Strongest Bowling Ball Ever!! | Roto Grip Gem Ball Review W/ Kris Prather

Roto Grip Gem Bowling Ball Review with Kris Prather as he demonstrates how he feels about the strongest bowling ball he's ever thrown!!
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[@treads2595]

I’m always impressed when I see the pros drilling their own balls.

[@SkateClipsAndTips]

Saves them time to drill their own, instead of always relying on someone else to drill it

[@treads2595]

@@SkateClipsAndTips I’m impressed that they know how to do it. I most certainly don’t know how to drill my bowling balls.

[@austinhawker4152]

the impressive part is like darren when they buy their own drill press to work on there own stuff. dedication

[@stompingpeak2043]

@@treads2595 well it doesn't take much to learn how to drill a ball lol

[@jarrettroseboom2602]

Yeah on a $8000 drillpress to 👢

[@DaMaxchi]

This was one of the best ball reviews that the channel has done. I really liked all the commentary that Kris did and his sharing of his thought process. We'll done...Kris!!!

[@joshhammonds7145]

Roto and Storm need to get Kris doing more reviews. He explains everything so well and smooth. Too bad y’all aren’t doing help videos anymore. Kris and BJ were great at breaking down peoples games

[@TheHouseBowling]

Maybe we will start up a coaching group! 👀

[@mikeboglio1410]

@@TheHouseBowling if want as much input from any/all of you guys. All knowledgeable and different views. But that being said if I had to pick one, it would be Kris. He's got the game I want(and hopefully closest to mine).

[@kjs.4904]

I just got this ball and played last night. One of my favorite ball by far. Definitely goes to my bag. It's true, strongest ball and hook monster. I made my layout a weaker layout. Now I control anywhere from left, mid to right. No problem.

[@flippperboy]

The bowling masking units is dope! Thank for filming this guy. I regretted when he showed up at Earl Anthony’s Dublin Bowl I was not able to see him there. Thanks Packy

[@flippperboy]

@Michael Harris Ok, read Matthew 7:15.

[@jeffcampbell3253]

More Kris reviews please. This is how a review is done. From box to lane with complete transparency. Great comparison as well. Hope to see more soon!

[@mikeadams1988]

Big props brotha. I bowled against you at strike and spare about 4 years ago. You just pulled out the timeless. It was so fun. Good luck on the tour. You are awesome 😁

[@ericp9596]

Kris is a pro’s pro. Really enjoy watching him on tour. He has a really solid game. Great job Kris, nice comparisons. Those masking units are ridiculous! That center has a mint wrapped up in those for sure! Best wishes and luck on tour from Ohio….

[@enigmazero8624]

If box finish is 2000, and you hit it with a wet 2000 or a wet 1000, how does that make it not hook so early? I don’t understand this statement.

[@reyngel]

Great review, Kris-really appreciate the detailed analysis and objectivity 👍🏻

[@STLMTB]

Who thought a giant LED moving screen right above the pins that reflects on the lanes was a good idea? I would find that so distracting. I hope they don't have that thing going on league night.

[@bassinwithdj713]

i used to bowl league there, they turn it to a solid black screen

[@Dukeofearl11]

I love this ball review. It’s one of the best I’ve seen. More of this please.

[@mattzegarelli2753]

Great video!! I feel like that digital back wall is super cool but it has got to be insanity distracting.

[@TheHouseBowling]

Elite focus 😂😂

[@jjhalloran1159]

That was a great review Kris. It's good to see you in more videos and making your own videos.

[@thegreybush7586]

You guys seriously need more love on this channel. I do think you guys need a dedicated person filming your stuff for quality purposes when bowling but other than that, I love this group. It’s actually refreshing to see how many of you guys are actually close friends considering it’s such an independent sport and extremely competitive. Love the content, love the crew, love the behind the scenes stuff…. Keep it up!

[@robertkaczynski8649]

Curious what Kris thinks about the GEM vs the discontinued UFO. Son is a 2 hander >15 mph, > 350 rpms. He has the UFO currently and uses it mostly on heavy oil sport patterns.

[@TheHouseBowling]

It’ll be a similar shape the gem should be a little stronger overall but a similar piece for sure!

