Studio Electives - The Lord's Coming Wrath 2.0 with Michael Ufferman - Different Rapture Positions

[@jayonnaj18]

This has been a wonderful lesson, and God has enabled me to understand it ----Thank You, Lord Jesus!!! All to Your Glory, Lord!!!

[@lindaslaven5800]

The pre wrath part of this makes good sense. Thank you, and God Bless.

[@susanjones6973]

Great message, I believe your teachings 100%. God is good, he keeps showing me the truth through your ministry. May God bless you and Zion's Hope.

[@ronpiper4548]

Great job in demolishing the pre-tribulation view. I hold a pre-wrath and post tribulation view. The tribulation is shorten for the elect after the trumpet sounds when the rapture occurs and the wrath begins until the end of the 70th week of years. How long does the Day of the Lord`s wrath last? Is it one hour, a day, a week, 5 months or up to a year? Does it start at the feast of Trumpets of which no man knows the day or hour?

[@RaptureofSaints]

Grab a Concordance and Look at the Greek Word "ORGE" and then Look at all of the Select places in Revelation where Jesus used that Greek Word "ORGE" and then you will SEE 100% Clearly when Jesus and when others in Revelation say that the "ORGE" begins! I will give you some hints! 1/ The Great Tribulation MUST be 100% Fulfilled before the "ORGE" will ever take place! 2/ The Events in the Sun and Moon and Stars must be seen before the "ORGE" will ever take place! 3/ Jesus MUST come and Must be Present for the "ORGE" to begin! 4/ Jesus is the one that Tramples the Wine Press of the "ORGE" Just like we all know what Agape is and how Agape is not Phileo so we MUST know what "ORGE" is and what it is NOT! The Post Tribulation COMING of Christ Doctrine is a Doctrine that Declares Jesus is COMING before the "ORGE" begins! We are not appointed to "ORGE" but to Obtain Salvation at Christs COMING that whether we are alive or have Died we will Live Together with Jesus! Blessed and Holy are all that will take part in the First Resurrection at Christs COMING when Satan is Bound as they will NOT be appointed to "ORGE" but will Obtain Salvation on that Day of the Lord!

[@Jacobbethel]

I take it the DAY OF THE LORD..which begins with the wrath of God,is the 7th day..from year 6,000-7000 Starts with the rapture,sealing of the 144,000,wrath of God,Second coming,Millennial Kingdom.... The 7th day

[@vilmahawley4914]

Thanks

[@globalwarninguk]

The idea of shortened for the Elect sake doesn't have to mean reduced in length it can mean the time won't exceed what has been determined, i.e it won't last any longer than.

[@Jacobbethel]

Mmmh..I think it's straightforward let's not complicate it....the great tribulation days are 1260..but they are shortened for the sake of the elect..BY THE RAPTURE..that could be somewhere in the 1,500 or 1,800 days no one knows....so that the Wrath starts...the elect will not be on earth by then..only the 144,000 and those who took the mark....during the 7 trumpets.. The cutting short is the Rapture...days will still be 24 hours but we won't finish the 1,260.we the elect...how I hope to be one of them

[@BReady-yr3cu]

Question to anybody who knows. I understand the rapture at the sixth seal clearly. But what about the reaping of the earth in rev chapter 14 ? I know rev 14:17-20 is a reaping of judgment by an angel but the reaping in verse 16 is by the son of man who sits on the cloud. What does that mean?

[@anthonyadam7343]

According to your theory , if Matthew 24:36 is the same 1 Thes 5:1-2 would it be safe to say that Jesus cannot return today as all the things written need to occur first ? is that correct ?

[@RaptureofSaints]

Jesus is NOT coming until we see what Jesus said we must see and unless we see what Paul the Apostle said we must see! Matthew 24 is exactly the same as 1 Thessalonians 5! It is not a theory but the Words of our Lord Jesus and the Apostle Paul!

[@easttexan2933]

anthony.....yes, that is correct. 2Ths2:1-3 confirms.

