Stripping down and removing a Gas Fire Baxi Baroque , Precast Flue

[@AllenHart999]

Please be careful with asbestos when dealing with rope seals. www.google.co.uk/search?q=asbestos+awareness&oq=asbesto&aqs=chrome.4.0j69i57j0l4.4822j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[@stuartm4339]

Very satisfied with Gas Fireplace. Nice design works well easy to install. Great value for the price.

[@AllenHart999]

Thank You

[@dickiedubs3137]

Ive only fitted a few fires and I always struggle with how fiddly and inaccessible some of restrictor kits are especially on inset fires. I'm always finding small leaks on the 10mm pipe connection to the restrictor elbow....and you can only get a spammer on them after taking the fire bed out.... Very good video and an example why you should always remove the fire when servicing. Too many just do a spillage check and pass them off....

[@AllenHart999]

Thank You

[@johnboy1232]

This was a very popular fire the angled glass let you see the flame effect even when looking from the side and when on the low setting ,It had a cast iron header that made it more efficient than most of the other flame effect fires but the side glass in particular was prone to cracking if fire run at the high position for any length of time and the glass costs an absolute fortune.

[@SuperBlackguard]

Nice one Allen I've one of these to take out and then reboard/plaster....it's gas Safe so should be straightforward

[@Pro-nj4uu]

Hate precast flues. Thought it might be good to point out to any newbies if servicing that the connections in loft must be checked. Also if servicing any Baxi baroque, vp3, GF, LFE etc etc the heat ex must be checked for blockage as spillage test is carried out after this point and will not pick it up . Safety Alert issued on this also. Good video Alan. Also enjoyed the Baxi 636 u did. Excellent.

[@AllenHart999]

Thank you for your comments,

[@Martindyna]

These fires were designed to burn the gas with a yellowish flame to simulate a solid fuel fire and therefore were inefficient (since the manufacturers thought that that was what the customer wanted). The old Radiation Crystalglow and Radiation Supersaver 70 were far superior imo burning the gas with an all blue flame (with air premixing) and, in the case of the Supersaver 70, imitating an orange / near white hot coke fire (it had ceramic coals resting on the angled normal gas fire radiants). Note the Crystalglow had modulating thermostatic control of the gas valve. Both had the radiants sealed by a glass window for best efficiency.

[@emgee9775]

It’s pronounced ba-rock! Great video though, as many still have has fires in bedrooms, that are still hanging around. A poorly maintained one nearly sent me to sleep forever; luckily I snapped out of it as I’d heard about it in the news. Still very good in living rooms provided they are well maintained and CO monitored. This is key. Sadly, many existing ones are old fashioned and dated, but you can get some beautiful modern ones now. They are lovely to come home to, with a real cosy flame, without the skin drying effect of central heating 🤢

[@k20aa]

I hate gas fires still got mine to take out . Love the retro carpet I had some of that too good work as normal

[@AllenHart999]

Whats wrong with my carpet lol.. Thanks for watching.

[@alexperry3861]

Good stuff Alan bought it back to me why I stopped servicing fires lol. Thanks again a good video as ever👍

[@AllenHart999]

i havent seen one of these for a long time lol. Thanks for watching.

[@toryglen]

What happens to the remaining pipework: Is it just left as is? Or can it be "cut back" ? How should the hole, that leads to the flue be covered up? (I live in a flat, with two other flats above) Our gas fire has never been used in over 5 years, but has a yearly gas inspection. (Seems pointless to keep it: Would like to install a wall mounted TV) Would welcome you thoughts.

[@elaineclare2161]

About to buy a house with an old gas fire we want removing, just wondering what happens with the pipes on the floor, will gas man remove these so we can have an open fire\ eventually put a log burner in? Thanks!

[@brianharriss4366]

Evening Allen. Got roped into repairing a potterton housewarmer bbu a while ago, that was definitely old school, reminded me of the fire in your video. The joys of plumbing...... keep up the good work!

