Strangeways A Human Warehouse Ep 1, 1980

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@keithgray4891
@keithgray4891 11 ай бұрын
Brings back so many bad memories.. pleased I am totally reformed, fully employed, an Author, researcher and writer 🙏🏿
@herpsmaltwatta
@herpsmaltwatta 11 ай бұрын
How can we read your stuff Keith? All the best to you and glad life has taken a better press on you and memories created now will sit well with you ✌
@jacklomas7773
@jacklomas7773 11 ай бұрын
Pissed up all afternoon tormenting prisoners. Sick
@MarkMckay-b3h
@MarkMckay-b3h 11 ай бұрын
Well done keith
@BruceDanton-xw6eg
@BruceDanton-xw6eg 7 ай бұрын
You are right there of course too.​@herpsmaltwatta
@derryjones1029
@derryjones1029 6 ай бұрын
Me to on the straight and narrow now prison is a fools game and a waste of our lives can't put a price on freedom
@binko969
@binko969 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating. Documentary’s done by the Brit’s are always the best. Any subject anywhere in the world, in the UK or the USA or anywhere they are superb all of them. Great post. Thanks
@LarsTragel-zh7ei
@LarsTragel-zh7ei 9 күн бұрын
*were (unluckily) Today's BBC products are laughable trash.
@gI-jl3lq
@gI-jl3lq 11 ай бұрын
Love these documentary's
@Sawdust-f4p
@Sawdust-f4p 11 ай бұрын
@@ruperttristanblythe7512🌚
@CutLeRoc
@CutLeRoc 11 ай бұрын
Grammar Nazi@@ruperttristanblythe7512
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 6 ай бұрын
As they used to say at school about firming plurals with words that end in y, "change the y to an i and add es". We also don't ever use apostrophes to form plurals.
@zusanli251
@zusanli251 5 ай бұрын
TL;DR
@blazingsaddles7136
@blazingsaddles7136 11 ай бұрын
love it even borat was there as one of the students
@thpxs0554
@thpxs0554 11 ай бұрын
I found this disturbing. I was in Reading Jail about this time, another Victorian relic, and the regime is a reflection of the governor. In the time I was there there were no fights, no assaults, the screws ( all local cos it was a local jail) were all reasonable and respectful, we had some long bang up days and some days we got out and played volleyball in the yard. It was friendly and relaxed. The governor was a good natured man and ran a relaxed prison. This strangeways shit hole is a disgrace, it reflects the shitbag running it. Hard discipline and hard routine takes more effort to enforce and causes pressure to build up as petty injustices just mount up daily As we saw in 1990 when they destroyed the place. The punishment is the loss of liberty, not the routine that’s enforced while having the loss of liberty. I did the short sharp shock at Haslar, I did Portland as well, it doesn’t work as a deterrent. It costs much more and gives licence to officers who have a nasty streak to exercise that streak. These places are full of the social casualties of society, ( plus some who need to be executed or locked away for ever). Mostly they suffered from childhood traumas, no father, council care homes, low intelligence low educational attainment etc. mostly they can’t be helped and eventually mostly they grow out of it and calm down into their lives of drinking, and benefits and just bumping along the bottom. I was an exception, got a good job, I even worked in one screws house afterwards and he trusted me to do the job unsupervised in a part of his house, with tea and biscuits laid on. But custody had no influence on any thing once I was out. It was forgotten. Prison works in the sense of Michael Howard’s statement that while you’re locked up you’re not committing crime. But it doesn’t deter anyone. They’ve tried everything, the Victorians tried to be progressive,( compared to transportation for nicking a loaf or hanging a sheep thief) but you can’t stop crime. There were 44,000 in prison in my time, now there’s 80,000 plus. So what’s going on? It’s clearly not working. Society is sick, there’s no cure.
@toon9359
@toon9359 11 ай бұрын
Wise words
@Christopherogley
@Christopherogley 11 ай бұрын
@@kinkyafro3150 the doctor in Armley was called Dr No...nothing.. straight rip .. methadone I was on 80 MLS ... nobody ever died of an overdose...yeah ask any Leeds lads
@stephenmorrissey2635
@stephenmorrissey2635 7 ай бұрын
If only you could voice your opinion to someone that can make a difference and change things. Very well put 👍
@-xirx-
@-xirx- 6 ай бұрын
​@stephenmorrissey2635 lets hope this prison reform starmer's promising actually does something. 14 years is a long time to repair thou
@thpxs0554
@thpxs0554 6 ай бұрын
@@-xirx- I hope so, the fundamental issue is a problem with society. Kids without fathers score terribly on every metric from health to life time earnings, mental well being drug abuse violent etc. so that would be a good starting point, but there’s no way the woke brigade will go along . That would be an admission that feminism and no fault divorce and social security for unmarried mothers was a big failure . The prison population is double what it was in my day. Prison only stops crime while the prisoner is incarcerated but there’s no rehabilitation at all. Infact in my own experience there was no way that any of us young offenders could be rehabilitated by counselling or reason. But when I was working I wasn’t involved in crime. And then I grew up and stopped being a total twat. But we can’t just conjure up jobs for a million young people. I see no solution that doesn’t involve a cultural reconstruction. Which won’t happen. The USA is where we’re ultimately going.
