'69 Princeton Reverb.....Badly Burned, Brutally Botched, and (finally) Reborn

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Uncle Doug

Uncle Doug

5 жыл бұрын

This video records the challenging restoration of a 1969 Fender Princeton Reverb which was badly burned in a fire. The chassis was rescued by the owner, who hand-built a beautiful, original-looking replacement cabinet with a nice Jensen speaker and new Accutronics reverb tank......then, very sadly, it was turned over to a local "technician" who proceeded to mis-wire it badly, with several short circuits, missing wires and connections, and improper component values, creating a dysfunctional nightmare.
In desperation, it was sent to me for repair.....and presented one of the biggest repair challenges I have ever faced. This video follows the step-by-step elimination of (hopefully) all the previous mistakes, resulting in one of the best sounding PR's I have ever heard. I hope you agree :)
In response to viewer requests, I have focused on relating schematics to actual circuits, given detailed explanations of why certain repairs work, and thoroughly discussed pertinent tube amp circuitry details......all in an attempt to maximize the educational content of this video.
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Thanks so much !!!

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@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
NOTES: 1.) I have upgraded to a broadband Internet provider, with uploads that are now 10X faster. I believe this has resulted in improved audio and video. See what you think. 2.) I did not realize during video production that the owner actually hand-built the replica cabinet, using vintage Fender Tolex. It completely fooled me. I thought it was an original replacement.
@gerthalberg9735
@gerthalberg9735 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle - right on regarding video & audio
@freepress8451
@freepress8451 5 жыл бұрын
Another fine video - do you celebrate Pancake Day (Shrove Tuesday) in US?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. No, we only celebrate Catnip Day......every day :)
@peterespada6226
@peterespada6226 5 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your videos a couple months
@peterespada6226
@peterespada6226 5 жыл бұрын
ago and am amazed with your deep erudition regarding electronics. Were you once a college professor or teacher in this field? I’ve learned so much so easily that I had always wondered about watching your videos...
@Bbendfender
@Bbendfender 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I am the owner of this little Princeton Reverb. I just had to save it when I saw it. I'm not a tech so I let a "friend" look at it. He tried but couldn't do the job correctly. Along with this Princeton Reverb I also got a '63 Fender Bandmaster that was in the same burned condition of the Princeton. When I can afford it, I may get it refurbished. I know it will be another great amp. I am thankful to Uncle Doug for his great work.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments, Bob. I hope you enjoyed the video. The PR is now one of the best sounding ones I have ever heard. We can talk about the Bandmaster. Hopefully, it hasn't been worked on previously. Also, the replica cabinet you constructed is truly outstanding. You have done us all a great favor by saving this badly damaged PR from the landfill.
@edwardebel1847
@edwardebel1847 Ай бұрын
Your channel is the "Watch Mr. Wizard" for us aging children. So much education "disguised" as entertainment...or is it the other way around? I wish my electronic technology classes had been this engaging. Again, THANKS! 😊
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Ай бұрын
High praise indeed, Edward. Thanks !!
@coronadofishingclub3478
@coronadofishingclub3478 5 жыл бұрын
Warm regards Uncle Doug. I enter into chemo therapy for lymphoma tomorrow and I hope to see some more videos to help me pass the time in the hospital. I wish your videos had been available 20 years ago when I started teaching myself about tube electronics, I could’ve avoided many mistakes. Thank you so much for taking the time to clarify and demystify this stuff! Once I beat the cancer I’m gonna start a new amp build and I owe it to you for re kindling my fascination for this wacky stuff. Cheers, Tim.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
We are all wishing you the very best for a successful treatment and full recovery, Tim. The world needs all the tube amp lovers it can get. Your presence is definitely required.....so get well quick !!!
@willford8475
@willford8475 5 жыл бұрын
Good Luck, Mate. 👍
@lousekoya1803
@lousekoya1803 5 жыл бұрын
We wanna see you back here in shape soon !!........Regards!...........Lou from Canada !!
@FishnMusician
@FishnMusician 5 жыл бұрын
Tim, get well soon man. You have folks pulling for you, whether you know it or not. Hoping for the best! Take care, and the very best of luck to you and yours.
@tatialo37
@tatialo37 4 жыл бұрын
Praying for you!!!
@justinbouchard
@justinbouchard 5 жыл бұрын
The alliteration in the title is fantastically fundamental for fixing fender flubs.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
It sums up some serious shortcomings in the circuit :)
@jagtone
@jagtone 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug -- serious circuit silliness.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Amen, Ben :)
@iskandertime747
@iskandertime747 5 жыл бұрын
Well done sir, well done.
@goodun6081
@goodun6081 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug , Snappy soldering, savvy skills, scientific study, and steely resolve surely solve somebody else's stupid snafus.