[@AllenHart999]

I haven't done a BBU for a long time, Thanks for watching. 👍

[@ZahadaSafdar]

Hi Allen, I have the same fire as you and the gas has been capped off a few years ago when I got new central heating system fitted.How would we block the chimney and do we need a air flow vent? I’m I right in saying I won’t be needing a gas safe engineer to remove this fire as it’s already capped off and mine also plugs in for power supply.

[@robbob88]

Just saw this vid Allen and I have got to say be careful when working on the Baxi Baroque Super as it contains Refractory Ceramic Fibres (R.C.F.) . The M.I.'s list the problems associated with it and how to work safely with the unit. We have a couple of them at work (tenant's own with back boiler behind) and we have capped them off and just service the bbu.

[@AllenHart999]

Thank you.

[@asam371]

Stupid question but have two gas fires in home and would like to replace with old wood burning fires is that a viable option?

[@ktoffelmire1]

We are interested in having our gas fireplace completely removed. We will be reconstructing the whole wall that the fireplace is currently located. My concern is the flue. Does the flue need to be torn out in the attic? Do you reconstruct the attic? Cap it?

[@shsa3074]

We have a gas pipe running through to the upstairs bedroom next to the old fireplace. It looks capped but there is no floorboard on top of it to cover it and no joist to screw wood into. What's the best way to cover this? It measures probably around 20cm x 10cm

[@_RAINBOWSHOES_]

Hi, I've asked a Gas Safe guy to remove my gas fire, and board it up. Should I ask him to put the board just inside the gaping hole, along with the air vent, then get a plasterer to skim over it? It's not a nice looking hole, or a uniform shape. Or put the board on the outside of the hole, and have it protrude very slightly from the wall? We're not house-proud types, just can't make my damn mind up either way! 🤔 Thank you, kind sir! 🙂

[@sash9561]

Great vid mate thanks, got mine to take out great idea to use the cavity for tv cabling

[@liefacts3000]

Can you put a wood burning stove in there? Mine still has a little back boiler in there that I was going to cut out.

[@slayersdeath]

Nice same as my fire but mine is the VP because ive got the back boiler. Alan do you service back boiler's and do you love or hate

[@AllenHart999]

I used to like back boilers but to be honest too many things to check and too many customers block the vents. Thanks.

[@Traveling.contess]

Hello the council will remove my gas fire but the won’t remove the tiles sounding it which are brown tiles that looks horrible they refused to remove it due to the coasts of it. It is too expensive they said because it has bricks beneath it and they have to basically breakdown the wall so they rather just remove the gas fire and plaster the open space behind it and leave the tile. Any suggestions?

[@wgenerotzky]

That's really a snazzy little unit.

[@AllenHart999]

Thanks

[@philprivate]

Hi, Allen just been to visit an old guy the only heat he has is a gas fire it has a back boiler the pipes between floors keek springing leaks and he wants them capping off he uses an immersion heater for hot water is it possible without changing the cylinder? Thanks Phil

[@AllenHart999]

Depends on the system buddy. Hard to give advice without seeing it. Sorry.

[@karenrussell2917]

We have just changed our gas fire and we have got a down draft.We didn’t get this before with our other gas fire.

[@AllenHart999]

Thank You

[@soulfabuk]

Great video thanks Allen. I had a gas fire removed and the hole blocked up. It has a precast flue running up the wall into the loft where it ducts out through a metal pipe up to the ridge of the roof. I would also like to use the old flue for running cables but we have a bad damp problem now where cold air is causing condensation to form on the inside of the lounge wall. Do you have any tips for sorting this...i.e. would you fill the old flue blocks or just cap it off in the loft?

[@mynameis9739]

Was there not a safety alert on those fires last year for the ropes to have asbestos on them?

[@mynameis9739]

Technical bulletin 149 posted January 2017

[@Ro55stw]

It’s only asbestos no point in worrying

[@AllenHart999]

@@mynameis9739 I will look that up, Thank you.

[@alanthomas2064]

Why do ppl want to remove their gas fire? A bit chilly in lounge then the fire, otherwise whole system on?

