Is THIS Toilet System BETTER Than What's in 99% of Homes? (Tankless Wall Hung Toilet Installation)

Hey Gang! Today we're installing our tankless (in wall) toilet system! Believe it or not, this tech has been around for a while, but they've improved on it so much, it rivals ease of install for traditional toilets and gives you way more perks than one. We can't wait to see this thing in action for the garage, so we can decide if this is our new go to system!
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Bowl - amzn.to/3PqaiYZ
In Wall System - amzn.to/45YAvVJ
Washlet Connection Adapter - amzn.to/46cyBAg
Spyder hole saw kit for wood: amzn.to/3Zm6nkx
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[@computerjantje]

You have no idea how great it is to leave the little mistakes in. The mistakes teach us more then the installation it self.

[@poorlightingwithor1943]

Paul is a beast, I hope Jordan knows how lucky he is to have a dad with that kind of experience and heart.

[@lhfloors]

I agree who pays him ?

[@jukeplays7572]

Yeah I don't have a dad sooo

[@MKrang-hn3re]

@@jukeplays7572right! Is nice to see what could have been 👍🏽 keep it up!

[@kylemcweeny878]

Absolutely ultimate dad

[@Gucc63]

I’m wondering when Paul can take over filming and we see Jordan building his awesome house

[@yilmazma]

I installed the same model about two years ago. Added a stainless sheet metal on back side and it saved a lot of headache later. One note: When you cut the pipes connecting the bowl to the wall unit, better to cut them a little longer than they indicate, if they are short even a little bit, it will leak.

[@garyganser2451]

Yeah, if you mean the stainless provides access, I agree. The proprietary parts could mean replacing the whole thing at some point.

[@UpcraftConsulting]

I put one of these in wall tanks in myself in the last house. There was a very small en-suite bathroom that was not using the limited space very well. I remember measuring everything for this toilet a million times then dry fitting it and measuring a few dozen more times. It turned out fantastic, freed up so much space we were able to turn a bad layout into something amazing. Took a small phonebooth 36" shower into a relatively big 60"x 36" shower by relocating the toilet.

[@richardneville3731]

I measure once for a regular toilet.

[@jakefriesenjake]

​@@richardneville3731if I just walk outdoors to take a dump, I only need to measure how far. I usually take 10 paces, then drop trou. Sometimes I measure the product, but it doesn't have to be accurate.

[@Dbb27]

@@jakefriesenjake😂 good grief!

[@bawillard2578]

A ok real nice

[@u2bist]

Anybody who thinks construction people just pound nails and don't deserve to make a lot of money should watch videos like this. This guy uses his brains to solve problems as much as I used mine as a software developer.

[@degrom542]

I installed the same Toto in two of my bathrooms four years ago and we absolutely love them. It makes the bathroom a little more sanitary without the toilet tank and being able to clean underneath. Great choice !

[@StudPack]

How’s the water level In the bowl itself?

[@degrom542]

@@StudPack Water level has never been an issue . Never had a back up while the last bowl was always backing up . Maybe because there's less curves with the Toto as compared to a traditional bowl .

[@brianseehafer]

Curious about cleaning. With the seat and the bidet, is that area easy to clean? Currently have an aftermarket bidet and it’s a challenge to keep it clean.

[@garyganser2451]

It is self cleaning for the nozzles. There is a small reusable filter to remember. Otherwise not much more than a plain toilet seat. Since the area where it attaches is bigger, I imagine there is more that could accumulate under it, but I dont want the wear out or break the clips by removing the seat too often.

[@boons8102]

I’ve had a Toto for 6 year now, and it leaks like crazy, I constantly her my wife smashing the button after the first flush got stuck and it’s now just dumping water into the bowl. I’ve tried maintenancing it, I’ve called plumbers to fix it (not many know what to do), and I’ve asked Toto to fix it, they want me to buy a $400 part. For $400 I could have a new toilet. Don’t do it waste of your time and money. PS go screw yourself Toto

[@haroldpeperkamp2030]

Over here in Europe we have been installing these reservoirs for about 25 years. You need a solid plywood covering or Fermacell for the tiles. A sound dampening mat makes sure there in no chirping or cracking of tiles by the bowls porcelain. Geberit is a major supplier and these things are super reliable. 😊

[@GameOn82]

Exactly, I have few of these Geberit ones for the last 15 years. The only thing that brakes is a little rubber gasket inside that is easily fixed for couple of bucks and 15 minutes. Other than that they are almost indestructible.

