if you got questions or want to see any of this done live, check me out @ www.twitch.tv/friendlybaron Many people are probably going to ask what Strats i have found myself, so i will answer it here - most strats i have found myself or worked on are older strats from a few months ago. recently, i have been doing my preferred action - instead of finding strats myself, i am usually busy confirming other peoples strat ideas either offstream or in videos like this one. the new routing reloe found i did alot of testing of, and found many little notes about the gauntlet dupes by just doing them within runs. coming up with strats from scratch is not something im very good at nor enjoy much, so i try to give back to the community by helping test as much as i can and confirming what strats are and are not actually faster. its not a requirement for people to make strats anyways, and lately theres been a culture of EVERYONE MUST CONTRIBUTE STRATSwhich isnt right. some people just dont enjoy that side of speedrunning, so no pressure on anyone if its not something they take part in. is just a game fren (if you reply to this comment i will read it but youtube makes it hard to reply to, if you want a reply then add a new comment to the video, not to this pin, thanks
@R4M_Tommy5 жыл бұрын
The Gran Turismo 4 house music
@doob67875 жыл бұрын
Cmon bro pls do risky strats part 2 like cmon pls bro!
@mimiargyle17945 жыл бұрын
Im bad at speedruning anything, juts love wtaching ur speedruns, sadly i dont watch all your streams because u start streaming late in my country. Much love
@Aspect465 жыл бұрын
FriendlyBaron do u think there will be a sub 6 hour run ?
@ScReamOut935 жыл бұрын
11:10 correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a faster strat? If memory serves right you can set michael on fire with a molotov, which allows you to run at normal speed with the heavy armor. You can skip the whole shootout and carry the fight into the last room, right before you hop on the train
@BillyMark105 жыл бұрын
0:25 this is the gay button according to the KZbin's subtitles
@MyMika20045 жыл бұрын
Well it sounds like.that
@NotDingse5 жыл бұрын
Billy Mark it made me gay... i’m sueing r*
@NotDingse5 жыл бұрын
Nevermind it’s kinda nice tbh
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
WeirdChamp
@donttouchmychair97975 жыл бұрын
im glad i saw this
@devnyorm9445 жыл бұрын
2:19 " unoriginal guy had the idea..... " Ironic
@howtoremovealias5 жыл бұрын
?
@gigapuddi5 жыл бұрын
The name 'unoriginal guy' is ironic because he had an original idea to optimise the run.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
its like having the name Jack Meoff
@Slimmeyy5 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron Pronounced Meff, mind you ;)
@bbqpubmkb45915 жыл бұрын
@@Slimmeyy your name is probably jack meoff
@MagicalBacon5 жыл бұрын
6:00 “This extra time spent watching this guy fall into the nether realm would make the cutscene take 7 extra seconds, which was pretty annoying.” lol.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
Watching a man fall to an eternity of suffering in the nether: annoying Having the shower water be cold in the morning when it hits you: infuriating
@unofficialnick5 жыл бұрын
FriendlyBaron true tho
@itzmejose294 жыл бұрын
FriendlyBaron I couldn’t agree with you more!
@abeardedperson1054 жыл бұрын
zombie pigman boi is back home
@rangerbobox19154 жыл бұрын
Speed runner: saves 0.1 second *STONKS*
@alphaascii5 жыл бұрын
Gran Turismo 4 music.... so many good memories
@alexsalcito53144 жыл бұрын
I love this
@sex_therapist4 жыл бұрын
i dont hear it
@roducliaharenvol83024 жыл бұрын
and Gran Turismo 2 too
@kenopsia90134 жыл бұрын
AlphaAscii nah the sped up gran turismo 3 dealership theme is better
@Bull6254 жыл бұрын
Glad I wasnt the only one who immediately caught this
@BEN-ys6gu2 жыл бұрын
You have a talent for explaining stuff that really not many channels do. You can put yourself in the viewer's shoes and cover everything he wants to know
@corkmousece5 жыл бұрын
I approve of the large amount of gran turismo background music. edit: oh hey over 400 people agree
@TheAfrode5 жыл бұрын
it makes it feel less special tho :\
@GFoxStunting5 жыл бұрын
Igor
@dutchgray865 жыл бұрын
Gran Turismo menu music is excellent, one of the really great things about the GT games.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
hellllllll yeah
@Exponaut_R-015 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Fully. I feel a little warm when someone gives it a moment of spotlight by using it.