@deadfreightwest5956
@deadfreightwest5956 5 жыл бұрын
_"With the axe in one hand, and the guitar in the other... which sounds redundant..."_ - I burst out laughing at that one. I don't even play guitar, but I got it.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, DF. Fortunately, I didn't get mixed up and play the axe while chopping with the guitar :)
@ronniecastellanos8223
@ronniecastellanos8223 4 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug Uncle doug I need app doctor I've been using amp for music on my phone during family functions and she started to smell smoky what do I do help Uncle duggy
@JalopyTechnology
@JalopyTechnology 5 ай бұрын
I saw Uncle Doug at the ER the same day he had his finger repaired. In my case it was an index finger nail was charred by a 6v6... We both sat in the corner wearing dunce caps.
@izzysantiago978
@izzysantiago978 5 жыл бұрын
The 2 thumbs down are the 2 idiots that messed up the wiring on this amp.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
.......and their reward will be a colonoscopy with the unbiased 6V6 that blistered my finger :)
@HasteFrankie
@HasteFrankie 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug ha! they deserve it. Hope that heals up quick. thank you for the great content as always!
@freepress8451
@freepress8451 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug Ouch
@jagtone
@jagtone 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@WCM1945
@WCM1945 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug _However..._ You _did_ notice the cherry-red plates, didn't you? Shouldn't that have given you a clue as to the temp of the tubes? I share you dissatisfaction with the "tech" who did the original work... He either didn't check his work for function, or just didn't give a s**t. I made some wiring errors in my time, but I would **_*never_* have let an amp in that condition leave my workbench.
@rogerraven6976
@rogerraven6976 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the importance of the beaver dam in reverb setup.
@johntempleton6368
@johntempleton6368 5 жыл бұрын
You're spot on about the matching of the output tubes. A small to moderate difference in idle current does provide more harmonic content. I've found that once the difference goes beyond the 5 - 8 ma range that a bit of hum creeps in because the common mode rejection of noise is reduced. Great tip. Your trem mods are another killer tip that I've happily borrowed and used. Love your videos.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, John. Yes, excessive mismatch can result in reduced hum cancellation and core saturation......so it must be kept within reasonable limits.
@fiddlix
@fiddlix 5 жыл бұрын
I have been doing this as well for years. We are talking about making music. Not reproducing it...!!
@hallanvaara6106
@hallanvaara6106 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried mismatched output tubes but Doug's theory about them makes perfect sense to me.
@Geopholus
@Geopholus 7 ай бұрын
This is a well known effect in electronic music (pulse width variation) if the upper going, wave is related to the bottom going wave by 3/4 or 4/3 it adds some pleasing even harmonics, though I'd rather be in control. of that by my playing style, picking closer the the bridge or the neck.
@gitargris
@gitargris 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! The audio is 100x better! Thanks! Now we can really bask in the sounds of all your great old amps!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, OR. I changed to a broadband Internet provider (120Mb/sec) and now the videos take 20 minutes to upload instead of 4 hours. I think the slow upload was degrading them.
@williamproctor4925
@williamproctor4925 4 жыл бұрын
I very much enjoyed the video on the restoration of a 1969 Fender Princeton Reverb which was badly burned in a fire. I have been experimenting with a tube amp for a while now. Your insights on the workings of the tube amp are in greater detail than the information I received for ITT. Thank you for you video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, William. Glad you liked it :)
@vhollund
@vhollund 4 жыл бұрын
I love watching this pretending i understand more than half of what's going on Maybe if i watch enough I'll learn it
@soulvaccination8679
@soulvaccination8679 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what i do...Ijust keep watching it and watching it and all of a sudden i get a moment of clarity .
@Dennis-mq6or
@Dennis-mq6or 3 жыл бұрын
@@soulvaccination8679 Same here!
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 5 жыл бұрын
100% agreed on tube mismatching.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Brad :)
@fiddlix
@fiddlix 4 жыл бұрын
The Guitologist I could not agree more.
@Dennis-mq6or
@Dennis-mq6or 3 жыл бұрын
Matched tubes might have eliminated that very small bit hum that was left in the amp because the hum would have been cancelled in the output transformer The only way to know for sure is to ground the input to the phase inverter. One other possible solution would have been to add a 100 ohm potentiometer between the two 100 ohm 'phantom ground' resistors with it's wiper attached to ground. Then adjusting that pot might be able to 'null out' the remaining hum.
@cawfeedawg
@cawfeedawg 5 жыл бұрын
Doug you have super powers with bringing these beauties back to life.. we don't however want to see you in a cape and tights. 🤣
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. No you don't, CD. In fact several of the neighbors have restraining orders against my donning such attire :)
@smasica
@smasica 5 жыл бұрын
I'm reluctant to slag anyone else's work, but that amp tech must have worked on the amp after a rough night at the club. Wow, rookie mistakes galore. Doug, I respect your methodical, meticulous craftsmanship. I learn a bunch with every new video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, TM. In this case the previous work is condemnation enough :) Thanks !!!
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks 4 жыл бұрын
Woodman spare that amp! Another detective story of impeccable perspicacity. As it is often said: "You can't buy experience."