[@houmus649]

Exactly, it's just adding more ways for shit 2 go wrong.

[@RocRizzo]

These toilets are all over Europe. They use less water, and the only ones that need electricity are the luxury ones.

[@g.work.specials6859]

​@webbcityfilmsthese systems do not need electrics. Only when you use a bidet with heated seats. They even have systems in place so you can add the water supply later on, when the bidet becomes needed of old age or sickness.

[@joeg4306]

We traveled to 7 countries in Europe this year. These toilets aren't as reliable for flushing consistently as the ones we have back home. Some only have a small 3 inch button in the wall. No way to service without breaking the tile wall open...

[@REXOB9]

Glad you guys include mistakes and adjustments in your videos. That's how life really works.

[@hrcnick11]

Those are not mistakes they are happy little trees! But I agree it’s nice to see real world and not perfect every time.

[@craigchatterton4164]

@@hrcnick11 Nice channelling Bob Ross! Thanks for the laugh today, I needed it. 😁

[@jhskeen]

Yeah as a guy who has no idea what he’s doing but gets involved in diy projects it’s so reassuring to see pros have obstacles too.

[@wllmsp9338]

Lived in Italy for about 6 years where in-wall tanks are common. I still own an apartment outside of Milan with one of these. Yes, they save space. But they're an UNBELIEVABLE hassle if anything goes wrong with the hardware in or connected to the tank (i.e. pulling tile and/or drywall if it's major). Freestanding toilets in the US may take up a little more room, but are stupid easy to service if any parts wear out.

[@patty109109]

Yeah…watching this video it just seems kind of absurd to me. Also this unit won’t work on an exterior wall due to lack of insulation.

[@easyx9mm]

Some of the best how to videos on KZbin. I always learn a lot. Most importantly kind, loving relationship between father and a son. Something lots of us never had with our fathers. Encourages me to be better to my kids. Great job guys!

[@donwold1622]

I appreciate the honesty in your videos. Not scripting and editing to make everything look like a walk in the park. Problems, challenges, and changes are the true normal. Thank you!

[@MichaelGalletly]

I love watching you guys because you explain everything you're doing and why. I'll probably never do a recessed toilet in my life, but I understand the process now.

[@deanwilliams8857]

Quality work as always. That sound reminded me of when I had to milk cows as a kid. Funny when you told Jordan to put his hand into the pipe.

[@manelson4338]

Never say never!

[@TheSulross]

can't help having power tool envy - they have a power tool to suit every situation

[@ThinkerOnTheBus]

You may believe that they explain everything that they do in their videos, along with providing the reasons for performing each step of a job, but that may be because when one of the few times they happen to leave out an explanation for one of the steps within a project/job, you easily overlook it because you already knew how to perform that step, and you already knew that the project/job would involve said step, while the steps which you didn't know how to perform, or were unaware that the project/job would involve said step, were times when the did provide an explanation, and a reason. I never heard them explain what they were doing to the water line with that power tool at 28:20, nor what purpose it served. If you are feeling a little charitable, then perhaps you can give me a short, and basic explanation of what they did, and why. Help the curious to expand their awareness, and knowledge! You shouldn't feel obligated to do so, and I won't hold anything against you, if you don't . . . for I am but a stranger to whom you owe nothing.

[@anthonyerba3687]

@Thinker...that tool is something Paul and Jordan picked up on their last Louisiana bathroom job...it flares the PEX end large enough to fit over the brass male end, then the PEX shrinks in place to create a watertight seal around the brass male end. They used that method quite a bit to install the two shower valves in that LA bathroom.

[@jeffp7958]

I just installed that same toilet on our bathroom addition. You gave me advice on using subfloor on the walls around a pocket door that is goes in behind the shower tiled wall. (I learned to tile and Kerdi from you also) Walls are super strong and don’t bounce at all! Thanks for that advice guys, it worked out awesome. I’ve picked up several tips from you guys. Even bought the jig for installing drawer pulls I saw you use. Great info, awesome of you to share your knowledge.

[@StudPack]

That's awesome Jeff, much appreciated 👊💪

[@nicholasguess6894]

Seeing the pride on your face to be working alongside your son and teaching him is something special. You're a fortunate man, sir.