@matthiastb67755 жыл бұрын
5:49 I know right. SO annoying when you have to watch one of your heist crew go into the nether realm. Unbelievable.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
Watching a member fall into the nether for eternal suffering from the ghast: Annoying Having the cold shower water hitting you in the morning: Infuriating
@Iugeer5 жыл бұрын
smh happens to me all the time
@mymaingotbanned_not58164 жыл бұрын
MT Bullock It’s like come on bro, keep it together
@unoriginal_guy60215 жыл бұрын
Hey look mom, it’s me
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
Woah nice dude! i was in the video too :)
@unoriginal_guy60215 жыл бұрын
FriendlyBaron nice! Aren’t we lucky?
@carljohnson2695 жыл бұрын
You make the best GTA V speed running videos, hands down. No one compares.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
not a competition with anyone, but glad ya like em :)
@blurview69045 жыл бұрын
I like how you show both the old and the new strats, and explain how they work. nice video!
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks! yeah for sure showing both makes it much more clearer whats going on
@RDSAlphard5 жыл бұрын
I had to check if I somehow had Gran Turismo running in the background, lol
@rokoradic60995 жыл бұрын
18:31 You laughing at "Commander Dick" is just so adorable.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
i didnt realized the name until i went to record it LOL
@ZellDen15 жыл бұрын
Hmm..
@pastas1813 жыл бұрын
@@ZellDen1 you are gae
@glebtulaev35455 жыл бұрын
It sounds friendly, very good. I like it when everyone is friendly
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
o rly
@julbarrier2 жыл бұрын
i mean i love it and the skills are amazing... but i don't get it
@SebiStr995 жыл бұрын
Intro song just threw me instantly back to Gran Turismo 4... Man, those were the days
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
i didnt even play GT games as a kid but have digged the music
@DarkStunter5 жыл бұрын
12:25 just a little correction. It was actually my idea to do this jump but masaboy provided you the gameplay :) Good video nevertheless :)
@Masaboy5 жыл бұрын
yepa ^^
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
aw heck i shoulda double checked, i had made those notes ages ago :)
@vukvucinic36855 жыл бұрын
True
@QuasoTheSapphicShipper5 жыл бұрын
Risky S T R A P KZbin subtitles 2019
@UndeniablyPotato5 жыл бұрын
I haven't played GTA 5 in years but I absolutely love your videos and always watch them :D
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@huberthigglebottom84605 жыл бұрын
10:51 *Hears GT3 GT Auto Theme* I see you're a man of culture as well
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
I think its actually GT4? heck idk but yes is good
@KownKR75 жыл бұрын
It's gt4
@molecularnut61224 жыл бұрын
Speedruner are the reason why i love video games and learn about its algorithm.
@May-gr8bp5 жыл бұрын
Your videos about GTAV speedrunning are my favourite ones. Looking forward for more gud content!
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@tntcake63275 жыл бұрын
Heck u and wintergatan uploaded at he same time, both are good idk who to watch first
@8BitRip5 жыл бұрын
It always a nice surprise to find someone who has the same viewing habits as me. Btw I learned how to say idea
@CommanderPiglet5 жыл бұрын
It's a difficult choice. Speed running or breaking thread taps
@Hawx325 жыл бұрын
Except it isn't Wednesday, my dude
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
watch both at the same time, duh
@Empyreanofthesun5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for crediting people! Nice video tho. I really enjoyed it.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
my older series, like casual vs speedrun, had 100s of strats and was basically impossible to credit people on, most of the information was just lost to time, 2013-2014 especially. but these new vids are doing up-to-date strats so i can make a proper effort to credit people in-the-moment.
@razorslazor60215 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron it's definetly better like this :D
@mrcrazernut5 жыл бұрын
7:07 you wrote Jewel Store Heist when it supposed to be Mr Philips
@europeanpatriot80315 жыл бұрын
He does that often
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
yeah its basically a tradition at this point, i finish the video at 3am, upload it and fall asleep. so tired even watching it back once to check stuff i miss 1-2 mistakes.
@finndahuman575 жыл бұрын
I just found double tapping a comment with a time stamp auto presses it
@InfinitiWorks5 жыл бұрын
Jesus this video got 1360 views in 2 minute! And you're also my most favourite youtuber so I'm happy that you got that much views this fast. Keep up the good work. I also learned a lot from your other videos It's really helpful. Thanks!
