Street Fighter Retrospective - Part 3: A New Generation

[@Xzeihoranth]

'Does Capcom know how to count to 3' was apparently the original 'Does Valve know how to count to 3'.

[@ElionMars]

"Do gamers only have one joke? This reporter has questions."

[@rna151]

Valve's definitely a level beyond now though. Capcom has plenty of threes but Valve? Not a single one. Closest they ever got was Half-Life but even that ended Half-Life 2: Episode 2.

[@leonardomapache]

Are there 3 companies we can make this joke about?

[@Bubbabyte99]

​@@rna151It didn't technically end though. That's the whole issue. I've never played any of the Half-Life games (though I should really get on that soon, as I've become a big boomer shooter fan over the past few years ever since I first played through all the Doom games for the first time starting in 2019), but from what I've heard, Half-Life 2: Episode 2 ended on a cliffhanger. That's probably the main reason why people want Half-Life 3 so bad. In comparison, the fan outcry for Valve to make Portal 3, while still definitely there, is INFINITESIMAL in comparison because they didn't tee up a sequel at the end of Portal 2 like Half-Life 2 did.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@rna151 There actually were plans for another episode for half-life with the aid from a company called Junction Point Studios. The problem is that Disney bought Junction Point to work on Epic Mickey. Causing the Half Life episode to get canceled. As if we needed more reasons to dislike Disney.

[@FarCritical]

"When you fight against someone who picked Chun Li, you weren't just playing against Chun Li, you were playing against your opponent. You didn't have to figure out how Chun Li played, you had to figure out how *they* played Chun Li." That sounded strangely philosophical for some reason. Also, New Generation's arcade cabinet being released as "Three" cracked me up way harder than it really should have.

[@SpaceLandslip]

no but like, CapCom going "this is the game you've all been waiting for, Three." is hilarious

[@glacierwolf2155]

Really cements how Chun-Li in Third Strike has no real weaknesses.

[@bulb9970]

Unfortunately that’s not really true since Chun Li is so busted that every top player plays her in the same way. Build meter, connect to Super Art 2, repeat. That’s the objectively correct way to play her.

[@tracyndiyob162]

happy 25th anniversary street fighter 3: 3rd strike!!! :3 thorgi's points on what made 3rd strike so important(would put 6,the alpha series,capcom's other fighters especially darkstalkers/rival schools/power stone,arc system works & definitely snk way above 3rd strike as the real best fighters of all time but see it's importance.) weirdly to say make me visualize ryu describing fully his desire to fight. like him saying it to reuniting with sakura kasugano or sean losing to him for the 1000th time(do like him but he's definitely the dan hibiki of 3rd strike more than it's sakura just more competent.) ryu talking about all the ways he has fought his opponents like chun li,ken,zangief,his sister laura,dhalsim not only how he fought with them but how they handled their fighting style,if his style matched against it & how to handle improving it.

[@Beerusmama]

Might be a hot take but I actually really like Gill's design. It's a representation of what makes the best fighters, Cold Calculation and Fiery Relentlessness, all on a muscle man. His design is almost him physically representing what he believes to be strength which really lines up with his character of trying to turn the world to be like him. Add the whole messiah aspects of his design and he makes an excellent, and fittingly weird, looking boss for the Street Fighter 3 Trilogy.

[@Dhampire1976]

Coldest take in the world. Next your gonna say Q was wasted and Akuma sucks at killing 🥱

[@Beerusmama]

@@Dhampire1976 I did say *might* be. I do not interact with the street fighter community often enough to know what is hot and cold brother. Also Q isn't wasted, imo, he serves his role in the game just fine.

[@Dhampire1976]

@@Beerusmama lil bro thinks he's so special 🥱🥱🥱

[@Flying_V]

Fun Fact about the Daigo Parry that people forget: The parry happened in game 1 of a best of 3. Justin still had a chance to come back, and he was doing well. he won the next round and then it all fell apart.

[@izenheimreborn6390]

1:38:44 Fun fact: this singular moment is so popular, it is even direcly refrenced in Ken's close Final Smash in Super Smash Bros. where he activates his move with 3rd Strike's parry leading to the actual spin kicks

[@NhBleker]

I think this also inspired Counter Strike in Valve putting graffiti on the maps where legendary plays would happen that happened at majors.

[@satchfuji]

In case anyone was confused, he meant to say Oro was inspired by one of.the founders of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Helio Gracie. He just pronounced it with a little Italian flavor.