[@matth7621]

I wish I would have had someone to teach me construction like this. For many reasons, but mostly, even though I know this stuff can get frustrating, it's therapeutic to work through troubleshooting stuff like this and leaves a great sense of satisfaction when you see the finished product. I really like that you get to see them in the learning process and it's not just "We're pros so everything is a cake walk." Picked up one more sub today!

[@michaelsparks6084]

Great job boys! A little tip for next time, curl the rubber over to expose the stop on your No Hub and place the outlet pipe and flip the rubber back up or use a little soapy water to help things along. Oh and please don’t tighten that brass pex adapter to tight as the brass female adapter could split and cause you a world of hurt. Plumbers creed, tight, too tight and just right! Oh and of course do a good leak check on all your connections before you cover things up! Sparks Plumbing Since 1988

[@Grunt49]

I thought pipe dope on top of teflon tape might lead to overtightening?

[@twl10101]

Throw the teflon tape away, use Rectorseal #5 and just snug it up. Been using it on all types of threaded pressure fittings for 30+ years and never had a leak. @@Grunt49

[@Mike_H76]

Would you prefer to see a coupling and glue instead of the rubber? I feel I trust a glued solid union over rubber when it's trapped in the wall. Also any problem with condensation putting a tank in the wall? I love the idea for flooring, ease of cleaning and aesthetics... but I think I'd only use one where I have an interior wall that I could have a full sized access panel to the back. Signed, NotAPlumber

[@joepro3562]

Good thinking, a sweating tank would mean all was that work and expense was for naught. @@Mike_H76

[@ThinkerOnTheBus]

I do appreciate anyone that helps others, especially when they share knowledge freely that has been gained through experience. With that said, I had to point out that I dig the irony in the name of your business, "Sparks Plumbing", and how it borders on the realm of being an oxymoron. I realize it was derived in a simple manner that merely combined your surname with the type of business you have. It may be a basic formula for naming a business, but it works, time-tested and true, and in your case, I do believe that the basic formula managed to unintentionally inject a little humor, and a hint of pizazz, into your business name, which is a rare result from such a basic formula. if I needed to hire a plumber to do some emergency work, or a really huge job, and I discovered there was a local plumber with a business named "Sparks Plumbing", then there would be a decent chance that I would hire you based mainly upon your name alone!!!

[@wojciechbartczak3109]

Hey Guys! This system is quite popular in part of the Europe I live in. You could use some plywood to create the flush surface with your sill plate. Only thing would be to keep the distance within standard thickness of plywood or any other material you would use for that. Plus cutting some holes to match installation points on the steel frame. But in general, thumbs up!

[@mazes8931]

Yeah I was just wondering what's so special about this system. Looks similar to any Geberit system that we have here for more than 30 years. Or am I missing some special feature here?

[@mikezimmermann89]

I love watching you guys adapt and work through issues. It’s great that you include the “oopsies” and tweaks that make it all work. I ESPECIALLY love watching the two of you working together… it reminds me so much of the years my dad and I did exactly this sort of thing together. Great memories! The BIG difference is that we worked in the 70s and 80s… you guys have WAAAY COOLER tools, hardware, and tech to work with than we did.

[@MrTbowow]

I remember my uncle built porches and used old non electrical tools. Talk about being satisfied with a job when you are done.

[@flagmichael]

One thing to consider in retrofitting an old installation (not the subject of this video, but a warning to those who are updating) is the sewage line drop. Where I worked all the toilets - 11 in total - were replaced with modern low flow toilets in a single week. It was a couple months later that things went wrong. Our site (a service yard for our electric company) was originally constructed around the turn of the 20th century. It turns out the 200 foot sewage run to the city system had a drop much lower than the modern standard, and had to be cleaned out every other month or so with the low flow toilets. The long line, coupled with only a single hose bib to provide water, meant the cleanout could be done in one day if caught early... otherwise two days every few months. How about replacing it with a line with a greater drop? The main was not low enough in any case. I retired soon after this debacle so I don't know how they resolved it.

[@douglarue8485]

bought and old house, cleaned it up and started renting it out but first brought in a guy to snake all the drains and video the main. First thing he said when entering the bathroom was to NOT get rid of the toilet and put in a low flow or else he'd be getting called a lot for clogs. Cast iron main and drop aren't good for low flow. Maybe a liner on the main would help those with low flow and repeated clogging issues.