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
glad you enjoy :)
@katincko5 жыл бұрын
1:42 discovered by darkviperAU in his pacifist% Edit:2:09 he acctually says that
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
yeah viper didnt find it first, Mattie did and viper found a way to actually make it useful lol
@kratosjitra2337 Жыл бұрын
Never done a speedrun,but this explanation got me hooked
@FriendlyBaron Жыл бұрын
welcome to the rabbit hole, most people just watch speedruns instead of doing them, i was like that for ages!
@kratosjitra2337 Жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron fine work brother, it take hardwork and consistency to do a speedrun
@Joshie1175 жыл бұрын
A friendly video from friendly baron on my birthday, damn it feels like Christmas.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
Baronmas?
@pedrospeeder5 жыл бұрын
That Gran Turismo 4 soundtrack at the back tho... Nice
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
heck yeah
@engi35834 жыл бұрын
im not allowed to watch gta but i still watch
@skeel_89235 жыл бұрын
20 minute strat update video? Perfect.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
heck yeah was nice to make another long vid
@x_dexie19915 жыл бұрын
I don’t play gta, but it’s still satisfying to watch
@deldarel5 жыл бұрын
On Mondays I dread the week to come, but just seeing your vids in my feed calms me down. Can't wait to watch this thing in bed
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
i wanted to change my upload day to not be mondays anymore but so many people were sad when i changed it for one week LOL. gonna stay for now :)
@Mbrazzers5 жыл бұрын
When are you going to start the casual vs speedrun for gta sa?
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
soonish, im still working on learning the game to a point where im knowledgeable enough to teach others.
@Mbrazzers5 жыл бұрын
FriendlyBaron allright, i am really looking forward to that series, i also like your other vids😃
@Slimmeyy5 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron We better get a possibilty of a sub-6 run before that xD
@aleksanderkysiak95404 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron I see that there are only two parts of the GTA SA Casual vs Speedrun series. Why are you inactive on KZbin?
@Skinned_fried_n_cut_up_potato5 жыл бұрын
I still don’t like watching streams and/or speed runs but the amount of speedrun strats I now know is ridiculous.
@RachelWolfe5 жыл бұрын
Love the music. Good to see you sticking at it, Baron! 💜💜💜
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@o0o0o605 жыл бұрын
hey a strat for the mission father son,jump down the hill and it will trigger the checkpoint earlier and make the yatch truck push you
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
i think reloe mentioned this to me recently, will have to check...
@pkgfx4 жыл бұрын
omg the music ❤️❤️❤️ i miss those days playin gran turismo 4
@raigntk32945 жыл бұрын
Woo new strats! I look forward to seeing you improve!
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
yeah its two separate things really, improving the run's strats but also improving your own play. i could hammer another 2 minutes off the run just by perfecting the driving, and no other changes if i really worked at it
@raigntk32945 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron I would say perfect driving later, or at least somewhat later. I think some of your biggest saves could come from the sections where you get pushed from the cars trying to get in front of you. Granted I don't really know how much time this would actually save you on your runs.
@strangerdangerjake14135 жыл бұрын
I never play GTA 5 or watch streamers play it, this is the only GTA 5 related channel I watch
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
hey glad ya like it. i dont watch F1 but theres some YTs who are so passionate about it i like watching their vids lol
@jadenmoyers8372 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that the speed run for a game like this is this optimized
@Jonathan-sl2dd2 жыл бұрын
love your content and I think you deserve more subs keep up the good work
@ferdinandionita12163 жыл бұрын
Me watching the video without really understanding anything: I like your funny words magic man
@scottyy0074 жыл бұрын
Pause on 11:44 there’s a question mark on his head lol
@rtyomkv4 жыл бұрын
hilarious
@UnitedFeodor5 жыл бұрын
Like how Day Tripper starts playing as you talk about Chop
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
😎
@NOTABIGDODO5 жыл бұрын
11:43 i can see wuestion mark in Trevor's head.
@doorsnack84545 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, hopefully the algorithm will decide you’re worthy again. Fingers crossed.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
not yet, but hopefully eventually ITLL SHOW THE VIDEO TO MY OWN SUBS
@vinewoodlimitedpictures69785 жыл бұрын
lol that Gran Turismo shoppin beat in the background - awesome!!!
