Street Fighting

[@Goldenwithaleash]

We need Mac back on the JRE again.

[@MuscleMilkDaddy]

Was just thinking that

[@filipzugec8346]

We need him on Theo Von podcast😎

[@jordanturner7917]

Yes

[@markhc4581]

Hooyah!

[@edwardglenn9310]

Return of the Mac fir sure

[@AlphaAffirmations]

Pat Mac is our most valuable national resource.

[@hahtsauce]

he must be protected at all costs

[@dps6608]

I would totally listen to 3+ hours of you and Jocko respectfully debating this😂

[@hc8771]

Yesss!

[@happysunshinydays6349]

THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN/10

[@jackjack4412]

Jocko doesn't street fight. I'd go with Pat Mac on this one.

[@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns]

Add Tim Kennedy to that list.

[@joshualittle877]

Pat would annihilate Tim and Jocko and that's with his left hand.

[@RM-en7ft]

Pat is right. I've been a police officer for 40 years and have been is more fights that I care to remember. The only time it goes to the ground was after it was over to handcuff. The first time I was in a scuffle it went to the ground and I swore to myself it would not happen again. It has not. If you end up in a street fight give it all you have because in my opinion a fight is won or lost in the first 5 seconds.

[@ac8974]

I would add to your comment by saying that LEO mindset is to go to the ground because we’re taught to control on the ground, get on the ground, handcuff on the ground.

[@JG54206]

I tend to agree. I strongly believe in the philosophy of “strike first, strike hard, and the fight is over before it even begins.”

[@trailertrashtactics]

I'll never forget thinking I was a badass dude joining my first boxing gym and some scrawny 16 y.o. kid knocked the shit out of me in the ring 😂 I'm glad I've grown up so much since then. Pat really knows what he means when you can't judge a book by its cover.

[@johngerard3218]

Angelo Dundee once told me "the best way to avoid a punch is don't be there in the first place". Hard to argue with that logic.

[@lookingformyself6628]

Dirty boxing, muay thai, staying on your feet, i.e. defense against takedowns. Follow what is right. And avooooooid avooooid avooooid - I love u Pat!

[@redcoat192]

I love Pat's honesty! He's not pretending to be a superhero, he gives you reality. That's what makes him great to listen to 👍🏻

[@CzechSixTv]

I was excoriated in the comments on one of your other videos for pointing out BJJ isn't great for a street fight, but I'll say it again- I worked security in bars and venues for years. Going to the ground just puts your head at stomping level for the other guys buddy and they almost always have a buddy(or three). On LEO's going to the ground, I think that's more a result of their training being focused primarily on the goal of restraining and arresting a suspect. It's certainly easier to restrain someone that is face down on the ground with your body weight on top of them. That said, in HS I boxed at the PAL(outside of wrestling season) and met quite a few cops that could absolutely throw hands.

[@MrSpicabooo]

Agreed i said the same thing when i used to do mma back in hs and college. They always say 90% of street fights go to the ground but the only ones i seen do that are girls pulling hair. Even in mma u dont see alot of dudes do jui jitsu or get submissions besides the hiiiiiigh level guys like oliviera and the such, all the guys with supposed wrestling backgrounds and bjj backgrounds still stand up most of the time.

[@independentthoughtsnotthot9030]

Bjj has ground and pound too but I'd take pats advice

[@colecole3352]

100% I have done both.

[@PJ808H]

@@independentthoughtsnotthot9030 Agreed, as BJJ is 1 on 1, not 1 on 1 plus three of his kicking you in your head.

[@lnaesll]

You know I gotta say it’s 50 50 for me. The few times it’s just been one on one (most of the guys were bigger than me) I’d close the distance and take it to the ground. But bar fights it’s just been throwing hands and trying to have my back against something so I didn’t get sucker punched.