[@SmallWonda]

Double flush, maybe! These economies can cause many issues in the out of sight out of mind sewer systems...

[@mikes-wv3em]

vote for orange jesus and never double flush again! @@SmallWonda

[@johng4093]

Lack of enough gravity drop meant I had to put in a sump pump to help push it to sewer.

[@chrisprice2200]

I installed a Coroma wall hung in our home, and several for clients. Mines been installed for 7 years. About 2 years ago, you could tell it was running a little on its own. A five minute job, to pop off the controls, and all the internals come out with a quarter turn (too-less). A quick rinse in the sink, and all was good. We really like how much space it saves, and especially how easy it is to clean around. We’re in the middle of building a new home for ourselves, and both the toilets will be wall hung.

[@itsfonk]

Never have I been so intrigued by a toilet. You must do a full review after the first year!

[@sillygooseisloose]

They suck, read my retort if you are interested

[@user-ls2vi6xg2m]

Retired carpenter here. Ask your engineer if you need a header plus hangers added in that bearing wall where you moved the 2x6 studs. Easiest to do now up under the double top plate to carry that unsupported truss tail. Really enjoy your videos. Thank you for doing them!

[@user-entangled]

Using the rear slot on the metal frame when attaching the discharge appears to allow a flush mount of the frame without the need to cut the sub-floor and wedge the PVC forward.

[@philipngai5910]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@Elevator2TheTop]

I was drawn to the video by the toilet. Discovered a great father/son duo, and reminded me so much of my times working together with my Dad on our "projects". Lifetime memories, and this brought a warm smile to my face. God bless you both!

[@magics850]

I’m a plumber here in the gulf coast (destin) and you guys always do a fantastic job. The installation processes was top notch. Keep up the good work guys and keep killin it.

[@Dbb27]

Just came back from a vacay in Destin. What a beautiful place! Lived in SE FL my adult life, every time I tried visiting the panhandle had to turn back due to storms. I was blown away how beautiful the beach is.

[@magics850]

@@Dbb27 Destin is beautiful, the only thing I hate about it is the traffic. The one way in and one way out gets really annoying during the summer, but other then that there’s no crime, beautiful beaches. We can’t complain.

[@bricklearns]

Might be nice do do a brass extension tube on the inlet so you can more easily inspect/attach the pex

[@brianm8642]

These videos get better and better. It's become a GREAT source for learning about cool upgrades for all us DIY mortals.

[@DavidJ-b9k]

You guys are great. I love the father/son interaction. My dad and I are tight and my son and I are tight,and have worked on many things together. Thank you for always being so patient and professional and refraining from the foul language. Your channel is a pleasure to watch as well as very informative. Thank you much!

[@barrettabney]

Amen on the clean communication channels. It's a sign of intelligence to hear clean language without foul fillers.

[@JeffNolan]

I use these for tight spaces but they are a real PITA when you have a problem. Also, pay close attention to the height when you are mounting the hardware in the wall. Take into account subfloor and flooring thickness. They are neat, but not without issues.

[@theadventuresoffatcat8345]

I installed one of these in our ensuite about six months ago. The decision was mostly driven because of the extra room it would give us to the shower entry. Although pricey, Toto is a quality product, no doubt. Some observations: mine fit into a 2x4 wall with no issues, when modifying the stud wall, I also used PL Premium and glued studs together AND to the back wall. Also, even if you're not installing a bidet seat, do install a dedicated circuit beside the toilet if possible. I put my receptacle on the right side so the plug and cord are not so visible when you walk into the bathroom. Although not shown in this video, my instructions called for a double plate on top of the in-wall unit as well. Just found this channel, Stud Pack... awesome vids!!

[@guspaz]

I don't think that anybody should build or renovate a bathroom, wall hung toilet or not, without a power outlet next to the toilet. Maybe you don't put a washlet in today, but it'll be a heck of a lot easier to add one later if there's already a power outlet there. For many people, It's the difference between being able to install a washlet by yourself and needing to hire an electrician to retrofit one. I had to pay CDN$250 to add one, and it would have been a lot more expensive if the electrician hadn't already been here installing a minisplit air conditioner.

[@T_Jonesy]

You're going to love the toto washlet bidet. The heated seat is the best thing ever, even in a warm climate. We have one in our powder room and everyone raves over how cool the toilet is. My husband calls it the Star Sh*t Enterprise. Another great video. This has definitely become my favorite series to follow on KZbin. Cheers!

