Street Track Failures: Episode 6 - San José

[@3DWorldMan]

imagine the W13 trying to do a lap here before they removed the tram tracks

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I think any of the F1 cars would've loathed that section. At least the tracks were removed though.

[@jraybay]

Lol

[@plisskenationbackfromthede3657]

"Bono, my spine is gone"

[@andre_star7776]

My back hurts by just thinking about it

[@KayDizzelVids]

The porpoising is already doing havoc on Lewis’ spine…

[@HighlandCall]

This somehow wasn't the only Indycar track disrupted by train tracks - Baltimore had them as well and it caused issues in their second of three seasons running there when they removed a chicane (temporarily; they reinstalled it after practice). There are a fair few Indycar ones to include: Baltimore could be one; there's also the Sao Paolo street circuit that included a concrete section that was so slick that in the first race they had to postpone qualifying and replace it with extra practice because they couldn't regrade it until the evening, and thought it was unfair to hold qualifying on an unsuitable track. Believe it also rained either that year or the following one and god only knows what the combination of rain and a surface that already had cars moving all over the place finding grip would have been!

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I think both of these tracks will more than likely feature in this series at some point.

[@rosy_kykhn]

the são paulo race was wet in both 2010 and 2011, and the latter is still what i consider one of the wettest races in Indycar history (so wet it had to be run over 2 days). circuit it's self, i agree, was kinda rubbish. also, i think the reason for that concrete section being so slick may have been the amount of dust/sand on the track surface? atleast from what i remember of what i saw, that's what was happen with that.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@rosy_kykhn I think it was incredibly dusty from what I remember and the organisers definitely didn't have the best of luck weather wise.

[@andre_star7776]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 This year the São Paulo Street Circuit returns in FE, but in a modified course that still includes some sections from the original one, so... not a failure at all

[@martijnkosters9024]

I saw the video I instantly remembered it as 'the one with the railtracks', but also wondered if there also was another. Thanks for that.

[@Jimlaad43]

Great series mate! Some other ideas: Beijing International Street Circuit (Olympic) - Superleague Formula in 2010. Finished so late it didn't reach FIA Grade status it needed, so the race had to be Non-Championship. Beijing International Street Circuit (Jingkai) - A1GP 2006. A hairpin so tight that cars couldn't make it around without stopping or reversing. It was removed and replaced with a hairpin which was a tiny bit easier, but had the pit entrance wall on the exit which was just as bad. Bern ePrix - A silly paddock solution made getting in and out of the pitlane easy. A compromised startline location into an unnecessary triple chicane as the first corner inevitably led to a full grid pileup on the race start. The downhill section was cool and once the drivers had survived lap 1 (after a messy restart order argument) the track produced some good racing, but it never came back. Cagliari Street Circuit - A circuit too tight for anything that somehow hosted F3000 on Sardinia, and was roundly dropped after two seasons in a row. Curaçao Grand Prix - A 1985 attempt to get the Carribean island part of the Netherlands to join the F1 calendar hosted an F3000 race to prove its worth, but the tight street circuit wasn't suited to F3000s and the track would need significant upgrades not possible before it was never held again.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'm glad your enjoying this series, more will definitely be on the way. I like all of these suggestions. One of which (Cagliari) I didn't even know existed, so will certainly be doing some research on that one. All of these could be potential future episodes.

[@AlonsoRules]

that Beijing A1GP track was so bad they had to dip the clutch to try and get round the hairpin

[@AlfieSimracing]

I'm so glad i found this channel, what a gem! Apologies to add to the already large amounts of requests but i think two circuits that could potentially be really interesting is the early version of Baku street circuit(s) used for GT stuff from 2012 to 2014 and also the Baltimore grand prix circuit used in ALMS

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Thanks for your compliments about the channel, it's very much appreciated thanks. As far as tracks go, both are good requests. Both are likely to end up in this series.

