STRONGEST Airline of the LUFTHANSA GROUP? | AUSTRIAN Airlines from VIENNA to NEW YORK

[@physicalrc_yt]

The fact that some American guy is the first to tell me about the history of my „home“ airline is honestly something I have to admit-nice vid!

[@ekesandras1481]

yet it hurts when he pronounces Junkers as Dshunkers.

[@zalba5710]

I love that they refused to serve coffee with the meal lol. That’s class!

[@paddybm3245]

Haha, kind of proud they didn’t offer you coffee with the meal. It’s just not done in our culture and just thinking of it gives me the shivers

[@tetsi0815]

13:25 This is wrong. The flying chefs were not introduced last year - they returned(!) in summer 2023 after they have been paused during COVID. If I'm not mistaken the flying chefs were introduced in 2011 at Austrian.

[@Cars-k8e]

Lauda Air introduced the flying chefs 1996…

[@Flauschiger_318]

@@Cars-k8e Ok... His comment did not state in the closest that Austrian was the first to introduce chefs, in fact it was United introducing them in 1936 if im not mistaken.

[@Cars-k8e]

@flauschiger6298 neither did my comment, I just said that Lauda air introduced the chefs in 1996, so Austrian inherited them 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Flauschiger_318]

@@Cars-k8e Oh damn, sorry must have misunderstood you. Ofc youre rgith by saying that.

[@gazr9972]

Viscount is pronunced VI.COUNT. The S is silent.

[@joeriuffink5033]

The clip is to hold your napkin to your shirt...

[@terryeiss8469]

SAS Business First used to have them as well in the eighties.

[@halitosis75]

Some people are not as refined as you and I 😂😂😂😂

[@geegab5178]

This video on Austria airlines is amazing. I live in Britain and I will be ready to travel by this airline. Lovely…

[@jaymitchell2380]

Great video. I especially appreciate the history of the airline. I first flew Austrian in 1967 from Vienna to Warsaw and have been a devoted fan since. Love the catering, especially out of Vienna!

[@Thatguyjack758]

Flown Austrian both within Europe and most recently transatlantic. Took a vacation to Europe a few months back traversing through the Netherlands (not calling it Holland), Belgium and France. I flew out of Paris back home to Chicago via Vienna and I’m glad I did. Everyone on the first flight was also transiting through Vienna and the flight was quite nice. Great hard and soft product and made it back home safe and sound. 10/10 would fly again.

[@coin5207]

There is no issue with saying Holland if you only went to Holland, as most tourists do. Imagine someone said "I went to the UK, not calling it England" when they went to London

[@Autumnwind021]

Luv to Austria 🇦🇹 and Austrian from Iranian 🇮🇷 from Tehran via Los Angeles. Patrick the beast

[@FlorianWehde]

Great review - as always. But the chef onboard Austrian has been around for 10+ years. It was brought back after covid in April 2023.

[@JB-ie6rz]

Hello Patrick. Great video. It seems there is a misconception about the Chef on Austrian. They did not start in 2023. It startet in 1996 with Lauda Air, and was only suspended due to Covid. As far as i know they where the very first ones with a Chef on board.

[@xr6lad]

100%. Even as an Australian I knew that as I well remember the advertising by Lauda.

[@halitosis75]

I remember the chef on lauda air in 1989 in business from Sydney to Vienna via??

[@paullewis2413]

@@halitosis75 I was told that some airlines had “flying chefs”.in the 1950’s 😊

[@GerronBeadle]

Nice excellent review! I used to like the 767’s a lot until the 777’s came about and developed a true life long love for the triple 7’s. I truly enjoy your history behind the airlines you are flying on / and processes throughout the airport and updates on the countries airport your flying out of.

[@kasnuss]

such a cool and informative video about the airline of my home :)

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Awesome! Thanks!

[@gunvaldsandhaland7757]

Its Over 20 Years Since A Experience B767.Great Video And Info

[@nikserof2183]

✅Thanks Patrick. 7:02 Loving the blue sneakers - hide the dirt better than the white😁

[@Knightedddd]

Austrian is truly one of the very best every day of the week.