[@Just.Kidding]

He actually pronounced "Gracie" correctly, Helio is just pronounced "EL-ee-oh"

[@ThatDudeCurtis6]

You also forgot to mention that SF3 was extremely expensive. Not only were CPS3 systems expensive for arcades but the game itself for players. The few arcades that had It in my area charged $.75 or $1.00 to play while Alpha 2, XvSF, and countless others could be played for $0.25. So if you only got a few dollars, even if you wanted to try to play it or learn it, it made more sense just to play the games you already knew.

[@spoogtastic]

This. I was very surprised he didn't mention the cost of buying and playing it. It absolutely played a part with shop owners not putting out the money OR just having to charge so much for each play.

[@pablocasas5906]

I think that's why I never seen a Street Fighter III arcade cabinet in my life. I live in South America and I'm old enough to have played games in the arcade, there were plenty of Neo-Geo machines with games like KoF '98 and Metal Slug, I've also played a lot of CPS-2 games like Super SFII and MvC, there were also 3D games like Daytona USA and Tekken 3, but it seems SFIII was too niche and expensive for it to be commercially viable, I don't know why Capcom didn't just develop SFIII for the CPS-II, I mean SNK managed to make Garou: Mark of the Wolves for the Neo-Geo, and that game had a gameplay similar to SFIII on much older and weaker hardware

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@pablocasas5906. Well, it's quite simple: They wanted Street Fighter 3 to basically be the messiah of the arcades. Too bad it didn't work.

[@loganford3921]

Was the CPS3 more expensive than Sega Model 3? It would be crazy if it was as Model 3 graphics was amazing in 1996.

[@ThatDudeCurtis6]

@@loganford3921 nah it wasn’t that expensive, but also remember model 3 was designed for 3D games which is what was still barely keeping arcades alive at the time. As good as SF3 looked to the average person it still looked dated because 2D wasn’t seen as being “advanced”

[@xavierortega6846]

I have to admit, the idea of fighting game characters that look like they belong in different games but being in the same game and franchise, while being owned by the same company, is a cool concept that really intrigues me and more fighting game franchises and companies should do more of it

[@Sing_LoveWRS]

Arcsys is pretty good at that

[@nerdwarp112]

I really hope Necro comes back someday. I like his design and moves and I think his relationship with Effie is wholesome.

[@lazykyuubi4300]

I love him. He's what would happen if you put Blanka and Dhalsim in a fusion machine from Megami Tensei. He's great

[@Kaliko250]

@@lazykyuubi4300 Yeah, and SF6 is the best time to bring Necro back. SF6 is all about this positive urban vibe, and Necro fits GREAT into it.

[@lazykyuubi4300]

@@Kaliko250 I still have my fingers crossed...

[@HH-sn5qp]

Every sf3 character deserves to be in 6 in my opinion. Both of these games really put the street in street fighter

[@khaledcostasampaio2842]

so I was wondering why her name was Effie and decided to do some word play to get an idea of why Effie and I got NecroEffie and stopped thinking.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for another Street Fighter retrospective, I think you were right about what you said on Twitter regarding the SF III titles and why they were not popular on release: "Been seeing people all night saying Street Fighter 3 failed because of all the new characters. Guys I'm not going to pretend like the lack of legacy characters didn't hurt the game, but that's a massive oversimplification. Street Fighter 3 launched at a time when no home console could play it, and the arcade industry was on the downswing, and there were three other Street Fighter games released within a year of it. (Alpha 2/3, EX 2/3, VS X-Men/MSH). There were other factors is all I'm saying. Sorry had to get that off my chest because anytime someone says "Street Fighter 3 failed because of the new characters" it's like saying "The Gasoline storage plant burned down from all the dry paper laying around." I'm sure that didn't help, but there was also all the gasoline."

[@Dracobyte]

Yeah!

[@kwizzeh]

I agree! Taking 2 years to get a home port was felt hard. Just to add the CPS3 was a failure of a system too, the same year CPS3 launched another arcade board was launched about 8 months later that was just as powerful, can do everything the CPS3 did with 3D graphics and was optical media based. That arcade board? Sega Naomi.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

Now I actually want to see Shadow Lou in a Street Fighter game.

[@Sintoolkicks]

Bryan Cranston: It's a major organized crime syndicate that trades in weapons and drugs world wide, they're involved in just about anything that's illegal.

[@Just.Kidding]

I mean... Shadaloo?

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@Just.Kidding Yes, I understand it sounds like Shadaloo. Alright maybe my meaning is unclear in my first comment so lemme rephrase: Shadow Lou is such a dumb pun of Shadaloo that I almost wish Capcom would make that character and put them in SF, if just to know what they'd be like and what their deal is and why their name is a hilariously painfully bad pun of Shadaloo.