@1WillowMoon
@1WillowMoon 11 ай бұрын
44k prisoners at that time, its now double that in the UK. The governor seems a very decent man, very very wise. Hats off to him.
@rinkydinkydragon1
@rinkydinkydragon1 3 ай бұрын
I was expecting him to be an absolute tyrant bully but was pleasantly surprised.
@granitesevan6243
@granitesevan6243 3 ай бұрын
I've heard he was a complete arsehole who oversaw a regime of mistreatment and cruelty. He also co-opted the union and allowed racist screws a free hand over the population. He may be making all the right noises regarding the failings of the prison system, but he wasn't doing anything to help
@1WillowMoon
@1WillowMoon 3 ай бұрын
@granitesevan6243 that just shows how phoney people are on camera then if that's the case. That's a shame.
@granitesevan6243
@granitesevan6243 3 ай бұрын
@@1WillowMoon Of course. This kind of thing was standard practice in what many-an-idiot calls "the good old days". The establishment would close ranks and put on and outward display of decency and this would cover up untold depravity. Many of those "good" public servants would have gone to their graves with all manner of dirty secrets
@1WillowMoon
@1WillowMoon 3 ай бұрын
@granitesevan6243 I can well imagine.
@Slimesurfer684
@Slimesurfer684 11 ай бұрын
How society has deteriorated in the last 44 years since this series was aired 😢
@muk8804
@muk8804 7 ай бұрын
As evidenced by the meat head comments on here
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 6 ай бұрын
You a russian troll or just thick? Crime was much worse back then. Unemployment through the roof. The specials wrote "ghost town" about how miserable life was. As the historian Dominic Sandbrook wrote about the early 80s, it was a period of "unprecedented misery".
@paulparker8298
@paulparker8298 4 ай бұрын
British society has always been a dysfunctional pile of crap 💩
@seltaeb9691
@seltaeb9691 3 ай бұрын
Really? Can't agree with that. I'm 71 now & ordinary people spend plenty, everyone has got smartphones, TV in every bedroom, every kid has computer games, everyone has cars & this is the so called working class of which I was one. The term working class is pretty opaque now. I can tell you it was much harder living then & that was expected. The 80s was the start of what we accept as normal now. House burglary of working class houses started in the 80s as we had VCRs the start of video games & too fund drugs that had never happened in working class areas before. Now crime is still drugs & online scamming is easy money.
@steveyboyXRP
@steveyboyXRP 2 ай бұрын
Diversity is our strength
@modrevival168
@modrevival168 11 ай бұрын
Excellent series
@StangerStrange
@StangerStrange 6 ай бұрын
This series is priceless, thanks for putting it up. A valuable snapshot of another sort of society that is pretty much hidden from sight. To me, it's pretty clear why the riots happened. I wonder if the same kind of honest documentary was done about Wandsworth before the more recent riots there.
@DanDawson-ip3cj
@DanDawson-ip3cj 11 ай бұрын
It’s amazing to see the governor predicting the riot in 1980 in his own words “how long can a man be locked up for 23/24 hours a day ?” 9 years later he got the answer he must of been saying told you so
@BennyMcGibbon
@BennyMcGibbon 6 ай бұрын
I heard the screws were all steaming drunk after lunch and it was like a night out in Leeds City centre each evening. Then again I heard how many times the screws got truly gassed each morning at slop out. It was a routine thing. Get gassed in the morning get hammered then pummeled the offenders after dinner. I got this information from the yt channel ' Tales from the Jails '.
@bobmiller7502
@bobmiller7502 6 ай бұрын
@@BennyMcGibbon that's a load of BS Benny boy, the screws wouldn't dare beat the inmates or get drunk they would get smashed to bits by the lads. its live and let live,in there, there's obviously the odd exception dont believe all you see on YT kidda xxx
@BennyMcGibbon
@BennyMcGibbon 6 ай бұрын
@@bobmiller7502 Oh my god??? Your suggesting the screws at HMP Manchester didn't have a drink at lunchtime back then?
