Stubborn Hillbilly Finally Listens To His Subscribers, Sawmill Upgrade

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

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[@mr.soundtek5793]

I'm 66 years old and in Indiana we call it cedar, not juniper. Who have ever heard of a juniper chest or a juniper lined closet? Ok, so it comes from a Juniper tree and that's good to know, but it's too late for me to call it a Juniper tree. It will always be a Cedar Tree. Great video - Friend.

[@johngagne986]

I really like seeing how you and your Dad have this self sufficiency ion helping each other. I lost my Dad years ago but know we would have done the same kind of thing, not sawyer but in other ways to help each other. It hits my soft spot each time one of the episodes mentions this type of project Nathan. It is truly a blessing.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

appreciate it John,

[@richardthornhill4630]

There goes a proud happy father with some nice lumber, so glad to have a son with a woodmizer. He is glad you got out of law enforcement and staying nearby. Nathan your photography and editing is very professional.

[@texasjetman]

Agree 100%

[@garyblevins3532]

I'm glad that you got your Dad around still. My Dad gave away a 2011 WOODMIZER LT 40 hydraulic for $3000. He obviously wasn't in his right mind and the person who took advantage of it... well, that's in God's hands.

[@patbrewer4205]

Call it what you want, your the sawyer not those of us that watch you always called Cedar in Northern Tx but down in the Hill Country they call it Juniper it’s your sawmill and it’s your show

[@ManuelGarcia-ww7gj]

Down here in Texas, no one knows what a juniper is, but as soon as you say "eastern red cedar," they know what you are talking about.

[@darincarter7098]

I grew up in central Michigan and we have loads of cedar swamps. I have never heard it called Juniper. A testament to how diverse our country is. Is it soda or pop. lol

[@iain1969]

So good you did that for your Dad. I miss mine.

[@texasjetman]

I miss mind too even though he was grumpy I sure miss calling him to talk snd ask questions on wood working and plumbing. Electrical

[@mikeadams2677]

Nathan, you're correct. That is a cedar log, not juniper.Just to help clear the air about the Juniper and cedar debate: Others want to know Is red cedar the same as juniper?  Eastern Red Cedar is very closely related to the Common Juniper, in fact they are in the same genus. The key obvious difference is that Juniper seldom grows as a tree, whereas Red Cedar nearly always does

[@wallacegrommet9343]

The camerawork is so amazing that I can smell the cedar!

[@williambryant5946]

Eastern Red Cedar is what they are called when you look them up online on tree identification websites. My father sold Christmas trees for 20 years and planted 1,500 of these trees bought from the local USDA/Forestry Service Center in our county and they call them Eastern Red Cedar. Now after 38 years the ones that are left, I'd say around 900; are in nice straight rows and are atleast 12 to 18 inches with some being closer to 24 inches at the base. I'm ready to cut them and mill them but my father doesn't want to. I want boards for the inside my closets and to go on the walls of my enclosed front porch. I'm gonna slip out there when he's gone for a few days sometime and cut about 100 and get me some boards. LOL!

[@douglasharlos4113]

You got to love your father's and I'm glad you showed the family bond

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Got some good looking lumber out of those Juniper Logs or the Red Cedar Logs. I could imagine smelling them as you milled them. Thanks for sharing with us. You'll enjoy hooking the sawmill to the dust collector, that will help you a lot. Stay safe and keep up the fun. Fred.

[@thomasallen3818]

Here in Texas we call it Red Cedar also. If I was to go out to buy Juniper posts the seller would probably look at me like I was nuts. We also have cedar allergies, not Juniper allergies.

[@1954JDR]

I grew up on a farm in Alabama and always called the trees "red cedar". I didn't learn about "juniper" until I moved to Virginia when I started working for the US government. So keep sawing the red cedar.

[@richpeggyfranks490]

We call it cedar in Texas. If a yankee tells us that it's actually juniper, he might find himself hog-tied to his Volvo.

[@ottoMeansEight]

Hilarious

[@richpeggyfranks490]

I didn't mean to disrespect Volvos. Thanks.@@ottoMeansEight

[@ottoMeansEight]

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[@stevemartinez6757]

I love the smell of Cedar. I also think that it is a very nice looking wood.

