Carnage - Everything You Need To Know About Supermang!

[@MindieJ]

haha thanks for the mention Scotty, yep my budget has been blown way out and your pretty spot on with the LS costs ect, we will definitely have a friendly race soon :)

[@lsgemini7686]

You already won the show and shine VN shootout

[@antonyfrost2541]

Them sounds like racing words ! Y'all bin called out.

[@ashgray8208]

This looks like a good challenge

[@Frontman936]

The red VN is a Berlina so it has to be better

[@raelock8145]

Mindiej and carnage lets see some content between a ls vn and a l67vn do a feature of both vns together

[@richardholdener1727]

Thnx for the shout out!

[@justin3131ify]

I wondered if you would be watching any Aussie stuff 😉

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Thanks Richard, thanks for watching

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Got any thoughts on our situation?

[@XFaTeassainZz]

This series inspired me to do a l67 swapped Crewman. I was thinking about selling the car but I decided to make it a little bit interesting

[@mrcasperjensen]

That’s cool.. I love different

[@lukefox4170]

Fuk yea love crewmans

[@vincekara9446]

I'm a Ford man but a truly love Holdens too. I can remember back in teens I had a VK Calais. That was a really nice car! Keep up the great vids! Cheers

[@zeropaloobatheuber1572]

I’ve been building my manual L67 VS for years. I’m particularly proud of my full VX suspension (brakes, LSD, trailing arms and toe control links). Got sidetracked with a JS Vectra big block (3.2) upgrade. 👍🏻🤗

[@ants3503]

Few less wild turkeys in the cooler might gain a 🤏 of time 😂

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Haha, maybe

[@ants3503]

@@STREETMACHINETV hydration is important tho 👍

[@brettwatson-will3388]

I would change the pully for a slightly larger one like you said as sometimes less is more! I would also do what you suggested and run less water in the ice tank...Just drain and refill it between runs so that the water is as cold as possible...Pull the LF Headlight out for shits and giggles and maybe ditch the air filter just for racing? See what happens? Have some fun with it before you whack a turbo on the old girl like you plan to... She will crack on then Scotty.

[@mollyandspike2852]

You've fast become my favourite KZbin presenter

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Thank you

[@paulcoote3094]

I have really enjoyed the supermang build. As far as I am concerned it's been a great outcome. Going ten's is great but it comes with the hassle of andra upgrades etc and further $$$$. I think you have hit the target on this one. Well done.

[@amounifnd]

Cant believe you had to explain why its called Supermang. Too many haters. This has been one of the best most honest engine build series and the host has done an amazing job. Best to ignore the trolls. LS swaps are getting pretty boring now and everyone does the same thing over and over. Keep up the good work. The L67 is a frustrating blow to mod as you reach its limits real quick. Ugrade an ecotec, or swap the L67 for a Whipple.

[@1toonhead]

I remember the first episode with Supermang and you brought it to compete with another KZbinr who brought a EB Falcon (same era car) and you where going to compete with it which never happened. It was also going to be budget turbo vs budget supercharger. You had the supercharger option.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

They couldn't wait, they built their car, raced it and sold it

[@backyard_mechanic]

I hated how much you paid for the car but I think you really nailed it in time, the prices are stupid now and you can't get one for less than you paid. Great video guys, you were spot on and had me agreeing the entire time. LS and barra are great swaps for easy power but those are getting way to expensive. The other thing people don't take into account is all the extras that go along with the swap, it is not as simple as chuck the engine in and off you go. You need trans, diff, fuel lines, computers, wiring, and so much more to get it going. A $5k engine swap can easily reach $20k plus before you even start it for the first time.

[@DamienAlba]

Unpopular opinion: I like the sound of a v6 with a decent exhaust. Add the supercharger and it’s better than old mate Dave and his clapped out LS stocker with bashed out cats