[@cheukinator]

Hi did you replace this fire with one with a balanced flue?

[@jamie10157]

Great video, Allen. I have a gas fire that I want to remove and replace with an electric one. Is there anything I need do after removing the gas one before placing the electric one (e.g. filling the chimney cavity etc)? Thanks

[@AllenHart999]

You will need a gas engineer/plumber to cap and test the gas. They will be able to give you the best advice on the chimney. Thanks.

[@iangoodall2424]

Can an old burner plate stop the fire from turning up heat , cos mine just stays on the lowest flame even though it's on the highest setting?

[@AllenHart999]

Sounds like the gas valve, call out a gas engineer to check it. Thanks for watching.

[@mgbroadsterJ]

I won't fit a gas fire without a liner .I've never like fiting or servicing open flue appliances .

[@patmcg2994]

I want to change my Flavel Regent Gas Fire with a new one , is it just one screw to disconnect where the gas comes in and then reconnect it again?

[@AllenHart999]

You need to call in a gas safe engineer. Fires can be very dangerous if not installed correctly

[@شؤون-عراقية]

Thanks for sharing mate

[@AllenHart999]

Thanks for watching.

[@wgenerotzky]

What an odd way to vent something, to tape metal on the chimney I wouldn't be able to sleep if I did something like that. Good thing you're getting rid of it.

[@AllenHart999]

Thank you for watching

[@TR-wu1eh]

How did you seal the precast flue afterwards? Did you block it off around the cables you said you would run down it for your tv or did you leave it open with an air vent?

[@AllenHart999]

I have just put the metal plate back on for now. I may also use the flue to get pipes up to loft for rads.

[@shadowBanned2023]

Hi Alan great videos!! I was wondering what is the options for having a back boiler from a coal fire and also on the same system having a gas boiler. I know that an open fire should have an open system while a gas boiler needs the system to be sealed. Is there anything that can be done to incorporate both?

[@Candisa]

It's an old comment, but answering anyways for anyone who reads it in the future: You need to work with a buffer tank/bottle with 2 spirals in it: 1 connected to the (open) coal or wood burning boiler loop, 1 connected to the (closed) gas boiler loop. Each loop needs its own pump, expansion vessel, filtering, bleeding... just like it were a big radiator instead of a buffer vessel spiral you're connecting to each boiler, and the gas boiler needs a thermostat that reads the temperature of the water inside the buffer vessel so it can back up when the wood/coal boiler isn't producing (enough) heat without overheating. You then use the buffer vessel to send heat to the radiators, so you need a pump, expansion tank, filtering, bleeding... and use a thermostat with a simple on/off command and a relay to switch the pump.

[@suebabes1]

How do you clean the glass it's full off marks

[@AllenHart999]

Not really sure Sorry.

[@johnboy1232]

I used to use a product called hob brite ,You can buy it in any supermarket,It's original use was to clean ceramic hob tops but it does a great job on fire glass as well without scratching.

[@jjeyyjanaa7274]

How is look like after you finish all

[@BABYCHAOS26]

It's pronounced "Ba-Rock"

[@AllenHart999]

Thanks

[@BABYCHAOS26]

Allen Hart no probs Allen 👍

[@johnwest6348]

Thanks Allen for your excellent , very good and to the point video, full of very useful info. I have a similar Baxi Bermuda GF Super gas fire , this is in front of my central heating back boiler which is in the back of the fireplace , i will soon need to turn my gas mains off for a few hours and will need to reignite the back boiler pilot , do i have to remove the gas fire in front to access the back boiler to do this . I am determined to keep my wonderful and reliable back boiler , it is as efficient as I want and its hot gas’s that go up the chimney , heat the chimney and wall and do a great job, I just need to be able to reignite the back boiler pilot after turning the gas main back on . Thanks . Kris

[@UUAD]

Nice video.