[@dmorgan28]

That was a neat video. I love the grain in that red cedar. It’s beautiful. So glad you still have your Dad. I lost my Dad in 2001. I sure have missed him. I love your shop and your Woodmizer. 👍❤️

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@timsutherland5089]

I always thought cedar didn’t rot. My son and I found a very large cedar log. We got it cut into and delivered to the sawmill. As you said yes there was rot.

[@michaelsmith2723]

Out here in the west, a Juniper fencepost lasts up to 35 years in the ground.

[@user-justbeingme]

My Father died when I was turning 9, you're a lucky man.

[@toddpacheco4748]

Well Nathan you just made your dad a happy man ❤😊😮

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

no doubt,

[@PineInTheAshMilling]

Nathan the sweeping of sawdust won,t stop with blower install, its just not as much. I installed large blower to my saw floor still get dirty w/ dust that doesn't make shoot.

[@johnnysechrist6313]

Here in Kentucky we call cedar cedar, juniper is a bush with berries that they use to make gin.

[@kevinkitchen7664]

Thank you for the beautiful picture clarity. This is my favorite channel. I really enjoy the way you explain everything. Keep up the good work, and thanks again.

[@texasjetman]

Agree with you sir. I’m proud of Methsn and his professionalism constantly a good human. Proud to support his Chanel being a Patreon member

[@boltgun7266]

I'm liking his truck.

[@harrykeel8557]

I am with you, I have always identified the wood you were sawing as cedar, it also goes by Eastern Red Cedar. Never heard it called that other tree. Oh well, each to his own. I do enjoy seeing you and your Dad together. Have a blessed evening and one tomorrow.

[@neilalexander2662]

I call it cedar. They use it in "Cedar Chests".

[@johnaddis1022]

We call them Red Cedar or just Cedar also, here in Gawga! When you get in trouble as a kid you had to go cut you own switch too! John

[@stuartscott9646]

Cedar vs Juniper. In my almost 82 years, I've never seen a juniper chest. Or juniper shingles. SO THERE!

[@Jpella88]

Thank you for addressing why you don’t sell the waste. I’ve always wondered why yall don’t sell the saw dust to horse farms. Now I know why.

[@markpashia7067]

I am pretty sure that the name comes from back in the fifties and sixties when a company sold a product that they called "Tennessee Aromatic Red Cedar" that was tongue and groove all four sides for lining cedar chests and cedar closets. I remember having a few jobs installing that in closets back in the sixties. It was about half inch thick. You nailed in the tongue so that all the nails were hidden like hardwood flooring. It would keep moths out of wool clothing and such. When ever the scent faded, you could just give it a light sanding and open up new surface to get the scent back to keep the moths out. Way nicer than the smell of moth balls. Yup, it is juniper but no one cared what you called it as long as it worked.

[@markpashia7067]

PS it's true dimensions was half inch thick by two and a quarter inch wide face and random lengths up to four foot. Had tongue on one side and one end with groove on the other side and other end. That way it was always locked into one sheet when done. All nails were in the tongue below the surface to allow the sanding later except the start strip had to have nails in the tongue and through the face on the other edge at the joint of the walls or floor which usually had a molding to cover. Really neat product.

[@tomfarley3924]

Sometime, when you get a chance, you will have to do a video on your Dad with him building what he makes with the lumber.

[@srh1101]

People can be so picky over names Nathan. It's what it is wherever it's growing and whatever it's called in that region

[@williamlowry1274]

Your eastern red cedar may be a juniper. Around here (western Washington) we have what everyone calls a cedar, or Western Red Cedar. It's not a cedar either. But no one would think of calling it anything else. So I think that calling your juniper by it's popular name is perfectly acceptable.

[@mburke1211]

That new blade was slicin' that cedar like butta.

[@refurbansuburban]

Thanks for the sharpener demo! As a mechanical engineer I appreciate the design aspects of running a sawmill. Thank you.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

You bet!

[@terry.jamesrobert]

Here in Atlantic Canada, we would call the log Eastern Red Cedar, where as a Juniper log looks more like a Pine tree.

[@deladally1286]

So precious you and your dad!

[@jamesbreault5762]

In west tsxas juniper is brown has no aroma and is just a scrub tree orbig bush i burn it in out door container has no lumber value what so ever sometimes in east Texasit gets tall enough to make fence posts.

