Streets of Rage 5 Exists! *KINDA* 😲 BUT IT'S AWFUL!

[@Lord_Deimos]

I have never met anyone who didn't enjoy Fighting Force back in the day.

[@Chaz4543]

Its very cheap and hard. Its more fun with the invincibility code. The best part is the multiple paths so you have to play through the game 3 times to see all the levels. Decent replay value.

[@Gamesta100]

The only people I knew that knew about the game only knew about it because of me lol

[@DanBrownPierces]

I absolutely loved Fighting Force 1 and loved playing as Smasher, since he could pick up and throw cars. When reviews for 2 came out and I read that it had no multiplayer and less emphasis on brawling, I decided against getting it and have still never played it

[@willh7352]

same.

[@TheBeird]

Die Hard Arcade was the immediate successor to Streets of Rage. Well, Dynamite Cop really.

[@devingiles6597]

Top Hat Gaming Man, you should do a review of Battle Circuit in a future video. It was Capcom's last beat 'em up game for the Arcade and it only released in Japan and Europe.

[@AsherX9]

Thankfully it was finally ported to NA via the Beat em Up Bundle

[@BoozeAholic]

It's an awesome game. I have the 3rd highest score in Battle Circuit for Capcom Arcade Stadium.

[@wrekman1]

I always heard the story of how SOR nearly had the fighting force facelift and I am so happy that never became a reality. Thank you for the details.

[@-M-2]

I prefer them as separate games but still loved fighting force but streets of rage is a lot better especially streets of rage remake but fighting force was different because it was 3d and I liked it because it was different and it had new ways to fight & like remake it had guns and had destructible environments and you could choose you're route like in SofR remake so without fighting force there might have not have been a remake

[@TheDrunkardHu]

Looks like it's getting that facelift after all! :D

[@GMUACW]

I enjoyed Fighting Force 64! It has things I wish more games of this genre had: The ability to attack opponents while they're down; and lots of weapons.

[@dwightphillips7578]

Virtua fighter and Tekken still got it

[@7thirtyakathamortician993]

I thought it was a clone,played it on playstation.Didnt like the combat system.

[@BoozeAholic]

Final Vendetta lets you stomp on grounded opponents.

[@TheOldest]

Completely forgot about Fighting Force LOL, never played it but remember seeing it advertised in magazines.

[@iliaPayne]

I would kill for a Fighting Force 3 game. There's just not enough 3D beat em ups out there :(((

[@justin188541]

I'm very much enjoying the efforts of both you and your sweet lady (Decade). Looking forward to seeing your takes on the new Street Fighter and Tekken games. Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!!!

[@deathcold_longplaysua4846]

I don't care what anyone says. Fighting Force is a cool game. My only problem with it these days is that, you can't force it to work properly on modern systems. And i mean on Windows. Like, i'm on Windows 7 and this game either doesn't work at all, or work but always crashes after some time. Thus, the only way to play it would be via PS1 emulator. If only someone could fix it and force it work properly on modern systems, so that you can play the game without using any emulation.

[@GryphonICD]

"Awful" is a very subjective term in conjunction with Fighting Force. I rather enjoyed it for what it was on the PS1.

[@amk8411]

Same. I had the PC version.

[@Psmgamer]

Fighting Force was definitely a favorite of mine and my younger brother growing up. We would always play it together and just try the different paths that you could choose from.

[@pilot8220]

You know Sega kinda had it's Streets of Rage successor with Die Hard Arcade, which came out before Fighting Force in 1996

[@goranisacson2502]

That's a game I wish he could make an episode of, and one I wish got more attention... one of the earliest examples of QTE's as we know them AND a fun franchise in it's own right, even though I just played it in arcades- never did own a Saturn.

[@lesliegibson5964]

What would be awesome if they released both diehard games with dynamite cop in 1 package with fighting force one

[@pilot8220]

@@lesliegibson5964 Yeah they should

[@X7393]

Don’t forget about the other publisher as well There the fundamental for Techno Rave in video games the PS1-PS3-Psygnosis!

[@niemand7811]

Fact is that when game journalists bemoaned the same-ish appearance of new games when compared to older games, that is exactly what we want. We want games not to change too fast and become something we wouldn't even know whether it is still games or something alien. So still having beat'em ups today is very nice. But I think Sega really took the cake with game series like Shinobi, Streets of Rage and Golden Axe. Arcade style action games are always needed. Games that can be picked up any minuted and enjoyed instantly. I'm still missing real arcade style racing games. That is where developers are lacking behind.