[@ljackattack]

Unless they screw up and refuse to pay for damages. Then there is no way to reach them, they are as silent as an airline that has gone bankrupt 10 years ago.

[@christianbayerstein5243]

Very nice flight with very good catering provided by Do&Co, something Lufthansa doesn’t even offer their First Class guests, they replaced the Do&Co catering in their Flagship First Class Terminal in Frankfurt by Käfer catering which is not so good.

[@clausstimpfi4467]

Nein aua hat keine erste klasse mehr. Damals waren die grossartig

[@christianbayerstein5243]

@ hat niemand behauptet, es ging um Lufthansa.

[@konni6694]

Käfer really blows, at this point the FCL at MUC T2K beats the whole damn FCT at FRA

[@badgerattoadhall]

i love the767. it is my favorite transatlantic ride. Junkers is pronounced yoon kers in German, I think

[@scpatl4now]

10:50 am to 2:35 pm isn't the best for your internal clock. Nice to see the 767 while we still can

[@jimmyjames6492]

Thanks for the info + video!

[@jvstcu76]

I appreciate that you give the general history of the airline that you are reviewing. I remember flying Austrian about ten years ago from Washington Dulles to Vienna. It was an evening departure and the chef came around before take-off to ask us if we would like eggs for breakfast and how would we like them prepared. He actually cooked them in the galley in the morning. I was totally impressed and thought what a great idea. My question for you is: is your full-time job in the aviation or the hospitality/travel industry? (or are you lucky enough to be a "trust fund baby"?) 🤣

[@sebastianbaxter3761]

Hi Patrick - next time you get to fly on Austrian or eat in better restaurants in Austria, Hungary and in Slovakia - you may find small clips useful if you wish to fix your napkin to the neckline of your sweatshirt or a jumper, or on a tie if travelling wearing a suit. That way all of your clothing is safely protected from staines caused by spillages or food dropplets. Great video as ever. Happy flying onwards and upwards 👍

[@ISOTT78]

Best food in a Buisness class EVER. I love my austrian airlines as an austrian citizen.

[@EsaRino-g7z]

In my opinion, it surely depends on where you are in Austria. The capital, obviously, is quite.. let’s call it “Austrian airlines friendly”. Decent destination offers, decent schedules, etc. but the further away you get from Vienna and their hub, the worse the offers get. I’m close to innsbruck airport (though tiny.. still international) and let me tell you…every time it’s getting close to “it’s time to visit the homeland and the fam in England”.. finding flights (from Innsbruck) becomes an almost impossible task. Either they have you fly to Frankfurt and continue to Manchester from there, or they only fly to any of the airports in London. It’s almost easier to just take the train to Munich and hop on a direct Lufthansa or easyJet flight to Manchester there. Nowwww, whether or not Salzburg has the same problem isn’t for me to say, because I’ve never been to that airport… or, well.. at least not the new one. Last time I’ve been to Salzburg airport, Lauda air has roamed the skies still lol. Lastly, I wanna recommend an Austrian beer for when you’re here next.. try Stiegl. The one you had on this flight is considered… (to put it as kindly as possible) a homeless persons beer 😂

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Interesting! To be fair, coming from the US, Vienna is kinda the only options unless you want to connect. I'll have to try the other airports next time... and Stiegl!

[@lukim1388]

In my opinion, Austrian Airlines is one of the best European airlines. Their fleet is rather small, which is due to the weak market situation in Vienna. Austrian will soon only operate the 787 on long haul, E195 and A320F on short haul. They are in the process of phasing out all the old 767 and 777.

[@paullewis2413]

I’ve flown Lufthansa and Swiss business class long haul and found Swiss better for overall comfort and service. Haven’t tried Austrian as they don’t serve my usual route. Over the years I’ve experienced many airlines, those that have stood out from the rest are Canadian (now defunct) Qantas (before they declined dramatically) and currently Air France, excellent all round.

[@hupfgugell1522]

Noooo, not the otterkringer, now he thinks thats the benchmark in Austria :(

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Dang... what should I be asking for next time?