@bobmiller7502
@bobmiller7502 6 ай бұрын
@@BennyMcGibbon having a pint and gettin pissed as applied is very different kidda..xx
@BennyMcGibbon
@BennyMcGibbon 6 ай бұрын
@@bobmiller7502 You need to actually talk to an ex screw.
@the_birthday_skeleton
@the_birthday_skeleton 11 ай бұрын
crackin' series mate thanks for uploading
@LarsTragel-zh7ei
@LarsTragel-zh7ei 9 күн бұрын
Good upload. A typical old-fashioned serious documentary.
@davy_K
@davy_K 20 күн бұрын
The bit with the clothes bring itemised reminds me if the admission sequence in Clockwork Orange.
@desdicadoric
@desdicadoric 11 ай бұрын
I wonder what happened to Trevor there, he’d be ten years older than me, 66 now. Hope he sorted himself out 1:03
@ASimm93
@ASimm93 22 күн бұрын
Sometimes you want to comment on things you see and read, but theres so many nuance's to each scenario.. just the lack of any plan during or after imprisonment is very striking watching these docu-clips. It just seems like we as society went through the motions of punishing crime with no understanding element or prevention/rehabilitation after the fact... you could go on and on but clearly it was an inadequate system. Same problems persist.
@rickhardman7376
@rickhardman7376 11 ай бұрын
The echoing and clanging of keys ... very eerie
@TheOneAndOnly7777-i5c
@TheOneAndOnly7777-i5c 6 ай бұрын
Every jail in Country does that
@TheOneAndOnly7777-i5c
@TheOneAndOnly7777-i5c 6 ай бұрын
Its a Prison not a playground
@anthonyboyle877
@anthonyboyle877 6 ай бұрын
Glenocles short sharp lesson worked really well in changing criminals mindset .
@distantrambler
@distantrambler 11 ай бұрын
Would love to know more about the guy inside for 26 years
@thetruthwillout3347
@thetruthwillout3347 6 ай бұрын
Banged up in 1953...yes it would be interesting to know.
@bodinski100
@bodinski100 6 ай бұрын
Norman stanley fletcher...
@P.G.Wodelouse
@P.G.Wodelouse 6 ай бұрын
@@bodinski100 lol
@Acemechanicalservices
@Acemechanicalservices 4 ай бұрын
That doctor bit in the beginning reminded me of some advice I got once: When you’re at the proctologist, if you feel one hand on your shoulder, you’re ok. If you feel both hands on your shoulders, brace and pucker!
@pershorefoodbanktrusselltr3632
@pershorefoodbanktrusselltr3632 11 ай бұрын
Going to prison is not exacting revenge, it’s justice!
@jamessones4044
@jamessones4044 11 ай бұрын
Justice is only to be served by the poor masses. We’ve seen so many wrong doings by organisations like the BBC. SAVILLE ‘we knew nothing til he was dead’. Think about that.
@Christopherogley
@Christopherogley 11 ай бұрын
Not always pal
@vtrmcs
@vtrmcs 11 ай бұрын
Film is full of left wing nonsense. It's very simple. If you don't want to go to prison, don't commit crimes. It's called accountability, something we sadly lacked in 1980 and still lack today. Individuals need to be held accountable for their actions.
@applepony2236
@applepony2236 11 ай бұрын
Yep..so strangely phrased wasn't it
@Christopherogley
@Christopherogley 11 ай бұрын
@@vtrmcs to solve the problem of criminality we need rehabilitation not punishment ...the hate factories breed contempt and beget violence frustration and status quo...90 pc of prisoners are serving dead end time for drug addiction entrenched in society by poor education abuse as children and trauma they don't know how to deal with.....punishment as spectacle is self demonising... rehabilitation is the way forward as the Scandinavian countries teach and have taught us....read the book disapline and punishment by the French philosophor michael Foucault for a more definitive answer to the question and point I have tried to raise...he is wiser and more erudite than i could hope to be.....the panopticon model of victorian prison architecture model that Jeremy Bentham devised is to instill constant presure and the feeling that 1 man can constantly watch the whole body of the prison... deliberately to create insecurities and fear among the inmates...The security is modelled around the same punishment and demoralising atmosphere as the architecture....it breeds subconscious contempt and hate ..and...no rehabilitation is ever achieved or could ever be achievable under the panopticon system...... emancipation can only be achievable under rehabilitation...a fact that is only now bring addressed today by special units and compassion and education.......the old prison system was untenable and the strangeways riots were the result and the beginning of change......this is long-winded and refers to the old model...still mostly in place ...it does not work...will never work.....and so it goes....and infinitum ...
@dean5828
@dean5828 6 ай бұрын
If you don’t want to go to prison don’t commit a crime! That simple. Man children blaming everyone but themselves and still the same today.