[@Grinder1999X]

I like how they just used axels beta name from the first SOR for FF. Hawk, wolf, and blaze

[@milestrombley1466]

3D beat em up games had a lot o problems back then. I guess they couldn't live up like the classic 2D versions.

[@glndlbro83]

The cancelled game looks a lot like Final Fight: Streetwise.

[@spenserbeckerszs]

I didn’t expect this to turn into a Fighting Force episode but I’m glad it did. In all honesty, I wouldn’t even link the two franchises together like you did Big Daddy Top Hat.. I get that there were talks between companies that fell through and a new franchise was born from the ashes but that happens all the time in gaming. “From a certain point of view” isn’t really applicable here. This type of situation happens for many games/franchises than people realize. This was just one of the many examples that are out there. Having said that, I adore the original Fighting Force game. While it was not as good as Final Fight or Streets of Rage of course but Fighting Force had it’s undieniable charm that kept me playing from start to finish (with the PS1 version of course being the superior port). As for Fighting Force 2, it was one of those games that just by looking at the front (and especially the back) of the box art that you knew you were not in for the same experience as the first game. While I agree that being the case was it & the franchise’s biggest downfall, I do think the sequel (which I own both on PS1 & Dreamcast) is actually not that bad of a game on its own right. Sure, like I said it’s not the same kind of game but it definitely is enjoyable to play through if you just take it for what it is. I do wish more of the original cast was present aside from Hawk but it’s a cute little action adventure game. Gameplay wasn’t as bad as people say and the Dreamcast version runs the smoothest. Like I said, if you take away all the negative press and high expectations that everyone had about Fighting Force 2, then you may find a neat and sort of “not too bad/glad Iplayed it” sort of experience. At least the game is playable and functional right? I did not know there was a Fighting Force 3 in the works & had all that progress behind it. For the time period of the early PS2 days, if finished it may have been what the franchise needed! :) I hope someone, someday finishes it. Would love to play it! Maybe one day! :)

[@tawon1984]

State of Emergency was pretty fun too.

[@bes03c]

I love Fighting Force. I first played it way after its release when looking for games similar to Die Hard Arcade/Dynamite Deka.

[@sunnymammajamma6455]

Have you covered GOD HAND? Would like to see a break down of that title

[@360entertainment2]

I actually ended up with the second one on accident. When I was in high school I found a box for the first one at a mom and pop video game store but when I opened the case it was the second one. My brother and I still had fun with it but we could never figure out how to beat the giant mutant from stage 4, nothing we could do could damage it!

[@Old_Man_Jay]

Man, I remember reading about the supposed "3D streets of rage" back in 99 in an issue of EGM (I think). Of course I was curious but ultimately thought Fighting Force was a joke after it's release when compared to the Streets of Rage games. With that said, I didn't think FF was a completely terrible game. I had some fun with it and judging from the comments below, it seems lots of others enjoyed the game too. I'm glad I didn't play it's sequel though. That just looks like complete ass lol

[@doclouis4236]

So not really a spiritual successor to Streets of Rage when it ditches most of it's beat 'em up elements.

[@shadown5757]

Fighting Force 1 and 2 where really cool games with a nice selection of weaponry, destructive environments and foes 😎🤙

[@niemand7811]

6:09 and that was bothering. Fighting Force was indeed close to the classic 2D beat'em ups, because it was a beat'emup. What did game magazine journalists expect? Another lame Mortal Kombat platformer like Mortal Kombat Mythology or whatever the name of that was? Gaming journalists have always bothered me with their childish expectations and pseudo adult formulations of their otherwise useless opinions.

[@devingiles6597]

Hey, Top Hat Gaming Man. Can you please do a video on the global launch of the Sega Genesis?

[@bubbleguminserts_surprizeguma]

Fighting Force is awesome. Next to God Hand, deserved a remake/remaster/reboot. Definitely a re-

[@wils35]

Hit the thumbs up (like) guys, the least you can do to help big daddy top hat.

[@willh7352]

the simple fact this was almost SOR5 lets you know how big Streets of Rage was back then

[@-M-2]

Fighting force is not awful and bring on fighting force remake or fighting force 3 because I will buy both and already have all the streets of rage games and final fight & other beat em ups like final fight Street wise and I like Street wise.

[@MikeRox83]

Aha! I wondered if this was the game you would be referring to. I really enjoyed the first Fighting Force on PC when it came out. As a result I was hyped for Fighting Force 2, but it is just so... boring. :(

[@jasonbuff8629]

Do a video on "the warriors" that's like the greatest 3D beat em up ever, Rockstar games did a great job on that one

[@gueropalma6649]

Fighting Force 64 is AMAZING and I still play it until this day.