[@hc8771]

One of my pet peeves as someone who trains bjj is this notion it makes you invincible. I don't believe it's a great go to in a bar fight situation but it has immense value in a ton of other situations where you are dealing with a single aggressive person and allows a range of responses that striking does not. As for LEO it is the #1 training I would recommend as most of the hands on is resistive not assultive subjects and it's normally 1 of them and several officers. The reason that we take people to the ground is because it eliminates their movement and it limits their ability to land damage if they so choose to strike.

[@maxander9010]

Having practiced martial arts since the age of thirteen and received my first black belt in jujitsu in 96 and working on my 2nd degree black belt in American Kempo. I realize how important it is to keep an open mind when it comes to hand to hand combat . ( When it comes to fighting you never have arrived and know it all ) meaning keep training ! What I love about Macs teaching is he’s precise , concise, and straightforward and 💯% right it’s absolute B.S. that all fights end up on the ground! The best way to win a fight is to not have one at all . Avoidance is the best measure to take . But if it can’t be avoided then have the skills to win . Better to have the skills and not need them , then to need the skills and not have them .

[@casualwoodchuck]

My dad used to box on the Navy and then worked on ranches all through the 60s 70s till the 80s when he worked the city of Boston this is a much higher academic level of what he taught me and it's worked for me for so many years

[@pasquinilli]

Truth. I’ve been hearing the same thing about all flights going to ground for years and I’ve never had to go to the ground although like Pat Mac, I wrestled in high school and I still know how to wrestle and I have done a lot of DJ J and judo but I would rather stay on my feet! Great presentation thank you!

[@olial8342]

Thank you Pat. I find myself in these situations more and more lately. People wanting to test me because i'm a smaller guy. Little do they know....But recently I had to walk away after an altercation with a neighbor, his actions toward me were somewhat justified, and I took one on the chin for it. That will NEVER happen again. We both have kept distance since then, and these last few months have been peaceful. I continue to follow your philosophy of avoidance, but I acknowledge and respect him as a family man and neighbor as well. Thank you again, and I look forward to the next segment!!

[@Fragniac]

Iron Mike Tyson’s fighting style saved my life. It’s no bullshit. Tight and dangerous!

[@moiseshernandez2699]

Tight and inside strikes, like Mike Tyson boxes. Love it, keep it up Pat.

[@Questtt3]

Great to finally hear someone publicly speak truth to urban myth. Pat beautifully laid out the reasons why one on one street fights are a “luxury” and not the norm. BJJ is great for a number of reasons…but you are not in a good place if you are fighting multiple highly motivated attackers from the ground.

[@mma709]

I am a blue belt in BJJ and have done tons of martial arts over the years and I 100 % agree if I don’t have to go to the ground I don’t

[@flamecolumn]

I boxed forever before I succumbed to the pervasive mentality that I had to learn BJJ. Did it, I dunno, a little over a year, maybe 18 months, I found it to be repetitive and very tournament-focused. Lots of rolling in artificial situations. Focused on not hurting the other person. I learned a couple of chokes and a couple of simple escapes but most of it was artificial and wouldn’t be of much use in a real scrap. I’d say Krav Maga is prob a better system in that you learn some basic BJJ skills but those are coupled with techniques to hurt your assailant. I’m obviously biased but I firmly believe that boxing fundamentals are the best cornerstone for becoming an effective fighter, whether in the ring, the octagon, or the sidewalk. Chuck Liddell hated going to the ground but he sure as hell put a lot of opponents there.

[@williamhenson9786]

Glad to see someone calling out the 90% rule. It was taken put of context by the Gracies. Sure bjj is cool, but its not the be all end all of fighting

[@frankcastle7777]

Best real world street fight advised 100%! GOD BLESS

[@AstroVanTribe]

100% accurate, I've had a lot of "street fights" as well (in quotes because many happened indoors) and I've only taken a few people to the ground and it was always a one-on-one situation - I've been involved in bar brawls inside and outside the establishment and the only people on the ground were the ones who got laid out and fell there... I'd like to here Pat mention the solar plexus, I've dropped a lot of people with one shot to the solar plexus, fight over and everyone walks away

[@mikewatson3718]

Having a blue belt level knowledge is definitely useful and enough for 99% of the times you’d need to use it

[@CB-Phantom]

MAN!! I love Pats passion!!!!