@noonespecial4171
@noonespecial4171 5 ай бұрын
Worse today, weaker men raising snowflakes
@granitesevan6243
@granitesevan6243 3 ай бұрын
What happens when life on the outside is harder than bang-up? Easy to moralise from a position of privilege
@applepony2236
@applepony2236 11 ай бұрын
No way!you cant even get out of French classes in jail😢
@paulmcallister8948
@paulmcallister8948 4 ай бұрын
La crayon! 😜🫡
@Dusty3030
@Dusty3030 11 ай бұрын
When they are inside the reat of us are safe from their activities.
@thefuturist8864
@thefuturist8864 11 ай бұрын
Ok, but that only justifies removing them from society, not the specific conditions they’re kept in.
@Dusty3030
@Dusty3030 11 ай бұрын
@@thefuturist8864 You may want to donate most of your money to giving them a great life, but it is supposed to be punishment not a reward. I expect their 'free' life was crap too.
@leedobson
@leedobson 6 ай бұрын
I agree, too many bleeding hearts on KZbin comments, these blokes aren't in there for being nice to old ladies
@ackerjawaka1966
@ackerjawaka1966 4 ай бұрын
​@@leedobsonI totally agree with you and I've been in prison 6 times, it is no punishment really, just being away from your family but then that is your own fault for committing crimes 👀♠️
@Radar-Crew
@Radar-Crew 15 сағат бұрын
@@leedobsonWell that’s why they are in jail but why not at least try and educate them in how they might make it their last time. I guess it depends on the crime.
@adrianfitzpatrick4638
@adrianfitzpatrick4638 6 күн бұрын
That prisoner with the long moustache is an actor!
@chrisbronson5341
@chrisbronson5341 5 ай бұрын
Either wharehoused on the inside or pigeonholed on the outside . Do not get into the vortex of living , because of. More in spite of . The gate keepers are the ones you have to really be careful of .
@grandadgamer8390
@grandadgamer8390 6 ай бұрын
"Pull you trousers down, are u a healthy boy" fucking hell!!!! Avoid the system, coz it hasn't changed much
@galaxion62
@galaxion62 16 күн бұрын
Whats the betting that doctor geezer was probably a bit of a perv.
@LordFinsbury
@LordFinsbury 11 ай бұрын
I didn't know Mrs Merton was on the Board of Visitors.
@CraigTom-so2vt
@CraigTom-so2vt 11 ай бұрын
had a 3 month stay here in 2007 till i was relocation to rizley. not as bad as conditions of these lads but depending on whatbwing, with different gangs somedays your french fries were like nails made of potatos rock solid and always rock cake for pudding my pad mate had double puddings
@kanivea
@kanivea 2 ай бұрын
26:04 I give props to that C.O. Him saying that about looking out the windows, imo, shows that he's paying attention to the inmate but also he does want to help and get the inmate to think more positive. It's easier said than done, but from his actions I have respect for him.
@andrewcooper3503
@andrewcooper3503 11 ай бұрын
Awesome.
@zusanli251
@zusanli251 5 ай бұрын
TL;DR
@jamesfulton8251
@jamesfulton8251 6 ай бұрын
I reformed myself, well just grew up, spent many years in places like this, I'm 68 now and still get flash backs to what happened all those years ago, guys killing themselves, guys trying to kill each other, screws bullying everyone, but I guess since the tellies got put in its even worse as that's just another excuse to keep people in a cell all day....
@cameronbrown9080
@cameronbrown9080 11 ай бұрын
When you are in front of the governor and the screws said you had a machine gun the governor would find you guilty of that and every prisoner knew that
@charlesmclaughlin4444
@charlesmclaughlin4444 3 ай бұрын
I would really like to see a contemporary version that follows the same episode format as this.
@puppets.and.muppets
@puppets.and.muppets 11 күн бұрын
nice find
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 11 ай бұрын
Criminals moaning about prison conditions lol Don't do the crime, don't do the time
@deanothemanc5281
@deanothemanc5281 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. They make you laugh. It's always about their so called rights.
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh 11 ай бұрын
They usually don't work though, do they
@timmytommy69
@timmytommy69 11 ай бұрын
there is a huge difference between going to prison and being put in a tooter chamber
@AnthonyLauder
@AnthonyLauder 11 ай бұрын
@@YorkshireTea-nu3qh prisons do work as revenge. The victims of the crimes may get some satisfaction from knowing that the criminal is locked up.
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh 11 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyLauder Okay
@KJJ8518
@KJJ8518 11 ай бұрын
Why did the doctor get the young lad to drop his keg’s to the floor to listen to his chest? That was wrong.