[@Dampalicious]

one thing to think about jordan is a window directly above your toilet will give you a glare on your phone while you watch youtube and drop a deuce, atleast when you stand to take a leak you can provide neighborhood watch!

[@HenrikNordberg]

We have had these wall hung Totos for 12 years and I would definitely do it again! Only difference seems to be ours have red frames. One of them has needed small adjustments to the big vs small flush buttons, but that was easy and we were able to do that ourselves. The other one has been rock solid and has required no adjustments. The reason I originally got them was I wanted our Roomba to be able to clean the bathroom floors well. But they look good as well and are low- to no- maintenance. Just be sure to mount them high enough so the robot vacuums can do their job.

[@BlueDart1971]

As a plumber we despise them for the most part. If installed properly they are okay but in time your wall will probably come out to get it solid again.

[@rupertguy2560]

My cheap, stupid toilet, 45 years old, that I put in the house when I built it had it's first maintenance this year, a new flush valve that I paid under $40 for....what do You think will be the maintenance history of this toilet, with offshore electrical parts?...and will those parts be available, when needed?.....how to overthink one of the simplest/most reliable tools that Man has created....

[@pdillon5623]

I installed 3 of the TOTO in-wall tank toilets 3 years ago when we built our house. My wife especially likes the ease of cleaning the tile floor under the toilet. We also raised the toilet to around 18" above finished floor, which was just barely high enough to allow for the base molding on the wall under the toilet. One comment - you do not have to install the CLEANSING feature for the toilet seat. They sell the toilet without this and it simplifies the install significantly. No electrical outlet and the water connection to the tank is simple.

[@ronpossick]

Butt washer is great especially after shoulder surgery.

[@pepperypeppers2755]

That's like buying a Lamborghini and installing fabric seats. Bidets are incredible, have fun buying tp

[@rsecord]

Hey guys, 1st that is one fancy pooper! 2nd, for the main house and pex in garage, they make rub protectors that should be used on place where uponor pex runs through stud cavities. Chef makes the one I use and you may be able to do now before wall close up. Also get 90 degree bends with screw blocks. Something that took me a few years to perfect, size your home run pex lines correctly, 3/8 for those eco faucets and toilet, 1/2 for showers, laundry, hose bibs. I always put in a 3/4 pex for hot water loop. I still follow rules for runs off loop. Keep up the content, I always interesting seeing how other contractors are doing things.

[@FindLiberty]

good tips!

[@weremodel]

Installed a inwall tank in conjunction with a back to the wall-floor supported bowl. All the size advantages for a small room but no need for heavy wall framing to handle the carrier and bowl person weight. Only drawback is being able to clean under. Bowl was caulked and sealed. Really enjoy your stuff. 47 years in the trades, still doing it and still learning from people like you. Thanks.

[@mcsmama]

Maybe I misunderstood... why is being able to clean under it a drawback? [9.25.2023]

[@weremodel]

I meant to say that not being able to clean the floor under it is the only drawback but if you keep up on the caulking around the base of the bowl then all is okay.@@mcsmama

[@mcsmama]

TY. :) @@weremodel

[@therighthandmann]

We started using Toto toilets as "specified" for master bath on all of our build jobs 25 years ago. It's also our "recommended" move-up on master bath remodels. Surprised how many people went with Toto on ALL toilets despite the higher price. A wise investment. This "in wall" model looks like a winner as well.

[@joepangean6770]

One word "Covid19" was the impetus to install Totos in every bathroom. The marketplace scarcity of toilet paper made conversion to Washlets attractive. And the best benefits were the comfort of heated seats and cleanliness. The ONLY issue noticed was missing the Toto experience when traveling and using other bathrooms without Washlets.

[@therighthandmann]

@joepangean6770 Only about 10% of Toto models come with a washlet (and the rinse water warming feature). Typically, it's an add-on from a different source. The advantage to Toto is its ability to evacuate the bowl better than most other brands - even when the waste material contains a lot of toilet paper. Also, the low-flush option for liquid only is popular.

[@keithhall4009]

@@joepangean6770we have stayed at Garza Blanca resort in Cabo San Lucas, the last two Christmas vacations. Every master toilet in the hotel has the Toto washlet with heated seats. They’re great! When I built my shop a few years back, I put one in as well, it’s nice to have a heated “throne” out in the shop.