[@14stockfan]

This track almost immediately made me think of Baltimore, which had almost identical issues down to railroad tracks, a funky chicane on the main straight, awkward pit exit, and a too tight, too narrow hairpin.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I can see the similarities between the two.

[@StevePhoenix]

Once again, great video. If you take requests, please consider talking about Portrero de los Funes. In my opinion, it's an amazing street circuit that even hosted FIA GT Championship races besides Argentinian national series, but as far as I know it hasn't hosted a race since 2018 and locals say it's fallen into disrepair.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Glad you enjoyed the video. I definitely take requests. I can't guarantee that they'll end up into videos but I will definitely do my best. Plus, requests introduce me to street tracks I'd either forgotten about or didn't know existed. I'll certainly be doing some research on that one. I know the track you mean though and it was spectacular that's for sure.

[@plisskenationbackfromthede3657]

That track is amazing. Id argue to say most beautiful in the world. Nice layout too. Up there with the nurburgring imo

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@plisskenationbackfromthede3657 For a street track, it is incredibly scenic.

[@plisskenationbackfromthede3657]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 its hard to believe its a "street" course, more like a permanent race track that just happens to be public roads as well lol

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@plisskenationbackfromthede3657 The same as what I was thinking.

[@MCucuzza408]

I attended all three of these events . Had a great time. Wish the original layout could have been used. I live there and it’s clear why they couldn’t do that logistically. Honestly surprised they ever got this event “off the ground” in the first place. This race was moved 70 mi south to Laguna Seca for 2008 but the IndyCar/ChampCar merger prevented that since IndyCar had a race booked at nearby Sonoma, 100 mi to the north. Sebastian Bourdais actually set an unofficial track record at Laguna in the DP01 in a testing session but the cars never got to race there. Glad I got to see them race in 2007, coolest American GP car ever made by far.

[@kimifan06]

I went to this event as a kid all three years and loved it. In terms of the support racing, that wasn't a problem. The Atlantic series(saw your note) raced all three years, as did fBMW, historic NASCAR, and drifting. Edit:also a two seater car with an f1 engine giving rides, which everyone loved to watch.

[@BillyRamirez]

My hometown track! I was there for one of the races. I remember it was very boring with little passing. The upside was that part of my commute was smoother for a while thanks to street prep.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

It's always cool to hear from people who were at the races I've done tracks on for this series. Despite the lack passing, I hope you still enjoyed the event all the same.

[@BillyRamirez]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 A friend worked at Ernst & Young at the time and we watched most of the race from a building overlooking the circuit. I wish I had been interested in motorsports at the time.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@BillyRamirez That's awesome to hear! Which turns did the building overlook? Or was it all of the track?

[@BillyRamirez]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 Halfway through the stretch between turns 7 and 1, at the corner of Almaden and San Carlos.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@BillyRamirez Ah ok, awesome view of the track then.

[@TheOz91]

For 2008, it was also the fact that Champ Car ceased to exist since they merged and reunited with IRL. The last ever Champ Car race was the 2008 Long Beach Grand Prix--the rest of the 2008 calendar was canceled anyway.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That may have had something to do with it as well.

[@TheShockninja]

I remember a decade ago commenting on another KZbin vid with those nasty bumps of that circuit. I used to have back problems and that vid could've paralyzed me if I raced on it LOL. Thankfully I have not had any back issues since 2016.

[@mikulitsi1819]

Saw this in my youtube homepage. First thing I remember about this track is definitely those railtracks lololol. Anyways great video

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video and that it was recommended by KZbin. This track certainly had interesting characteristics that's for sure.

[@philipkalin1928]

I mean lets be honest, it looked fucking awesome to see the cars go over the rails. But its stupid.