@lestc8579
@lestc8579 11 ай бұрын
All sadists
@sugashakeshakeshake852
@sugashakeshakeshake852 11 ай бұрын
I have no criminal record and decent job and got 4 days remand for wasting police time which I got bail then charge got thrown out…during those 4 days I was made to strip fully twice and some old guard just stared for ages. Prick of a guy.
@theselfishgene1988
@theselfishgene1988 11 ай бұрын
Because one of the tests they didn't show is known as the cough and drop,where they grab your balls and ask you to cough .not sure why, maybe to check for a hernia.
@munkypirate6048
@munkypirate6048 11 ай бұрын
Was just guna say that the offender
@samjoseph420
@samjoseph420 11 ай бұрын
I think because part of the check-up is when the doctor holds the prisoner’s testicles and asks him to cough. This is to check for a hernia.
@gemmi1
@gemmi1 5 ай бұрын
Those law students having a chuckle hearing that the cleaners only get 95p a week - you could see the judgement on their faces. Criminals are people too.
@scottcrosby-art5490
@scottcrosby-art5490 11 ай бұрын
That governor was impressively awake for the time
@David-cm4ok
@David-cm4ok 11 ай бұрын
He talked a good game 😂 and then denied every prisoner he came across with short shrift.
@scottcrosby-art5490
@scottcrosby-art5490 11 ай бұрын
@@David-cm4ok Can't win them all, plus he was probably right about some of them
@PSD-ms8yl
@PSD-ms8yl 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting.
@chopchung
@chopchung 6 ай бұрын
Further to my previous comment which i made 2 hours ago i have now watched this again.I must admit that i DO now find myself laughing @ what has gone on with the doctor at the medical.Needing to check his balls is one thing but to stay sitting as you put the stethoscope right up to his chest with his meat and veg just hanging there DOES now seem somewhat "SAVILLE-ESQUE!.
@trevorevans3956
@trevorevans3956 11 ай бұрын
Some of these blokes are proper plonkers, the one at 33:20 who tried to escape and then asked the board of visitors why his been restricted when he has visitor's and not allowed to use the gym. what a wally.
@distantrambler
@distantrambler 11 ай бұрын
They didn't have the luxury of education ok
@michaelmonsanto692
@michaelmonsanto692 11 ай бұрын
Ronnie Barker Norman Stanley Fletcher at 35.40
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh 11 ай бұрын
No time for burglars.
@woody816
@woody816 6 ай бұрын
35:52 its bloody fletcher. Older ones will remember porridge
@ifeelallfidgetyandwarm6098
@ifeelallfidgetyandwarm6098 11 ай бұрын
Almost 50 years later and the same issues remain and have got worse
@TheOneAndOnly7777-i5c
@TheOneAndOnly7777-i5c 6 ай бұрын
44 closer to 40 years
@TheOneAndOnly7777-i5c
@TheOneAndOnly7777-i5c 6 ай бұрын
Im saying this because i was born in 1980 and im on thjs side of 40 not 50 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@elih9700
@elih9700 11 ай бұрын
44,000 1980, 95,000 2024. More people in prison today than those in the armed forces.
@PDC4Life
@PDC4Life 6 ай бұрын
22:49 like a comedy sketch 😂😂
@ignoblesurfer6281
@ignoblesurfer6281 3 ай бұрын
A scewpful of the chicken tschew
@lewismccrimmon
@lewismccrimmon 11 ай бұрын
That doctor is definitely a beast , telling him to drop his trousers to check his chest wtf😅😅
@kjp1232
@kjp1232 11 ай бұрын
Proper nonce
@BennyMcGibbon
@BennyMcGibbon 6 ай бұрын
It's to check for hernias apparently. If they cough and balls jump up then they may have a hernia or tumour.
@timothykings6243
@timothykings6243 11 ай бұрын
From man to prisoner,who'd have thought it......
@cannonball9478
@cannonball9478 11 ай бұрын
Dyslexia plays a massive part. Perfectly intelligent men end up frustrated and underachieving. Add childhood abuse and a meaningless life. What’s there to lose?
@Dusty3030
@Dusty3030 11 ай бұрын
I am dyslexic, but never found it necessary to be a crook. The actress Susan Hampshire was one of many dyslexic stars who dealt with her problems outside of prison. Stop making excuses for lazy losers.
@Trek001
@Trek001 Ай бұрын
17:49 - bloody hell, is that Bob Maudsley?
@distantrambler
@distantrambler 10 ай бұрын
Doea anyone know anything qbout the guy at the 26 years in ? Whats his story?