[@elbuggo]

I would prefer TECE cisterns, instead of Toto. They can flush 2.5 gallon. Everyone else have less, and some can only flush 1 gallon.

[@robertlitman2661]

I now have two Toto wall hung toilets in my home. They're great systems. There is ZERO need to have the waste pipe be plumb below. In fact, the wall carrier allows you to swing the pipe as far as 45 degrees. As for the bolt holes on the side of the bowl, they sell a different (skirted type) bowl that has hidden fasteners that are tightened from underneath. Also, I don't think you'll have issues, but deviate from the framing plan at your own risk.

[@okanaganlakeman7384]

if you think 1300 is a lot for toilet. just pay your self 20$ every time you dont have to clean around that nasty silicone on the floor. best upgrade i made during my reno.

[@robertlitman2661]

@@okanaganlakeman7384 Yup. Just mop it all up. And if you're fortunate enough to have a corresponding floor drain, it gets even easier. And while you CAN find these $1300 toilets with auto-flush and auto seat open/close, you can save some if you pick a more modestly featured model, since a lot of that cost is in the top end washlet.

[@GloriaLynch-c4k]

What a refreshing change from all the super-clever, slick, and pro vids out there. As a renovator (now retired) I thoroughly enjoyed watching what so many others in this situation have to deal with: Something new, and no recourse to previous experience... and 'flying by the seat' to make things fit. Thanks so much for this guide (although I doubt I'll ever need to go through the process now).

[@reallunacy]

Make sure to use some foam around those pipes to help seal between upstairs and downstairs. You've done such a great job of it so far, I'd hate to see that reduce your blower door score.

[@zenrook1]

29:25 - Seal gap

[@danielsmith7935]

Fire caulk? I am sure they will be required anyways

[@zenrook1]

@@danielsmith7935 I've never heard of Fire caulk.

[@danielsmith7935]

@@zenrook1 in Michigan its required to seal cavities from each other to slow the spread of fire. Everywhere you penetrate a deck or fire blocking it seals it up. Sorry called fire barrier sealant on Menards site and about 15 bucks a tube.

[@rsecord]

@@danielsmith7935 there is always fire stop foam (the orange stuff). Unfortunately I got to test its fire rated abilities on my personal house. Worked better then advertised. We have same code requirements as does Texas.

[@stevenhaff3332]

Very impressed with your install and willingness to continue filming when changes have to be made. Everyone watching will make mistakes so it is really helpful to see how you manage redoing tasks and rethinking how things have to be done.

[@trvman1]

So when something goes wrong with the tank, you will have to remove the drywall to repair/replace it? If so, then I will stick with what we have been using since indoor plumbing :) Plus, most people can remove and install a new toilet themselves.

[@proudbacteria1373]

@@trvman1 I see that toilet systems in public toilets in Europe an Asia with insanely heavy use.

[@cavemanly4479]

Thanks for keeping in all the struggles that come with the install. Real life, no edits! It’s always something!

[@WorthlessNickores]

I'm SO jealous! Zip system, 2X6's, steep pitch, cathedral ceiling wow what a build! This is done right with attention to detail and style. Nice job man.

[@NickorAndJooKeeler]

Really informative, thanks for the link. . .

[@shepsbarbershop9720]

This is the way it goes when building, changes that are made cause small issues that need to be overcome. I love the fact you showed the changes you needed to make to make the plumbing work. I imagine it will be easier when you know you are installing this toilet when you do the framing.

[@Chipotle661944]

I've always thought the old wax ring and toilet flange with the two puny bolts was about 100 years overdue for a modern replacement! That system looks like it could be a winner.

[@grizzlygrizzle]

I'm not so sure. A lot of "first-world-problems" jokes come to mind when I hear the justifications for something as complicated and expensive as this.

[@Marvinfj32]

wax never impressed me but many have tried to replace it without success .

[@rayRay-pw6gz]

Only time will tell . The secret may be in a very strong installation and easy access for replacement. All new homes should also have water filters on main inlet.

[@mike-sk2li]

The 100+ year old toilet is simple, cheap and just plain work's. Nothing wrong with this new design just makes thing's more complicated and expensive.

[@rayRay-pw6gz]

@@mike-sk2li and what kind of standard toilet can you spend $2,500 ( parts & installation) ? 😏

[@richperrone8892]

I am addicted to watching your videos. I look forward to each. You guys are "real" and that is not something you see to often.

