STUDIO SECRETZ - Live Pioneer Toraiz SP-16 Q&A

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Dirty Secretz

Dirty Secretz

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@datboyfilmz1826
@datboyfilmz1826 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta get this unit i feel its a must have where im at in my DJ level now thank you for this tutorial im sold keep doing more videos another Question i would like to see you do the build ups
@dankefurnichts
@dankefurnichts 5 жыл бұрын
pioneer finaly did an firmware update. now you can use 2 fx slots. so i give the machine a second try and bought it (again) now. :-) lets see of it can beat the OctaTrack now.
@555atU
@555atU 4 жыл бұрын
Interested to hear the conclusions you came to regarding the SP-16 and the Octatrack. I have both and I love then both for different reasons.
@grazstarr
@grazstarr 3 жыл бұрын
@@555atU really? I would have though the octatrack would be heaps better than the sp16? How do you find it are you still using the sp16 today?
@555atU
@555atU 3 жыл бұрын
@@grazstarr hey man! The SP-16 is immediate and I can craft ideas quickly on it. I use Splice and can build scenes and export them to the SP-16. The Dave Smith filter also gives it a great sound on its own.. Sampling and sample editing is very easy on it. Multiple outs are a very nice have too. Octatrack is a multi-purpose beast but it's complicated, sample editing is not very good, its menu happy and takes time and patience to get fast with it. Nothing does what the Octatrack does however, but it's a tough love for many people to be competent with it. With all that said, I typically use the SP-16 to create drum beats, percussion and simple melodic riffs. I use the Octatrack to mangle melodic samples with scenes which adds all the interesting stuff to a track.
@grazstarr
@grazstarr 3 жыл бұрын
@@555atU you legend! That's some great feedback thank you! Helps to try and work out what I want to get. I'm tossing up between the sp16 or a digitakt. I prefer to play/jam live and on the fly and build my tracks in a live environment so I'm wondering if the sp16 is my better choice. But I've seen the digi is great for like you said about the octa: mangling and creating rich organic sounds which it doesnt seem the sp16 can do. Anyway thanks again for the awesome reply man!
@555atU
@555atU 3 жыл бұрын
@@grazstarr one bit of SP-16 info that is important is Pioneer-DJ's devotion to the Toraiz line is suspect. They have not put up upgrades in years and their responses in the user forum is a joke. So that's a red flag. Ahh dude you have to bring the Digitakt into this..lol. I have the Digitakt as well and it's new upgrade is a game changer for it's current owners. It's a great device and would recommend it. But it doesn't do time stretching which is it's big shortcoming. And it's all mono samples if that matters...doesn't to me and I prefer them for editing. It all comes down to what kinda music you want to make and how you want to perform it. Another option is the Akai MPC One or Live/Live 2. Those are more studio production tools than all that we've talked about. I don't have those but my friend beta tests for Akai and has all of their MPCs. They are great devices with a more stubborn performance workflow IMO. But Akai sampling is top notch. If you have funds to drop for one device....that's a tough one. I would lean toward Digitakt or Octatrack because of their sequencers allow for more variety. Good luck!
@omgitstord
@omgitstord 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to make this great tutorial/showcase. I got mine on order, and it should be here with the AS-1 at the end of the month. Can't wait!
@lifelies
@lifelies Жыл бұрын
Thx just got Toraiz just now so any information welcome and yep, your video is perfect.
@sloppycrotch7289
@sloppycrotch7289 8 жыл бұрын
By far the best vid on Sp 16 so far. Ordered mine yesterday morning.cant wait. I wanna be like saytek eventually.
@grazstarr
@grazstarr 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, are you still using it? I'm finding all these videos are 4 years old and may have been all because of the hype of a new bit of gear. Seems not many people are still using it apart from Kink.
@BendApparatus
@BendApparatus 3 жыл бұрын
@@grazstarr did you end up getting one? I agree with you on the old vids BUT sometimes gear ends up making a resurrection when people rediscover it. It also drives up the prices. I'm really bad at using production software and overcomplicated gear. So this one really grabs my interest because it's supposedly dead simple. At the this time there's still new units available. But used it's still pretty $$$ to the point that buying it NEW seems more logical...