@Dogdayafternoon4325
@Dogdayafternoon4325 6 ай бұрын
When about whats the time stamp
@distantrambler
@distantrambler 6 ай бұрын
@@Dogdayafternoon4325 35.47
@waynesilverman3048
@waynesilverman3048 11 ай бұрын
Foxes mints not seen for a while or the fruit
@deanothemanc5281
@deanothemanc5281 11 ай бұрын
IM NOT FCUKING HAVING IT!!!!😂.
@joeleger6488
@joeleger6488 3 ай бұрын
Why are they offering a French language course in prison? What are these inmates going to do with foreign languages?
@StuartSear-yw7oe
@StuartSear-yw7oe 11 ай бұрын
The doctor is a wrong un
@galwayvideonews3625
@galwayvideonews3625 11 ай бұрын
One wonders what the level of recidivism was? We all deserve second chances. How many of the prison population at Strangeways went on to lead a normal life on the outside? It would have been nice to get some stats.. An interesting study nonetheless of the penal system at that time.
@paulhugo2180
@paulhugo2180 11 ай бұрын
I know the bloke at 1.50 folding the clothes, his name is Fred, he had a fight in a pub in Salford and potted the other dude which is why he was there. He never got into trouble again. He died a few years back of the big C.
@tkoteacher1707
@tkoteacher1707 11 ай бұрын
there was actually a follow up programme to this series made around 2000 they caught up with a few of the prisoners from this series 20 years later...you can probably find it on youtube if you reseach it a bit ..can't remember the title of the programme tho
@BurtReynoldstash
@BurtReynoldstash 6 ай бұрын
A school trip to strange ways. 😂
@ignoblesurfer6281
@ignoblesurfer6281 6 ай бұрын
I think we coddle prisoners too much these days and we're way too accepting of any excuse about 'mental health'... but telling a suicidal man who's sitting in his own waste that he's being "rather silly" is something I'm very glad is left in the past. I can see why we've gone too far in the other direction. It's the lesser evil.
@Inconvenient_NPC
@Inconvenient_NPC Ай бұрын
Notice how the visiting students weren't talking when they were being shown around the prison? Respect. You wouldn't see that now with today's students. They'd be on their phones, gossiping away with friends, etc. Sad to see how far this country has declined since then.
@VindexImperiusO9A
@VindexImperiusO9A 5 ай бұрын
2:18 Epic Camerawork. 9:12 Paul Psycho Sykes trying to sound sane 13:33 "Aphrodisiacs in Your Garden" 27:22 "God the Stench" (Dirty Protest) 30:41 Trotter backs up the Governor. 35:45 Norman Stanley Fletcher
@rick182z
@rick182z 2 ай бұрын
It's not Paul Sykes I don't think
@VindexImperiusO9A
@VindexImperiusO9A 2 ай бұрын
@@rick182z I'm almost 100% certain it is him. Voice is nearly identical, except here he is trying to sound normal. I also think they blurred him out so he couldn't watch himself on tv, being that he's an attention seeking psychopath. Search footage of Sykes and compare his voice and mannerisms. I could be wrong.
@davecrewe9074
@davecrewe9074 24 күн бұрын
​@@rick182z correct . It not him. The chap says he can't read sakes was a prolific reader
@marrs1013
@marrs1013 11 ай бұрын
The age old question: what do you want from your prison system? Revenge or rehabilitation? Revenge is a short burst of satisfaction for society, but a long term headache and expense of unrehabilitated and useless men revolving in and out of prison. Rehabilitation is a long term success for society, as people leaving the system and reintegrating into society as useful members. You choose.
@albaproductions9602
@albaproductions9602 2 ай бұрын
In the eighties we had unemployment at four million in the early eighties, surely in that four million someone must of wanted a screws job. Or was the entrance strict.
@neutralfm9620
@neutralfm9620 11 ай бұрын
The prisoner officers were some bunch of cowboys actually have empathy for the prisoner.
@PeterJamesOSullivan-cy2th
@PeterJamesOSullivan-cy2th 11 ай бұрын
35:54 Fletch proper had the hump once Godber had been moved.
@PETERBURNSWILLO
@PETERBURNSWILLO 5 ай бұрын
been there dune it brostal an recall bad place 3 in a cell
@DC-wp6oj
@DC-wp6oj 22 күн бұрын
Why does it take 17 ppl around a table to decide on prisoner issues. The criminal justice/prison system keeps a heck of a lot of ppl in jobs.
@Midlander77.
@Midlander77. 2 ай бұрын
Crazy as even then we had the highest prison population per capita in Europe, whatever is occurring or not as the case is 😂😂😂
@AlanE5150-cd5xs
@AlanE5150-cd5xs 6 ай бұрын
That doctor belonged in that prison as a con more so than some of the inmates! Made my skin crawl.