[@Felix-rd4ug]

​@@PatrickSheaAviation I realy like Kaiser, Wiselburger and Puntigamer, I don't like Ottakringer, Stiegel and Gösser, funny thing is: Schwechater makes the best Can-beer, Hirter, Murauer and Schladminger are good too

[@hupfgugell1522]

@@Felix-rd4ug agre

[@jk1422]

@@PatrickSheaAviation go for gösser. i was also flying to new york 2 weeks ago and they had ottakringer and gösser. Gösser is a popular and good beer from styria and is way better than this viennese stuff

[@kwinzman]

@@PatrickSheaAviation Wieselburger has my vote. Though I admit I aquired a taste for IPAs over time so I generally don't favor classic Austrian lagers any more.

[@hans8372]

Hey, nice video. Though i would add that the Lufthansa Group also owns Air Dolomiti and Edelweiss Air. There are also rumours that they want to acquire TAP

[@mazchen]

When having the choice of flying BC either with Austrian or Lufthansa it will always be Austrian. Food and service is unparalleled. Looking forward to my flight on the 787 to Washington next week.... At Schwechat airport you can't really compare the old D gates with the facilities at the newer Terminal 3. Leaving from the old gates is a travel back in time as well. You nicely summarized Austrian's history with Lufthansa of the last 20 years: “nationalize losses and privatize profits”

[@ray1213yeung]

I’ve just done a Europe trip US-Europe in LH Business(non-Allegris, as a potential farewell to its B748) and LX Business on the way back. Together with your experiences here I felt any subsidiary airlines of Lufthansa group has better soft product than LH itself at this point. This being said I will give Allegris a try soon.. hopefully it will refresh the Business cabin experiences for LH.

[@konni6694]

Do you mean hard product because the LH soft product is clearly better than LX (very inconsistent, biz food can be absolutely vile and service tends to be quite fuzzy around the edges)? OS is definitely ahead but on a day flight I would definitely chose LH over LX

[@Dom-cq8pw]

To my knowledge the lounges at vienna airport are a mess right now due to the ongoing constructions - the old lounge was outdated and was in desperate need of renovation. The new lounge will be built in the newly constructed part of the airport and the lounges currently existing are their solution to bridge the time. Kind of a lousy solution in my opinion considering that construction will likely take multiple years. Also all of Austrians longhaul flights used to depart from the F/G Gates. I am not entirely sure if the change was made due to covid or due to the ongoing constructions on the airport as the most frequently used Gates before the construction like F1 or F3 don't exist anymore or at least are currently not in use.

[@wicked_smaaht]

Austrian’s entertainment system looks exactly like the Lufthansa’s on their A340s, which I am flying on now, as I am watching your video. Corporate sharing, I guess.

[@harshilpatel684]

19:53 why is brussels airlines not a full service carrier like the other 3? My experiences in their business and economy cabins have both been top notch? I know their route network is less premium but they dominate in Africa. They give nice chocolate boxes at the end of their flights.

[@RH-wl8bh]

Correct..BrusselsAirlines is a full...there were plans to put them under EW...but did not happen.

[@chiaraog5476]

Do&Co is also local Vienna restaurant upper class near city center!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Interesting! I didn't know that!

[@Conneticat_yt]

10:44 omg. u wont believe it. this is the exact same plane i flew on in my first flight.

[@FalconX88]

The problem with Austria are the terrible old planes with super outdated seats (like much of Lufthansa group). Sure, Business is fine, but in economy you got no power, no wifi, and food is not great. Also for the lounge, most Austrian flights leave from Terminal 3, there's a much bigger lounge there. I think because of the construction some of the 767 and 787 flights starts from D gates.

[@beaveravaition7773]

Nice job man!

[@botruong4102]

Thank you Patrick and happy holiday.

[@realman6ft6]

Looks like a decent flight. The seat looks the same as the one American had on their 767s. I last flew on one in Domestic First from JFK to MIA 8 years ago.