@djjas764
@djjas764 7 жыл бұрын
Lot of good wishes from my side for doing this video.............. thank you........
@alexsingt...9436
@alexsingt...9436 2 жыл бұрын
Some guy - who first time listend to to sp 16 - was surprised about the high quality of sound power !!!
@fdossa1553
@fdossa1553 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, I liket it. I also have a Toraiz and absolutely love it!!! To help you answer the question at Min 41, about the pitch: If you have the Toraiz linked to a CDJ you can change the pitch of everything you are currently playing at once. You can do that by sliding the pitch fader of the CDJ to which the Toraiz is acting as a tempo slave. As you said, it gets treated as just another regular deck.
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 8 жыл бұрын
fdossa 1 ah ok, I was talking about pitch in terms of key rather than speed. The Toraiz uses the term pitch in that way and the BPM separately. I think I may have misunderstood the question if it was about speed, which is totally true as you say.
@djandreezer
@djandreezer 7 жыл бұрын
Dirty Secretz You mean key, no? You can adjust the key for each track. What you essentially want is take a synth sample and change key on the fly - or transpose. Is that what you're looking to do?
@DJTide
@DJTide 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you think you could show a video of the toraiz actually being connected to the cdjs and mixer? I have a controller and would love a run down of seeing it being all connected. Thanks!
@DJAltCtrl
@DJAltCtrl 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'd to use the SP16 to generate ideas and sketch out, but then what's the best way to get the tracks, effects, midi, essentially the project into the Ableton for further development, mixing and mastering?
@andrewverran3498
@andrewverran3498 Жыл бұрын
Be great if you could do a comparison between the DJS1000 and ToraizSp16, particularly in a dj setup. PeaceFromOZ😊
@birgirsveinsson9674
@birgirsveinsson9674 4 жыл бұрын
I got mine for Christmas never done any music just danced. its been so much fun playing with this. thanks for a great video 'P,s, i havent yet found out how to clear a track. like delete what i have signed to it
@andreash3906
@andreash3906 10 ай бұрын
Is there any way to disable the flickering of the sequencer buttons? Its driving me mad. I have already dimmed them, but in a dark environment they really hurt my eyes after a while.
@Goober2023
@Goober2023 4 жыл бұрын
Could you pls explain how live sampling works. I can sample in fine normally. But the one where u press shift and track I cannot even hear my sample playing to know where to press the pads
@schoovaertssimon7904
@schoovaertssimon7904 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, what about 8bit and 12bit sampling?
@Malinois2812
@Malinois2812 Жыл бұрын
How do you delete a sample on the sp 16?
@showbread9366
@showbread9366 Жыл бұрын
Find out please do share 😅
@aikighost
@aikighost Жыл бұрын
connect it to your computer in USB mode then delete
@biggahaze1690
@biggahaze1690 7 жыл бұрын
How do you record a loop?
@yutube3799
@yutube3799 5 жыл бұрын
Toraiz VS Octatrack - your opinion?
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 5 жыл бұрын
Tough one, I love my Elektron Heat and if I hadn't already been involved with Pioneer it probably would have been a tough decision! Elektron does have a very unique way of doing things, quite 'quirky' whereas the Toriaz SP-16 is more traditional in that way. Both are great and you'll be able to get similar results out of them - I think it's probably personal taste!
@datboyfilmz1826
@datboyfilmz1826 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial im thinking about getting one Question now once u build a song can it be tracked out each track seperate in a wav or save it as a mp3 the complete mix , im diggin this machine as a DJ i think this is gonna help me produce what i have in my mind seems like a awesome device. Where can i purchase this?
@briangarrison2021
@briangarrison2021 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Im thinking of getting the Toraiz SP-16 , really enjoyed the features you showed. They added live sampling recently. Do you still use this in your creative process?
@rogercadiz2981
@rogercadiz2981 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way arround to use every scene with different samples? thanks mate
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, every scene has different set of samples anyway - thats how it works
@dougmaw71
@dougmaw71 7 жыл бұрын
Can you record a certain part of a song you playing from your cdj and play with it
@pepuletrz
@pepuletrz Жыл бұрын
this machine is sill at the top. at 2023
@digitalvamp
@digitalvamp 3 жыл бұрын
Two questions can you hook an unpowered hard drive up is so what is the process? Format as fat32 for Mac? Max size? Thanks also the song mode seems confusing is there any easy workflow for creating a song with a high hat intro and after a few bars other elements come in? Thanks great video! and also if you feel like answering another, the user feature to the left is very confusing
@TheLamont2086
@TheLamont2086 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those keyboard sounds from???