[@IanOnTheYouTubes]

Former bouncer here. Seen or participated in well above my fair share of incidents. Deescalation is key. But if somebody kicks off, yes, stay off the ground. Fights happen in crowds. No idea who is that guy’s buddy and will take a shot at you while you’re on the ground rolling around. We had a guy that used to love to take people to the ground. Which turned into me being a one man crowd control keeping people back while we waited for the rest of our guys to get there. No fun. Also, stay off people’s necks unless you need to use lethal force. All neck stuff is lethal. Takes almost nothing to tear an artery, induce a stroke, and goodnight. Happened to me training Krav. Lucky I’m still here. Grown up fights aren’t kiddie play time. You can kill someone real quick.

[@williamsmith8790]

Same here. I bounced for years. Was in dozens and witnessed hundreds. Always multiples. Many times weapons. The person that hit first and hardest usually won it in the first beat. The 97% going to the ground is the reverse. Most I saw ended from hard punching and the ones that hit the ground ended in a monkey stomp by one guys friend or the crowd. I can count on one hand how many I saw that looked like anything in a match fight.

[@tonysalvo9095]

I train under Professor Daniel Wanderley (Carlson Gracie Jiu Jitsu) and I couldn't agree more. He's trained Anthony/Sergio Pettis, Paul Felder, Raufeon Stots, Emmanuel Sanchez, Brendan Allen, etc (all Pro MMA fighters). People at the gym who strictly train BJJ are so inexperienced with stand up (I've also trained in Muay thai/kickboxing/boxing under Duke Roufus) that in a real fight or in sparring they've no idea what to do. Love your videos and all you do, thank you so much my basic dude 😎😄 Please come to Wisconsin soon!!

[@stevenadkins4372]

I would like to see more on the actual "fighting in a phone booth" demo. Great info and thank you for the video.

[@DocAMoya]

Look forward to every single one of these little clips, diamonds worthy of content.

[@eliaspergande2663]

We love you guys!

[@kellanjaduram8878]

Great insight on street fighting. The Audio is pretty great. Keep up the awesomeness!

[@giborchayil]

As a BJJ practitioner and instructor at my old company called Combative Jiu-Jitsu, I 100% concur with what Pat says!!!

[@macabre19]

Pat is right on with this. I've never believed that 90% of fights go to ground BS. No street fight I've ever been in has gone to the ground. BJJ isn't designed for multiple attackers. Anyone that can even fight a little bit will never look for a fight.

[@MultiJpad]

Best advice ive heard soo far.

[@johnh6532]

Good advice. And as you know lots of people carry weapons. Like all the videos about escaping a rear naked choke. My way out is one of the knives or pistols I have on me.

[@richardcurb7870]

Thank you sir, I do follow yo ur advice. avoid avoid avoid. And even if you defend yourself from an attacker, then there's always somebody filming looking for a lawsuit

[@richardcurb7870]

Yes sir I'm an old combat veteran, army engineer with 21 years of service, I don't look for trouble anymore.

[@benmacdhui]

Spot on. Also there's no mat in the streets

[@paulm3969]

Finally some truth. I've seen many street fights, often someone goes to the ground after being KO'd and being on your feet is what stops you from getting kicked in the head by your opponents friends. Being on the ground in the street is a freaking dangerous place to be in.

[@donjohnsonlivesgood]