@WykydSpaceCat5 жыл бұрын
As soon as the video started I picked up on that gran turismo 4 music
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
heck yeah
@Jolielegal5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I find an optimized speedrun fascinating. Playing a game to the limit.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks, yeah thats the goal
@gustavodarosacunha4175 жыл бұрын
The running strat can be used in Repossession to get closer to the fence or to run through the alley on right and have the biker spawn in a different location. Both are quicker, but going right is a little harder because it is a hard turn while running that way
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
interesting never though of going right. though theres a new strat - just shoot the biker later - that way hes already facing the right way when you blap him.
@SgtPepper8925 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, I really enjoyed it. Love those updates!
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@klarastimelapses5 жыл бұрын
This music from Gran Turismo 4 ^^
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
heck yeah (and GT6)
@gloopytunes13465 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@mrquackalot5535 жыл бұрын
*Watching this video while struggling to get passed the loading screen*
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
i gotta start making 30 minute videos for that
@klonvomhaus5 жыл бұрын
even now, one just has to admire how beautiful this game still is.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
i recently raised my graphics settings, it could look much better even still
@klonvomhaus5 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron It's amazing what you can do with a proper engine. Same with RDR2. I play World of Warcraft a lot more recently, and people tell me how good the graphics of the current update are, and it's just the style of WoW.... And then I look at other games,... and what they can do...
@valebehunin4 жыл бұрын
watching this exactly one year later to see what has changed
@Dackered3 жыл бұрын
Some other speedrunner
@raghavbachheti3 жыл бұрын
@@Dackered Yeah 😂 This is his last video where matto will be featured 😂
@JuanAntonio6155 жыл бұрын
20 mins and no ads? I love u.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
means i cant make as many videos though, its a trade-off
@Exponaut_R-015 жыл бұрын
Baron already knows next year's strats. He has 20:20 vision.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
we just keep them hidden to dripfeed comment
@quis.j68445 жыл бұрын
This that PS3 Gran Turismo 4 background music. The nostalgia
@gloopytunes13465 жыл бұрын
hell yeah
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
heck yeah, it was GT6 music too
@L4dyElixa5 жыл бұрын
forgot to enable the bell last time i watched one of your videos, am now officially getting notifs for this quality shit
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
dingdong :)
@Speedy139965 жыл бұрын
I had a feeling i heard the name reloe before. When i saw the world of warcraft profile pic on discord it hit me. What a small world we live in.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
yeah haha its a small world sometimes
@JosephBallin3204 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny how people when so fast in the Jewel Store heist that they lost time because of their immense speed
@finnqwert74095 жыл бұрын
its so weird to have known reloe for his weakaura packs and then suddenly hear him all over your videos
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
haha yeah apparently hes a somebody in WoW too. i used to be a "someone" in minecraft and people recognize me from there too
@strufaux99595 жыл бұрын
Look Ma, I'm in the video! And he said my name right...what a time to be alive haha
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
AHAHA! i wanted to ask you how to say it but didnt have time, went for the guess
@cark10195 жыл бұрын
This is a great video btw Baron
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@cark10195 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron btw I talked to you on discord my tag is Я люблю единорогов 05 # 0803
@adnansadi22465 жыл бұрын
Nice video baron 😊👍
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
hey thanks :)
@zapphire34565 жыл бұрын
Reloe be finding every strat now
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
Reloe's always been great at high level strats, and Dew's been killing it with tiny but useful optimizations.
@xanthangum12174 жыл бұрын
Gran Turismo music 😢🔥The dayss
@vexuspvp75904 жыл бұрын
Commenting on this cool video with 20:20 length ON 2020 HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
@UnseasonedCabbage5 жыл бұрын
That Gran Turismo 4 menu background music
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
its actually remixes of GT4 songs that were used in GT6 (i think)
@animeguy47625 жыл бұрын
Me:plays GTA 5 for 3 years and cant complete the game FriendlyBaron:let's just see new strats for GTA 5 speedrun!