[@ThatDudeTonyB]

I was literally just trying to decide what surface ball I want to add to my bags for extremely heavy oil conditions .. thank you

[@Tcrror]

I'm shocked that they were able to make something stronger than the Proton. Judging by the comparison, it seems reaaaaally close. Man, that's a hell of a three ball line between the Proton, the Reality, and the Gem.

[@Ironfangzu]

It's not close. I went from the Crux Prime to the Proton Physix and was happy with how much stronger it was. (I have a relatively weak hand and I struggle on a lot of oil) Then I drilled a Gem recently and WHOA! I found myself moving far to the left and throwing it far right where my balls had never come back, including the Proton. The Gem came back. It's much stronger than the Proton. Amazingly strong.

[@hersheyskwertz9315]

Kris is so smooth man! Loving this channel got the lefties and got the smooth one handed KP

[@TheEskilator3]

Love the video guys!!! That ball looks like it really pounds the sticks.. Quick question/suggestion, If you guys do another video where you change the surface can you go over the changes you make and why? When I heard Prather say a “wet 2000” it made me wonder what the difference is between sanding with wet pads compared to dry… But Thanks for doing what you guys do!

[@JeffGDj]

great review but that bowling centers moving LED wall would drive me nuts lol

[@zeechy]

It's something you'd stare at for hours on acid lol

[@nordattack]

I loved this review because Kris talked us through everything he was doing and seeing with the ball. He taught us a lot.

[@upstatebassing3437]

I haven't seen you're name pop up in a while! I remember you from the booking community forum online! Do you still have and throw your Genesis the judge???

[@nordattack]

@@upstatebassing3437 I still have the Judge. Great urethane ball. A remake of the original 80's Black Hammer. Been having great success these days with a Pitch Black. You can see it in action on my channel in Video # 132. Thanks for remembering me!

[@upstatebassing3437]

@nordattack I bought one right when they came out as well! Still in my bag gets alot of use! I've been throwing that and a Red Faball as of late but just drilled up a double cross today! Never have thrown a pitch black

[@nordattack]

@@upstatebassing3437 Let me know how the Double Cross rolls.

[@upstatebassing3437]

@nordattack can do! I throw quite a bit different then you but ill compare it to some other balls and let you know tomorrow!

[@pauljohnson2473]

Thanks for the sanding suggestion. First time I have adjusted a new ball and the wet sanding at 2000 worked out great.

[@canefan17]

To wet sand you just get the ball wet and use 2000 abralon pad?

[@dawncampbell6170]

I agree with the bright colors. It's a love hate thing because you can see movement but it can strain your eyes. I threw the Helios at a Matchmaker event, put it away after 3 shots. Too bright for me to look at.

[@amotivbowler6655]

how about the eq bars on the lane screen

[@oswaldokatz2523]

Sanded

[@dennis300cr]

The brightness of the Gem doesn't bother me its those back lane overhead digital screens that are super distracting! I was looking at the damn screens not looking at your bowing ball shot!

[@ChrisUlrich]

So glad you said you’re gonna change the surface for the next video. I can’t wait to see that

[@terrylbateman4030]

Kris I'm a stroker when I bowl so would this new ball bring my average up from 195 let me know because the last bowling ball I had was a storm Hyroad

[@fridge5713]

Was genuinely surprised when I realized this was at Plainfield lanes, it’s very close to where I live and it’s where I go to bowl

[@EarlUgalde]

I like the variety the House is doing lately. I really enjoyed Kris' style of review. Great balance of action shots and analysis! I hope to see more from KP!

[@Ironfangzu]

Can't agree more. This was a wonderful ball review. None of us can do what Prather can with the ball, but the way he explains how he feels about the ball's motion and what he's doing to find the pocket with it, is really very instructional. of course, it helps if you're Kris Prather so once you find the line, you can casually stick an 8 bagger up for the video.

[@henrycorrea9586]

I don't know if I can bowl with that moving background above the lanes. Props to those who can.

[@chriswebbtech]

Right i was thinking same thing. It's really cool, and I assume league / tournaments have scores back there which is cool. But Dang that is some distraction.

[@nickganiron2730]

Excellent, well done ball review. Bowling there with those masking units , it’s no wonder Kris has such great concentration

[@zachchinn4608]

I play on some seriously oily lanes and need a ball that can move. Do you suggest this ball or what ball would you suggest for something like that?