[@vtecispower]

Watched this old house for years and really enjoyed it but studpack is actually teaching me the applied applications in real world scenarios, thank you guys.

[@Marvinfj32]

this old house got too like an infomercial.

[@Schuqueen004]

I used the Toto toilet when I converted a tiny powder bath into a full wet bath. Tiled the entire space. A lot of details to get it done correctly but so worth it. The toilet is now inside the shower. Added a Waterproof medicine cabinet and tiny corner sink both from Amazon. Works perfectly! Very cool looking too.

[@keithneal3253]

Love/ agree with the approach to “what if”. Also love the toilet - very cool. If buying I would prefer to see PEX and not copper against the outside wall. The valentines freeze in Texas taught us that insulated copper pipe against outside walls can be trouble. PEX and it’s expansion capabilities were not a leak issue.

[@joeg9920]

Bolt the toilet carrier frame straight thru those double 2x6 studs. Also lock down the studs with hurricane plates to the floor and ceiling plates. You'll need as much anchoring support you can get to prevent the movement of the toilet as it gets plenty of use. Those bolts you used I don't think that they're going to cut it. Nice video!

[@rusosure7]

BTW, if you use PEX-B, you can pre-attach a section to the wall unit, pass it through the studs, and then use an elbow to mate to the supply from the floor, AND have room to crimp.

[@katiedotson704]

I've been interested in the in-wall toilet for quite a while. My first thought was to design the finished wall so that a removable panel could be placed in front of the hidden mechanicals for easy access without tearing out and then replacing the wall. If you are replacing an existing toilet, don't cover the old toilet hole that is in the floor. Make sure there is a trap directly beneath the hole, and then put a brass drain plate flush with the floor on that hole. You now have a floor drain should the toilet or anything else in the bathroom overflow. This would keep water from seeping to an adjoining room and prevent ceiling damage to rooms located below the bathroom.

[@montgomeryfortenberry]

As long as you add a trap and you might have to add some water periodically so it doesnt get smelly

[@18_rabbit]

@@montgomeryfortenberry katie wrote "make s ure there is a trap directly beneath" hole. Thing is, if in the ground, we hope the trap long ago was done right, though i guess it has to be if there was never an issue. But i can imagine many ppl not wanting a drain on the floor, for various reasons, namely asthetic, regardless of how wise it is, and it IS wise!

[@Marvinfj32]

Not bashing at all, I like him. Roll the rubber down on the drain pipe, then put the pipe in. Always keep any pipe isolated from the wood. It can create squeaks or noise transmission. I like the whole system. I'm retired plumber 20 yrs now. So much has changed.

[@Bewiea4]

I appreciate the explanations and including the "bloopers" of working through the process of figuring it out. Love watching the progress you guys are making.

[@davilajonathan79]

So excited for the video. The bait and switch of the last post had me sad earlier in the week. :)

[@imkey]

you should also consider roughing in some kind of toilet drain header in case in future you want to go to traditional toilet. easy enough to cap it off for time being.

[@garysaunders342]

Fixing issues that you run into is a talent all by itself

[@InfoDav]

You guys are easily the best-in-class on KZbin. Always interesting and the editing is very well done.

[@StudPack]

Thanks infodav!!

[@dumbluck6180]

I love how you show the realities of tackling projects, especially when doing something for the first time. Many people don''t understand how difficult it can be. For example, you had to move the studs, flip the hub because the clamp screws were in the way, move the PEX, move the drain line... I do handyman work, and customers don't always understand why I'll only work hourly on some jobs (vs. a bid), because you never know what you'll find when you must open a wall, take down a cabinet, etc., especially in older homes. You run into all kinds of crazy stuff previous owners have done that either doesn't meet code or is downright dangerous. Big thanks for showing real life, even on new construction. Been there, done that! 🤣

[@debracisneroshhp2827]

Yeah, I'm guessing cuz sometimes, as in this case the toilet, it could be an afterthought item that wasn't factored into the original build plans. 😛😺

[@TH-eb5ro]

In a couple of the places I lived in Asia they had this system. Even the tub pipes were easy access. They put a matching cover panel that fits perfect and can be removed for maintenance.

[@robd6709]

I installed a Toto in-wall toilet like this in our bathroom remodel 10 years ago. Our bathroom is 4'x8' with a shower at one end. A round toilet would have us hitting our knees on the opposite wall. The Toto in-wall toilet solved the problem, was an easy install, and hasn't given a second of trouble since installation.