@EverettDudgeon138
@EverettDudgeon138 5 жыл бұрын
Can you record a Polyphonic sequence into the sequencer from an external midi controller? I can’t seem to get a definitive answer on this.
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 5 жыл бұрын
EverettDudgeon138 I haven’t tried this but I know you can play external instruments polyphonically from the SP16. Will try it out next time!
@ChrisSalivan
@ChrisSalivan 6 жыл бұрын
why do you play a voice sample(@24min) not on the Toraiz "Sampler"?
@andreabarreca1316
@andreabarreca1316 5 жыл бұрын
Hi,congratulations for the video, really beautiful!!😉I would like to ask you how can I connect the Toraiz-SP-16 to my XDJ-RX2?👍🏼
@NahumLemayer
@NahumLemayer 4 жыл бұрын
Same question here!
@rapperodebarrio
@rapperodebarrio 3 ай бұрын
@@NahumLemayersaaaame question
@jamespurveur6966
@jamespurveur6966 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.. Is it possible to load samples during playback (without them being audition)?? I’m thinking of using it for live performance with tracks 1-8 as deck A and 9-16 as deck B using the separate outs into a mixer.
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can turn off sound preview so you can load samples into the pads without them being heard til you trigger them!
@jamespurveur6966
@jamespurveur6966 4 жыл бұрын
Dirty Secretz great, and is it possible to load samples whilst the sequencer is running? Thanks
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can load new samples in whenever you want - even when you’ve got the unit playing and you’re performing
@jamespurveur6966
@jamespurveur6966 4 жыл бұрын
Dirty Secretz perfect, thanks for the replies.
@kisho2679
@kisho2679 Жыл бұрын
how can samples files be deleted on the Toraiz SP-16 itself?
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz Жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I tried it but you might be able to connect the SP-16 to your computer via USB and use it like an external hard drive.
@showbread9366
@showbread9366 Жыл бұрын
Yo I been wondering that wtf
@AndroLectric
@AndroLectric 5 жыл бұрын
TOP - Very good Tutorial :-)
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@creamy08shock
@creamy08shock 7 жыл бұрын
Can I ask please where I can find and down load samples ? Is there a website or anything where you get samples from? Thanks
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 7 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of sample websites you can buy samples from, I use splice.com quite a bit but you can also buy samples from Loopmasters.com, SampleMagic.com, Beatport.com and a whole load more. There are places on the web to get free samples from however you always want the highest quality samples to get the best sound at the end of the day.
@creamy08shock
@creamy08shock 7 жыл бұрын
Dirty Secretz Thank you for that!! And one more thing once the samples are downloaded do import / export them through rekordbox to quantize them?
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 7 жыл бұрын
creamy08shock nope, just drag n drop the samples onto a USB and plug it in!
@rashodlewis2918
@rashodlewis2918 4 жыл бұрын
@@DirtySecretz What is the Max size usb stick should I get? I have this machine on order.
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 4 жыл бұрын
@@rashodlewis2918 I'm not sure what the max size is, you might want to check the manual for that (see the Pioneer website for that), I use a 64gb stick for performing
@datboyfilmz1826
@datboyfilmz1826 4 жыл бұрын
When u put in the accapella can you add reverb or some delay in the topaz
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can put FX on any sound on any pad
@datboyfilmz1826
@datboyfilmz1826 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a great tool for us djs and producers
@chriskenne7754
@chriskenne7754 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mojodrum3215
@mojodrum3215 8 жыл бұрын
I was wondering is there a way you could sync the toraiz to the S8 probably by midi and using traktor. I have the S5 but it has no midi would you know how I could sync my Toraiz. Would both devices connected by usb to the computer using traktor work? Great video!
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 8 жыл бұрын
mojo drum I don't have it connected via midi at the moment, I wanted to demo how it worked without any kind of sync. You can use midi out on the S8 to sync tempo and it does work pretty well, not quite as seamless as Pioneer Link but it works :)
@chriskenne7754
@chriskenne7754 5 жыл бұрын
I am having trouble loading my samples i have a mac and usb and put the samples on it and put it in the toraiz and it shows the file but when i click it and it opens nothing is there what do i do ?