[@seawolf9616]

Excellent series so far. I've really enjoyed all parts. You might already have gotten enough submissions from other commenters, but I think one great track to cover would be the DTM-only track Alemannenring in Singen. It ran from 1991 to 1995 and is known as the southernmost race track ever used in Germany. I do not know why it stopped being used, although I think it had to do mainly with DTM going international, although this is just assumption. Another track that might be worth looking at (Although it is technically still in use for motorsport revival events) would be the Donauring which ran in Ingolstadt from 1949 to 1954. It was an anomaly in the area due to DKW settling into Ingolstadt at the time and the track managed to reach audiences of around 100000 for it's yearly event, in which motorcycles and Formula 3 cars (Obviously in seperate races) drove, although often the Formula 3 cars and motorcycles had exchangeable engines at the time. It might be pretty hard finding historic footage for the Donauring. As far as I know it stopped being used due to monetary issues and lack of entries after the 1954 race.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Glad you're enjoying this series. Both are really cool requests. Definitely, not familiar with the Donauring, will have to look that one up in terms of research.

[@dailyjetboating3607]

Just found this channel Great content 🎉 The grainy British commentary matches the race footage perfectly So jazzy

[@99dndd]

I love this series. Credit to the the organisers for fixing the issues but the spectators who got the bad view in year 1 would never come back. You should have a look at the Birmingham Superprix.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Glad to hear your enjoying this series. Birmingham SuperPrix has been requested a few times before so I plan on doing an episode on that for the future.

[@From.the.408]

One of the biggest problems that killed interest in the race was only tangentially track related. They sold General Admission tickets, which didn't guarantee the seat. Only there was barely anywhere you could see the track with a General Admission pass. The organizers put up green tarp along the fences around most of the track the first year, blocking any potential view from the standing room General Admission areas.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Ah ok, thanks for the additional information.

[@theflagstand]

I very much appreciate that you didn't spoil the winners!

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I thought I'd keep that information out of this video. I had included that information in previous episodes and thought it wasn't worth putting them in anymore.

[@dmzedd77]

I lived near Japantown in Downtown San Jose during the years of this Grand Prix. San Jose isn't known to be a racing city (outside of the famous San Jose Speedway dirt track), but the excitement was as if the Sharks had finally brought home the Stanley Cup (which we are still waiting for)!

[@MaxUpGearUp]

Denver Street Circuit around the Pepsi Centrer (now Ball Arena) soon? It has some moments and was in my hometown and I would like for it to be featured since it’s the only mainstream series track I Colorado (other than NASCAR Weekly Series at Colorado National Speedway in Durango, CO.)

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I've had this requested a few times recently. Will more than likely do an episode on this.

[@Amused_brain]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 Denver also had a CART race around the Denver Civic Center in 1990 and 1991. Maybe a "double" that Denver couldn't hold / keep a street circuit race?

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@Amused_brain I could probably do both tracks. Whether it would be separate videos or be put in the same video, I'm not sure.

[@jimupp2235]

I remember the first race there. I could not believe my eyes that the indy cars had to jump over tram tracks...insane!

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That definitely is quite the sight.

[@vulduv]

"The rail tracks are gone. You can rejoice." Well that's kinda dumb really. Removing transit infrastructure inside of a downtown area. And it was only a problem due to the high speeds they had to go over them at. If the track was redesigned to have it be a substantial corner instead, then the rails wouldn't be a problem anymore. As the speed would be at least a bit slower and they'd cross them at a much shallower angle. Rather than dead f***ing head on.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

You raise a good point their. I think (and this is just a guess) that the reason a tighter type of corner wasn't created, was because they wouldn't have much space to create a suitably tight chicane/corner. All whilst not causing the pit lane exit to have an awkward merger, or indeed for there to be enough space to have a pit exit at all.

[@vulduv]

​@@tydyeracinggaming4742 That is true, it would make the already quite narrow track even narrower. Honestly feels like putting the circuit in downtown was a cursed decision from the start. Since downtowns tend to have much more narrow streets. (And for good reason.)

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@vulduv I'd have been interested to see what the original proposal was (not in downtown San José) for the track layout. It would be intriguing to see if that would have been any better.

[@vulduv]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 That's something I'm also curious about. Since tracks getting rejected is not always due to quality.