When I was a young man, 11 years old, the movie pilot for the series Kung Fu came out. I always loved that show. In the Pilot episode, there was an interaction between Master Kan and Disciple Caine, wherein the young Disciple asked of the Master ... Master, do we seek victory in contention? Master says, Seek rather not to contend. (avoid avoid avoid) ... Disciple - But shall we not then be defeated? Master Kan says something so profound it stuck with me now for over 53 years later .... Master Kan says ... We know that where there is not contention, there is neither defeat nor victory. The supple willow does not contend against the storm, yet it survives. (the way he said that you could visualize what he meant) ... he then continues with this sage wisdom .... Perceive the way of nature and no force of man can harm you. Do not meet a wave head on: avoid it. You do not have to stop force: it is easier to redirect it. Learn more ways to preserve rather than destroy. AVOID, rather than check. Check, rather than hurt. Hurt, rather than maim. Maim, rather than kill. For all life is precious, nor can any be replaced. It took a while for the young me to fully understand it, but once I did, I stopped getting into fights and summoning the demons of war from within, but rest assured, at the moment I would need them, I can summon them on will. That is why you train, so that when it is necessary you are prepared, but to wish for it to become usable is just a demon poking it's head out, you must have the self control to only train, and then, use Master Kan's approach of check, hurt, maim, kill, unless you are only left with one of the alternatives.

[@cainmorano4956]

Yeah Pat Mac, saying true things out loud!

[@farmcat3198]

I went to a Jim Harrison seminar decades ago. He brought up the 90% of fights end up on the ground line. "Those jui-jitsu matches you see on TV last more than an hour. In the street, you've been dead for 55 minutes! The other homies have jumped in and stomped you to death. If you hit the ground, your new fight is to get up!" I'll never forget that line or his delivery of it. I wish there were schools like that one still around. They are becoming increasingly hard to find.

[@danielmarshall4587]

WOW AWESOME stuff ....here in the UK Geoff Thompson says pretty much the same thing.

[@jasestrong]

Great advice SGM Mac! Old MP from Bragg, and career Local LEO, only time I went to the ground was like you said to restrain a person. I did all I could from not letting someone take me down, especially dressed as a street cop 👮‍♀️ or like a turtle 🐢 with a vest and duty gear, even worse in a Swat/ert callout . I had a lifelong back ground in judo, Japanese jujitsu/combat judo, Sambo , and High school wrestling. One thing I learned as a MP/ mostly combat very little Garrison law enforcement and as a cop, bad things happen when you goto the ground. And Tony Blauer is great I had a brother Leo and martial artist who turned me on to Tony and taught Tony’s stuff, and it made the most sense. Tony teaches combat and if a person doesn’t know Tony, I question if they know combat . BJJ is great , it’s basically Judo with leg locks and great in its own arena , but as a stand alone combat art, it’s more a sport now. You need many tools even as a armed civilian. I love the longer more in depth videos you are doing! Thank you!

[@robkerstner6402]

Totally agree with you on this one. BJJ and other combat sports offer some good skills to have in your toolbox, but I give a long list of reasons to stay off of the ground! People also need to understand that BJJ is a sport with rules, no punching, kicking, eye gouges, grion strikes, elbows, headbuts etc. and when your opponent taps, you let go. Don't think your going to do that in a high stress situation when your life is on the line?? Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. If you train hours on hours to let go when someone taps, or you pick up your empty casing whenever you shoot, or put your magazines back in your pouch everytime they're empty rather than drop them, you will most likely do it when your life is on the line also. Something to think about.

[@SnakeBitBob1982]

Be sure to incorporate more than sport training in your bjj self defense toolbox. In every position look for opportunities to end the fight immediately. Things like eye-jab or eye-hook, throat crush, jaw dislocations, etc. are not commonly taught in sport bjj schools, but are definite fight enders.

[@tedheath2326]

it super , super awesome Pat ............. thanks a million Brother - -Ted

[@bbarker5766]

I agree 10,000%!! I try to teach situational awareness to my kids and they're getting better at it but they'll get there. I studied Albo Kali Silat and we always talked about awareness and avoidance but we practiced the art and handling our selves from the ground and up.

[@onpsxmember]

How do you teach them situational awareness? I've seen the examples of pat mac but maybe you go about it in a different examples.

[@Kreginos]

You know, I say this as someone that’s spent a lot of time training bjj, but I think it needs to be said. Bjj has this cult like mindset that it’s the only thing you’ll ever need and although it’s powerful, it’s only really useful on one opponent at a time. If you’re a high level bjj guy then maybe you can handle multiple attackers, but it’s far more likely you get sent to the ER or worse.