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nick. Be sure to watch my latest video on the Gibson ga55v cabinet :)
@PrinceWesterburg
@PrinceWesterburg 5 жыл бұрын
Ace video - its nearly 3am but I'm so happy! Thanks for the plate current maths and tremolo mods, much appreciated.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Prince :)
@kendavis8046
@kendavis8046 5 жыл бұрын
Great trouble shooting and restoration of a classic amp. Thanks, Uncle Doug. If there is a future Sergio Leone, this amp can make the soundtrack! (To most young folks, that is likely a totally obscure reference.) Thumbs up!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Ken. The next time Sergio is over to visit with Jack & Ollie, I'll suggest it to him :)
@renegade44040
@renegade44040 5 жыл бұрын
Don't like to but in...but let's give credit where it's due. Ennio Morricone is Sergio Leone's composer.
@goodun6081
@goodun6081 5 жыл бұрын
A modern Sergio Leone movie will be titled *Twice* Upon a Time in the West. The music will be by Eno Morracowbell.....
@kendavis8046
@kendavis8046 5 жыл бұрын
@@goodun6081 He has a fever! And the only cure is Morracowbell.
@leonardodic3po607
@leonardodic3po607 5 жыл бұрын
It seems like the wiring of this amp was done by Sergio Aragonês!
@PLINKER
@PLINKER 4 жыл бұрын
Wow sounds great Uncle Doug. your touch is just what that mess needed.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tom.
@murratosmani6517
@murratosmani6517 5 жыл бұрын
This was a hard test! Glad that B+ was not connected to the input jacks and nobody has been killed.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad too, Murrat......and a little surprised that it wasn't :)
@paulcargo4233
@paulcargo4233 5 жыл бұрын
Lets review today's lesson: Electricity like most people will take the path of least resistance.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
So it seems, Paul :)
@guitarocd9984
@guitarocd9984 5 жыл бұрын
My father was a ham radio operator. He built his own radios. I came home one day he was sitting in his chair with a spaced-out look on his face. He grabbed the wrong thing. Electricity went through his hand and blew a 2 inch hole in his leg. The doctor said it could have went to his member. LOL
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thank God he wasn't sitting on a metal stool, GO.
@guitarocd9984
@guitarocd9984 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing that happened from it was he was mellow for a couple weeks.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
@@guitarocd9984 I guess a shock once in a while is good for the soul :)
@budandbean1
@budandbean1 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Uncle Doug, this was really interesting. Excellent troubleshooting, really a fine job! Thanks for the tips about the virtual center tap too, you’ve gone over this a few times before but this time it really clicked. I just happen to have a solid state PA amp that has been humming a tiny bit since I bought it years ago that I’m going to see it this might knock that hum out of. Greatly appreciated, Buddy
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Buddy. Thanks for all your very nice comments.
@Magikflame
@Magikflame 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug I've just thoroughly enjoyed watching this vid and subbed. Yes I came across this type of thing many many years ago where there was a say 220 ohm pot across the filament winding with the wiper to earth marked as a.... Humdinger !!!! which I believe was in an old reel to reel....
@ourlifeinwyoming4654
@ourlifeinwyoming4654 7 ай бұрын
It's amazing how connecting wires where they're supposed to go improves tone. This little guy was worth the effort - sounds amazing!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, OL :)
@timothyandrews2157
@timothyandrews2157 4 ай бұрын
Awesome Job Uncle Doug. I'm appreciating your videos so much more, after slowly putting what you've taught me through the years, to good use. Thanks again.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, Tim. The learning process is definitely cumulative :)
@sting1111
@sting1111 4 жыл бұрын
Botched and baked, a classic!
@jagtone
@jagtone 5 жыл бұрын
Some people who never crank the reverb to that extreme will sub a 2M2 for the 3M3, which gives a more useable range for the reverb and gives the amp a bit more gain. But 3k3--OMG, no. Anyway, nice job on the forensics and the fixes. What great amps those are.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ben. Good advice :)
@mfowler8808
@mfowler8808 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Doug your educating your viewers nicely. I love fixing these old Fender amps. Keep it up!
@Mauitaoist
@Mauitaoist 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished rebuilding my Princeton thanks for all your help I have a 1966 original vintage
@UBOOFTB
@UBOOFTB 5 жыл бұрын
Dear UD. It is Saturday afternoon, 1955. The band is practicing for the dance that night, and the tube dies in my amp. What do I do? I go down to the drugstore and buy a tube, pray when I put it in the amp it will work.Thank God, it works!. I can play at the dance tonight. Didn't even think about tube matching for a minute. :>) I love your videos don't ever stop!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Those were the days, UB. I remember the big tube tester at the local Gunning Casteel (drug store) where you could test your tubes and buy new ones for 50 cents apiece.
@grb1184
@grb1184 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug My dad Ray had one at his stores, Colony Drugs and before that Orange Hill both in St. Pete Fla. My love for his love of this stuff brought me here.
@WileECoyotey
@WileECoyotey 5 жыл бұрын
I remember tube testers in the 5&10 stores and Ace hardware .
@ObiTrev
@ObiTrev 4 жыл бұрын
"Do it right or don't do it at all" - Everyone who does it right
@davidausterman5915
@davidausterman5915 4 жыл бұрын
...and botched. I'm glad to see you resurrected this one before the bad re-wire job finished off what the house fire started.