@P.G.Wodelouse
@P.G.Wodelouse 6 ай бұрын
don't talk daft
@matthewmoore5698
@matthewmoore5698 11 ай бұрын
Really good bet it costs more a day now back then £120 a week to keep a con
@BennyMcGibbon
@BennyMcGibbon 6 ай бұрын
Food didn't look terrible. Roast spuds and gravy. The meat looked a bit strange with all that oversized marbling (fat). Must have been very low cost chuck. But have you seen the food they get in America? It's not even hot, they call it mystery sludge. Yet still the cost to house one prisoner is the same amount of money a CEO gets paid.
@seltaeb9691
@seltaeb9691 3 ай бұрын
Pretty much like my first day in the Army, no different to that, out of civvies into khaki. This series, old as it is, should be shown in Secondary schools, age 14. House burglary is much less now, as its online burglary shall we say now & can we catch them? Nope. Too easy.
@kaysmith8992
@kaysmith8992 6 ай бұрын
21:19 did this guy appear on TV ever again? He looks familiar.
@rick182z
@rick182z 6 ай бұрын
Geoff from Byker Grove
@timothyscully5887
@timothyscully5887 25 күн бұрын
That French class was the only constructive thing those fools were doing.
@chopchung
@chopchung 6 ай бұрын
The medical here, which so many commentators seem to find strange, has been carried out that way since time immemorial!. joining the Forces or even the police, that's what was done!. As mentioned elsewhere it was to locate a hernia.Coughing causes bollox to "jump" slightly upward if no hernia is present.It cannot be denied however that, if an individual was so inclined, a certain sexual thrill was gauranteed.So, todays lesson....."if you don't want your bollox played with then DON'T be a squaddie/sailor/airman or copper.Most of all DON'T be a PRISON SLAG whining about prison officers/"nonce" doctors/"Bacon" inmates or "wrong 'uns"...YOU are the "wrong 'un" that's WHY you're in the nick and 99% of the population are not.. Finally, those people who say they have NEVER experienced this examination must have been prisoners more recently as the very fact that the doctor is carrying this out in front of a BBC camera and therefore the Home Office and the entire world mean that it IS indeed...standard practice. Final note.Many police officers who went through this sued for sexual assault a year or two ago.Not sure what the outcome was but obviously the coppers weren't happy about what happened to them either.
@distantrambler
@distantrambler 11 ай бұрын
Does anybody know anything sbout the guyat the end who was in prison for 26 years?
@Trek001
@Trek001 Ай бұрын
If I recall correctly from a documentary on Strangeways years later, and matching up the times, he ended up in Broadmoor
@distantrambler
@distantrambler Ай бұрын
@Trek001 right I think being locked away for 26 and the regime in Strangeways at the time I would end up in Broadmoor
@Marius_vanderLubbe
@Marius_vanderLubbe 11 ай бұрын
Look at all that paperwork on that table. It's all blowing down the streets now - it meant nothing but justifying a career off another mans misery.
@BennyMcGibbon
@BennyMcGibbon 6 ай бұрын
I remember in the eighties when I went to the GP surgery. Behind the main desk were these huge spiral towers full of folders and documents. The ladies ( yes ladies) would have to climb up step ladders and spin these big circular filing shelves to find your file.
@jaggy-snake
@jaggy-snake 6 ай бұрын
I’d put money on most prison wardens being perverts. What a fucking weird job to have.
@keithfarrell3370
@keithfarrell3370 11 ай бұрын
That doctor struck me as strange
@P.G.Wodelouse
@P.G.Wodelouse 6 ай бұрын
you are the type to keep your underwear on in public showers
@keithfarrell3370
@keithfarrell3370 6 ай бұрын
@@P.G.Wodelouse you must be one of those deep thinkers. Give over, lad.
@P.G.Wodelouse
@P.G.Wodelouse 6 ай бұрын
@@keithfarrell3370 you are the type to use the cubicle when all the urinals are free
@ignoblesurfer6281
@ignoblesurfer6281 6 ай бұрын
The guy on report for the chicken stew bones swearing is a wrong 'un, you can tell he'd be back in about a month after being left out because he'd chin someone in a pub for looking at him funny.
@derp8575
@derp8575 15 күн бұрын
People were so much more sane in 1980. Why is that the case?
@HenrySpriggs-uy1yu
@HenrySpriggs-uy1yu 2 күн бұрын
Fascinating documentary but I believe Trevor was exploited. Don't think he realised he was being filmed in his medical with his pants down. There was no need to show that he was entitled to privacy and to be treated with dignity. I hope Trevor has gone on to turn his life around.