[@edwardglenn9310]

The church of BJJ. Absolutely! The fact that BJJ is now synonymous with ground fighting is ridiculous; submission wrestling and ground fighting in traditional martial arts has been around for 100's of years. The Gracie family pulled the biggest marketing coup the martial arts has ever seen. Even Krav Maga couldn't out-market BJJ.

[@Kreginos]

@@amp776 This right here. This is what I’m talking about. Yes, the Gracie’s brought bjj into the forefront and modernized it. No one is gonna take that away from them, but this weird worship thing that’s going on is weird and to pretend that bjj is the end all be all is insane.

[@caiman114]

@@amp776 even good gyms do this

[@Kreginos]

@@amp776 I didn’t say you did. Sorry I think I got you confused with someone else

[@randypennington4968]

Absolutely right preach !

[@jackbuchanan64]

I don’t disagree that a lot of LEO’s can’t fight, however I don’t think thats the primary reason the fights go to the ground. In a street fight, the goal is win and leave. In an LE fight, the goal is to take the resistive subject into custody, and non-compliant subjects cannot be cuffed while standing. It usually goes to the ground as a by-product of attempting to restrain the subject.

[@waylanator]

That’s why you DA MAN Pat Mac! Great info brother, as always. Go Navy, beat Army! ⚓️🤣

[@adamneville1809]

Don't BJJ any guy on the street. Love the content.

[@easttxkravmaga]

I agree completely.

[@mantis1977]

If anyone is going to train for martial arts/boxing in this day and age you do so with the mindset that you never go to the ground. You stay on your feet. And absolutely you de-escalate the situation or get the hell out. Choose wisely my son.

[@alpeter3787]

You talking about bjj with three dudes reminded me of Mike V, the skinhead skater from the 90's who knew how to fight groups of guys. I don't know what kind of person he was, but he definitely understood to control a group of guys trying to jump him.

[@verynearlypure]

Uncle Pat is the best.

[@Harry_Ballzonya]

These morning videos rock!

[@totenfurwotan4478]

Always a good idea to fight tight. As a boxer, not many people are comfortable infighting and it’s a great way to over pressure someone in a fight but staying inside the entire time

[@boereburger6762]

Also, stats that are available on street fights come from LEO reports, not street guys fighting each other. Often a LEO would try to handcuff a perp, the perp resists, they fall, then wrestle for position. No LEO officer tries to subdue a perp with strikes, they are trained to restrain and arrest.

[@DH-bd7gr]

That's not true. Although it probably depends on the state and how woke they are. An officer can use striking on an assaultive suspect in order to gain compliance. Once the suspect becomes compliant, the level of force must be reduced as appropriate.

[@conspiracyfifteensixteenth5756]

I have been in 50 to 60 fights. Last one was against 2 21 year Olds at a gas station. I tried to walk away but one came at me real fast. They Could not handle my foot work. When one tried to punch I would Jab him then immediately attend to the second opponent. To be Successful avoid the fight ,but if it turns into a fight strike fast and hard, keeping calm and constantly moving watching your flanks. Keeping calm is the Key. You won't get tunnel vision or be distracted!

[@DH-bd7gr]

When it comes to officers going to the ground with a suspect, you have to keep in mind that, an officer needs to use handcuffs. If the suspect is proned out, this means going to the ground and potentially your fight will start there. Also in a day and age where cops are being targeted for unjustified lawsuits and even prosecution for political reasons, being competent in ground fighting really pays dividends. Having said that, you are right, most cops can't fight

[@matthewcrawford4216]

I’ve been doing BJJ for a while and striking for a lot longer. I love BJJ but it’s not designed for street fights. Pat is spot on. Avoid fight, de escalate, if forced Quick strikes and get the heck out of dodge.

[@dieselviper7811]

Original bjj is meant for street fights modern sport bjj definitely is not

[@vutran3758]

yep, years of BJJ training wouldn't stop the guy's homie from stomping on your head.