[@stevecraft00]

Are there any seals on that flue? Or is it a metal to metal loose fitting? When we bought our house there were two fires back to back on a chimney. One fire was a majorca with back boiler. This had a flexi metal flue on it which when we removed it only reached halfway up the chimney. Been there 30 years. The other fire was a wall hung fire, which had a rectangular flue which simply sat in a brick shape hole in the front of the chimney. Ye gods.

[@AllenHart999]

It would have tape on. Thanks.

[@brandonhirst7841]

Hi Allen, thoughts on me ordering a boiler man t-shirt?

[@AllenHart999]

not sure i understand what you are saying sorry.

[@shahbazsagar786]

Is it room sealed or open flue? Please correct me

[@cp-cz6ol]

Open flue

[@AllenHart999]

Open flue,

[@sirazsaleh5942]

Gas cooker this does not have flue ? So what do you call this open flue or room sealed. What about gas boiler balance flue is this room sealed or open flue and same for combination boiler ? The reason ask the gas fires the closure plate is sealed and you only have the opening on the top of the roof flue and on gas fire canopy. Combi boiler has the flue vented to outside, but inside boiler is all sealed than I suppose, not like the gas fire , where gas fire on the canopy area it will be open, when you can feel the draft when it windy.

[@BABYCHAOS26]

siraz saleh gas cooker is classed as a flueless appliance, this gas fire is open flued as it obtains its combustion air from the room it's installed, then terminates outside. However you can get room sealed gas fires also. There's tons of videos out there on the subject.

[@sirazsaleh5942]

Vomit Man thanks mate for your reply and information.

[@silentbadshah3493]

Hope you keep up with videos as I love this videos but after so long sometimes you tubers stop making videos n it’s sad

[@AllenHart999]

Thanks

[@dando1898]

Allen’s gone from strength to strength what a man

[@themanftheworld8439]

Hi Allen I have a valor gas fire.It has 3 settings on the dial.When I have turned it up recently from low setting to medium or high setting I've noticed nothing happens as the flame does not become higher.Any idea what the problem is ? Thanks

[@jazplan1871]

Hi. I want to remove and gas fire and replace it with an Electric one. Is it a straight forward task? Can the gas feed be turned off at the fire place aswell as at the meter?

[@guyfrost6492]

What's the average price of having a gas fire capped off. An can I remove it my self if I get the gas line capped off by a gas safe person?

[@Hambini]

I thought you just had to be competent to work on gas.

[@AllenHart999]

You need to be Gas Safe Reg to work on gas in a customers property in the UK, Thanks.

[@frankbennett8877]

Last time I read HSE requirements on working on gas it did say you need to be competent and being Gas safe reg is one way to demonstrate you are competent.

[@DanielCurry1979]

I don't think twice about working on gas. I just get stuck in

[@rayc1503]

@@alexbarn1391 Yes it seems to be so. The minimum qualifications you're supposed to have. If you want to work on your own property are City & guilds or an Acs. I don't think many people don't care though. When it goes tits up they call us in. I've seen some gnarly shit in the 6 years I've been doing this. You'd be pretty peeved if you found out you're neighbours were using speed speedfit fittings on gas pipework. Ticking time-bomb✌

[@veronicahart450]

👍

[@lukedevereux4103]

What a waste of a perfectly good flue, and a focal point, destroyed for a typical big screen tv

[@edwardtrickett1983]

AND? Whatever someone decides for THEIR home is THEIR choice Provided it is safe and legal

[@xFrozenxSnowx]

New houses all come with a gad fireplace in the center of the living room where the TV goes. Its so dumb. Want to rip it out but it'll cost a couple thousand to rip it out and refinish the stripped wall. God why is putting fireplaces in the middle of the living room a trend? Makes no sense

[@alanthomas2064]

All his videos are too quiet!

[@TommySco89]

What's the average price for someone remove something like this Alan and permanently disconnect from the gas?.

[@AllenHart999]

I charge £60 plus vat plus parts. Thanks.

[@JackHC23]

Video starts a 0:06 you're welcome

[@slayersdeath]

dipshit

[@stewandumps]

Nice video thanks. I’m removing the same fire.