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

Scotty you are on the right track with your analysis, but might have the wrong conclusion. Before I go into an explanation, firstly congratulations on making the right call to look at the data. Data is bullshit proof and will tell you the truth whether you like it or not. The reason you are seeing a declining boost pressure is as you suspect an efficiency problem, but just maybe not the one you might think. As you well know as the revs increase, the engine requires proportionally more air (duhhh captain obvious - not factoring in Volumetric Efficiency changes). But as you rightly note the engine is not being supplied enough air to sustain filling the cylinders and then a constant additional 12psi of boost. BUT the problem may not be the blower. You are 100% correct in saying as boost increases so does the heat. I don't know how many time I have tried to preach that not all boost shown in the gauge PSIG (Pressure Shown In Gauge) is real boost, because expanded air will tell the gauge sensor that it has boost that isn't really there. But for some reason people have difficulty in wrapping their heads around the simple fact that hot air expands, and not all boost shown in the data logger is real boost. You may have "pressure" but not have air. So what is my theory? I think the W2A intercooler is where a large part of your flow restriction is. That is a cheap barrel cooler that was made in Chinese factory and core efficiency may not be the number 1 priority of the company that made it. You might go as far as saying they probably lack a bit of R&D when they "borrowed" the design. At best you are probably only looking at a sectional area of 100mm x 100mm of effective core area. If you compare that to say a typical 300mm x 100mm A2A intercooler, it only has 1/3 of the area to pass the air through. If you welded in a couple of sensors at both ends of the barrel piping you would be able to measure pressure drop across the cooler. I believe it is this high back pressure (pressure differential of the two) at the cooler that is causing efficiency problems at the blower (causing air to bypass the rotors and increase heat). If you think about it and use the 3" piping as the median area of flow (may not be the smallest sectional area). i.e. You have a point from which to work. 3" ID pipe has an area of 4560mm^2. If the core area is 100mm x 100mm that is 10,000mm^2, BUT you have a long aluminum core inside of the barrel so the "air" volume inside the barrel cooler may be less that half of that, so it may have a sectional area of somewhere around the 4560mm^2 of the 3" tube or even less. Now you might think well I have around the same area in the open parts of the barrel core as I do the 3" piping, but that doesn't factor in the immense drag trying to pass air across very tiny cross sectional cores. I don't know what you know about fluid dynamics, but air flows best in the centre of a round pipe, where it is least effected by the drag of the sides. The closer to the sides of the pipe the more the air slows down. The barrel cooler core is very small so the effects from the sides of the core is HUGE. To the point you may need 3 or 4 barrel coolers in parallel to flow the same amount of air without causing a lot of pressure drop. You mentioned the extra length of piping might cause a boost drop... Not really because boost doesn't work like that. Once the pipe is full, what air goes into the engine is replaced by fresh air into the pipe at the other end so the pipe will always see the same pressure. What you can get with longer pipes is a slight lag in boost response, and that is because air is elastic. Air is compressible (just like that air compressor in the corner) so when it sees a sudden increase in pressure air the air will push closer together and act like a big spring. Sorry about the long post but the first thing I would do is put sensors on the pipes to see what is going on there before making any other changes.

[@finnycypress9959]

Would love to see a collab with MindieJ

[@MindieJ]

damn straight

[@timtamz0176]

I’m a ford guy, would much rather see a l67 than a Barra or ls in that thing

[@watsisbuttndo829]

Agreed, i dislike the v6 commo with a passion and freely admit the LS is a damn good platform...but would rather watch someone struggle with a left field project than watch another LS swap. Keep the weird projects coming scotty.

[@mrcasperjensen]

I’d love to see a centrifugal supercharger instead.. before a turbo… pleaseeeee Scotty 🤣

[@chrisobrien9334]

Great episode mate. Certainly puts the cost of a conversion into perspective. Luv Richard Holdener. Take care m8.

[@michaelb5330]

Good series Scott Enjoying your thought process and the changes Very much looking forward to seeing the turbo updates which will probably see the most gains Oh and for the tank I’ve seen others use dry ice and glycol with a smaller tank to get cooler temps Just sharing stuff Sounds like the blower is suffering from cavitation Keep up what you do Scott you keep me sane while I’m at work for the week

[@tulebox7370]

You're absolutely right about running it out of its efficiency range (I'm also a big fan of Richards work) is there any chance of finding an Eaton M112 and bolting it on, to make some super mang mangs

[@ChristopherHallett]

Skip the old gen blowers altogether and whack a fucken TVS2300 on it.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Would be nice

[@Brodes1983]

Intercooler effectiveness also depends on contact time: the faster the air that moves across it the shorter the contact time of the hot air to the cooling tubes and the warmer air discharge. Bigger intercooler means lower flux and cooler discharge.