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
hey play the game however you enjoy it. or just mission skip :^)
@petru_idk62454 жыл бұрын
I found you and i like ur content.... From u i heard about viper and now i watch u both
@BrickedUpp5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid as always! Very informative even though I don’t speed run lol
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks! i dont play Football but still watch the NFL. not saying im an athlete but same concept ya kno
@williammcintosh52045 жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m not friendlybaron and I’m here to watch you talk about speedrunning
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
:)
@jamalmalik25625 жыл бұрын
When are you going to do GTA San Andreas speed run?
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
soonish. you can see my progress on wednesday streams if curious
@stabbs_155 жыл бұрын
Love the GT4 background music haha
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
heck yeah
@mymaingotbanned_not58165 жыл бұрын
4:31 RDR2 Players: looks around nervously.
@talentleesdorito97714 жыл бұрын
Those damm trees are moving
@mirhanhuric89275 жыл бұрын
The kalahari strat better be in that risky strat video >:)
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
will be for sure!
@WifiThing5 жыл бұрын
12:00 "Weft side of the city"
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
english is hard
@WifiThing5 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron it is hard And i loveee your vids I sometimes use speedrun strats just playing like normal mode and most i got from yo. welp ima fanboying
@andrewarmstrong35475 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the time by the time GTA 6 comes out!
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
so in another 10 years :^)
@andrewarmstrong35475 жыл бұрын
exactly
@Silvahhhhhhhhhh5 жыл бұрын
That delicious GT4 song
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
heck yeah
@Cherzy5 жыл бұрын
don’t really comment a lot, but i love the background music
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks :) i found a GT6 playlist im just using lol
@Cherzy5 жыл бұрын
FriendlyBaron well keep it up, i’m sure we will all enjoy it 😊
@professionalbusinessman29035 жыл бұрын
GT4 music in the video is fucking beautiful I love the music from that game so much
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
i didnt even play it as a kid but love it now
@garlicbreadbeans5 жыл бұрын
love the gran turismo 4 ome screen music
@deadxpool45534 жыл бұрын
The fact that this video length is 20:20 scares me
@dupdog125 жыл бұрын
You should make a series explaining how new strats were discovered
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
This is that series.
@Drexcyia5 жыл бұрын
Can we appreciate the granturismo music
@themomorain3 жыл бұрын
New strat: Insult “every other” speedrunner => quit speed running
@hikineet1772 жыл бұрын
🤓
@Dark_Daedalus5 жыл бұрын
I don’t appreciate you calling me weird, dude. Great video as always bud.
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
ur just a lil odd, pal
@primusoriginal86485 жыл бұрын
thanks for improving and becoming a better person I noticed that. gg
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
yeah i only made one editing mistake this time :^) lol
@NFS4LFE5 жыл бұрын
Good use of GT4 music c:
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
heck yeah! its some GT6 stuff too
@nicopotter69835 жыл бұрын
Saw these strats on the GDQ run :( love the video though
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
not all of them were in the GDQ run, but most were :)
@lfcmuh35285 жыл бұрын
Loving the videos
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@alexandarvelchev89975 жыл бұрын
Nice video man ❤️
@ashraf93595 жыл бұрын
Alexandar Velchev you haven’t watched it though.
@alexandarvelchev89975 жыл бұрын
@@ashraf9359 i know its gonna be good like all his videos
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
thanks lol
@Thiennnnnn5 жыл бұрын
Did you see vipers requested strat on paleto score? It is to throw a Molotov as Michael and he won’t be slowed down and have full running ability
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
yeah. its not actually faster as you have to spend time picking up the mollys. we kind of have a chance to get them now, but shooting as franklin is still faster when done well, and the molotov thing isnt consistent.
@Maske44 жыл бұрын
This actually saves 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds *but time is time*
@antonholm25 жыл бұрын
This may be a really dumb question since you runners prob already tried this. But in Pack Man(driving Devins cars upp to paleto), why dont you jump down into the dry canal(dont know what its called tbh) right at the start and then jump back up by the train yard? I would assume you tried it and its slower but shouldnt you be able to kerb-bosst and keep a higher speed on the concrete than when you otherwise pull out on the train tracks?
@FriendlyBaron5 жыл бұрын
tried that, its slower. the kerbs from going up/down the canal sides just arent worth it, and you don't carry enough speed into the dirt uphill onto the freeway to make it cleanly up
@antonholm25 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyBaron Alright sounds reasonable, thanks for the reply :)
@mr_ducka25104 жыл бұрын
In 2023, how I beat gta V in 3 minutes and 23 seconds