[@tperk]

You'd think someone would have considered the optics of these cars crashing over the light rail tracks, and then someone else likely said, "WTF, it will look as cool as hell even if every car breaks in half before the checkered."

[@chrisguardiano6143]

The most notable thing about this track that I remember the most is Paul Tracy & Alex Tagliani getting into a shoving match at the 2006 race after Tracy recklessly took Tagliani out of the race while trying to get back on the track from the escape road.

[@ZontarDow]

Given the attendance it's a surprise the track didn't see a return after unification.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I was quite surprised as well. Although, one of the reasons the event couldn't continue apparently, was because a building development that was about to be constructed, was where one of the big grandstands were. I guess they thought that because of that it wasn't financially viable anymore.

[@ZontarDow]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 Well it is what it is, plus it's not like IndyCar is missing it given Nashville has managed to more then fill the void.

[@SiVlog1989]

I know its history in hosting the disastrous Dallas Grand Prix of 1984, but I'm curious as to what you make of that infamous Street circuit in Texas. Was the governing body to blame for staging the race in typically oppressive Texan heat, leading to the problems with the track surface, or was it down to the organisers themselves getting it hopelessly wrong

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'll have to look that one up if I do an episode on this track (which is the plan for the future). I don't know enough about how the date came about to give an opinion on that yet. It was certainly hot though for the drivers that's for sure.

[@SiVlog1989]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 obviously it's only one source (and even then I'd have to double check) but it mentioned how the ones organising the F1 calendar were focused on filling the European summer, rather than taking into account the local conditions (Phoenix was another in 1989, although they did move it to the season opener in 1990 and 1991)

[@MrTakaMOSHi]

My home track! (If you can call it that as it no longer exists) I attended the '05 race. Lots of on track action. The added chicane made the track feel unfinished, and the rail crossing was more appropriate for stadium trucks lol. Strange sightlines w/ the large buildings and the track being as flat as it was Everyone was happier when Indycar went to Sonoma, only 2 hours north, and later to Laguna Seca, not far south of SJ

[@astideri3543]

Hii man, really love your videos! I was wandering if you could make a video about the Jingkai Street circuit in China. This circuit was used for a round in the 06-07 A1GP season and one hairpin was so tight that the cars couldn't make the turn. There were also various other safety issues with this track which is worth to look into!

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the content. This track seems to be heavily requested, so I would imagine that a video will be done on this circuit.

[@psychlops924]

The Champ Car circuit in Las Vegas was pretty good, shame it didn't last

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That track will more than likely feature in this series.

[@TMcKeon408]

I was there for the first race in 2005, it was my birthday gift from my parents. I was the only one in my family excited to be there (mostly because we just got back from a vacation in Lake Tahoe) I remember we stayed for at lest an hour before we went home. I did have fun though and still have the die cast car from that day.

[@JK7kaye]

Just wanted to say I like this little niche your channel covers.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'm glad you're enjoying the content. This series has definitely been more popular than I anticipated but I'll definitely keep going, along with hopefully adding other sorts of racing content to this channel.

[@mrserious42]

I remember watching all the coverage leading up to this, with the shots of them flying over the tracks in qualifying, I was just stunned. I thought there was no way they'd run the race. Then race day came and they just sent it... when the green flag dropped it's still one of the most surreal things I think I've seen in my years of watching racing; That shot of the whole pack literally flying over those tracks... Insane.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That was quite the sight to behold, that's for sure.

[@jacekatalakis8316]

I'd argue both Denver tracks (yes there was more than one), the Detroit downtown circuit (AKA the one F1 then Inddycar raced on), the Meadowlands, and maybe even Tamiami Park, and the early 2000s Miami steet course could be on this series Oh and this randomly showed up in ARCA SImRacing as well, I don't recall ARCA running there. Somewhere I have correspondence with the ChampCarChallenge team that wanted to put San Jose in their total conversion for F1C 99-02 but couldn't get the sign off from the track to do so

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Those could work as track suggestions, I'll definitely check them out. Also it's been a very long time since I heard anyone mention about the ARCA Sim Racing game. As far as I'm aware ARCA didn't run at San José.