@MajRatbag
@MajRatbag 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Doug and very nicely tuned tremolo and reverb, sounds excellent.
@midnightraiin4035
@midnightraiin4035 5 жыл бұрын
grab your surf board, we've got REvERB:)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Darn right, MR. Time for Jack to "Hang 8".......dew claws don't count.
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 4 жыл бұрын
27:31...the amplifier hums because it doesn't know the words(?)
@dalerobinson3091
@dalerobinson3091 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, a lot of wiring errors you tracked down; great work. The amp owner will appreciate the reborn amp.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
It was a real challenge, Dale. Thanks.
@glenncollins4778
@glenncollins4778 4 жыл бұрын
Truly a joy to listen to and watch Uncle Doug
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Glenn.
@justinoneil6971
@justinoneil6971 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, I talked to Jack Allen today about Darrel Braun’s review of the Stage Right 15 watt. He mentioned sending you some stuff and here we are...opening it up! What a crazy world we live in today
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, Jack was kind enough to send me the Alamo Futura and reverb tank shown in the video. It is indeed a small world.
@justinoneil6971
@justinoneil6971 5 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug I can make it even smaller, or at least more coincidental. I, too, live in Oklahoma and my son is named “Jack Allen O’Neil” Almost spooky.
@stratdude83
@stratdude83 4 жыл бұрын
The bias is set to about 900 watts! That had me rolling 😂
@blairmulhall9259
@blairmulhall9259 4 ай бұрын
Uncle Doug is an invaluable resource, his note not to screw the reverb tank down too tight is on the money. I was once trouble shooting a reverb circuit that was feeding back uncontrollably and loosening the hold down screws solved the issue.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words and helpful input, Blair.
@bruceeverett1993
@bruceeverett1993 3 жыл бұрын
You almost( I say that with great respect) make it look easy. Glad there’s guys like you around! Thanks
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bruce.
@bemi-ton
@bemi-ton 5 жыл бұрын
luckily enough there was no (virtual) center tap before as the plate was shorted to the filaments ;)
@chrisleech1565
@chrisleech1565 5 жыл бұрын
Just had an idea for a series Uncle Doug, how about a Build-along-with-Doug ...DIY_Tube_Amp and one effects pedal. Plus a Speaker box or integrated like the Princeton etc. One of my favorite amps is the Roland Jazz Chorus 120 and I would love to make a smaller version of same for instance. It has stereo chorusing between each of its twin 12" speakers OMG it sounds good!! You could consider a thru hole kit build from Aliexpress maybe. Just a thought, but you could manage several vids out of that venture and have a blast at the same time.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion, Chris. I have posted several video series that show all the steps in building an amp at home......strictly all-tube and point-to-point wiring.
@Murry_in_Arizona
@Murry_in_Arizona 5 жыл бұрын
Doug how tough would it be to modify a standard tremolo ( Ive got a 65 princeton reissue) or build a seperate pedal for the early 60's harmonic tremolo? I think the Lads at That Pedal Show with blues player Joey Landreth started a trend last year when they featured Joey and his vintage amps as a half a dozen new pedals with harmonic tremolo have come out.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
If by Harmonic Tremolo, you mean the Fender circuit used in amps like the Brownface Concert, it would be a somewhat challenging multi-tube build. I would recommend that you watch my video on building a Rick-Tone Tremo-Boost. It's a relatively easy build with an inexpensive power supply and great tube tremolo effect.
@Murry_in_Arizona
@Murry_in_Arizona 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug "Harmonic Tremolo" is the part that's fascinating me U.D. The amp in question was a brown 1960 Super. Supro makes a pedal that approximates it ($250-$300) I'm at the beginner stage probably not a beginner project. FTR I've watched most of, if not all of your episodes ;0) long story short, I'm a 60 yr old retired/disabled Phx cop somehow Andertons music UK showed up in my YT feed 3 years ago and I got hooked on their guitar paradiso episodes which lead to following Mick Taylor to That Pedal show which lead to you and D-Labs when I started investigating tube amps after taking the guitar back up (starting as therapy for my hands after spinal cord injuries) after a 35 year hiatus.
@MrUbiquitousTech
@MrUbiquitousTech 5 жыл бұрын
When I first got into tube radio repair I bought this sad sack of a radio off of ebay. It did not work, nothing happened when you turned it on. I did the shot-gun recapping that newbies are told to do, check the tubes, power switch, etc. Got the schematic, scratched my head over it for a while before I realized (newbie recall) that someone in the past had removed the canned-ohm resistor from the radio, wired the radio with it out of circuit and no replacement resistors! Then to add insult to injury they ran both side of the line cord to one tube. So hot and common through the switch and then to different pins on the rectifier. And no power going anywhere else...... And it all looked like old work so it happened a long time ago. _Not_ a good radio to start on. Nicely done on that one Doug, sounds awesome! Glad the skin graft went well. ;o) The owner did a stellar job recreating that cabinet, never would have guessed that.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
The really tough challenges are often the best learning experiences, Shy. Thanks !!