[@MarsYaco]

shadow lou vs shen long in a fight for the ages

[@Triforce_of_Doom]

I mean we got Shen Long in 6's post-game so just give it time.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

Honestly, with Ken in a bit of a funk atm as of SF6, it'd be kind of cool if Sean returned to maybe lend a hand in picking up his friend and master's spirits and getting him back to the cleaned up, friendly Ken we all know and love. I just hope they'd treat him not as a joke and figured out something unique to give him. Maybe lean into the electric bit explained with the shoto style mixed with some inspiration from his sister to give him some new moves and properties that set him apart from all the other shotos.

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

That’s would be a great character development. You get Sean back into Street Fighter and Ken gets some boost up in his deteriorating life.

[@MarsYaco]

sean is easily the character i was most disappointed about not being in 6, here's hoping he makes it as dlc

[@kwizzeh]

Ken's backstory on the press tour during the lead up to SF6's launch revealed it was Luke, Sean and Laura who helped Ken get back on his feet on the down low. Laura's arcade ending in SFV that showed a slide of Sean winning a tournament post-3s is canon according to SFV director Takayuki Nakayama. This fully implies he's matured as a fighter and a person post 3s.

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@kwizzeh Cool. I'd love to see that developed even further in SF6.

[@SpaceDragonX783]

He was referenced in World Tour by Ken so there's hope.

[@dengold009]

An incredibly famous fighting game series getting overambitious with sprite-based art and eventually making a game that was loved by hardcore fans but sold poorly and nearly killed the series? I'm getting deja vu from your KoF retrospective.

[@guardianali]

DO NOT STOP MAKING THESE. After SF, move on to another series. This is awesome. You def deserve more subs.

[@spudsbuchlaw]

You realise this is an ongoing series right? Not only SF, but like, other Fighting games? His first was on Rival Schools, its good

[@TheSuperSmashBros01]

And he did hint at the beginning of the year he had two retrospectives planned: Art of Fighting and Skullgirls EDIT: Oh never mind the SF retrospective has taken up so much time to write record and edit for that he couldn’t get to those. Fuck me.

[@MrXabungle]

Thorgi should do live retrospective stage shows since he seems to be influenced by stand-up comedians.

[@Dracobyte]

Yup! Just one part left after the SF 4 part.

[@Hawkatana]

@@Dracobyte ...How should we tell him?

[@seanwilkinson7431]

I like how Oro is just doing a Mercenary Tao on top of a 747. That's badass.

[@blvk3]

correction: in 2nd impact, hugo can have a few different final bosses, at random, and will force that person into becoming a partner in the ending

[@gregvs.theworld451]

If they really wanted to make Gill iconic, they should've forgone the loincloth and just let him hang dong, but Capcom took the cowards way out.

[@PHSDM104]

He was iconic enough with that stupid resurrection special. I threw my controller at that point!

[@UncomfortableShoes]

@@PHSDM104god that resurrection the first time it happened I was like 😮 “Oh god, no.”

[@glacierwolf2155]

So if Michaelangelo's David if he was a fighting game character?

[@muppetry1]

When doing the resurrection his dong just start getting hard :)

[@Madcap1970]

"Bison's mentor, who was called Shadow Lou" Now I'm just envisioning Lou Reed embued with Psycho Power

[@a.j.m8264]

For years I loved the character Alex. Literally Everything about him is just so cool to me… so it was incredibly disheartening to learn all these years later that his character was so poorly received after they tried to make him the MAIN character of all things! I’m glad he got put in sf5 and I hope to see him possibly get a resurgence in SF6. Fingers crossed

[@jjjsalang]

When I play Alex, I like to pretend he is like Ralf and Clark in KOF.

[@SpaceLandslip]

he was in 5?

[@swempytimes]

Fun fact, that Adam West let's go sound clip is also in a song that was in Sonic the hedgehog gems collection

[@runman624]

I was aware of the judgment girls for a while thanks to a youtuber that shows the moveset of fg characters and honestly I just wished they were more fleshed out lore wise just to give the world of sf more life

[@wchan39]

I also knew because I saw it in a gaming magazine back then, showing what happens if you double KO.

[@kcslc6723]

I wonder if they cameo in SF6's World Tour. That would be a really cool easter egg.

[@NeoZiggy92]

​@@kcslc6723One of them does as, get this: A freaking OPPONENT as part of the Superboss Mission called the "Fighty Mighty" in World Tour! (The girl with the skates, specifically)

[@trebienparker5349]

@@NeoZiggy92 Fair Libra is her name.