[@brentonk461]

For around 12grand for one of my built Engines, you could have a Single four barrel carby'd Holden 304/308 based Engine or a Small Block Chev naturally aspirated v8 combination in a factory 5.0L vn-vr will give you an 11second capable, car through a relatively quiet twin 2.5" exhaust to the rear bumper, on d.o.t tires, on 15x8rims with the stock 3.07:1 LSD borgwarner diff. No turbo, No blower, No nitrous.

[@reesekelly6158]

Have you thought about widening the intake and charger piping? My m90 is on a 304 and was also struggling to keep up with supply at high rpm, I ended up getting a 90mm throttlebody and routering out the Aly to equal around the same airflow as a 90mm throttle body, helped it keep up! I guess then the carnage problem will be all the piping to intercooler, unless you use the under charger mount one

[@danielstorer1826]

Cornfed boost in Qld has got some crazy horsepower out of his VT something like 800+ give that guy a watch

[@5lcalais1]

Check out jetv6 ,he's gone 1180 👌 on a 4.2 stroker though, corn fed still stock crank n capacity, it's actually been in the 900s 👌

[@danielstorer1826]

@@5lcalais1 I have seen that car is off

[@5lcalais1]

@@danielstorer1826 yeah it's pretty wild, dream setup on the engine 👌 wanna build a similar one but with a g42 1450 turbo hanging off it and go hunting for low 8s 👌🤣

[@5lcalais1]

And add in say u wanna go a t400 instead of the 4l60 it'll need to built so there's another 3/4k or even a t56 is 5k+ just for a box 😳 Gets me motivated to finish my turbo v6 vn (still rocking the s1 buick) and maybe possibly take on the supermang one day 🤣 It's just a standard rebuild with arp head studs and a gt3582r turbo on a tony'z turbo garage turbo kit through a t5, aiming for around 400bhp 🤞 It's around 95% finished but that last 5% is kicking my butt, just need to sort out my oil feed (The one I had was wrong) a breather setup, a tune, and an exhaust and she'll be good to race 👌 It was gonna be a street car but engineering in Vic is a joke, looking at around 4k+ to go through it. So kinda wanna go full race car, looking at a pulsar g42 1450 to slap on the front of a built eco , glide, tubs, etc. Goal of 1000bhp to start with and go for mid 8s 🤔👌 Would be cool to go 7s one day in v6 Commodore, wishful thinking I know and bloody expensive but it would be cool.

[@brentonevans5643]

The blower elbow and inlet are a massive restriction. Perhaps with the 2.55" pulley on it cant get enough air into the blower? Perhaps try porting the blower elbow or contacting brushworks for one of theirs and adding a bigger throttle body?

[@brentonevans5643]

Also the barrel cooler is going to be restrictive as well. Needs a bigger intercooler

[@kippen64]

The budget rundown was interesting and helpful.

[@brendannunya77]

Great video as usual Scotty.

[@wilwilson8146]

my theory: a seagull has been sucked into the intake leading to less boost... should be able to lure him out with a hot chip 👍

[@BeeskneesBen]

I'm in NZ with a L67 VS Calais running a smaller XP or Stage 2 cam, minor head work, Ported Gen V blower with 85mm intake, 3.2" or 81mm blower pulley, AEM water/meth goes good. My 2c would be a modified blower and proper W2A setup for Supermang for us veiwers or go the turbo.. or do a twin charged Scotty I dare ya

[@adamwarner4590]

Great episode thanks

[@PovLs3HsvNightDrives]

Love that you kept it supercharged and played around with it like that, that's why I religiously watch supermang videos, and I'd love to see you push it as far as you can supercharged before going turbo/stroked. Maybe use a different blower etc.

[@delcowizzid]

You need to get rid if the little barrel intercooler if you work out the flow area of the tubes through it it's way smaller than your 3in pipes can flow a bigger one with enough flow area to match the cooler pipes will cool better and flow heaps more air you want air temp lower than mid 40 degrees and below the lower the better but after 45 odd degrees you are losing a lot of power

[@BlownCommodores]

Belt slip? With a 2.55 pulley you need to do the 8pk belt upgrade and you need to add a support pulley under the snout to increase belt wrap around the supercharger pulley. Would be good to see what sort of timing it's running, something doesn't seem right.