[@JASON_CAMPEAU]

Jeremiah 3:33 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not. Jeremiah 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

[@marthabturner456]

I found this presentation confusing. I have listened to all the different ideas of when the rapture occurs (pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, halfway. Into the tribulation and post tribulation). Bouncing back and forth between pre-trib and halfway into the tribulation to prove which was correct did more to confuse me than make it clear to me,

[@RaptureofSaints]

It is no wonder you say this Martha! What we must all do is simply believe what Jesus our Lord did say! Jesus said 100% as Clear as Day that the Great Tribulation must come to its end and when it does then we will see the Events in the Sun and Moon and Stars and we will then know 100% that the Coming of our Lord is Near and that it will be Time for all believers to be Looking Up and Lifting up our Heads and watching and Praying KNOWING that the day of Redemption is near! That Simple! That True! Paul the Apostle Taught the SAME Doctrine as Jesus! It will only be a Post Tribulation COMING of Jesus just as Jesus and Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Paul and Gabriel said!

[@RaptureofSaints]

Thank You for doing this Series on the Wrath of God and the Timing of our Lords Coming prior to the Day in which Jesus will Begin to Trample the Wine Press of His "ORGE" I was a little surprised on how you talk about the Rapture! We know as Believers in Christ that the Greek Word "Harpazo" is the word Rapture! Harpazo is an action, it is a Verb not a Noun! It is an action not an Event! The Meaning and use of the Greek Word "Harpazo" is the exact same as the word Rapture! I believe we are in great error when we make the Harpazo / Rapture more than what it is! The Greek Word "Harpazo" / Only Means to be seized and moved from one location to another, it is an Action that must take place so that we can be Gathered Together to Meet Jesus! The Rapture is the Means by which we will be Gathered Together to Meet Jesus! Paul confirmed this in 1 Thessalonians 4 when Paul said that at the COMING / Parousia of Jesus our Lord the Resurrection of Gods Children will take place and when that Resurrection has taken place then we will (Together) be Harpazo / Raptured from the earth on which we stand up into the Clouds of the air so as to Meet Jesus! The Truth is that the COMING of Jesus and the RESURRECTION (Must) precede us being Raptured together to Meet Jesus! The Rapture does NOT cut short the Tribulation! The Tribulation does NOT end by the Rapture! The Great Tribulation is ended by God almighty! After God has Ended the Great Tribulation then we will see the Events in the Sun, Moon and Stars and when we do we will then Know that the COMING of Jesus our Lord is Near and that Finally it is Time for all Believers to begin Looking Up and Lifting Up our Heads and Watching and Praying, knowing 100% that we will soon be escaping from what we will be seeing! The Truth is no man knows what That Day and Hour of His COMING will be BUT we can know when it is Near! The Truth is that the Great Tribulation MUST be ended by God FIRST and then the Events in the Sun etc will be Revealed by God and then we will be Looking up and THEN the COMING of Jesus will take place and THEN the First Resurrection will take place and THEN we will be Together Raptured to Meet Jesus! The Truth is that ONLY those that Partake in the Resurrection will partake in the Rapture! We must keep the Rapture in its True Meaning and True Perspective and not make it more than what it is! The Rapture does NOT end the Great Tribulation and the Great Tribulation is NOT cut short by the Rapture! I look forward to hearing the Rest of the Series!

[@williamverdell8856]

Revelation 22:18-19 teaching, or preaching the book of Revelation is a salvation issue u need to realize that is exactly what these scriptures teach.

[@williamverdell8856]

As far as knowing the day of Jesus coming, it is possible to know, because Jesus is returning two more times, his second coming he only comes to get us on a cloud, he uses a sickle to gather us out of the earth Revelation 14:14-16 he uses a sickle to gather us out of the earth and take us back to heaven while he pours out his wrath on the earth, after his wrath is complete he comes again to stay, and begin his 1,000 year reign.

[@RaptureofSaints]

Jesus said "No Man Knows that Day of His COMING in the Days AFTER the Great Tribulation has ended!" That Simple! No Man on earth will EVER Know that Exact Day NOR exact Hour of His COMING! Even Jesus does NOT KNOW and He is the Son of God! Even the Angels of God do NOT know! We MUST Trust what Jesus says! We WILL know when His COMING is Near and we will KNOW when we are to Look Up BUT we will NEVER EVER Know that Exact Day NOR exact hour!

[@williamverdell8856]

The tribulation is the first 3.5 years, tribulation simply means troubles, the last 3.5 years is called the great tribulation, or time of great troubles, but the time of great tribulation is longer than the last 3.5 years, at least another three years and eleven months longer than the seven year period. Yes, I can prove this in scripture.

[@RaptureofSaints]

There is NOT One Verse in Scripture that says that there is a 7 Year Tribulation! Please show us all the Verse where it says that there is a 7 Year Tribulation! It is a False Teaching to say that there is a 7 Year Tribulation! No Man of God in Scripture ever Taught that Fable!