[@bjm275]

I feel like the motion screen above the lanes would throw me off

[@SpencerGray_CompSci]

Gem looks great. Wish I could drill my own stuff. Hard to get a good fit from the pro shops around me.

[@spyderrbytee]

I always find myself online shopping for a press I could throw in my garage everytime I watch these kind of videos, but then I remember I almost never buy new equipment and they're also way out of my budget 😂

[@jcdresslerbowling6843]

Would you lay it out differently for heavier volume patterns based on what you are seeing?

[@TheHouseBowling]

Kris would throw it on heavier volume or short patterns that he needs a ball that hooks early!?

[@NeilGR]

the new screen in plainfield lanes looks great, would love to meet kris there one day. it’s 5 min away

[@richardgandia5700]

I would differently like to see you do the surface adjustments. I have trouble with House Shot and would like that smoother motion as to wet sanding vs adding polish to some of my balls and I will be getting the Gem when released. The only ball I ever threw straight out of box was the Reality. Can’t say enough about that ball. Lol and thank you for your video. I hope you win 🏆

[@TheHouseBowling]

Add some polish to the thing and I’ll roll great!!

[@bowlingxp8345]

Nice video Kris ! It was interesting that from the same initial line they were all very similar. But after the move to the RIGHT , the Reality hooked more and the Proton less. And then after the move LEFT, the Gem hooked a bit less than the other 2.

[@baTonkaTruck]

Yeah there’s this counter-intuitive thing with “strong” coverstocks. When he moved right, he finds the dry part of the lane sooner, so the ball starts hooking earlier. The stronger ball will use energy faster, so it uses up most of its energy too soon, the ball slows down because too much friction, and there’s not much rotational energy left to make it hook at the end. The weaker ball won’t read the friction as hard, conserving more rotational energy for the last 30 feet (this is called being more “clean”), and so the weaker ball appears to hook more in that situation.

[@TheHouseBowling]

Gem hooks a lot earlier and the reality is a lot more responsive and stores more energy down lane which is why it looked better from left!

[@bowlingxp8345]

@@TheHouseBowling Yes, but shouldn't the Proton then hook more than the Gem from the right ? From earlier hook to later hook, what would you say the rank goes for these 3 balls?

[@bowlingxp8345]

@@baTonkaTruck Yes i am aware of that, but then Proton should hook more from the right than the Gem. I am not aware of which coverstock is earlier than which.

[@justinhromek73]

@@TheHouseBowling I just want that release!! yours and packi’s ball rolls are $$$

[@alexstriker1969aw]

Hi Im Alex from germany and im in bowling for 42 years. I had a question: Can you make this combarsion with the Balls in polished? Alex

[@TheHouseBowling]

A polished gem would be closer to what the reality does, it would be a bit more responsive down lane and wouldn’t hook quite as early and smooth as this!

[@alexstriker1969aw]

@@TheHouseBowling thank you

[@danielmolina7925]

Finally Someone that Reviews A Ball to its Fullest 🔥

[@Htiger3841705]

Really like how Kris reviewed this bowling ball.

[@joshualoomis6550]

I love my gem on house shot! But im low track high revs and somewhat high speed

[@brianlevandowski3167]

Kent Shark… can we see what your drill sheet looks like, span pitches etc. Aee you using 375 away in your fingers and 312 left right? What is your thumb pitch on the ball, and I’m sure you have multiple IT thumbs with pitch drilled into them for when you want different feels.

[@TravisLG]

I agree with the color thing. I prefer the dark solid colors on all my stuff

[@kyleb5169]

Prather does an excellent job of explaining the ball without getting super technical. He is great at giving the information the general public wants to know about it by keeping it at a level that the every day bowler can understand. Prather's reviews are great.

[@Corvidae65]

Those masking units would drive me bats**t crazy. LOL!

[@TheHouseBowling]

Yea no kidding it would drive me crazy too!

[@jeremyfranklin1510]

I'm looking forward to getting this ball buy at 12lb ball which the Asymmetric weight block is different to the 14-16lb size.

[@thomasmerrick8948]

Thank you for showing your fans how your bowling game works. And also for critique of the newer bowlingballs. U are my favorite on the PBA tour. Have seen U in Kyle and rad's videos, and U are so down to earth but are great at bowling. Not that all great bowlers aren't down to earth. Also U are a ONE-Hander, which is, in my opinion, the way bowling was meant to be. Good Luck on the tour !