[@shawnganske8731]

I had fighting force 2 on dream cast and I had so much fun with it back in the day

[@PANTYEATR1]

That Streets of Rage 5 game gives me "Fighting Force" and "State of Emergency" game vibes. I own both game copies

[@WorldWithOEnd]

Even Capcom learned that beat em ups need to be multiplayer after Final Fight

[@zohanowens8928]

Final fight was 2 player

[@Unquestionable]

I got my Playstation for Christmas of 97 and the included demo disc had some cool secrets including a Fighting Force demo. Loved replaying that single stage over and over and marveling at how much stuff they packed in (could blow up the car, break it to find hidden weapons, ect) but not to the point of purchasing it. Friend of mine received it as a gift and we ended up playing through it together a few times. The reviews seemed way off to me, it wasn't something incredibly innovative but it wasn't meant to be. It was as solid mindless fun beat up dozens of guys with a buddy sort of game in the vein of practically entire genre.

[@fernie-fernandez]

While veterans of Core look back on Eidos’ handling on Tomb Raider in a negative light, no info on Fighting Force 2’s switch on gameplay ever came out…

[@bouncingbluesoul5270]

Three words - Metal Gear Solid

[@fernie-fernandez]

@@bouncingbluesoul5270 Did they ever admit it through info.?

[@bouncingbluesoul5270]

I've always had the feeling that Core was more influenced by MGS when making FF2.

[@hoseahosanna6700]

1981 man here and still after all this time streets of rage 2 is my all time favorite video game

[@gjergjaurelius9798]

Come to think of it… 5th gen had minimum beat em ups. No wonder I hated the era.

[@IsaacTruck-k3q]

Tip Sega actually didn’t make the game somebody else did

[@illavila4477]

I would never call you "a raving lunatic"... Ok, maybe.... But definitely, not yet

[@kadosho02]

I never played this one, or its sequel. But to know it was once a Streets of Rage game. Hm I see it. But maybe 3D was not the right move to make back then.

[@Old_Man_Jay]

Definitely not in '99 lol.

[@jeremyhall2727]

I enjoyed part 1.. but man. I was shocked when I played part 2. It was a let down

[@derekshropshire2513]

I always thought Fighting Force was a fun game but was a poor man's version of Die Hard the Arcade AKA Dynamite Deka. The Play Station Die Hard game was trash, Sega Saturn definitely had the better game in regards to that franchise.

[@CC-Tron]

Sega's Die Hard Arcade and the sequel Dynamite Cop were much better than the Fighting Force games.

[@el-kiote]

Wouldn't this be sor4 since the 4th didn't come out till 2020?

[@antiseize11]

Fighting Force 1 is sor4 and Fighting Force 2 is sor5. Streets of Rage 4 (2020) would be sor6

[@SAM-ru4vx]

@@antiseize11 I prefer gokido on psx 🤓

[@yagamijubei28]

Fighting force was more like Dynamite Deka than streets of rage.

[@muggo882]

So it would be a failed SoR 4, not 5.

[@antiseize11]

Fighting Force 1 is sor4 and Fighting Force 2 is sor5. Streets of Rage 4 (2020) would be sor6

[@parrishharris3008]

Fighting Force 2 definitely should've had co-op play with 1 or 2 new characters while they somewhat improved the graphics and just maybe the company would of had a series 🤔😤.

[@chrismoore5731]

If Fighting Force II was "single player", it's more of a Final Fight on the SNES clone than a Streets of Rage clone.

[@BluesElwoo2]

Dear Mr. Top Hat Sir, I really love your videos! They are always informative and it is clear you have a deep passion for gaming, as you always go into depth on the topics you cover. However, I would like to offer my opinion that your titles and thumbnails for your videos have become incredibly click baity. Before clicking on this video, I knew there would be some kind of bait and switch when it comes to the subject. I knew that Fighting Force was going to be Streets of Rage 4 and there was a Fighting Force 2, so I figured that it was possible that this was going to talk about FF2. I feel that this was a well made video that was informative, but I always get that somewhat disappointed feeling when, once again, the title was a click baity bait and switch. Just offering that up as my opinion. Keep up the great work!

[@sammyyo461]

Maybe Fighting Force 2 should have been a New IP or rather call it a spin-off rather than a sequel

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

Well Sega announced a new Streets of Rage .