[@WoodruffSawmill-w9d]

Great video as always Nathan. Great to see your relationship with your dad. My dad had a JA Vance circular sawmill that I still have today. He passed in 2015. I now have a Norwood Bandsaw Mill. My dad would have loved operating this mill. Manufacture’s have taken a lot of the manual labor out of the sawmill industry. Keep up the great work. Sammy

[@Sawmillwoodworking]

It's amazing that the machine is very sophisticated and makes the work easy, maybe in my area there isn't that tool yet🙂

[@marksmith9142]

I tried the dust one time in the farrowing house. I walked in the next mourning and sows and pigs had giant boogers hanging out of there noses.

[@williamellis8993]

It's great to see your dad still rolling along. Bill

[@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering]

Great camera work allied to your commentary Nathan on explaining the grinding wheel device to re -sharpen your blades . If even I can now understand the process then you know you’ve done a great job 😅 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@helenjohnson7583]

As my mother used to say after we cleaned our room, “I can see your floor!”.

[@lutherpayne9957]

In my neck of the woods, we have mountain juniper and western red cedar. What you have on the mill we would call western red cedar. I enjoy your videos and look forward to seeing your dust collection effort. Cheers

[@jameskaufmann4260]

Hope you continue to get better. I have both types of cancer. Wear the hat and sun screen. Really enjoy your videos. Have a remote switch that I got from Woodcraft. You plug it in, then the blower. It comes with a key fob Push it and blower blows

[@timhawley1068]

here in Vermont we have juniper and red cedar and they are not the same

[@davidbreazeale7257]

Just found this info.... Juniperus virginiana, also known as eastern redcedar, red cedar, Virginian juniper, eastern juniper, red juniper, and other local names ... just so you know

[@chrisokeeffe7624]

You are right. We have mountain juniper, EVERYONE calls it cedar. 🙂

[@Z-Bart]

I just called Joe last week. He had my info from last year. Easy Peasy.

[@mikegates4930]

I have always called it Tennessee red cedar from the PNW.

[@terryclouse6390]

I'm from tennessee and I call it red cedar to

[@michelem9341]

Great information, great cinematography and what was that, Superman sounds flying through that red cedar? Lol.

[@davidhensley76]

Dad was chatty today. 😊

[@stevebaker7648]

You could call it Juneeder or cediper! 😂

[@exotictones1054]

In michigan it's red cedar too.n most of the time it's referred to as eastern red cedar.

[@jillatherton4660]

👍 Nice hat? Yup.

[@lazaruslazuli6130]

The Piedmont Master Gardeners Association: When is a cedar not a cedar? When it’s an eastern redcedar. The name is a misnomer. This plant is actually a juniper, as its botanical name (Juniperus virginiana) indicates. True cedars belong to the Cedrus genus and are not native to this country. Sources are inconsistent on the treatment of the common name, variously referring to it as eastern red cedar (two words), eastern redcedar (one word), eastern red-cedar (hyphenated), and red cedar, among many other names.

[@hulkthedane7542]

Howdy. I have no issues with you calling the trees whatever you call them. I am curious though, so I did a (very small) research on "juniper" and "red cedar" - from what I found, they are very closely related, with the seemingly largest difference being, that juniper almost never form reel trees - they form bushes and brush -, whereas red cedar forms trees. With that in mind, that log you saw, is rightfully called cedar. Sure, someone will disagree.... Good for you to get dust collection👍... I wonder, why you intend to just blow it out the side of the shed - would it not be easier for the further handling, if you made some sort of container to collect it in? Something, you could drive away and empty with your skid steer or tractor?? Keep up the good work. Best wishes from Denmark 👍👍

[@robintaylor-mockingeemill8223]

Juniper looses its needles in the winter time , It does not have that color . That is a type of cedar .

[@brucebello2049]

Thanks for for another great video Francisco, what’s in a name anyway

[@jlooseround]

Excellent video as always brother. Wish I could make it up again this year but I'm still making hay.

[@3870TheDad]

FYI: the actual name of the tree is Eastern Red Cedar Species Juniperus virginiana.

[@ArrBee6]

Cheers

[@campy9712]

Thanks for a great video!