[@jacekatalakis8316]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 No Arca did not. ASA sort of did at San Jose as part of the GTA class with Trans-Am if I remember it right in 06 though. I've no idea why ASR went and put San Jose in. Then again why they put the defaultt Joseville from rFactor in, I don't know either. I did see you did the Bayfront Park track which was the early 2000s one I was suggesting, I don't remember the name of the one IMSA used in the 80s/CART ran once in 95 before going to Homestead. Also suggested by a Kiwi friend, nobody remembers the Wellington street races at all. Aussie V8s in 93-94 I think it was, ran in Wellington, NZ. There's so many street tracks from just the 80s/90s as wel. I wouldn't real call Vancouver, BC, a failure. I mean you have Tacoma and Spokane, both part of NASCAR's abandoned Left/Right series, you got IMSA and its various attempts, you got CART, you got various touring cars that tried it (Diepholtz anyone, or Avus? I'm struggling to think of a French one besides Pau which is not a failure at all)

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@jacekatalakis8316 Ah ok, fair enough. I believe the green car that hit the wall in this video was one of the GTA class cars but I could very much be mistaken. It's amazing when you think about it (and this is what the requests from people for this series has made me realise) that there are several street tracks that have been used in motorsport's history. Possibly, into the 200+ . It bodes well for the longevity of this series, however by searching up so much information, my eyes may turn into the shape of a street circuit.

[@master_pretzel8536]

As flawed as this track is, it holds a special place in my heart, since this was my first ever race I got to see in person. I’ll say though, idk if it was because the on track action wasn’t great or because I was so young, I remember more of the off track activities than the racing itself. I remember them holding car shows around the track each with a different theme, with the only 2 cars I vividly remember being a veilside rx7 and a silver mclaren f1.

[@tomanderson6335]

Loving this series! How about a couple of short-lived tracks from the '90s that the DTM visited, Singen and Helsinki?

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Those are very cool requests, I don't think I've had one for Helsinki yet. Glad to hear your enjoying the series.

[@TrolledBy]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 I was also going to suggest the Helsinki Thunder street circuit to be featured in the future

[@TheCobCAP]

can't imagine needing to get to class with this track in place

[@acquaruggine]

I remeber when i was in Shanghai, there was a DTM race back in 2010, but they also did in 2004. They were both street circuits, could look into those!

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Both tracks could very well feature in this series.

[@JamboP26]

That was the one that launched a DTM car off the drain cover I believe...?

[@eholanda01]

In a State that already has Laguna Seca, Fontana and Long Beach as race tracks, and it looks like there's another one coming at the Thermal Club, having one more on a street track in a circuit as poorly designed as this one seems unnecessary.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Perhaps so, especially compared to Long Beach. However, it drew a lot of spectators, so had it not have been for the new building development, it could've gone on for longer.

[@eholanda01]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 You're right. And it would make a good home for FE in California. Without the rails........of course 😄

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@eholanda01 Maybe it would work for Formula E. I'd certainly watch it.

[@mattcorb2411]

Baltimore Street Course has to be next. It also had light rail tracks.

[@antborb7215]

Still can't believe there was a street race 30 minutes away from my house. Shame it's not around anymore but it's ok. Laguna Seca isn't too far away anyways lol

[@Hayden3210]

I remember you from the rene binder videos, glad i stumbled across you again mate

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Yes, I used to do those videos. However, I wasn't happy with them looking back, so I kind of wanted to have a fresh start and do different racing related content. I'm glad you've enjoyed the video and it's great to see you back.

[@Hayden3210]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 yes mate, if you havent thought of it yet have a look at the A1GP Chinese street circuit (Beijing i believe) the hairpin was so tight they had to get rid of the wall on exit

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@Hayden3210 That track has been highly requested. Will definitely end up being an episode.