@tissuebuilds
@tissuebuilds 11 ай бұрын
big up decca lad
@Whpbikes
@Whpbikes 3 ай бұрын
Done a bit of time in here about 20 year ago still a shite hole
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 11 ай бұрын
35:50 thats Ronnie Barker!!!
@MarkMckay-b3h
@MarkMckay-b3h 11 ай бұрын
1.50 for wotking in the workshop. More than ma granda got valeting cars
@Davy28842
@Davy28842 11 ай бұрын
Doesn't reform or rehabilitate, makes you think
@merseydave1
@merseydave1 6 ай бұрын
Well .. The Social Time Bomb, Kicked Off 10 years later in 1990 !.
@merson812
@merson812 11 ай бұрын
What's changed.
@Dusty3030
@Dusty3030 11 ай бұрын
They have toilets and the majority are not white and more halal food is served.
@robharding5345
@robharding5345 11 ай бұрын
Quite a lot, when I spent a short spell in here,back in 73, you were only allowed a radio, Now you can have a computer system, and other non essential luxuries.
@generichuman2044
@generichuman2044 11 ай бұрын
A lot from my small experience. Conditions are a lot better in general and there is better care for those suffering from mental health issues.
@JamesMcintosh-m3h
@JamesMcintosh-m3h 11 ай бұрын
REAL SCREW N REAL CONS. THESE ORGANIC CONS THESE DAYS QILL NVR KNO HOW GD THEY'VE GOT IT.
@djcainemerson371
@djcainemerson371 11 ай бұрын
Tell that to anyone that served during Covid……
@Sawdust-f4p
@Sawdust-f4p 11 ай бұрын
Big time
@munkypirate6048
@munkypirate6048 11 ай бұрын
Easy prison now compared to this
@whatchannel3679
@whatchannel3679 11 ай бұрын
I remember my first time on a computer too! Left caps lock on and missed out loads of letters!
@gazza1196
@gazza1196 11 ай бұрын
@@whatchannel3679brill 😂
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 11 ай бұрын
"Record prison population of over 44,000" Believe its 80,000 nowadays.
@BennyMcGibbon
@BennyMcGibbon 6 ай бұрын
Back to 44,000 soon under this government.
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 6 ай бұрын
@@BennyMcGibbon Seems to be the plan.
@cannonball9478
@cannonball9478 11 ай бұрын
Tittering at human misery
@HenrySpriggs-uy1yu
@HenrySpriggs-uy1yu 2 күн бұрын
Trevor was expoited dont believe he knew he was being filmed in the medical . No need to show the lads tackle should have privacy.
@johnespinoza7730
@johnespinoza7730 11 ай бұрын
Prisoner, Why is it called strangeways ? The Dr……….
@tkoteacher1707
@tkoteacher1707 11 ай бұрын
the name goes back many centuries ago to the days when there was a river that ran thru that area that had a mysterious current to it that created channels of water...thats what I read ...I know the centre of manchester has several underground rivers / canals that used to be open
@bloodyliar
@bloodyliar 5 ай бұрын
Disgraceful ... I can't believe how many Frenchmen we have locked up
@sojnab1
@sojnab1 11 ай бұрын
Good documentary.Very sad existence
@maggiemay6625
@maggiemay6625 11 ай бұрын
Jesus wept remembering tv me mama younger brothers on YP we only lived down the road she use to ask us to shout up at the back and ask what they need anything bringing up it was a god awful place however they grew up got good jobs had families only because they knew they were loved prison is not always the answer or solution to certain offenders
@jaggy-snake
@jaggy-snake 6 ай бұрын
Don’t remember Murray Fruits
@rebelsage3158
@rebelsage3158 6 ай бұрын
What a forward thinking governor for his time.
@karenthomas9506
@karenthomas9506 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what happened to Trevor. I hope he sorted himself out & had a good life.
@Marius_vanderLubbe
@Marius_vanderLubbe 11 ай бұрын
Isn't it interesting that they have normalized normalizing to their society.
@applepony2236
@applepony2236 11 ай бұрын
Where is Trevor now?he seems a swwetie
@yorkshirecatdad3702
@yorkshirecatdad3702 11 ай бұрын
I can safely say I never went back after this sentence. Thank you for your kind words 😊
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh
@YorkshireTea-nu3qh 11 ай бұрын
​@@yorkshirecatdad3702good man
@nineteen69
@nineteen69 11 ай бұрын
Reminds me of a young Lee Majors.
@applepony2236
@applepony2236 11 ай бұрын
@nineteen69 Yes!!!I knew he reminded me of someone!!!spot on!!!!
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