[@stevestormssr5492]

Ok, I'm not trying to kick a dead mule here, but on the subject of sawdust. Have you considered a fire log press?

[@jamesmorrison3665]

In Tx. its red cedar

[@terryhelms1578]

that was a good video, like seeing saw maintenance grinding and grinder, maybe next time watch you set the teeth!

[@wilcleno1866]

What does the US Forest Service call that kind of log. Go by what they call it and let the naysayers know what's right.

[@ronnielloyd4514]

I like a clean shop.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Me too!

[@KillingerUSA]

Good video, love that juniper

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks 👍

[@TassyDeval]

1:55 I know where to go when there is a world shortage of grease.

[@vicf5726]

Nathan, instead of just pilling up your dust, run the hose into a palletised box (big box) then just fork lift it when it's full?? just an Idea? god bless.

[@donaldtownsend5923]

I need one for my chiuwawa dog.

[@CraigGrant-sh3in]

Saw dust in general can be hazardous\toxic to horses and even small pets . Never use walnut or maple shavings for horses . The sawdust from a sawyer contains all types of wood that can irritate a horses lungs ,cause fur loss ,skin conditions and even death . Use shavings\chips from soft woods like pines .

[@sgtmark8844]

You need to use your gopher. Bruno gofer the shovel and clean up this sawdust mess 😂😂

[@alt5494]

Thought this was going to be building a shedder to make mulch or wood chips from the outside cuts based on the video name.

[@chrishorvath6270]

Cedar smells wonderful!

[@ZZTalkZZ]

I always watch all YT at 1.5X speed. FYI the sound effect during that fast cut seen sounded horrible. I appreciate the sound of your channel and am looking forward to any sound upgrades. From my point of view it sounded like a artificial sound effect. Please don’t be offended. :-)

[@greatsilentwatcher]

I enjoy watching.

[@charlievanlandingham567]

Red cedar is just that, red cedar. Juniper is white cedar

[@midnightmusicfanx36]

Hi Nathan, Have you considered starting a second youtube channel for the forge and metal work? Perhaps...Out of the Woods/Forge & Metal A. I'm sure most--if not all of the subscribers here would follow it B. It would be a way to keep the metal works project videos together and would appeal to metal purists C. It would create another product line/revenue stream D. It would keep this channel as is, which as you already know comes with it's own headaches and viewer complaints I hope this helps...Why risk losing subscribers here and the momentum/audience you already have. Keep up the good work Mark K

[@TupyWbie]

Even the Audubon field guide to trees lists the common name of Juniperus virginiana as "Eastern Red Cedar." Some people....ugh

[@phillipbainbridge9107]

To call it Juniper is too vague. Eastern red Cedar (Juniperus Virginiana) is a species of the genus Juniperus.

[@30pvfd]

Found your channel bushradical gave it a shout out 👍👍

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

Thanks for coming

[@bendemeyer6365]

A briquette press for the saw dust?

[@DannyBebe]

Have you ever sawn Hackberry was wondering if it made good lumber

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

seldom.

[@mikethompson4336]

Mid Missouri ……...CEDAR

[@kevinwill8542]

dumb question ,how do u get teeth marks out of the wood..some look pretty damaging.. dad was happy ...thanks very cool stuff

[@tonygrimes13]

Sander of course.

[@terrancesnyder9323]

GOOD MORNING

[@geronimome4153]

Get the gullet as someone said 😄

[@ecossearthur]

Couldnt find the link for your hat Sir?

[@jillatherton4660]

Mellow sounds too.

[@stanwooddave9758]

If I may, ask a question. What is the best species of wood to use for drying (as stickers) in the Klin, and what is the worst you personally have used, or learned from others. Thanks in advance Nathan

[@tonygrimes13]

Nathan has said in previous videos that he buys his stickers at Lowes.

[@wjustinmartin]

rec’d my OTW shirt from FF today excite to rep. OTW

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

awesome, I appreciate your support,

[@scottreeves1226]

If those juniper/cedar trees have berries and you can flavor gin from them, then to me it's juniper.

[@OutoftheWoods0623]

😂😂

[@JapanScott1]

Horse people (and likely all livestock) wouldn't want any sawdust that has (black?) walnut in it either.