[@garthrapp8143]

I absolutely love my Proton, I may have to add this bad boy to the collection

[@freeekychiiild4765]

Great video's! Nice to see you in the spot light!!

[@TheHouseBowling]

That’s what happens when Packys in town to film 😂

[@DoubleDoglegGolf]

Great demonstration Kris. Nearly impossible to tell the difference between the Proton Physics and Global Reality at the same lines. The Gem held up well but I wouldn't say the strongest, possibly the weak pin location made it hook slightly less. I would normally not say this for 258 game, but was a little underwhelmed by the pin carry considering Kris hit the pocket on nearly every shot.

[@allenthomas914]

So for low rev slow speed what surface I heard if your polish it that it would help?

[@TheHouseBowling]

yes polish would help for sure!

[@KwuNorthstar]

My only question is how can you bowl with those seizure causing background lights wow I feel like I am gonna pass out. What a professional I couldn't do it.

[@SkateClipsAndTips]

You look at the lane and pins, not distractions

[@johnniec2861]

@@SkateClipsAndTips yes it is because it reflects all over the place, thats what i was saying with my vertigo , though i ave 220, the Glow bowl stuff is hard to bowl in with my kids

[@jeffreybryson]

Agreed. It's constantly reflecting on the lanes. I hope it's just like that for open bowling.

[@sololegit]

Nice video, KP getting comfortable filming! Will also never not love the second track.

[@kirklamb3270]

My barometer is does this ball stay in your bag, and do you use it to win. If I don't see it a couple months after release, you are just fronting your company's line.

[@donkeydiehard879]

I'm glad to see Prather making some videos. My favorite bowler! release is a work of art. With having slower speed it takes a lot of extra work to get the ball to do what he wants on PBA patterns. Yet still makes nearly every show. There seems to be some distain towards Prather for some reason. I think he emits a ton of confidence, that people mistake for arrogance. There is not a pro athlete on the planet that doesn't have extremely high confidence. They wouldn't be where they are without having the utmost confidence in their game. Keep doing the damn thing Prather. P.s. I believe I purchased a ball off eBay from one of your family members.😂 She was clear to say it wasn't yours so you don't get in trouble. Lol

[@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS]

Maybe I misunderstood but I thought You said to make it not grip and hook early to send it with 1,000 or 2000 which to me would tell it to grip earlier?

[@jacobkaplan2798]

Ball looks great loved having Prather with solo video May look to get the gem.

[@millsdude]

When you said you were gonna bring up the surface, I assume this is hitting it with a higher grit, like 3000. The ball comes out of the box at 2000. I was gonna get one of these but I'm deciding against it. I worry the ball might be too strong for me. Interested to know if you ever followed through with that ball by upping the surface and if there's any conclusion. I'm starting to see this show up at the house but mostly the ladies are throwing it. I can barely keep my Phaze 2 tame enough on the house pattern, so maybe its a bit too strong for my game. I'm a lefty and usually play an outside line, I just worry the Gem will read too early. I'm trying to develop a better inside game, that's what made me think about this ball. Anyway, I'd be interested in a follow up on this ball. Perhaps the upcoming hybrid version of this ball may be a better fit. Supposed to come out of the box at 4000.

[@jetfishin]

He said he could see himself using this on shorter oil patterns? How does that work? With his high rev rate there’s no way this thing wouldn’t over hook right?

[@zanaga1901]

Just got the Tropical Surge bowling ball last week from Storm but haven't used it yet it supposed to be a newer version of what had years ago the Tropical Storm which I had more 200 games than the Hy-Road Storm bowling ball got too but the Hy-Road last time got 200 was on a lane that looked oily. But the Tropical Surge I think will be getting a earlier hook.

[@SleepyXLeegaming]

Yo I got one of the pins y’all signed at Jax 60 from a singles tournament I had, wish to meet y’all some day...

[@t.hargrove3843]

Good video. What's the drill press, jig, and pitch readout you use when drilling up a ball?

[@mollymark3019]

Nice ball review I thinking of pick one now your a good sale man ,I like the way Gem move on the Lanes my friend pick one up When it came out ,He Rolled his first 750 series so he is very Happy Even his wife hast to tell it's bowling 🎳 Gem a good ball 👍

[@usafvet5602]

Man, the lights in the background are just insane...how do you concentrate?