[@JustBryan1731]

I legit just started listening to these during work 2 days ago and thank God part 3 is almost here! Needed something good to listen to during a long day at work

[@timothygarcia1682]

Same

[@MrSkerpentine]

I now desperately want to travel to the parallel universe where Ed Boon was the director of Street Fighter because you know his ass would’ve made Shadow Lou a real character 😂

[@Juju2927]

You know that he would have taken the idea of the Dolls like the Ninjas and turn them into actual characters.

[@joshualowe959]

51:19 the arcade cabinet only said "Three" in the title. One time at my local arcade places they had the machine with the title "Three" with Alex & Ryu in it, but it wasn't even Street Fighter 3. It was Street Fighter Alpha 😑😑😑

[@marts4169]

Necro´s ending with Effie very much reminds me of K9999 and Angel´s relationship.

[@lauriepenner350]

Diehard Game Fan Magazine was clearly getting their intel from "my uncle who works at Capcom."

[@maurounit-1200]

Besides being a great video, as always fucking GREAT music choices in general And as always thank you for commissioning me for the thumbnail! Lovely to work with you as usual❤️‍🔥

[@Iwillone]

We got the SF6 A.K.I trailer and now part 3 of Thorgi's SF retrospective (-_^ )

[@Nando75549]

After researching Street Fighter's history, I feel like I've noticed a pattern. The games with odd numbers like 3 and 5 have had poor reception at launch. Meanwhile the games with even numbers like 2, 4 and 6 have had great reception at launch. So basically, if ya want a great SF game, don't give it an odd number. Boom! ;3

[@marcbraun5342]

I said it in the chat on the premiere and I say it here again, where it lasts, this channel and the retrospectives in general are on such a high level and this episode in particular shows it's improving with every one. I want to point out especially the ending here, which is so well framed and edited as an fullfilling ending and continuation/tease for the next one. I'm lecturing video production and editing at an university and this will become one of the how to do it right examples in the next semester.

[@rwg6357]

The whole Sean's suppose joke character is them trying to justify the nerf of him in Third Strike... Sean went from the best of the four shotos to the worst while giving his tools to buff up Ryu and Ken

[@edgarlozada3858]

The episode dropping on my birthday? More than excellent. I may not watch it itself tomorrow, as I'll be busy, but watching it later!

[@brichan1851]

Happy Birthday… Street Fighter!

[@theking91389]

happy b day man or woman

[@edgarlozada3858]

@@theking91389 Thank you (I'm a man, by the way).

[@theking91389]

@@edgarlozada3858 cool

[@ElionMars]

Happy birthday!

[@MrXabungle]

I still believe Twelve was originally going to be Spider-Man as a special guest with the CPS3 system displaying the color palette of his costume but made into Twelve due to time constraints and the Marvel license near expiration.

[@thetruej7872]

Twelve definitely has some Venom vibes

[@doomdimensiondweller5627]

Also about the theory that Q is G. Q is actually blond, for a split second some of his animations reveal his hair. So that is more evidence he is G.

[@therussianwanderer4851]

Or a clone of G. Cause his inners are mechanical.

[@tracyndiyob162]

q is definitely tied to g in some way(we haven't seen either in 6 & with how it got revealed in rashid's story for 6 the illuminati's stages actually belonged to his people before gill's basically kicked them out wouldn't be surprised if they got tied to q in some way as i personally think g is the illuminati's previous emperor/like the theory of q being chun li's father dorai turned into a cyborg.). but q's actually around during the time of 5 as outside getting attacked by shadaloo in the character story's(that has to be some karma for her honestly villainous actions in 4.) the cfn database mentions that c. viper was currently searching for q as the explanation for why she wasn't playable in 5.

[@vinsmokefabulous7219]

56:40 I dunno, Nash's face, at that angle, in that conext, with that expression feels so funny to me, i don't know why, lol

[@alexmcneill6445]

Aw, it's a shame you don't like Gill. I know he looks like a crazy dedicated American football fan, but I know I was impressed by his visuals (in the 2010s). Plus, he may be a badguy, but he's not a (complete) asshole like Bison or Seth. Like Akuma, he holds a code. But I also get why people wouldn't like him. =w=

[@ODDiSEE_]

Someone on the dev team for new generation got a thing for tall Kenyan women, because the at win pose is crazy extra.