[@michael4402]

I know it would be difficult to do, but I’d put in test points across the heat exchanger and see how much pressure you’re loosing across it at high rpm (when engine is using max amount of air). Might need to get a different heat exchanger in or put two in parallel to compensate for pressure loss

[@benni727]

show minjie how a v6 is better than a ls.

[@chappo4845]

Thanks for the summary Doc!

[@wiggstheking5419]

Hey Scotty awesome videos. I would love to see twin charger.. Turbo into the supercharger. That will make the supercharger more efficient with boost and carry the boost further through the rpm range.. Similar to richos customs au falcon.. Superchargers loose efficiency at high rpm and most of the time becomea a restriction also at high rpm and that's when the turbo should show its true colors.. You should be able use the sane setup just a turbo and manifolds

[@wiggstheking5419]

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[@grantlister]

Hey Scotty, Maybe you could try a RAM Air Induction first, If it’s starving for air? (Even If you put a larger belt drive on later, it won’t hurt! 😂) Much enjoyed the show & from memory Cooper Bogetti approximated USD$20k for his LS to SN Mustang conversion. Kia Kaha, Grant from NZ.

[@gregmyatt9932]

You may be getting belt slip, You did mention you had a coolant leak in last video. Its surprising how far coolant can travel when its blown around as a mist. Maybe try some of that belt grip spray you can spray on.

[@mrcasperjensen]

Centrifugal supercharger please.. ignore I’ve said it already haha. But seriously.. Imagine the fun.. roots , centrifugal supercharger and then turbo.. Scotty likes fun… Scotty agrees with casper 😆😆😆

[@7071t6]

plus labour is you had to pay someone to do it all add a extra 5 k easy Scotty mate, so around 20K all up? for a car which does 12.74 @ 105 miles per hour hum lets see, you already have the engine mods ,put a turbo in it and i bet she will have around 350 to 400 hp easy, yet cost less all up is mo? Plus the engine o should i say the supercharger is running of the crank ,where as the turbo is running only through the exhaust gases, thus free power all you need to do is cool the air as much as possible?

[@7071t6]

As far as air temps and air density, there's a direct connection with HP, the intake temps the colder the air the more power, i would wager, that the intercooler is doing its work, but the amount of air based on the piping is where the charger puller is over working, meaning its trying to suck air and push that air ,but cant keep up under load, you should change the diameter of the tubing going to the intake side of things and also check out gale banks in the USA , he has done so many things with air density mapping and directly into the intake side of things, so no point cooling the air if the intake side of things that air goes in hotter than the air outside, like you did with your own hands at the intake the piping was very hot, yet the piping coming back from the ice water was freezing, that's what i think is wrong with the set up, 63 c degrees air temp is hotter than the outside air, plus at the dyno cell, they have a massive fan to force air to cool everything to a point and at the drags you do not have massive cold air forced at the front of the engine?

[@MAMBOYS-mv2te]

Because it goes MANG MANG MANG

[@FuManchu5ltr]

Scotty’n’tuned in the thumbnail.

[@danielbrown7077]

This is a tricky one! Gale Banks (Banks performance) has awesome content about intake temps and air temp density's to HP Loss. well worth a look! and to me is the BEST on YT... keep up the awesome work!

[@davidbarnsley8486]

You said about taking some weight out of the back I don’t want to be rood but I would be genuinely interested to see if you can get a smaller driver as well and loose 60 or 80 kg out of the front You know less weight equals more speed just saying and I’m no stick man myself so I’m not volunteering to drive because it still would be a weight disadvantage My only other thing I wasn’t sure about was the inter cooling pipes how big they are I did think they were too big for the size of the supercharger I’m no engineer so just guessing so in all I think you did great 👍👍

[@hec22]

Up the SUPERMANG 🤙

[@rodgiecobbadventures9727]

Cost me 15,000 to get a forged ls1 built in the backyard by a mate on the cheap. 12,000 to buy a th400 then get built for 1500hp+ with transbrake, another 2500 for flex plate and billet torque converter, 3,000 for mace coilovers. Still need to get custom tailshaft, loom and few other bits and bobs to get it back on the road and dyno, hoping for 500rwhp+ n/a when i make it to the dyno but we shall see

[@chadlantry858]