[@christopheclugston]

Ask Pat if Smoky West started stuff. Some Delta and SF learned Operational Fighting in what we call Zero Distance Warfare way different than sport derived fighting.

[@Spartan302]

Really good content from Pat Mac.

[@JamesMargolis79]

So spot on.

[@chef6712]

Don’t know what to think of this video as I just got into my first fight less than 2 weeks ago and it ended up going to the ground. Think I’m gonna start some BJJ as well as Boxing

[@jeffreyhaley991]

Woooo! BIG words from all you professionals who have been in SOOO many street fights!! WHICH is so incredible in itself!! We could just put you in a phone booth with Rener Gracie and see who walks out!

[@PermanentHigh]

There are no rules in a street fight unlike cage fighting

[@LionDowsett]

Thanks pat you’ve given me a lot to think about.

[@keviliciousatyourservice9510]

Avoid places where alchohol is the main thing being served. In this way, you save money, and also have a much lower probability, of being physically attacked. Buy any wine or beer at the grocery store, for 20% of the cost at a bar, save 80%, get zero DUI's and zero fights. 100% of the times that I have seen a fight start, there was alchohol present in quantity and it was either inside, or just outside of ... a bar.

[@snoo333]

thanks for the information. I saw you on jujimufu's channel. subbed. hope to learn more.

[@all4bspinnin311]

Well said, thank you Pat

[@RomeoDelta-gw7dd]

Avoid fights at all costs. Prison is full of guys who wished they just walked away

[@mosin9105]

Thank you

[@jeengyim3072]

100% agree..I wasted my bjj friend during our stand up fight and when we got to the ground he was so tired and to stunned to do anything..so I submitted him..he was pretty pissed

[@rubiconairtv]

Greco Roman incorporating clinch striking! Gotta be able to avoid takedowns and strike while in the clinch.

[@Harry_16710]

"Guys are dicks." You can't beat Pat Mac's teaching precepts! 💪🏽🇺🇲🤘🏽

[@kennyellis5535]

Great advice brother

[@MackTrainingAcademy]

Pac seems like a stand up guy. Would love to get to train with and learn from him.

[@connor4010]

Kenpo is probably one of the best for street fights eyes throat groin knees are always targets and then run

[@tonybreward8678]

I worked the doors in the uk for over 10yrs in the 3rd most violent city , The only guys I personally saw go to the ground were either out cold or semi , I was always alone and learned real quick how to de escalate if not verbally then I would use a fast hard push that would send them flying, 9 times out of 10 it backed them down, If it didn’t I would use a front kick with the ball of the foot into the solar plexus. If the push didn’t back them down then they would run onto the kick making it even worse for them.

[@mase7207]

All Cus D’Amato Mike Tyson stuff. Love that style.

[@blackbeard0323]

I dig it!

[@mikehawkswollen5819]

I agree. The last place you want to be in a street fight is on the ground. You never know who is with the person your fighting. Getting your head stepped by someone you didn't even know was a threat

[@tusccountyjiujitsu]

Been training BJJ since 1996 and I completely agree with everything you said. I teach Jiu Jitsu now but it is focused on defending against punches and using submissions and escapes to stand back up. I have also been training karate and kickboxing for 40+ years so we do a lot of stand up striking in class.

[@Aaros-SL]

Last street fight I was in(defending the honor of my lady) I took the guy down with a double leg as he was quite a bit bigger than me. I got the best of him but I also took two kicks to the face from his buddy before it was over. In retrospect I should have relied on my hands and knocked out the big first. 100% agree with what was said in this video.

[@onpsxmember]

3:35 If you don't do any standup, you're not ready for a street fight. - strategically quoted Pat Mac I was instructed in the arts of Carlin, Burr and the dark arts of Stanhope. Videos on descalation skills would be nice as well as more on learning and training situational awareness.

[@tomwilliams1821]

Great video

[@RoosterCogburn1]

You have to be versatile- standing and ground work- but don’t focus solely on one. BJJ has applications if the fight goes that way but it’s not the be all end all. And as Pat says avoid at all costs is the best defense

[@constantinvaldor2281]

Mac, can you comment on Royce Gracie and his brothers training operators in the Unit? How useful was the training?