[@PHSDM104]

Ooh! The one I was waiting for!! I was one of the rare people that actually played this back when it debuted in the arcade. All three iterations were present at my local Six Flags on the SAME DAY and I played them all. I didn't truly appreciate it at the time but a few years later when Third Strike was included in Anniversary Collection, I loved it for what it was. Also, the beats still play in my head.

[@joshuafish98]

I barely even play fighting games and would probably never watch e-sports, but this is just, well-made, intricately researched, and thorough content. Your historical breakdown of these games is incredibly entertaining and your clear passion for them elevates the videos further.

[@lostmediadetective2590]

Street Fighter 3 new generation was the ultimate learning on the job game

[@shonenbois]

When you really think about it besides being a great game, SF3 3rd strike really paved the way for SF6 when it came to it’s hip hop influence/aesthetic. So that’s another reason to appreciate Street fighter 3

[@StopSomething]

Dead or alive 5 did it better

[@kwizzeh]

Well, 3s specifically lol. NG and most of 2i aren't really hip-hop influenced.

[@brendaspence1824]

@@StopSomething😂😂😂 nah

[@joshbkimmusic]

@@StopSomething ummm I've played DOA5... and outside of a few tracks... it's not really... that hiphop-y aesthetics wise.

[@kayla8402]

As a fan of nightwarriors on the saturn and 2nd impact on dreamcast, I feel like sf6 is hitting a nice blend of those.

[@Tungdil_01]

It's urgent that Capcom or some fan take the SF3 and Second Impact stages and soundtrack, and include them in Third Strike. This way, we will have more backgrounds and more soundtrack. I for one love Second Impact stages, so vivid and smooth. That will be the ultimate SF3. In short, Hyper Fighting for SF3!

[@kwizzeh]

AFAIK they wanted too for 3SOE but ran into memory limitations imposed by MS/Sony. We did get the original vgm from both games as DLC though.

[@carlbloke8797]

30:46 Funny enough seeing as Sakura is also able to charge up her hadoken normally, it shows how much of a prodigy she is too.

[@Bowen_Landry]

The 90's was most certainly the era of fighting games. It was crazy, but great time. I wish I bought far more of them back then ;/

[@zizirobinson]

33:51 my dad’s a Jiu-Jitsu instructor and a friend of Helio’s son Relson, so as someone with a bit of passing knowledge on the Gracie family finding this out was really cool

[@dannypatrick9361]

That ending though! Honestly I cant wait until the next part! I really feel that SF4 doesnt get the credit it deserves. It is literally the second coming of fighting games and it is the reason tournaments are now played in stadiums across the world and are streamed to an even bigger audience. SF4 in my opinion is on almost equal ground with SF2 for what it did for the genre as a whole. And people need to remember and respect that.

[@Triforce_of_Doom]

Man I remembered hearing that 3's development was rough but DAMN! Also as someone who's been watching tourneys for a good chunk of years now & has always considered themselves semi-competitive in games, absolutely LOVED the breakdown for EVO Moment 37. A moment so famous that Sakurai very likely referenced it when his trailer team showed off the Shippu Jinrai in Ken's Smash Trailer by parrying Mac first. If I recall they actually made that a combo trial in one of 3rd Strike's rereleases. Also that To Be Continued for SF4 was CLEAN

[@deltaprime3509]

Great job on the video I really do like when you debunk many rumours and misinformation in this video it’s really good shows off how good you are at this.

[@Dracobyte]

Thank you for another awesome retrospective video!!

[@mauriziobernotti9171]

It' s far more impressive that fot being unexperienced the SF3 staff they create a masterpiece.

[@MrXabungle]

Thorgi forgot to point out that Hidetoshi Ishizawa (Neo_G) was one of the lead planners of Alpha 2 so he already had some experience before Darkstalkers 3 and SF3. Then he went to SNK and designed the gameplay for KOF 14 and SamSho 2K19 before departing.

[@TheShockVox]

1:16:25 despite whatever he did to hold Street Fighter back after this, I will always love Ono for what he did here with Third Strike. He made the absolute RIGHT choice and it elevates the aesthetic and vibe of Third Strike to a level I haven’t seen ever again and desperately wish I could see and hear again.

[@thebandanadee8265]

I don't understand. What'd he do?

[@Agus-wp2cc]

Man this channel is so good. I would love to hear uou talking about the M.U.G.E.N scene someday

[@BATCHARRO]

I vaguely remember seeing the "Three" Cabinet. It didn't confuse me, but that's because I read a lot.