[@Hayden3210]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 good shit dude, keep up the good work

[@penguincamp]

I think they said in the 2005 broadcast that the race had been approved dangerously close to its race date, so there was very little the organizers could do about the layout. I wish I could find the timestamp but I honestly can't be bothered to watch such a ridiculous race again.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I didn't hear anything whilst watching back the 2005 race. I didn't watch it all though, so potentially a high chance I missed the commentators or pit reporters say that.

[@penguincamp]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 Haha, I don't blame you. The whole race was boring, even with the ridiculous track flaws. Well I'll let you know if I ever try to find it.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@penguincamp Fair enough. The race wasn't great, it's just that people remember this track because of the bumps.

[@BMordecai]

Hi mate, great videos!! Could you set up a playlist please so that I can easily binge-watch them all?

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Glad you're enjoying the videos! I can sort out a playlist as well. Keep meaning to and keep forgetting. I will do it though.

[@BMordecai]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 good stuff mate 👍

[@roddy6924]

Nice work. Glad I found your channel. Liked and Subscribed 😎

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Of course the like and subscription are very much appreciated, thanks.

[@berserkfuryyy6798]

I remember this when I was a kid on the speed channel. I still don't know how some finished that race.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'm amazed that amount of cars finished. It was still attritional. However, I would've thought more would've retired from that race.

[@JamboP26]

That hairpin reminds me of A1GP's Durban Street circuit. I did enjoy those races, but I think the racing action itself wasn't that good tbh

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I can see the similarities in that certainly.

[@Peterd1900]

Jingkai Street Circuit, held a round of A1GP in 2006, when the teams turned up they discovered could not actually negotiate the hairpin that leaf to the track being redesigned between practice sessions, shortening the track from 1.9 miles to 1.3 miles, The new track was no better as a new hairpin was tight leading to drivers having to avoid the pit entry wall, manhole covers and advertising banners came loose Qualifying ended up being cancelled, both races had to start under safetycar cos turn one was deemed unsafe

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

This track has been requested a fair bit, so I imagine it will end up being an episode at some point.

[@continentalrcinglg]

The only interesting thing that ever happened in the San Jose GP was the Tracy-Tagliani altercation in 2006.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That was quite a moment wasn't it.

[@DaveyZee72]

I hate to say it as I’m a massive champ car fan. But CART had a massive lying problem when it came attendance figures. 120,000 is a severe inflation. compare the trackside infrastructure to an event like the Adelaide 500 which sees 180,000+ people through the gates over 4 days. There’s no way this circuit could accomodate 25,000+ per day average assuming he event was held over 4 days. Cart even said they had over 100,000 at Laguna seca 😂 and that was dismissed by one of the former track managers on a podcast. Anyway I’m really enjoying this series. You’re creating great content and I’ll suggest a few as they come to mind in future videos. As for now in keeping with Champcar/ IndyCar themed events I’ll suggest the early 2010s Baltimore events.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

Ah ok. I mean to be fair, considering the size of the track, I'd still say a crowd of 40/50,000 on race day is pretty good. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the content. I'll more than likely do Baltimore. That track has become the most requested one so far.

[@nicolesgaming8917]

At least they learned from the San Jose light rail tracks and installed a chicane before the light rail tracks in Baltimore....

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That's very true, to be fair.

[@litreocola6447]

So did they completely remove the lrt route there lol? After the race was abandoned was the route at least replaced?

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I must be honest I don't know for sure. Some light rail tracks still look as though they're there when you look on Google Street View (with the street being shown in August 2022). However, they might be completely different things.

[@Gordanovich02]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 From what I've read they actually laid a temporary tarmac; the tracks were still there but with the worst of the dips filled in.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@Gordanovich02 Ah ok. That would make sense.

[@johnelliott422]

Strange coincidence as I was watching the first San Jose race last night! The train tracks made for interesting watching and to be fair to the drivers none of the cars got thrown offline due to the bumps. Probably still better than that Nashville track they use now

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

The drivers did really well in keeping control of the cars. That is quite the coincidence that's for sure.