[@buckybarnes5241]

THANK YOU! BJJ is great in MMA. MMA is a sport. Fought under very controlled circumstances. Stop pretending it's actual combat. Every single street fight I've been in I was outnumbered. I also rarely had the room to go to the ground safely. A barstool to the back of the head as you're pulling guard ends your night real quick. So does breaking your skull when it accidently hits the concrete during a double leg takedown while fighting between cars in a parking garage.

[@bri13wvu]

I have done enough BJJ to know that even 20-30 lbs weight/strength disadvantage is hard to overcome on the ground, unless you are a lot better than your opponent. What about early UFC though, right, Royce Gracie took down and submitted a lot of strikers. Granted it wasn't a legit street fight. In the early 2000s when BJJ was newer in the States, the gym I went to devoted time every class to striking. It was a mix of Gracie and Machado influence. I have been to other schools since where they are very BJJ competition focused, and no striking is taught. I will give credit to the Gracie schools I've researched lately as they seem to consider stand up a vital part of training. I will say that if you don't know some ground technique, you can be pretty screwed if the fight goes there. Here's the thing though, you can't just dabble in it and hope to be competent. It's so complex and deep, and ever evolving. Pat you and other guys with greco roman wrestling backgrounds definitely have a leg up, but still...

[@thefamily2707]

Always awesome content 👍🏻

[@onde-ja-civil]

For a moment there I thought Mrs. Mac was going to drag Bob by the neck with the golf cart as some sort of shenanigan😄

[@Wile_E._Wolf]

Same thought I had

[@earlmiranda7310]

I wrestled in HS and competed in BJJ for 2 years, its irresponsible and delusional to think going to the ground in a street fight will give you the advantage. I've trained and fought in Muay Thai for the last 18 months and my balance has increased exponentially. My understanding of footwork, timing and accuracy has helped me improve for a fight.

[@bradwilliams1869]

Yup!

[@bine35]

I get your point but bjj is not just about being offensive with it but defensive, if the guy is stronger than you and grabs you or takes you down or you stumble on a rock and do end up on the ground, you need to have good survival posture to not take damage and have good escapes to get out of being mounted or sidemounted and be able to reguard and then you can disengage and get back to your feet to run away. So yeah you need strikes, but you for sure need BJJ just to defend yourself from being grabbed and surviving on the ground. I don't wanna go to the ground offensively if I don't have to, but I sure as shit want to know what to do there if I end up there against my will. It's like what Jocko says, nr 1 is to run away, bjj is there for when they grab you so you can run away. Striking can be good but you need space to generate power or it's not gonna do anything, see how many fights go to decision in UFC, it's very hard to KO somebody if you can't create the element of deception (doesnt see ur strike coming so can't flex his neck) + collision, opponent moves into your strike. Like you can hit someone a lot and it just won't do anything, choking someone eliminates a lot of time, you can choke someone right away but you can't KO a decent fighter right away. Striking can be good with surprise, but I'd rather not trade at all with my opponent, cuz every strike also opens you up, I'd much rather keep a very defensive posture to protect my jaw and stay far away then close distance and trip someone to the ground, you can also just take someone down and stay standing for far more effective strikes like stomps, you don't have to follow them down. But even then what's the point of striking, choking is just so much more effective to actually take them out. (I don't believe in joint locks for same reason, opponent is still in the fight and can cry out for help, draw a knife etc.) So it's not just about taking someone down offensively, you need to be able to prevent it and if you do end up there which can happen for a lot of reasons, you need to be able to defend yourself on the ground and escape. Especially in the US with how many people have done highschool wrestling. I'd also much rather choke my opponent for no damage, no legal repercussions pay his bills, than KO him and he hits his head and dies which has historically happened many times. So I do agree to an extent it shouldn't be your primary strategy to go the ground, but the defensive aspects shouldn't be so easily dismissed.

[@cayers63]

Perfect.

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