[@wandaduncan6222]

How do you flatten your hand with reactive? I've tried on many occasions and it usually doesn't go as straight as you throw it.

[@Ironfangzu]

Everything Prather said about the Gem is true: you can use it on house shots, sports shots, really any oil pattern and it would look good. Here's what he didn't tell you: PRATHER can throw any ball, in any condition, and make the ball looks great. He has fantastic control of ball speed, can increase or decrease the rotation on the ball at will, and once he finds the right shot, he can repeat it shot after shot like some sort of perfectly programmed robot. This man just won his second major and it's easy to see why. Name the five best bowlers in the world right now. You'd be crazy if Prather isn't in your top 5.

[@dinarachel7]

#Florida pride 🎳👍😎❤

[@reaper98765]

Prather is fantastic to listen to and learn from. Question, does that led wall mess with your vision at those lanes?

[@mikejones8426]

Reminds me of the look and motion of a No Rules or even the Defiant.

[@chucky1119p]

Well.... If I'm not mistaken, it has the same Defiant core. Which makes me want it more. I missed out on the Defiant series. It also makes me wonder if they're going to have a hybrid version of this ball. I sure hope so. But that's just me.

[@sb632]

Going off what I'm seeing from Kris, I can definitely see a need to carry both the Gem and the Reality. If you need it to rev up earlier use the Gem, if it starts using too much energy to make the turn but you still need a lot of ball the Reality is the one. As far as the colors go I remember the old Core LRG from the 2000's which was a bright yellow and blue. I do kind of like color combos like this as it makes it easy for me to see what the ball is doing, and it's never really strained my eyes. Over all I loved this video and Kris' feed back after each shot and what he looks for and likes to see on the lane. Hope to see some more of these!

[@paulbass5955]

Hey Kris, nice ball review and congratulations on all your success! The Shark Kent, always chasing the Bass,lol. Quick question do you remember bowling together? Junior League?

[@protenpinner]

If you're doing a surface video for it, any chance of one that's polished finer ie closer to a pearl?

[@paultatone2100]

Can you do a video on how you cut your tape for your fingers please? Also what brand you use. Thank you!

[@ryanmitskavich300]

That masking unit has to be the coolest thing I’ve ever seen

[@floridafan561]

What pros are house shot killers? And what would their average typically look like?

[@peytongodwin2125]

pink and yellow balls always look good

[@samueldurhamjr902]

What type of covering do you use on your fingertips? And why do you use them?

[@toveytoves664]

I have to ask Chris. Where do you get your shirts from? Haven't any luck or just not looking in the right places for them.

[@derrickdevildog5724]

The display above the pin deck would drive me nuts.

[@reyngel]

Hey Kris-would you mind sharing your finger/thumb pitches?

[@jtsax95]

Kris.....I bowl in that house on Tuesday nights right now. What day of the week and time did you film this? I can never seem to catch that place with open bowl AND the lights on to practice lol

[@TerryPullen]

That wide screen above the pins was crazy!!!

[@mehermontessorischoo]

Storm's site shows it as 2000 box finish. 2.47 RG and .053 Diff at 15lbs.

[@bradunderwood1012]

I feel I don’t like bright color balls going down the lanes. Don’t no why but like darker

[@TheHouseBowling]

It’s easier to see what your ball is doing!

[@Ghettonasty1914]

Oh, I understand it by pin up/down, negative, neutral, or strong side.

[@duncanrw1]

Does Prather drill his finger holes like a vacu insert so he can get his taped fingers in or does it actually cause a vacuum?

[@jefaw82]

I think those animated masking units would drive me crazy, but they look cool. Lol

[@Zyemaster]

Chris is like a sommelier talking about fine wine when he describes the ball action... he is our bowling soballier =)

[@Willykamus]

What is a typical layout for Kris? Thank you

[@mybowlingexcuses]

I'm thinking about the getting this one and having the strongest layout possible that I can have with it.

[@Cdcd4393]

Let's go Kris. Best of luck at the TOC

[@garthrapp8143]

Can somone explain to me what causes that 7 pin leave in the thrid frame... I've been doing tjay A TON lately and have chnaged axis rotation and pocket entry and still keep leaving them, out of nowhere... Wtf is the issue

[@bw5687]

Didn't know you were in the Joliet area. Ever hit, ahem: Laraway, Morris, Wilmington, Lockport, Peotone, Kankakee, or Mokena?