[@johnelliott422]

Just been looking at other classic tracks like the meadowlands, tiamiami park and even an old imsa race at del mar all worthy of a video imo, great job with the tracks you’ve done so far

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@johnelliott422 Glad your enjoying this series. I can definitely check those tracks out. Haven't heard of the IMSA location before. A good suggestion and will definitely do some research on that one.

[@johnelliott422]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 that’s the good thing with America, so many places where there’s been a random street circuit used only once or twice, I’m sure there’s hundreds that could be uncovered

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@johnelliott422 Fair enough. I'll certainly be searching the web browsers for them that's for sure.

[@BadWallaby]

Anyone know if this track is available in any sims? Assetto corsa, rFactor2, ETC.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I wish I could give you an answer to that. Unfortunately, I don't play enough of these games to know whether any mods for this track exist.

[@GatoradeCupSeriesX94]

Soon to be added: the Chicago street course

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'm willing to give it a try to see how it goes. It's definitely unique and it could go really well. It could absolutely go wrong, but I'm going into that event with an open mind.

[@ProPilotF82]

Bro that’s Oklahoma turned 180 degrees 0:47

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

It does look like that to be fair. Good spot.

[@patrickracer43]

If I had a nickel for every time an Indycar track had rail tracks running through it I'd have two nickels

[@unpass]

That speed bump is pretty much California's freeways in a nutshell. Anyone who has driven on I-880 knows.

[@vtm914]

60’s and 70’s F1 cars caught air at the Nurburgring, a couple of railroad track bumps is not a tragedy.

[@thefinisher04]

I think you can make the Hanoi street circuit which was gonna be at 2020 season if it wasn't for COVID pandemic

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I would do an episode on that track if it wasn't for the fact it doesn't count for this series. The track must've been used in a racing capacity to count for this series. I wouldn't rule out a separate video on that track, it just wouldn't be part of this series. Good suggestion though.

[@thefinisher04]

@@tydyeracinggaming4742 i just started following your channel cuz of this series, and I like it so much, keep it up!!?

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying this series and that you're following the channel because of it. More will definitely be on the way.

[@liamosullivanracing8879]

What about the São Paulo Street Circuit from INDYCAR it was such a great circuit that only lasted about 3 years and was a shame considering a large amount of Brazilian drivers

[@liamosullivanracing8879]

Or some other suggestions 2007 Champcar Las Vegas circuit and 1995 Miami CART Bicenntenial Park

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

@@liamosullivanracing8879 All three of them are good shouts at being included in this series. All of them are great suggestions.

[@MikeWooshy]

That transam XKR.....

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

That is quite something isn't it.

[@liviustan5438]

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[@harrisonosirrah]

Formula E raced over tram tracks in switzerland. Bot parrallel amd perpendicular. It disnt seem to be a problem there. But the way tracks are set into the road could be very different there.

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I think it might've been something to do with how the tracks were positioned on the road.

[@joshuathecat-human1247]

I don't know why. This feel like Baltimore once again.

[@orionparish9858]

Also by 2008, Champ Car was dead, and only Indycar remained. I mean that literally as well. Champ Car had finally completely and utterly collapsed after years of problems, and Indycar took over some of their tracks once it folded. San Jose wasn't one obviously.

[@maximeleclerc9596]

One track I want to hear about it Montreal e-prix track

[@tydyeracinggaming4742]

I think it's the first time I've been requested this track. Will definitely have a look at it that's for sure.

[@waifubreaks1572]

San Jose is the most populated American city than nobody seems to talk about lol.

Links to the CART races: 2005 -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/epqqmoyAprCZmdU 2006 -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmXZZqyCmZ6EmNU 2007 -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6fPmoSwibmKp9k

[@liviustan5438]

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[@razvanstan9295]

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[@liviustan5438]

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