@TheFlyingRobert
@TheFlyingRobert 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uncle Doug, your energy and enthusiasm is very inspiring.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Robert :) Thanks !!
@billmiller7138
@billmiller7138 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, for blues harp I've been running intentionally mismatched output tube pairs for many years. Stumbled on it accidentally and it just sounded better to me.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, Bill. The reason choirs sound so good is that everyone has a different voice.....and the blend is both complex and rich.
@pharmerdavid1432
@pharmerdavid1432 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug Brilliant analogy, and we too love your videos!
@0richbike
@0richbike 5 жыл бұрын
A little bit of knowledge... Did the "rewired" amp start the fire?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
If it had been allowed to remain "on" for very long, I think the unbiased 6V6 would have probably incinerated the entire block. Actually, I think it was a house fire and the amp, which was in good shape at the time, was a victim......not a cause.
@russellesimonetta3835
@russellesimonetta3835 5 жыл бұрын
Like uncle doug sez if the amp looks altered keep the fire extinquisher handy and the fire department on speed dial.
@goodun6081
@goodun6081 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug , I personally know of several cases where solid state, transistorized audio amplifiers or Hi-Fi stereos that were DC coupled and that did not have output relays, or even fuses, between the amplifier and the speakers, actually failed sufficiently to send full B+ ( anywhere from 35 volts to 150 volts, depending on the amplifier) through to the speakers and caused them to catch fire. Whenever we fix an amplifier like this at the stereo repair shop I work for, we add fuses inside the amp or supply appropriately-sized fuses and fuse holders and instruct the customer how to add them into the system between the speakers and the amplifier. The danger is if the stereo is left on while someone is away from home, or at night when everyone is sleeping, you risk Burning Down the House and maybe the occupants with it. Fortunately, most modern amplifiers , at least those used in a home audio situation, will have time delay relays that not only let the amplifier stabilize for a couple of seconds before turning on the output to the speakers, but that also disconnect the speaker wires from the amplifier internally if they sense a significant fault, any DC voltage that would cause speaker damage or worse. It bears mentioning that many high power PA amplifiers do not have relays and might not have speaker protection fuses either. A tube guitar amp, by comparison, is unlikely to set the speaker on fire, unless the output Transformer short circuits, however A Fault In The Amplifier can easily burn resistors and capacitors, then the wiring and the cabinet catches fire. or the tubes get so hot from lack of negative bias that they become cherry red glowing radiant heaters and set the cabinet and speaker on fire.
@DarthEcoli
@DarthEcoli 5 жыл бұрын
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. " There's a good reason many of us choose to continue to learn before jumping into something we might make a complete mess of. Bertrand Russell couldn't have spoken truer words regarding this mess. Thank the gods you're a great troubleshooter.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Nice quotation, Paul......and never more accurate than in today's society.
@Tonetwisters
@Tonetwisters 2 жыл бұрын
Not an amp tech here, but much agreed on the improved sound of mis-matched Output tubes ... I came from the old school where we knew nothing about matching tubes ... we just used what we had and made it work.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your supportive input, TT.
@phonotical
@phonotical 5 жыл бұрын
Woo
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Hoo !
@drteming70
@drteming70 5 жыл бұрын
Hear, hear. I purposely mismatch my output tubes in my push-pull amps. More sweet 2nd order harmonics.
@guitarocd9984
@guitarocd9984 5 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about circuitry in amps. but was your statement based in science. Or just what you hear.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that I am not alone in this discovery. Let's hope people become more aware of the benefits of mismatching :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
@@guitarocd9984 Both. I have seen harmonic spectral analysis from perfectly matched vs mismatched output tubes. The spectrum is more complex for the mismatched......primarily even-order harmonics. To my ear, mismatched yields fuller, more musical output. The bottom line, however, is how it sounds to you. Do your own experimentation and see what you think.
@guitarocd9984
@guitarocd9984 5 жыл бұрын
Okay I only commented because this was a new one on me. Good to know I'll definitely try it. My dad used to laugh at me when I used to tell him there is a difference in tubes. He was old school. He was dealing with televisions and Ham radios not guitar amplifiers. He's passed on but I never could convince him.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
@@guitarocd9984 Don't be afraid to experiment with speakers either. Try a ceramic and an Alnico in the same 2 x 12 enclosure. You'll be surprised by how great they sound together.
@thomasburnett4712
@thomasburnett4712 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Another great learning experience from Uncle Doug. Thank so much my friend!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Thomas.
@russellsmith4615
@russellsmith4615 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these videos, Uncle Doug - I've learned so much from your video tutorials - they're thorough, well explained, and entertaining. I've been doing refurbish work on 3 Fender amps of my own as well as 3 others by friends and band mates thanks to you an a couple of others who are so kind to share their wealth of knowledge.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Russell. I'm glad the videos were helpful.
@W.E.
@W.E. 5 жыл бұрын
04:07 How does a Fender amp chassis code of A 22264 mean 1969? Inquiring minds want to know. :)
@erikjohansson1814
@erikjohansson1814 5 жыл бұрын
Wayne Elliott I’d love to know the answer too...