[@anthonynocera3846]

I’m really glad you chose to split this into different parts. This is obviously going to be a long, exhausting series. So I think after it’s finished you should do a smaller franchise that you can fit into one video. Given the fact Killer Instinct is getting the first update it’s had in years, I think it would be a good candidate for next time. Btw, I had an idea for an episode of Build the Roster. A 3D, Soul Calibur-inspired weapons fighter using Legend of Zelda characters. I don’t know whether it would be better if they made this hypothetical game into a separate timeline or to have all the timelines crossing over. I just had this feeling that Smash Bros Ultimate is supposed to be the last game in the series and it looks like that’s turning out to be true. So, how about we give all the major Nintendo franchises their own fighting games?

[@GalaxiaKnightX]

I'm not much of a fighting game person. The only fighting game series I've ever played was a platform fighter called the Super Smash Bros. Series and Soul Calibur. But I was never one to fight competitively because I do suck at most fighting games. So I never really was interested in Street Fighter 3 Third Strike or even knew about that legendary moment with Daigo parrying Chun-Li's super there. I even asked myself. "Why was that so hyped." But that was me back when I never understood fighting games that they are today. But after watching people online play these characters and see these combos. Not to mention watching Clement's video of the lore of Street Fighter and your retrospectives of fighting games. It's gotten me to understand why fighting games are awesome. And why this moment was legendary. Even though I will never play fighting games the way most people play them as I just play for casual cause again I suck at fighting games. I can at least understand most of it. Aside form this. Great video Thorgi! Though also a fun trivia note. one of Ken's Final Smashes in Super Smash Bros. Is sorta based on EVO moment 37.

[@ItsTheFizz]

I swear there's an interview with Jean Claude Van Damme in an issue of Disney Adventures where he was also under the misconception that SF:TM:TG was Street Fighter 3...

[@Ronnie06spartan]

This retrospective has been absolutely fantastic so far! Love your sense of humor too I really wish there was a version of Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike that also included all the stages/music from New Generation and 2nd Impact that were omitted from that game

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

So, SF fans were like Kingdom Hearts fans? They kept getting games in the series, but they needed to see the number 3.

[@MiggyMeista]

Hugo has four different iterations of his ending in 2nd Impact as he can have one of four different characters as his final boss in that game. Necro as you mentioned before, but also Ryu, Elena, or Gill can be his partner in the end.

[@WolfieBeat]

Third strike is the game that keeps giving, creating this year's top EVO moment, quite possibly EVO moment #38.

[@kinghijinx5892]

The only Street Fighter I still come back to. Everything about the vibe and aesthetic of Street Fighter 3 is perfect, they clearly had a distinct vision for this game and they nailed it. And Third Strike is the most fun Street Fighter has ever been. Also one of the best rosters in my opinion as someone with no nostalgia for this series, these characters are more interesting than the walking race stereotypes that SF2's roster is. Makoto is my favourite character in the whole series and Dudley, Q, Urien and Alex are great as well. And Gill is my favourite Street Fighter boss by a large margin.

[@xGunbladeKnightx]

SFII may seem now to have a very stereotypical roster, but the idea was that in those years to represent the world, other fighting games also did it that way. Each character gained the love they deserve despite being stereotypes and their lore expanded, which is why people complain more when they do not appear. Also, if the characters in III were actually more interesting, Alex would have taken Ryu's position as protagonist, which he failed to do, Gill would have appeared more times as a final boss like Bison did, and instead of Sakura and Laura there would be Makoto and Sean in SFV xD

[@TheDatabaseNetwork]

Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike is essentially the WWE WrestleMania X-Seven of fighting games. Its praises are beyond universal.

[@migsmigs2425]

Now we need a retrospective for the other more obscure titles of the '90s golden era of fighting games. I'm talking about the gazillion SF clones, the forgotten & unappreciated. Kaiser Knuckles, Fighters History, World Heroes, Breakers, et al. That would be glorious.

[@MJSHappy]

24:37 No idea if it was intentional or not, but lining up "So... how was it" with "You Lose" on screen is hilarious.

