But they’ve apparently changed it now and if you get sentenced to days you still have to pay but when I did my days the fine was quashed unless it was for compensation.
@brendancronin37963 жыл бұрын
Yeah I used to go for my fines ...but now your right you've still got to pay them ...fuck that
@ROC140888 ай бұрын
Real jail, the lads now have it easy
@garryf87663 жыл бұрын
I was in Forrest bank In 05 and u used to get £8 week bang up pay and u had to pay 50p a week for ur tv in double sell and £1 week in single
@rick182z3 жыл бұрын
bargain
@seannamadra56753 жыл бұрын
Trevor was our neighbour no surprise he ended up here?
@clareswinney10873 жыл бұрын
Who remembers their prison number? I do...TG0870! 😳
@smith27813 жыл бұрын
Lol A5051cc
@Spaz-x2r10 ай бұрын
I've had so many but I remember my first one from HMYOI Northallerton AX8033.
@sallycox21353 жыл бұрын
Can any prisoner understand what incarcerated means? You do a crime and you go to prison not a bloody holiday camp.... also why should any prison have any bloody rights? They don't think about the rights of the people who they are robbing beating raping or been downright obnoxious too... no sympathy for any of them... they are only in this position because they wanted something that they couldn't be arsed to go out and work for... nobody thats nobody should have to suffer the after affects of a incarcerated unsociable delinquent
@richardsmithson44533 жыл бұрын
Humans should still have rights. How do you want them to be treated? If you want to treat them how they treated people then it's just as bad. It's not that black and white. Some people simply haven't had a choice in the paths they have taken in life due to their environment. We have a lot less free will in life than you think. It would be better and more productive for yourself and the world to ask questions and understand human behaviour instead of just dismissing things that are way more complicated than you make out. Otherwise your opinion is based on ignorance. The way humans live now is just a facade, we like to think we are good but we are all capable of doing bad. We aren't any more evolved from even the most barbaric periods of human life. It's just that socially we have created a facade that makes us appear that way. That's just one of many, many aspects to this complicated subject anyway.
@sallycox21353 жыл бұрын
You try being terrified of going out the house or coming home again... I agree some upbringings have been difficult but that doesn't give anyone the right to do exactly what they want and bugger the consequences.?. This is what they should do BRAKE THE VICIOUS CIRCLE
@richardsmithson44533 жыл бұрын
@@sallycox2135 yea I've experienced it, I grew up in a rough town and I was getting in trouble myself. It's not as easy as breaking a vicious cycle. That's what I'm saying, some people do well and come out of it but it takes time and self awareness and help from people. For a lot of people there is zero help and it's all they know. For exameple abuse cycles in families are passed down generations. Or simply the way a family member talks down to you affects the way you treat others. There always has been and always will be people who do bad things. Treating prisoners with no respect and giving them no rights does NOT solve this problem. For example, what you described happened in this video where a suicidal inmate has his clothes taken off him and is locked in a tiny room. How will that help anyone?! You want this to be fixed yet you aren't interested in opening your mind and having a discussion about helping people. I don't think we will ever have a definitive solution but treating people how they've been treated their whole life is just going to perpetuate behaviour.
@sallycox21353 жыл бұрын
Mr smithson You obviously think i suffer ignorance ... it's not that at all it's first hand experience that's made me bitter.. I'm thinking you have made your point so we really need to agree to disagree.. We all have our own opinions .
@richardsmithson44533 жыл бұрын
@@sallycox2135 cool no worries
@gazclint12 жыл бұрын
So where’s the rest of the series ?
@bobbyfischer67868 ай бұрын
I didnt know the governor was CHARLES HAWTREY
@daviddalby96993 ай бұрын
It's classium pure
@johncarney34473 жыл бұрын
G wing YP landing 1971 goolash n manchester tart
@SimDeck8 ай бұрын
That prisoner "i dont read" theres yer problem clam
@guy44693 жыл бұрын
Steel a car go to prison 1980 . .Now you could steel a police bmw x5 get chase,d a 100 miles then rite it off .You would get a police caution and a fine £300 , and end up on channel 5 . thats it .
@Gecko.... Жыл бұрын
Mmm it depends on your record and the quality of your barrister. We are sending too many people to prison, more than anywhere in western europe and we have the worst reoffending rate so it's not working and costing the taxpayer a fortune. We should be putting more money into reforming people who nick cars, educating them on how to live in a society because most of the time they've grown up in single parent households with zero care. So long as a person is not violent I don't think it's productive to put them in prison where they just learn how to become better criminals. We need to get away from this desire for petty punishment that has no advantages.
@bellman80413 жыл бұрын
Mr Thacker was the main screw on my landing on the Borstal allocation wing at this time. Anyone remember him?
@cooksteve84283 жыл бұрын
I remember him, rumour had it he hated cons as his daughter married one he knew from strangeways!!
@bellman80413 жыл бұрын
@@cooksteve8428 His daughter probably rebelled against him, after all he was the typical drill Sargent.
@cooksteve84283 жыл бұрын
@@bellman8041 Probably, personally i thought he was hilarious and never took him serious!!
@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi47332 ай бұрын
Teaching them french in prison is a fking disgrace.
@waynesilverman30488 ай бұрын
Was that long haired lad a hippie probably went to Stonehenge festivals
@deeppurple8833 жыл бұрын
Screws are just that, 🧠⚰️.
@gearoftones8585 Жыл бұрын
They were systematically brutalised into the bargain
@psm-rq3xk3 жыл бұрын
Charles Haltrey is the prison governor 🤣
@davidmyles99673 жыл бұрын
Oh i say!