@budandbean1
@budandbean1 5 жыл бұрын
You have to look this one up. Fender Silver-face Princeton Reverb amps with code A21500 to A25500 were built in 1969. I have a little cheat sheet but there are tons of web sites that list the Fender number scheme.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Buddy. You are right on the money :) Since the serial number was close to 21500, you can assume it was made early in the year's run.
@W.E.
@W.E. 5 жыл бұрын
@@budandbean1 Thanks guys; I had looked at this page superficially: www.superiormusic.com/page195.htm ... and saw "S" relating to 1969, but ... if one goes further down on the page on the right, the TRUTH will be found!
@budandbean1
@budandbean1 5 жыл бұрын
@Wayne Elliott You know, if I had read that page, written like it is, I’d be a bit confused too. 😉
@billedwards2657
@billedwards2657 5 жыл бұрын
I’d bet mojotone would have a rear face plate.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
I'll let the owner know, Bill.
@Starcrunch72
@Starcrunch72 5 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug Yup $24.60 SKU # 9131521
@Bbendfender
@Bbendfender 5 жыл бұрын
@@Starcrunch72 I ordered a back plate yesterday for the amp.
@strangersound
@strangersound 5 жыл бұрын
Best teacher ever. Thanks, Doug. You make a circuit easy to understand. :) As for the people who wasted money on an incompetent tech...the end result is seeing Doug fix it and teach us the whole she-bang and then some (43:00). So, I'd say that was money well spent. :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, SS. We really appreciate it :)
@josephmagedanz4070
@josephmagedanz4070 4 жыл бұрын
Great save and lots of good teaching to boot. That's one of the things I like most about your channel. Thanks, UD.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Joseph. Thanks so much :)
@chokkan7
@chokkan7 5 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain that Mojotone has interchangeable panels such as you're seeking, Uncle Doug. In addition, if needed, I can put you in touch with a vendor who can do these at very reasonable prices, although he doesn't attempt to do Fender copies...let me know... In an age of oppressive conformity such as we find ourselves, your occasional blasphemy is most welcome...
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, the owner will follow through with either Mojotone or your source, C7, to obtain a replacement rear panel. Yes, indeed, we specialize in blasphemy......indeed, we revel in it :)
@Intrinsic.Recording
@Intrinsic.Recording 5 жыл бұрын
After watching a second time with no distractions...it's little wonder there was a fire. Owner should be ecstatic with the amp now. Great job man.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
He seems to be, JP. Thanks !!!
@spazimdam
@spazimdam 3 жыл бұрын
Very good demonstration of proper repair procedure. Always a treat to watch your vids Uncle Doug; they confirm methods that I have found valuable in years of tube amp repair, and a few valuable insights that are new to me. Too cool.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Monte. We're glad the video was informative.
@rockgtr35
@rockgtr35 4 жыл бұрын
These are just the best videos of this kind. Excellent explanations, camera work, and commentary!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Jason. We appreciate it :)
@Finom1
@Finom1 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Uncle Doug for bringing another vintage tube back from the grave, Great educational video once again,
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, F1.
@sonicweaver
@sonicweaver 5 жыл бұрын
Another stellar & entertaining restoration...nice job Doug!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, SW :)
@arthurvandelay7677
@arthurvandelay7677 3 жыл бұрын
I'm about two years late to this party, but this is a great video. I just wanted to add based on your comment about re-wiring...the worst thing any customer could say to me when I was a TV repairman was, "Well, I tried to fix it myself..." Me: (facepalm).
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Arthur. Agreed :)
@birkettaustin
@birkettaustin 5 жыл бұрын
so many rookie mistakes from a so called tech. another great restoration uncle doug!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Austin :)
@andrewhodgson8895
@andrewhodgson8895 3 жыл бұрын
I think I’ve learned more from you in a week than I learned from 10 years at school. Thanks, Uncle Doug. 👍
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it, Andrew. Thanks for watching :)
@andyk295
@andyk295 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks Uncle Doug. i just acquired a Princeton Reverb SF and am in the process of restoring it. Your videos help so much.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, Andy. Best of luck with your project.
@kevinwilkins9926
@kevinwilkins9926 5 жыл бұрын
Looks and sounds good. Great troubleshooting Uncle Doug. Really appreciate you sharing these videos.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kevin :)
@Kilovolver
@Kilovolver 5 жыл бұрын
It’s that time FELLAS! UD and chill! Thanks for the new up UD, this channels is about to blow, I can feel it
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
If by "blow" you mean exceed all expectations, then I'm down with that, K :)
@markanthony653
@markanthony653 4 жыл бұрын
This guy could be a multi-millionaire(if he's not already) the way he fixes these amplifiers, truly one of the only people I've ever seen that can fix a amp properly, and more importantly you could trust!!! Hell, I trust him with my Marshall.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Mark. I'm actually working on my second million dollars......I gave up on the first one :)
@thome1547
@thome1547 5 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug, great job as usual, never believe in anything others have done (or messed up). Keep it up.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, TM. We will :)
@stephenbunton2159
@stephenbunton2159 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you completely about output tubes sounding better when they are slightly miss matched. Really cool amplifier! Great job once again.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
So far the response to my "shocking" assertion has been 100% positive, Stephen.....thank heavens. It really is blasphemous.....but true :) Thanks so much !!