[@thomastaylor6511]

hey fellow illinois boy ( no disrespect intended )got a question do you ever weight the ball after your done drilling them. I noticed the one in this video weighed in a 15 lbs 3 ounces. what is it after drilling

[@TheHouseBowling]

Usual about 3oz gets taken out but it’s almost impossible to feel the difference from 15lbs 3oz or 15lb 1oz

[@thomastaylor6511]

@@TheHouseBowling you mean between 15.3 and 15 and it's been my experience that when drilling a ball that has grips in it it will take out about 4-5 ounces which then makes it a 14 pound ball. and then it confirms why thoughts about why there's so many one pin leaves out there. it's because a 14 pound ball does not carry as well as a 16 pound ball. even a 15 pound ball will not carry as well as a 16 pound ball

[@BornIn1500]

@@thomastaylor6511 What? A ball being 14 lb. 15 oz. doesn't really make it a 14 lb. ball. LOOOOL. Using your logic, 16 lb balls don't exist, since after drilling they will be slightly under 16. So why are you comparing anything to 16 pounds, you know....since according to you they don't even exist. You're using very convoluted logic and it doesn't make any sense. In other words, you're calling a 14 lb 15 oz ball a 14 pounder, yet you're calling a ball that is 15 lb 15 oz a 16 pounder even though they are both only 1 pound apart. You're confusing yourself.

[@thomastaylor6511]

@@BornIn1500 16 lb balls do exist and still weigh 16 lbs after being drilled. every 16 pound ball I owned weighed in At 16.4-16.5 before drilling and I didn't use grips because they never stayed in the ball they always came out with one or both of my fingers.

[@BornIn1500]

@@thomastaylor6511 My point is that claiming a 14 lb. 15 oz. ball is only 14 pounds, and then trying to claim it's 2 pounds lighter than a 16 pounder, is completely ridiculous.

[@gbpursley1]

How does it compare to the UFO from Roto Grip and the Nova from Storm?

[@matthewcalabresi504]

This is going to sound like a dig but it's really not -- I like how the proprietor didn't bother with the typical garish bowling carpet and decided to invest in the videoboard masking units.

[@johnniec2861]

that wouldnt be good to bowl on for someone like me who aves 220 but has vertigo :P, was difficult enough to watch the video

[@TheHouseBowling]

Looks sick!

[@TheHouseBowling]

During leagues the center actually shuts them down and plays something a lot easier to look at!

[@tamelailes8166]

@@TheHouseBowling I just hope some hacker doesn't get a wild hair up their butt and start streaming Porn Hub on it during league one night!! Lmao!!

[@twenzy_dk]

So how do you think the ball would perform on the Phantom Pattern which is a 42ft, 50mL high school pattern

[@TheHouseBowling]

Strong!!

[@iiipercenterpatriot4266]

Nice bowling. This center would drive me nuts seeing all the colors on the lane while I'm shooting

[@NotQuiteEpic]

I want to bowl there! How often does something besides the bowling ever attract you to a bowling alley? That's rare.

[@iiipercenterpatriot4266]

@@NotQuiteEpic we have a local center that oils regularly, maintains the lanes, has clean ball returns, and uses premium lane oil. Not to mention their food is great and they have one of the biggest Bar selections in the area.

[@Nick-mg1td]

i go to plainfield lanes alot. that was cool to see haha, nice throwing !

[@Crosstailx]

Does anybody know the name of the song that starts at 7:00 ? I've been searching for that song for years now lol.

[@charlieodom9107]

Prather out there just casually hitting 250s with a brand new ball! That is insane!

[@Artifex422]

I average 157 in my league and i bought a storm nova and bowled a 220 my first game

[@charlieodom9107]

@@Artifex422 what is your point? It has literally NOTHING to do with the ball!

[@Artifex422]

@@charlieodom9107 a brand new ball sometimes is good because its a fresh feeling…

[@charlieodom9107]

@@Artifex422 oh, so now you're an expert with your 150 average on a shitty house shot? I carry a higher average than that on my opposite hand on a harder pattern!

[@Artifex422]

@@charlieodom9107 yeah my first year bowling in a league and I’m already shooting 150 with no formal training but god forbid i literally say the same thing you did and your head explodes