@davidmyles99673 жыл бұрын
@Carl Carter charles hawtrey was the camp star of the " carry on " films. the other camp one , apart from kenneth williams. he was unkind in real life and refused to sign autographs for children , whose parents sent them over for an autograph , saying " do you know who i am , no , then why do you want my autograph ? " your name sounds american and maybe you dont know what " carry on " films are, in which case please look them up here. they were a series of films from the 50`s approx to the 90`.
@andrewbiny9133 жыл бұрын
Holiday camp beleave me beats being in outside world working for a pittance in all weathers
@chrisw35133 жыл бұрын
Physically it was easy when I was there in 2015 but mentally it did you in as we were on 23&1/2 lockup for weeks on end and I was celled alone 90% of the time
@andrewbiny9133 жыл бұрын
@@chrisw3513 me too both mentally as well ,had far worse managers and foreman's beleave me than any of the screws in there
@michouharoliyk20503 жыл бұрын
Throw away the key. Job done
@tamzy48253 жыл бұрын
wow brings back so many memories, met some decent lads in the big house..
@KeithFoad2 күн бұрын
Take the inmates out of the equation. And the building is nothing more than a zoo.
@matthewpowell65163 жыл бұрын
Ronnie barker trying out his role for porridge
@hayleysiobhanwood9851 Жыл бұрын
You get £4:50 on basic, £8:50 standard, £14:50 on enhanced emount. They got £1:50 back in the day 😮 Fuck that lol
@Spaz-x2r10 ай бұрын
I haven't been to jail for over a decade and since my first stretch until then canteen was; basic £5 private + wages, standard £10 + wages, enhanced £30+ wages for convicted cons... £60 on remand. Bang up pay was always £2.50.... you could get 1/2 oz burn, skins and matches for that when i started going to jail.
@theguitarsurgeon62133 жыл бұрын
I ant seen one black person?
@MisterSands3 жыл бұрын
The good old days.
@matthewbritton4149 Жыл бұрын
@@MisterSands hahaha 🤣🤣👍
@Spaz-x2r10 ай бұрын
Because it's up North... they were all down south then.
@georgeschofield60993 жыл бұрын
Straighways prison in 90s
@johnmcginley8988 Жыл бұрын
They always won
@penduloustesticularis12023 жыл бұрын
A bit like Butlins.
@BlytheWorld19723 жыл бұрын
wonder if any of the young lads are still alive hope some are ... did you change your life and get out of jail ?
@richardkelbie53623 жыл бұрын
Lol'z
@richardkelbie53623 жыл бұрын
@@johnbryant6572 Were you a bit of a celebrity at the time with it being on tv? With only 3 channels back then everyone seen it
@johnbryant65723 жыл бұрын
@@richardkelbie5362 no not me this was filmed in the late seventys or 1980 I got out of there in 78 before those 2 guys from Liverpool smashed it up and ran riot for 3 weeks nothing celebrity about me.think I was 23/24 I'm nearly 70.this wasent filmed when I was in there but it's exactly how it was.
@richardkelbie53623 жыл бұрын
@@johnbryant6572 life goes past so quick
@BlytheWorld19723 жыл бұрын
@@johnbryant6572 glad to read you are still about :) all the best .
@TomFarrell-js8sl3 ай бұрын
Carlin from the movie Scum...arriving in Big Boy Prison.
@polystyrene79213 жыл бұрын
17:05 Cat Z acting
@skankashkenazi93293 жыл бұрын
MR BROWN THE WAR HERO
@clareswinney10873 жыл бұрын
£120 a week lol!! 🤦♀️
@rick182z3 жыл бұрын
was a lot in those days
@jasongledhill6596 Жыл бұрын
Not much has changed really prison needs real reform and the war on drugs isn't working they need treatment not locking up legalize drugs tax them and stop making prisoners out if addicts and crime would drop by a massive amount better for society at large
@anaiscatton22343 жыл бұрын
Bath once a week 🥴
@iancameron6124 Жыл бұрын
NOT MUCH OF A KING IF YA V CANT FIND EPISODE 7 OR 8 ITS TITLE IS; ; : they call us the beasts:: im only joking but ive asked you time ago, and you've still not found it do u =think youtube took it down cause I watched it years n yeas ago ON KZbin but watched them all , its like = impossible,,,,,,, unless you king Artur
@pippipster67673 жыл бұрын
Crime control as industry.
@MisterSands3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but what's the alternative?
@pippipster67673 жыл бұрын
@@MisterSands Well I am just observing that it is an industry. If there was no crime there would be no police, prisons, prison officers, judges, lawyers and so on. If a society did not have any crime it would have to invent it. Counterintuitively, society requires crime.
@garysinglewood63693 жыл бұрын
They are letting Charlie bronson out about time to
@rick182z3 жыл бұрын
doubt he'll cope with modern world
@LouisLewisLewis Жыл бұрын
How is learning em French gonna help em ffs 😢
@Spaz-x2r10 ай бұрын
Doing baccy runs to France lol.
@seanyates83313 жыл бұрын
Was that Paul Sykes ?
@outsidemayor20983 жыл бұрын
No, similar looking but wasn’t him
@raymondstives76602 жыл бұрын
Vinnie valenti
@bigtoelittlefinger6133 Жыл бұрын
What a horrible creepy little man I wonder who jgs
@seanculligan85922 ай бұрын
At least the screws had the prison under control. Nowadays it's a complete shit show.