Hey mate enjoying your videos.I was chasing some further info on Michael marks vs ss commodore turbo install under the guard.You did a write up in may 2016. Any info or pics would be appreciated if possible or who done the work. Cheers

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Check the Street Machine website

[@RKGarage]

Once you are turboed, hit me up for a friendly drag battle, Auto vs Manual turbo mangs! I'll ship my car over 👌👌👌👌 Supermang Vs Ecojet

[@jrbuch]

I think the fact you fitted an L67 is what has interested me in this build. LS/Barra would be boring, despite being fast. The M90 is the car's biggest weakness currently, they're just heat pumps and not efficient enough. As I keep saying, I bet you're happy you bought when you did. 4k (And even then some people thought you overpaid)... I feel really sorry for anyone wanting to buy a new car/project car nowadays. So, once you turbo this thing, I want to see a head to head vs the Trolvo. I still know which car I think will be faster, but both being red, rear-wheel drive and turbo 6's is pretty cool.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

The Trolvo is a whole other beast, it runs rings around Supermang

[@ESISTTIGER]

Keep the 15's but instead of 205/65/r15 change em to 225/55/r15 smaller diameter tire will reduce top speed a small bit in each gear but will increase acceleration a noticeable amount Also means less load on the engine

[@SF-racing1]

Scotty chuck a nice little stall convertor in the box nice 3000 rpm one through dominator Melbourne will drop your 60ft more and go harder all my autos run stallys and drop time off at the drags cheers

[@jeremysuric]

test it, you have the sandwich plate and the ported blower. Try individually blower first and see what you get. Data talks BS walks

[@GlennosMetals]

Shop in Queensland you not fooling me with any price you say.. you 2200 for my vn rebuild in 14 days

[@martyandbrookeobryan4942]

Brus, 15k is fuck all!! What a beast! Can’t wait to meet you Cobba. Red Centre Nats I hope 🤞

[@ceegee3664]

Plan B:- 1986 VL 3.0 Turbo Straight 6 Set a benchmark for a V6 VNPRT To better

[@BrickNewton]

Why do the V6? Last time I was at the wreckers there were plenty still in cars for only a few hundred bucks. Never see any V8s let alone LS's there for sale. And easier to package into the car vs a Barra.

[@TaunusMicha]

Did you even listen to Scotty? He told why in the first minutes.

[@BrickNewton]

@@TaunusMicha my comment was to back up Scotty, as there will still be people saying you still should have put xxxx engine in it. The engines are cheap and still relatively easy to get.

[@5lcalais1]

U can pick up ecotecs for 100$ still or less ,l67s are getting up there though, cheapest I've seen is 1500 n I've seen em up to 3k. Could probably find cheaper if u look hard enough 👍

[@TaunusMicha]

@@BrickNewton Oh, sorry. Didn't get that.

[@Low760]

The piping is huge, but the outlet/inlet and intercooler run 3" piping, for the flow of the supercharger, 2.5" would probably work a lot better for keeping the charger in efficiency?

[@GlennosMetals]

You are joking the car is a mess ..why why and my 3.8 dose 0.to 100.km h in 6.6second with 5 people in it

[@stinkfinger1942]

Larger pully with the current setup is the next best logical step for sure. I love Supermang but MindieJ's Vn destroys underwear 8 days a week 😏

[@MindieJ]

😂😂😂 super close in current 1/4 times at the moment

[@stinkfinger1942]

@@MindieJ Have you run the new setup? 😲 Hope the trip's treating ya well mate 🍻

[@MindieJ]

@@stinkfinger1942 nope not even tuned yet

[@stinkfinger1942]

@@MindieJ Money's on you then, Bud. More than just times for me though, that thing's just lovely, looking forward to seeing how the "corrections" perform, set of venetians and she'll be creating puddles left, right and center 🤭

[@callumtrapski6096]

You could try logging the pressure before and after the cooler. The drop in pressure may be due to the cooler - higher flow = higher dP

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Interesting thought

[@manuelstarr3602]

How would it be if you spent this amount of money on an old 186..? Cheers mate 🍺🍺

[@-DEATHSTROKE]

Remove the m90, Ecotec plenum, turbo it, it will eat 😍

[@adrianvadeiso2145]

Love to see the comparison with mindieJ vn with the Ls1 would be interesting to see the difference

[@osi9567]

Everyone needs to subscribe MindieJ, absolute legend and awesome channel!