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds quite strange, possibly the audio file is in a format the Toraiz doesn’t recognise? Does it preview before you load it?
@chriskenne7754
@chriskenne7754 5 жыл бұрын
On the mac yes but not on the toraiz
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 5 жыл бұрын
I’d say it was a format issue then, are the samples in WAV format higher than 44.1khz? If so you might need to convert them
@chriskenne7754
@chriskenne7754 5 жыл бұрын
How do i do that then is there an easy way?
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 5 жыл бұрын
You’ll need to open them up in an audio editor, Audacity is a free one. You’ll need to open it and convert it in there - do a google for whatever editor you have to see how to do that.
@kisho2679
@kisho2679 3 жыл бұрын
des it have Ableton-Link?
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 3 жыл бұрын
No but it does have midi
@matthewchidgey4254
@matthewchidgey4254 7 жыл бұрын
Are you the actor Martin Freeman who played the character Tim Canterbury in the tv comedy “The Office”?
@jaysenbensonhousen9254
@jaysenbensonhousen9254 3 жыл бұрын
G'day mate. I'm using the Toraiz for live shows and agree its an amazing tool. But I'm also using it for production. A problem I have though, is when I 'render the audio' to output (when my track is finished), the sound is terrible when I play it on another device. The sound is great when I play directly out of the Toraiz into a hifi system or my headphones but as soon as I export it, it sounds bad. Is this because when I render the audio it doesn't carry the Dave Smith High/low pass filter in the save and therefore lacks drive?
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you're right, I think when you're exporting it doesn't go through any of the analogue circuitry it just bounces out the audio from the sequencer. I've never used this option myself, I usually always hook the SP-16 via audio and record it in directly to my DAW. I'll also often send an output from my DAW, into the input of the SP-16 and then back to the DAW again so I can run audio through the Dave Smith filters.
@jaysenbensonhousen9254
@jaysenbensonhousen9254 3 жыл бұрын
@@DirtySecretz Thanks mate for your reply. That makes sense.
@showbread9366
@showbread9366 Жыл бұрын
Maybe resample first
@thetwinkleturnip
@thetwinkleturnip 3 жыл бұрын
That is a really shiny door.
@Mikepepp2
@Mikepepp2 8 жыл бұрын
I really wish they would stop pushing this as just for dj' s kinda forcing themselves to stay in their lane. I bought mines instead of the akai mpc live because akai is known for bugs and screwing their buyers. That being said I love the potential of the sp 16. BUT. For all the shiny lights and pretty screens it's missing some major things that a sampler from the 80's can do better. No creating user sample folders, no making personal kits, i can edit samples by ear faster on my Korg ESX 1 with 2 knobs and be more precise. Workarounds should not have to be made for a 1500 machine. I have pretty much every hardware groovebox and the sp 16 takes way too long from sample to chop, to add to track. Hope they get better with next update. And yes I am a dj/producer/artist Was hoping the sp would bridge the gap. Or Mabey I will get the live also who knows ?
@DirtySecretz
@DirtySecretz 8 жыл бұрын
Mikepepp2 This is the reason I think the SP-16 is suited mostly for DJs, not as a piece of production equipment. There is hardware much better, much more precise for production but where the SP-16 shines is its simplicity and when you're DJing, you need that. It may be a little fiddly to edit samples but I think in future software updates that could be improved. It's not perfect but it's the first iteration, no doubt they'll get better as time goes on. Have to agree on price, it is quite hefty but just matches up with other Pioneer products I guess!
@Mikepepp2
@Mikepepp2 8 жыл бұрын
Dirty Secretz yeah it is easy to use I just see the potential of the unit and I really hate akai any chance I can get to make better music on a non akai product I take it. It's is still early was just future forecasting I can see a proper work station , sampling , sequencing , pioneer selling sound kit packs of drums,synths and all and still , taking care of the dj im still a vinyl dj ,so if they get this right everybody wins. Keep up the good work like your stuff.
@djsinless
@djsinless 7 жыл бұрын
Dirty Secretz Great vid!
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