@fiddlix
@fiddlix 5 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct about using slightly mismatched output tubes. I am glad someone else agrees with me. I'll bet Brad Lindzy would agree too.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, David. It's time that more people became aware of this.
@82abn34
@82abn34 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uncle Doug. Reminds me of a time I showed up to repair an electric forklift and found the house techs and already had a go. The thing was in many pieces and both techs were flummoxed. It took me several hours to reassemble before I could start the troubleshooting procedure. It turned out to be an intermittent control pot. This was always the first thing I checked for given the symptoms reported for the problem. It wasn't their fault. Their boss wanted them to take a crack at it before they called me. Those guy's were engine mechanics. They tried to save a little and winded up paying much more. Thanks to you and others, I have begun learning about tube circuits. I just refurbished a Heathkit VTVM and it works. Now I can watch a needle sweep with a high impedance meter instead of the old Simpson 260. Thanks again.
@michaelmcginley7412
@michaelmcginley7412 5 жыл бұрын
So great! Thanks, Doug. I really appreciate how you examine and explain the schematic, and then show where it is in the actual amp. It brings the whole thing together and makes it so much easier to understand.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Michael :)
@michaelmcginley7412
@michaelmcginley7412 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, and not to bother you, but I think you might enjoy this podcast. It's called "The truth about vintage amps." www.fretboardjournal.com/podcasts/the-truth-about-tube-amps-ep.-1/
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link, Michael. I will check it out when I get some free time.
@hv8546
@hv8546 4 жыл бұрын
What a treat, with a nice touch of suspense when you cranked the reverb pot for the last time. It must be a real satisfaction when you figure out the problem in such conditions. ps. you have been a great companion during my boring daily guitar practices :), the videos are so fluid, knowledgeable and entertaining, its also helping my dedication to practice. I'm not in my best conditions now, but I will contribute to the channel when its possible. Bye.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words, HV. We appreciate your comments and input.
@jeremyacker1388
@jeremyacker1388 5 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug, you are amazing! I love your videos. I just wish I had your knowledge. Thank you for explaining things and using diagrams. Please don't stop!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Jeremy. We won't :)
@doogdoogdoogdoogdoogdoog
@doogdoogdoogdoogdoogdoog 5 жыл бұрын
One of my fave channels on KZbin; thanks so much, Doug 🙌
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Doog. Thanks !!!
@Rod_Knee
@Rod_Knee 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Doug. Your videos are always educational, interesting and entertaining. The world needs more teachers like you. Also, I'm really looking to the rebuild of that Alamo Futura Reverb!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Rodney. Sorry, but the Alamo Futura, being a hybrid circuit, got passed on to another hobbyist.
@pcbullets8726
@pcbullets8726 5 жыл бұрын
What a handful this amp was. Had faith all along you could fix it. Definitely have learned a lot watching these videos, although I am a novice myself. Great video Uncle Doug!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, PC :)
@lynnbath6423
@lynnbath6423 5 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug, another great video. I love your persistence in not just fixing the things that are bad, but also making sure that everything is right. Whenever I work on a vintage amplifier I always check out the wiring and connections. Especially if I know that someone has worked on it. And I always find something that isn't quite right. It is a rare occasion anymore to get an amplifier that hasn't had some work done to it. I did some work on a Vox BerkeleyII for my son a while back. It wasn't working. I found several transistors that had been replaced that were installed backwards from what they should have been. And several wires that were very poorly soldered. When I got it finished, it sounded wonderful and it was a very quiet amp. Thanks for the very interesting and fun videos.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Lynn. Thanks for all your nice comments.
@wyattsdad8561
@wyattsdad8561 3 жыл бұрын
I’m always amazed watching your videos on how well you know this stuff. I wish I understood this stuff and could build an amp or something cool. But I’ll keep watching and hopefully learn something.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
I arrived late on the electronics scene and am entirely self-taught, WD. If I can do it, you can too.
@jamesbruno5896
@jamesbruno5896 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible job UD, your the man! Boy that sounds sweet! Kudos & I totally agree with the output tubes not matching that closely...
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, James :)
@jakeblues3676
@jakeblues3676 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Uncle Doug I love you brother your humor and English prowess always brings a smile and appreciation of your efforts to help us learn how to deal with all the electronics projects.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Jake.
@larrydering1598
@larrydering1598 5 жыл бұрын
Doug, ws usual your dedication to details solved the problems. Great teaching information. Love your videos.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Larry :)
@hippyamp
@hippyamp 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Uncle Doug. Thanks for making them.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
It's our pleasure, HA. Thanks for watching.
@davida1hiwaaynet
@davida1hiwaaynet 5 жыл бұрын
Your level of knowledge and patience never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for sharing this very tough repair job!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, David. Thanks !!
@albertanderson349
@albertanderson349 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video UD! Learn something new with your explanation of that reverb resistor issue, thank you sir!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Albert.