[@AdversaryOne]

Sega made the right call. Fighting Force was terrible from the character design to the gameplay and progression, especially when compared to Streets of Rage.

[@stovepop]

I think with Fighting force 2 they had one eye on Metal Gear

[@DolFunDolhpinVtuber]

Didn't know about this until now.

[@Gamesta100]

It's awesome tbh

[@protox07]

I like your videos

[@SylveonTrapito]

I remember this game being one of the best PS games out there. What happened here? O.o

[@Old_Man_Jay]

I wouldn't say it was one of the best, but the first fighting force was indeed very fun! I wasn't HUGE fan of the game, but do remember enjoying the hell out of it.

[@chadchad33]

How does one expect a fake game to be better than a real game!?!?!.

[@SuperHns]

to me SOR 4 main stream version is kind of MEH, when you compare it to SORR V5.1 on PC

[@CY3ERUS]

You didn't like Fighting Force? Sure it ain't no Double Dragon but it ain't Final Fight Streetwise either.

[@may13th46]

man I love fighting force I just beat it other day it remind me a lot of Die Hard the arcade game

[@niemand7811]

Not really. I was not extatic about SoR4. It looks wrong. Gameplay feels off compared to SoR2 and the soundtrack is nowhere as good. Also the sound effects, despite living in modern days, was not fulfilling at all. Nothing makes sense. You could rename the game, change the main characters looks and nobody would notice a thing.

[@lordadk31]

the canceled dreamcast version is the only true 3d streets of rage and true streets of rage 4. there was rumours of it on megadrive but i think it was confused with the korean exclusive beat them up clone of streets of rage 2 that was done.

[@gjergjaurelius9798]

Fighting force was so fuckin boring! I’d rather play die hard arcade. In fact the closest thing we had to streets of rage 4 around that time is dynamite cops for Dreamcast.

[@robertlawrence9000]

I think you mean Streets of Rage 4. That one is AWFUL!

[@kyleking4028]

Fighting force is greatest game ever how can you say it’s bad it is a fucking masterpiece can’t believe it’s linked to streets of rage

[@Gamesta100]

Masterpiece is a stretch but I've always really liked this game.

[@duskylumine5617]

While far from the best in the beat-em-up genre, "Fighting Force 1", and "Gekido" (a game you should review one day when you get the chance(if you haven't already done so) are the only two 3D beat-em-up games that I got any enjoyment out of from the 5th generation of gaming (even if critically, they were just OK overall).

[@Blit-X-TVLive]

"Let's be 'aving you!"

[@krissymarklewis1793]

I actually thought Fighting force was alright.

[@FirestarHart]

Let’s get it!

[@Shotsoma]

I loved this game

[@DamienRoweArts]

Fighting force was great on ps1.

[@AlphaProto]

Intresting story. I did not like Fighting Force. The stage layout was bad. 3-D brawlers work better when you design the path of the game in trenches, so you don't get lost. The Lord of the Rings games were the best 3-D brawlers I ever played. The only thing that comes close are some Star Wars games, but they were janky.

[@steammachine3061]

Yeah final fight streetwise shows that fighting games don't realy transition well to 3d the one exception seems to be the warrior's although as highly regarded as that game is I personally don't think it's even close to as good as some of the beat 2d best em ups. And I'm realy not one of its fans.

[@morkgin2459]

Well you mean 2d ones converted to 3d right? Because Yakuza, Urban Reign, Godhand and Sifu are already awesome 3d brawlers.

[@GenyaArikado]

sor remake is an amazing fangame

[@mangmerciless9606]

I kind of liked this game.

[@-M-2]

Like other comments below I love fighting force and i still have it and play it & even have the fighting force sequel that I bought a year or 2 ago and fighting force is definitely not a awful streets of rage 5 game and does he not mean original S of R 4 not 5 because if fighting force is 5 then what was 4 and I am guessing die hard 3d or something because another video said one of the die hard games was supposed to be streets of rage 4 or 5 originally & that's why die hard 3d or whatever it was named was a beat em up.

[@taecentro6169]

Wow!

[@KevTheGalaxybender]

Die Hard Arcade is so much better than these

[@growapairandstopwhining6645]

I have it and love it

[@hamedizadishirvan9487]

Click bait much?

[@Mr_LH1980]

SoR4 was crap.

[@BlueApple1987]

Clickbaity title. Nice

[@shirazishfaqmalik]

Clickbait title

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Certainly not misleading though as I wrote *KINDA* as part of it lol.