[@wotan10950]

Great video! Ok, I just booked an Austrian roundtrip from Newark to Vienna, Premium Economy, 777-200. A couple of questions if you have a chance to respond: 1. Is it easy to use the railroad from the airport to the city? I’m staying at the Grand Hotel Wien, which is next to the State Opera House. Or is it better to just take a taxi? 2. You mentioned the security confusion at Vienna Airport for flights to the States. What should I be aware of? I usually leave myself three hours. I’ve also gone through airport security in Israel, so the process doesn’t bother me. Thanks, new subscriber

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Train was super simple, although unless I was missing something it’s just the one line that goes to the airport so you might have to make a train connection. For security, it’s just that you have to go through the specific security for your concourse of gates (even though it’s all connected after security

[@davidibarra6730]

Nice review, hopefully you had time to enjoy Christmas Markets. Questions for end of year: a) Believe you said you have an FT job, so how do you make the time; b) How much time you plan for when you travel to do these videos. Not a question, but would be good to have "after flight" video getting to hotel, hotel,etc.

[@clausstimpfi4467]

They used to be great when they offered a first class cabin. Only average. Look forward to air france new first class in march 2025

[@adonislewis909]

Are you learning Spanish at the moment? I thought about changing my phone over to force me to learn, but I’ve been too scared 😂

[@dcolemanbuffalony]

Junkers is pronounced like Yoonkers

[@SagaSato]

How about this question for your Year End Video Patrick For your next videos next year when you fly abroad please leave the US on that airline rather that flying back to the US with that airline I know it a pet peeve of mines

[@coolbreeze253]

Try to work on that pronunciation of Junkers...says the guy from Munich.

[@Shamrock100]

Also "Viss-count" - ?? Surprising error for someone with a good aviation knowledge.

[@JUVI9596]

Yunkers

[@blinzi69]

there gonna be new business seats soon - they are much better!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

That would be great to see. To be fair, this is one of their oldest aircraft

[@zw8984]

19:10 is that cracks in the wing?

[@NautilusShell-s2o]

Junkers, pronounced 'younkers' and Viscount pronounced 'vi-count'. ;-)

[@creativemindplay]

9:09 all-stars 😍

[@TheFanMan2009-q2t]

ITA Airways is Also part of the Lufthansa group

[@mobilitymix5896]

Great review. I am a fan of Austrian. FYI, the chef was reintroduced last year. This existed pre-COVID.

[@justd2K]

@9:20 you can see me tanking the Ryanair 737 :P

[@VikramSeshadri77]

As always, a great video Patrick and lots of very informative narration. Thank you. One small thing..... Junkers is pronounced yoon kers in German, I think........

[@Karamarie.]

at 7:57 you see the only real option flying from vienna!

[@k9killer221]

I think you solved a mystery for me: Lufthansa were/are buying just about every plane type out there, Airbus and Boeing. Lufthansa are centrally buying the planes then parcelling them out to all the different airlines in the group as befits the specific airline mission.

[@Nobi36]

Patrick, please try AF208 if you're planning to visit SEA. I'd love to see the experience of the one direct EU Flight to Manila, it's also operating in and out of Terminal 3 of NAIA. Maybe itll be a redemption for our airport as New Manila Intl is still underway 😂

[@annmarywamaya5025]

Please what's was your favourite place to visit? What your favourite plane food? What was your favourite lounge food, what was your favourite airport? What was your favourite flight ever?

[@olegremizov]

Great video! thanks for sharing. Didn't§ know that OS has 787

[@mazchen]

They have two now since earlier this year. One is operating NYC, the other one did Chicago until November and is now doing Washington. More to come next year.

[@wotan10950]

@@mazchenI wonder if they’re flying the 787 to JFK or Newark. I have a reservation from Newark to Vienna in May, but it’s listed as 777-200.

[@mazchen]

@wotan10950 in May it will be JFK only

[@wotan10950]

@@mazchenThanks for the information. The 777 is fine with me, although I do prefer the 787. I flew on my very first 350 a few months ago, but I was disappointed. The 787 seemed way quieter (I sat in basically the same spot), and also seemed to handle turbulence better, perhaps because of the more flexible wing.