@hpelisr
@hpelisr 5 жыл бұрын
Great rescue Uncle Doug. I think I learned a little about the resister mixing of the reverb.When you pointed out the resister between the two stages,I seen the line running down to the reverb section,and the light bulb went on. So they say. Thanks for the great demo.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Hack. It's great that you are able to spot small details like that. Sometimes when looking at the entire circuit, the small stuff is hard to quickly detect.
@daveogarf
@daveogarf 5 жыл бұрын
DAMN! Your cats are SOOOO TALENTED! Their demos of repaired products are invaluable.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be lost without them, Dave :)
@johnsimms3957
@johnsimms3957 5 жыл бұрын
Good job Uncle Doug! I love seeing amps get repaired.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John. So do we :)
@bassiclogic
@bassiclogic 4 жыл бұрын
You are the best Amplifier tech I have ever seen! Your skill and knowledge are on an Engineers level!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks, Michael :)
@timmyv694
@timmyv694 5 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug , I’ve always thought if I keep watching your videos enough that some your vast knowledge will rub off on me and I have to say I believe it has . Several times now on your videos I have been able to come up with solutions to problems that you discover while repairing amplifiers. It turns out to be exactly what you end up doing. So maybe I am learning something . You’re a great teacher if you can teach this old dog some new tricks:) Thanks for making all your videos . Not only do I learn something but I’m also entertained while I learn .
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, Tim. We're glad the videos have been helpful. You're welcome. Keep learning :)
@SirBelvedere333
@SirBelvedere333 5 жыл бұрын
Video looks and sounds great Brother. Another grade A job. Btw, I was playing a solo gig in a small old blues bar, I used the Electromuse you gave rebirth to for a JL Hooker song. After the gig a elderly gentleman came up to me and asked where I got the EMuse from. I told him the story of how I got it. Well low and behold he said his granddaddy had one just like it back in the 40’s that he had lost in a card game along with a gretsch New Yorker guitar. I showed him a picture of the New Yorker I got with the amp. We both said it has to be a fluke and there’s no way these two items were his granddaddies so many years ago. I told him I’d be back there in a month, said goodbye and never thought about it again. Upon my return to play I threw the old (in need of repair) Gretsch in the trailer. During a break the old guy came to say hello. I showed him the guitar, his eyes teared up and he took out an old b&w picture he had brought to show me of his granddaddy holding a New Yorker with an EMuse beside him. They look like mine but we’ll never know for sure. That said I have a gut feeling these were his. They came from the same area his grandpa was mining around the same time frame. Now I have to find a good Luther and get this guitar reborn. It’s not real bad, needs new binding all around, neck reset and that’s about it. Oh yea what makes me believe this was his rig is the attachable pickup system he had on it, I have the one that came with the rig and it matches the one in the picture. I do hope this was his grandfathers. Sorry for the long story.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
It was a very interesting story, SB. Thanks so much for sharing it with us.
@I967
@I967 5 жыл бұрын
An excellent video, as always. Thank you for sharing with us, Uncle Doug.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, 1967. Thanks !!
@nelsonmedley4349
@nelsonmedley4349 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to listen and see a true master of vintage tubes. You inspire me and I learn lots with your teaching and presentations. You are realy objective and focus about electrónica thank you for teaching us. Congratulations and a big hug.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Nelson. Likewise :)
@ima640
@ima640 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug, another great video. You know your in trouble when the customer says, "someone else had a look at it, but it's still not working properly", happens all the time. I normally walk away, more trouble than its worth. Keep up the great work, very enjoyable content.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ima :)
@sethbrandes2979
@sethbrandes2979 5 жыл бұрын
Was I the only one getting hungry with the cool whip containers in the background? Joking aside, what an informative session! I especially loved how you went back to the trace and explained why that incorrectly valued resistor back in the path was affecting the reverb's signal by not providing enough backpressure to force the signal down into the reverb circuit! Always learning on this channel!!! You rock Uncle Doug!!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Seth. I'm glad it all made sense. We do love our Kool Whip :)
@electroKrunch
@electroKrunch 4 жыл бұрын
I love these investigation/repair vids, thanks for what you do. I've got a Chinese made Crate V100 head that burned from an incorrect tube install that I've been putting off looking into for 10+ years. You are getting me motivated..... Thanks!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Karl. Get to work on that Crate amp.....if you don't fix it, who will ? :)
@electroKrunch
@electroKrunch 4 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug So true... I don't have staff here to call upon, hehehe. After I replace melted parts & find no love, what should I do?? I haven't found much for scheme's on this amp....
@robkal56
@robkal56 4 жыл бұрын
Doug, ran across your channel. While not an electronics guy, I'm fascinated with your videos, maybe because they take me way back to high school and the two years of electronics I enjoyed. You are one good teacher
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Rob. Welcome to our channel.
@ix-Xafra
@ix-Xafra 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip about how to spot loose socket connections. I fixed our bassplayers Bassman amp's intermittent output issues using the same method back in the late 80's and I also 'fattened' up the valve (tube) pins with the soldering iron. An epic repair with great sleuth work . Always enjoy your forensic detective analysis!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Vinny :)
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