[@MrSamlyle]

And the LS HG wagon was only 0.2 seconds quicker..

[@Liam-wx7cm]

love the vids scotty boi but can we fix the headlights. send us your address

[@danielveldman4690]

sounds like you need to consult with baz from brushworx!!

[@justincanny9594]

LOL i'll run you in boosted V6 buick vn !!! manual 6 speed

[@sninstall]

My l67 has 83mm pulley. Seems to have a lot off the line but definitely falls over in the top end. Think the m90 just runs out of puff up high.

[@BLKKND]

Just to keep with the whole point of difference vibe... why not feed the blower with a turbo?

[@edwardmolloy7548]

Wish it was a $500 L67 in NZ! Try $2500 for one!!😭 I'd have a L67 in my VY holden a long time ago if it was $500. Love following Supermang ❤️

[@adamloader9534]

Excited for more call outs 😛 We are looking forward to the race between these two modified VN’s

[@GlennosMetals]

Do.v8 supercars do mass burnouts before they start

[@kermitmotorsports6682]

Love it Scotty

[@nickannand3367]

Would love to see this against mindiej! His is so neat though

[@Kneedragon1962]

17 minutes ~ I'm thinking your problem here is the intercooler core, heat exchanger. I must add, I'm out of my depth, but... I think you need a bigger core in it. Or, a whole different approach, like turbo + normal front-mount big air-air cooler. I think that cooler core is too small. Specifically, I think the air piping through it is too small. It needs more pipes, of a larger cross-section. More water pipes that are larger probably wouldn't do any harm either ~ But there's too few air pipes and they're too small. Resistance to flow builds at the square of air-speed, which is perfectly in line with what you're seeing in that pressure-drop. The air is trying to get through those little holes at 300 km/h ... and [shrug] Air is a viscous fluid, in the same way auto tranny fluid is... If you want to pump it somewhere fast, it helps a lot to give it bigger pipes. Now you are also facing a limit where you want to remove heat, and you want small pipes with lots of wall / surface area, but... with all the surface area in the world, you're still not going to get un-impeded flow at 300 (ish) km/h, through pipes like a drinking-straw or a Biro. The viscosity of the air will fight you.

[@RhysK94]

Well explained Scotty!💪 Just for reference, L67 bottom end with arp rod bolts and a cam has gone 750+ and in the 9's @140mph. Ecotec (L36) has gone 575 with only a cam, ran out of fuel line size but it would of kept going. (This is all at the wheels) If your goal is only 450 on the L67 bottom end it will smash that easily 👌 As always, welcome to hit me up for a chat or advice anytime 👌💪

[@rxcosmo76]

Nice Work Scotty. Well explained and layed out.

[@ceffydriver]

I'd love to see Supermang go up against Jay Duca's 13b powered red VN for giggles. if it was me and my money to waste I would have just dropped a RB25 in it, bolted on the cheapest second hand $500 TD06 25g, 1000cc injectors and E85 and go for 350+rwkw as even a TD05H 18g will get you 340. ;)

[@trojansixone391]

Mace offer a cnc porting service for about $1600.00, for that they port out the LIM, the charger body and port the supercharger elbow by hand, from memory mace say this alone will drop the intake temp by about 40 deg, I'm about to do this myself just waiting on the snout upgrade from Yella Terra with a 71mm pully approx 14-15lbs boost (the factory snout apparently flexes under load with the smaller pully as you need to machine the front of the factory snout to fit the smaller pullys this machining weakens the snout)

[@tony66au]

Watched this Ep a few times (Coz Life) and cost aside an LS Swap in a commodore is kinda Yawn as you mentioned, I'm not a commodore bloke but the L67 build sucked me in and I watched every episode and enjoyed it so the new proper V6 core build will be awesome I feel. Superchargers........ Something different and even the old stuff like the Sprintex kits to the more modern Magnusson stuff just doesn't show up on detailed KZbin builds and if it does then its not in any great detail coz the stuff just "Works" as a bolt on... Cant use an old school GM Blower (2 stroke OE Detroit style) because they sit high and need more pulley and belt so Buh Bye street car but I reckon thats where youd really need to be to get worthwhile boost out of the L67 with a Supercharger and now you are talking big dollars, Big boost and all the issues that come with running a stock block................. This is why Turbo's are way more common, and fun and even with the top shelf hairdryers.... Cheaper by a fair whack. So I reckon SuperMang has a lot of episodes left in her and im going to enjoy every one waiting for the block to split lol #CozCARNAGE

[@ckrahe3605]

Gotta factor in the cost of a new whiteboard marker to the budget too 🤣

[@batchmotorsport]

Need to get Jason to send you some better whiteboard markers.