[@xavierortega6846]

51:18 I get the developers got tired of people saying “We want 3!!” And they were like “FINE YOU WANT 3?!?! *places arcade machine* THERE, THERES 3, YOU HAPPY NOW?! “but sir, this isn’t enough to tell people it’s Street Fighter 3” “Well then add Ryu to the cabinet, I don’t care anymore” And can imagine somebody saying “Mom, I’m going to the arcade to play “Three”. She’s gonna think that’s a different way of saying “I’m having a threesome” 😂😂😂

[@DouglasStewart99]

Thorgi: "I have never seen an original SF3 cabinet in my *LIFE!"* Funny. The thing that got me into SF3? *New Generation,* no joke. One of the reasons I enjoyed going to a certain laundry room when I was a kid was because they had a *TON* of arcade machines around the place. New Generation was there right next to Marvel vs. Capcom along side other classics there. I mainly played MvC because I was more familiar with it, and at the time I *SUCKED* at SF. But watching other people play it I was hooked, the OST lived rent-free in my mind to this day, and it showed me the 1st ever FG Boss I ever saw in the form of Gill. I know 3rd Strike is the GOAT OF SFIII, but New Generation still kinda holds a good place in my heart.

[@aydenlynch4820]

Ng was the first sf i played in an arcade. Bummed out about chun li not being in back then but its my favorite sf right now.

[@lf4807]

I thought you would mention Remy is inspired on Iori Yagami Anyway amazing video like always

[@kayla8402]

I'll always say, it's a damn shame the dreamcast sold so poorly. Stunning system with a phenomenal selection of games. It's just baffling. Okay I get it, sega was terrible at advertising their hardware, but. Honestly think the visual style of 2nd Impact beats out third strike though. Might be the "best" of the three, but for the visuals? ooh yeah. The game itself is still a bit more methodical and back to basics, but I rather like that. SF6 really appeals for a similar reason, feels methodical rather than purely twitchy.

[@MrSkerpentine]

One of the other reasons I’ve heard from articles and my friend who actually owns a Dreamcast was that it had practically no DRM or authentication software so you could play pirated or burned copies of games with no restrictions or extra steps whatsoever

[@kwizzeh]

@@MrSkerpentine That was one of the reasons. Another reason was third party Western support was almost non-existent (EA infamously boycotted the Dreamcast due to Sega USA discontinuing the Saturn in Western markets, meaning none of their sports games made it to the system ex. FIFA & UEFA). Activision, 2k Sports & Sega Sports brands were small beans compared to EA back then. The biggest reason why Dreamcast failed was Sony announcing the PS2. It practically killed all momentum the Dreamcast had in the West despite excellent word of mouth and praise from fans & critics.

[@gc3k]

I definitely prefer the music in 2nd Impact, I'm glad Gill's theme in SFV is based on 2I

[@kye4216]

These videos are extremely well made. Deserves way more views.

[@naheemquattlebaum2267]

There are similarities between Yun & Yang with the Bogards too

[@KoichiSaito625]

1:12:27 THAT is a hell of a surprise considering that back when this game came out, I was 8 years old living in Hawaii and remember playing on the OG Steeet Fighter 3 arcade cabinets. Granted, those same cabinets were later and quickly replaced with 2nd Impact cabinets, but if a small cluster of islands could get their hands on new arcade cabinets quickly and not mainland America, I have to thank my lucky stars for living in Hawaii (and overall shipping to the mainland US to Japan is STILL overall cheaper than shipping to Hawaii, so don't say we got em just cause our islands were closer to Japan)

[@ODDiSEE_]

Community darkest timeline reference made me chuckle

[@popcorn_ceiling8798]

I keep coming back to this specific video just for the "WAKE UP" at the end. It just feels so cool

[@gamerbear84]

I remember being unbelievably hyped when a gaming magazine ran an article about all the new characters in 3, such fresh experiences waiting for me.... then I didn't see hide nor hair of the game 'till like a decade later on the SF Collection for Xbox.

[@ExlhkA]

The tumbnail art is so good

[@Gary-iw1of]

It takes me an hour to drive to work and an hour to drive home. These have been awesome to listen to on my journey and can’t wait for this.

[@GohTheGreat]

I’m surprised on how you didn’t talk about how Second Impact arguably has the best UI out of the all the 3 games, and by a large margin.

[@sonicphoenix7]

2is hud slaps so hard

[@dariogonzalez8989]

I'd love it if it was possible to hack 3rd Strike to change its HUD for the 2nd Impact one.

[@GigaGom]

MY BOY REMY!!! He has a guile kit but uses it a lot differently and hes a lot more aggresive. I also named my puppy after him :3

[@jnastywot2298]

"has emerged with their leader Gill, claiming he will bring balance to the world" Holy shit! The illuminati are the white lotus and Gill is the Avatar.

[@georgeboyred]

I remember a ton of rumors about Sheng Long from SF2 but I really don't remember any mention about him in SF3 so maybe enough people wised up to the April fools jokes later on or it just wasn't as widespread next time around

[@dnmstarsi]

1:19:20 FYI the quote says "EZ Job". In terms of win quotes, it's just one or two words like Death, The End and Kill as well as "LMAO" and just his name in Console versions.