[@RaptureofSaints]

The Time of Great Trouble will be exactly as Gabriel and Jesus Prophesied! Not one day Shorter and not one day Longer! The Length of that Great Tribulation has been Cut to its exact Precise length! If that Great Tribulation were to go on and on No Flesh would be saved BUT because of the Elects Sake it is Cut to its Precise length! That Precise Length is 1260 Days which is 42 Months which is 3 1/2 Years! The Two Witnesses have Authority for that 1260 Days! The Beast has Authority for that 1260 Days! The Gentiles tread down Jerusalem for that 1260 Days! Those that Flee Judea are Protected for only 1260 Days! The Time of Great Trouble is 1260 Days! The Saints of God will be Persecuted for 1260 Days! That 1260 Days ONLY begins in the Middle of the 7 Year Holy Covenant with many! After that 1260 Days of Great Tribulation has ended THEN we will SEE the Events in the Sun and Moon and Stars to signal that the Great Tribulation has ended BUT also to Indicate that our Lords COMING will finally be Near and that it is the Time for all believers to Begin Looking Up and Lifting Up our Heads and Watching and Praying and being Ready Knowing that the Day of our Redemption is Finally Near! No Man knows that day and Hour of His COMING but we all KNOW what we must see so as to Know when it will be Near!

[@RaptureofSaints]

Can you please do a Series Teaching on what the Greek Word "Harpazo" is and what it means! Can you Teach on the Harpazo using Scripture only showing the 13 places in the New Testament where that Greek Word "Harpazo" is used so that all Believers may know 100% what that Greek Word "Harpazo" means and what it is and what it is not! Then they will all Know what the Rapture is as the rapture is ONLY the Harpazo! Jesus the Son of God said that AFTER the Great Tribulation has ended by God then Events will be seen in the Sun and Moon and Stars and when we see those Events we will of course KNOW that the Great Tribulation has ended and that our Lords COMING is Finally Near! Paul said that when Jesus our Lord does COME the RESURRECTION of Gods Children will take place in the Twinkling of an eye and when it does then we will (TOGETHER) be Raptured from the Earth into the Clouds so as to Meet Jesus in the Air! The Rapture is the Harpazo and Harpazo ONLY means to be seized and moved from one location to another as Confirmed in all places in the New Testament! Please do a Series on the Harpazo so that Believers will have a True Understanding of what the rapture is!

[@trollytrollerson888]

Pre-wrath rapture is absolutely true and the more you study the rapture the more obvious this becomes. I get so turned off by preachers who teach the pre-trib rapture. They are stuck in their cognitive dissidence and try to make the Bible fit their preconceived belief instead of letting GOD'S WORD speak for itself.

[@JASON_CAMPEAU]

Yeshua Words (Jesus was NOT the christ). 1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. John12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. Matthew 16:20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

[@anthonyadam7343]

I disagree with your logic from 49 minutes ....You are saying that Matthew 24 and 1 Thes 5:1-2 are the same day ...They are not . they are two separate events . One is the day of Christ and one is the day of the Lord . Also, we are not the bride , we are the body of Christ .No where in Paul's epistles does it say we are the bride , he says the words like a chasten bride ...This is a common mistake made if you are not using a KJV BIBLE

[@RaptureofSaints]

Is the Day of the Lord going to Overtake you as a Thief in the Night or will you be ready for that Day of the Lord and Obtain Salvation and not "ORGE"? The Day of the Lord is two things! 1/ For Believers in Christ it is the Day of Salvation! 2/ For those in Darkness it is the Day of "ORGE"! We in Christ are NOT appointed to that Day of ORGE but will Obtain Salvation in Jesus on that Day whether we have Died or are Still alive we WILL LIVE Together with Jesus!

[@berns4146]

Who is left here for the millennial kingdom? There is no rapture of the church. Read Matthew 24:28 what is that about...in Revelation there is an angel that crys out to the birdsof the air to come and feast on the cross flesh of rich and poor free and slave etc. There is also a scripture that speaks of spirits that leap like frogs out of the Beast false prophet and the dragon. To gather together those who would make war against the Lord and and the saints.

[@RaptureofSaints]

Read Zechariah Chapter 14 and you will see 100% who the Mortals are that still remain on the Earth during the 1000 Year Reign! Zechariah makes it 100% Clear who those Heathens are and what happens if they do not do what Jesus commands! Read Chapter 14 of Zechariah!