[@boatsandblowers6913]

When are you going to do a supercharged Barra with a capa kit

[@aidenmartin61]

Have you considered compound charging it with the supercharger still in place..? Run turbo back up and through the charger

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Considered it

[@bobroberts2371]

The ice tank could use some foam board insulation.

[@christophermclean5620]

Biggest problem with NOMANG is the turbo can't spin if it's not bolted up. Loose the SC it's old tec that's just an intake heater. Turbski time Scotty please don't give yourself a brain haemorrhage trying to squeeze another tenth out of that thing how it is.

[@markusftw5138]

Maing-Question? That one killed me.

[@darrenpowell8229]

It’s not something dumb like the bypass valve bleeding boost is it? Boost seems to drop to around that peak 10psi mark, peaks at 12 then starts bleeding again. I have no experience with these things but thought it worth a mention

[@chrissraceporting7055]

Port the heads intake manifold and blower out.

[@burntrubber5689]

You need to add $2 to the cost for a new whiteboard marker 😉

[@Doc_in_the_carpet_truck]

The L67 build is still cheaper than the Shane Warne ceramic bong I saw on ebay during the week check that out!!! Top vid Scotty always good to know the price of stuff and things 👍🍻

[@teamvs_9970]

Hey Scotty, See the video I just uploaded now.. same setup, minus cam, same pulley. 13psi and tons of power now probs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3i5hI2LbMeBjKc Much smaller chiller though.

[@teamvs_9970]

I'm running a 50 mill W2A , the boost curve on the dyno is pretty smooth etc.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Nice work

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

This is your journey Scotty, we're just along for the ride. Sometimes we're going to be right, sometimes we're going to be wrong. It's up to you to steer the ship where you think makes the most sense. Doesn't mean that we won't be yelling at the computer screen and saying WTF!, but ultimately this is your journey and we are the passengers along for the ride. We are going to watch regardless because it is not about how much hp you make or how fast you go. It is about being on the journey with you and being entertained. As you rightly say it is a KZbin channel and often people lose sight of that. If we wanted to watch ultimate builds where people pee in your pocket and make made up and wild claims about hp and edit out their mistakes there are oodles of them on KZbin. What makes you channel unique is that you're real, and don't need to prove anything to us only to yourself.

[@Clemohunt]

Intercooler restriction would be my guess

[@matt.ja90]

Hey Scotty, I have a couple of ideas on this (maybe rookie ideas so bear with me) With lower inlet temps, boost measurement (restriction) becomes greater with higher air density. Therefore, the engine still receives practically the same volume of air as the cause of the restriction has not changed. In this case, I think the supercharger itself is the restriction as when you spin the blower faster, the swept volume of the rotor is greater per cylinder cycle and creates less opportunity for airspace to fill (101 volumetric efficiency I guess) I think you should find a good gain with spinning the blower slower as the restriction will be less (trying to cram less volume of air into space in the supercharger already occupied by the rotor), and allowing the denser air to do its work. If I haven't ballsed something up, the colder you can get the inlet air, you can continue to spin the charger slower for the same volume of air (air density) Could another set of injectors be installed higher up the intake to allow the fuel to draw further heat from the charge air into the cylinder? Could an alternative fuel be an option eg. Methanol or similar with a faster / low temp flame front? I'm ready for the "you have no idea" comments... 😂 In regards to the 5k difference... I know LS is common but for 5k more you're deep into the 11s, I would suspect 5k may still get you into the 11s with the V6 but it isn't as straightforward either... I'm a Ford man but I'm glad you're doing something a bit different! Just wish you could change the sound of the V6 though...

[@markhoey]

Please remember tuning and dyno costs too Scotty, it’s something that always seems get overlooked when mentioning build cost but always a cost the average Joe still has to pay for when modifying. Keep on keeping on with it and look forward to when the snail goes on and you can really stretch its legs…..