[@mkayrose6070]

Shoot, I'm gonna be at work tomorrow at 4:00 pm, hopefully I can catch some of it before the end. I'm so looking forward to this!

[@theking91389]

it ok

[@bookishdelight]

Great use of Gill's winquote at the end of the video. 👍

[@marts4169]

These retrospectives are fantastic. I love how Thorgi does into so much detail and fun facts with each game.

[@Chconroy]

I'm not gonna say that more fighting games should do more SF III-esque rosters (it can definitely go one of two ways), but SF III is one of my favorite cases of it. It gives the game a completely fresh identity from the rest of the series, both before and after SF III.

[@darthkreed]

It's a bummer Dreamcast didn't get more recognition. They had a very impressive line up of fighting games for it's time.

[@nintenx1235]

I like how Necro is just a SF6 custom character that time traveled.

[@marcbraun5342]

9:24 I'm having scenes from DmC: Devil May Cry in my mind when hearing that sentence. :D With the difference that they found developers in their own office who knew very well what they were doing.

[@CapLives]

FINALLY had the time to get through this whole thing. This was a great one! This whole series has been a Magnum Opus. I was really looking forward to this one because I love the idea of SF3. I'm here from your Comic channel, and your stance on legacy characters and letting things move along is something I always resonated with. Seeing that SF3 was essentially that made me really interested in that time frame. Loved learning more about it through this video.

[@Just.Kidding]

Part of what makes 3rd Strike so great is that there is never a "correct" or optimal decision in any given situation. _Every_ interaction has absurd levels of counterplay, and counterplay TO that counterplay. And as for it being unbalanced, that's really only at the highest levels. 95-99% of people will be able to have completely rewarding, competitive matches between Ken and Necro, Yun and Q, or Chun-Li and Hugo.

[@akilcharles3473]

SF 3rd Strike was a head of it's time and is still be play today at my local arcade some parts in Trinidad. And the cast of characters were fun to play with tho most of the people I know mostly play either Ken & Akuma (obviously). Although I will say as much I love Makoto,Ibuki,Abel and the other new fighers that came out for that game I didn't fully understand the appeal towards Sean, like I get that he's fun to play and has that charismic attitude about him but to me he was another pallete swap base character of Ryu,Ken & Akuma with the same fighting style but with different moves about him. And further on it kinda became stagnant when more fighters that basically have the same shoto fighting styles that are like Ryu,Ken & Akuma began increasing by the time SF4 & 5 rolls along that for me at least kinda become tiresome & repetitive. Still despite my complaints SF 3rd strive was the corner stone of one the best 2D fighting game of that era and still is to this date. Tho for me at least SF6 is close to tie with it but we'll discuss that on a later day.

[@pixelgoat7317]

Alex: BOOTS DA BOOTS DA BOOTS, BOOTS DA BOOTS DA BOOTS, BOOTS DA BOOTS DA BOOTS, DA BOOTS IN YO' FAAAAAACE (Spams his Fierce Kick)

[@DrunkDuckXD]

Daigo, an offensive player, does the most impressive defensive move of all time

[@bryceharriet9209]

That ending gave me chills! “WAKE UP!!!”

[@GardoGamer]

I know it really takes time for you to make this kinds of videos but... I REALLY CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE.. although you're making a detour to the "Movie" game I am still excited for this series.. keep it up!! Take all the time you need.. but.. I really have to say I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!!

[@MrCalverino]

Giant Attack is my favorite version... the music is the BEST!!!

[@jordanjackson6151]

My bro and I actually had the Dreamcast port of III double impact. Man we just ate it up! I even played the Arcade cabinets.

[@chiefbawor_thegr8966]

You know someone out there is trying to make Shen Long become a reality in MUGEN

[@Bronburner]

Thank thorgi 😢 I’m about to cry man this vid blut yo be so fire

[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

Going back through these videos again for some background noise, I got sucked in again to watch and it's crazy how many little tidbits of pro wrestling made it into these games. As soon as I saw that staredown pose of Alex and Hugo, I immediately looked at a picture of Hogan VS Andre from WrestleMania 3 and sure enough, it's the same dang staredown, especially helped by Alex's blonde hair and red headband along with Hugo just being Andre the Giant in almost everything but name (that and oddly enough EX 3 had a powerbomb/RKO combo with Zangief and Darun that was literally the WrestleMania 30 spot between Randy Orton & Batista but over a decade earlier.)