[@MrTomcat104]

How long does Austrian plan to keep their 767s?

[@axelwochinger91]

They will be removed end of 2025 after phasing in of another three 787s.

[@rachel5273]

What was your favourite city you visited in 2024? Why?

[@jonathanscott550]

Don't understand when an airline has a Chef. The Chef doesn't cook onboard the aircraft as all food cooked and cold sandwiches are premade from airport catering companies. So what does this chef do place the food items on their plates?

[@flyFirst100]

Viscount is pronounced ‘v.eye.count’ the ‘ess’ is silent.

[@neilhaas]

Austrian & Lufthansa, Ryan Air, Wizzair & Lauda all the carriers

[@bodyloverz30]

In 2011 when I flew LOT, they were part of Lufthansa Group.

[@Michael-ru3rt]

LOT has never been owned by Lufthansa. They joined the Star Alliance in 2003 and are thus a partner of Lufthansa but have always been owned by the Polish State.

[@bodyloverz30]

@@Michael-ru3rt They were part of "Miles & More."

[@patrickdevonish6833]

How about this question for your end of year video, Are you going to fly to the Caribbean from the US or Europe anytime next year, and where?

[@theotah]

I wonder, would they offer vegan/ vegetarian and non alcoholic options that don’t sacrifice in quality, compared to their meaty and alcoholic counterparts?

[@kevin19358]

Yeah it's a bummer that Austrian doesn't fly to San Francisco, only Los Angeles, that's so weird, it flies seasonally. Same for Finair, Latam and Polish airlines, they don't fly to San Francisco, only Los Angeles, so weird, but yearly.

[@michaelj3282]

Hi Patrick, great video, 767s, take me back. I have a request, can you fly into Khasab airport (top of Mussandam Penninsula just 30 miles from Iran - but you're still in Oman), flights are just from Muscat, it's a short flight but the departure and arrival views are amazing. Also no-one has covered it on YT that I can see).

[@pablopostigoolsson5233]

Interesting to know that process airlines falls under low cost for the group. Should be said, however, did they keep some quite unique legacy routes with the Africa due to their colonial past. Sometimes they are the only airline in the group to fly there. For example, to Freetown in Sierra Leone.

[@paulmoeller5220]

Junkers is pronounced Yunkers

[@the.lqst.timeৎ]

If you have a flight that spans 2-3 hours you won’t get this great of a seat, it’s technically just a economy seat with a little more legroom, not worth it.

[@runningrauster8971]

The little clip is meant to clip your napkin to your shirt.

[@Ben-xe8ps]

That meal did not impress. The menu offers a choice of Lettuce (could hardly believe they offered 'Lettuce' as a course rather than some sort of more complete salad) OR Smoked Salmon, and Soup listed as a separate course (no OR on the menu) but it appears that the crew put all 3 items on the trolley therefore making the soup an OR item rather than a separate course as the menu would imply. Then the second service. A drink as one of the courses(!) followed by a choice of pork or pork. (The type of sausage is not specified - not good - but almost certainly pork and the salad contained ham). The type of meat in the sausage should have been stated and there should not have been the same type of meat for both of the choices.

[@tcai5341]

Surprised you didn’t seek out their new 787s! 767s are still nice though :)

[@creativemindplay]

He said those aircraft were being deployed on much more expensive flights

[@ScottMatthews-gk8ef]

What is it with airlines forcing the window shades or blinds shut so that fare paying passengers are forced to travel in sensory deprived misery?!

[@kain0m]

It is done to reduce jetlag.

[@ScottMatthews-gk8ef]

@ I don’t think it quite works like that… 🤔

[@wilba1964]

European business lounges are far superior to what's on offer in the usa

[@philipppacifico]

As an austrian its so sad the corrupt politicans sell our national airline Now we are a part from Lufthansa which is really not that great !! our airplanes are old the cabins are so so .. ,and the destinations are little bit boring because our shit corrupt politics

[@mvb7503]

in terms of profitability lufthansa is terrible, swiss a pearl!

[@Cepheus77]

Actually you are not allowed here to film strangers and post them in a video.

[@easycake3251]

I cant really speak on all the Austrian Airplanes. But for Business Class they are charging 4k+, for what ? Ancient airplane with basic additions for Business where the main perk is being able to fit your legs ? Ok, Air Serbia has much newer planes and charges 2k. Now im not saying its better in every regard, but the juice aint work the squeeze here. Wanted to say, AUA still has high quality planes with very good maintenance and standards. So I am not saying they are bad in any way. They just need to provide more for the asking price. And who ever decided that the crew should be full red, really has no sense of fashion.

[@WarlockofSF]

That's one of the Euro airlines that I have tried. BTW are you still teaching?

[@da480]

I find it a bit amusing that a country with 31m non EU tourists and heaps to see and to do all year around cannot sustain an airline larger in size. TAP captures by far more non EU travellers to Portugal with fewer non EU passenger stats 25m) than Austrian to Austria and it is not even as popular in winter months as Austria. I think, being in LH group actually hurts Austrian in a long run, not helps.

[@boatMatthias]

TAP serves a big number of portugese islands and former colony destinations. We Austrians have neither and the European city trips are lost to the low cost carriers.

[@cameraman655]

“Junkers” That made me 😂 per the mispronunciation. It’s pronounced…”unkers”.

[@nmpls]

Also, the s is silent in "viscount." vI-count.

[@ownageDan]

yoonkers

[@thetre2]

bro stole the thumbnail from areonewsgermany

[@matthewmic12345]

Lufthansa has ruined Austrian. Service was first class before entering LH group. Today it's just a cheap fare carrier without free water on some flights. Sad how LH has run down one of the best Airlines in terms of hospitality and services

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Interesting. I honestly feel like Austrian is still the best airline in the Lufthansa Group, but don't know much about how it used to be

[@matthewmic12345]

@ Austrian’s punctuality, crew and check-in are still great but the inflight services (drinks/snacks) are a joke compared to the generosity of LH or Swiss. On some flights they don’t even offer free water (e.g. Dubrovnik to VIE) while for a shorter flight with LH or Swiss they give out free water bottles and chocolate - even for a 20 mins flight. It’s so sad, Austrian used to have such good food and drinks (economy + business)

[@halitosis75]

Omg the talking never stops, hence the volume is off and fast forward to what I want to see

[@wilba1964]

Austrian is not the strongest in Lufthansa group. That is either Lufthansa or swiss

[@fistmaster696]

Rather not since they don't have a first class and the lounges are a joke

[@YESHIVA2919]

As usual, Wikipedia is inaccurate hence your video information is also.

[@ThePolaroid669]

You might want to learn how to pronounce Viscount. It sounds like: vi·kownt. No 'S'

[@robertciuraru8221]

If you would have flown to EWR, you would have experienced the 787!

[@wotan10950]

I am booked on Austrian Newark-Vienna in May, but it’s listed as 777-200.

[@robertciuraru8221]

@ Yes, they switch them around. 787 goes back to JFk for the summer

[@chrisvodka2412]

Nothing compared to China Airlines A350 Business Class.

[@nicolascorrea1146]

"all y'all"?? really..

[@xr6lad]

‘Couldn’t understand’. Don’t the crew speak English?

[@mazchen]

They do. There's also written menu.

[@Ye-Olde-Veteran-FR]

Ancient, thin and dry air, loud, clunky 767s. UGH.

[@henson2k]

Austrian desperately need 787

[@mazchen]

They do have 2 already and more to come in 2025

[@terryeiss8469]

Viscount is pronounced Veyecount and Tyrolean Tirolean. Perhaps some research would be in order.

[@PHIL_PD]

Junkers is pronounced, 'younkers', I found your long history lesson rather boring...sorry...

[@zloinaopako]

It’s not a TV, its a video monitor. Does it show any broadcast television? No it doesn’t, therefore it is not a tv.

[@xr6lad]

Stop being churlish.