[@yungbroc]

when you guys get to the appliance part of this build i would absolutely love to see the washer and dryer vent installation. as a chimney sweep who also cleans dryer vents very often, there are some houses we come across where it seems like the vent was a last minute thought. examples are: the gas line installed far from where the dryer is, the in-wall vent system being no where near the dryer's exhaust etc. to give you an idea, ideally the dryer should be able to be pulled out about 4 feet from the wall and easily accessed in order to reach the gas line as well as dryer vent exhaust system. i know its trickier said than done, but by the way you guys have been building this house so far, it would make whoever comes to clean that system so much easier in the future. thanks for all the videos and shared knowledge i appreciate your guys' work and "future proofing" methods for whoever may come after you

[@pauldavisthefirst]

No need for a dryer vent. Use a heat pump dryer (e.g. a Miele), and you just need a small drain line to get rid of the condensate. They are slower than conventional dryers, it is true, but they use so much less energy.

[@rsanders1413]

I completely agree the heat pump dryer is far superior and has much, much less future dryer vent maintenance. If you are going with a conventional vented dryer check out MagVent. It can be recessed into the wall during framing for a much better installation and super easy dryer vent connections and maintenance. It saves the hassle of squirming into very tight place to attach 4 feet of accordion dryer vent that always gets crushed and leaks. @@pauldavisthefirst

[@debracisneroshhp2827]

@@pauldavisthefirst , When you say "slower" do you mean it takes longer to dry the clothes? Or the tumbler moves more slowly? 😺

[@pauldavisthefirst]

@@debracisneroshhp2827 longer to dry clothes

[@curtdawe]

Doing great, guys! I think that toilet is gonna be ahead of the pack! Paul, make sure you're not over-exerting yourself, especially in the heat. You three are grinding pretty hard lately. Being guys, when we want to accomplish something, we can sometimes neglect that we need rest. Jordan, keep an eye on your dad. He's a great guy, with a lot of heart and professionalism.

[@FindLiberty]

Jordan, please talk Paul into getting a heart scan (Calcium Score) test! $200? That's not a stress test; it's money well spent to pinpoint/spot and maybe even "bypass" a potential problem BEFORE _unrepairable,_ *permanent* damage to the heart muscle occurs. It's the one muscle that does not "grow back" and instead, a severely damaged area only turns into useless scar tissue. Measure twice, cut once!

[@brizbgarcia1]

This is perfect timing as I am remodeling a small bathroom and will be using this system. Surprisingly I could not find actual installs of the Toto system on KZbin, so this was refreshing (plus it's from my favorite construction channel). IRC requires a water closet to be 30" x 60", but if using a wall mounted toilet the long dimension drops to 56". Besides having a bidet (which is amazing), having the toilet off of the ground helps with cleaning. The model toilet you have has those openings for easier installation and there are no covers. You probably wanted CT426CFGT40#01, which includes the hole for the bidet line and wiring. The frame model you have looks like it includes autoflush. I'll be insterested to follow the final install. Are you going to add 1/2 ply to the front prior to finishing off the wall for stability? I did wince a bit when you went to install the pex A through the hole. I have been doing some pex A as part of the remodel and have had the ring shrink prior to getting full seating. So annoying. Going 10 clicks is the way to go. Keep up the fine work.

[@moonbeamjones9888]

toto install video youtube europe

[@WhirlybirdFlyer]

Just a tip for you when you are using rubber couplings on drain pipe. Use a little silicone grease on the pipe and coupling and it will slip right together. Petroleum based greases can degrade the rubber so don't use Vaseline or anything like that but silicone grease is made for that application and you can get it at any plumbing supply.

[@ArtGc-v7s]

Good material for learning how to install a built-in toilet system, in Europe this system has been a standard for many years.

[@chrisgemmix0815]

It's really funny to see this toilet system described as new, but I enjoy seeing the excitement.🙂 My aunt and uncle had pretty much exactly this installed in their new built home in the 1970s. Back then it was a bit posh. In the last 20 years I haven't installed any other type of toilet anymore. That's in Europe, though.

[@lohikarhu734]

well, you know, USA is always so ahead of Europe...;-) The coolest toilets come from Japan, it seems...

[@brada1997]

Lol that's about exactly what I just said

[@miles5600]

@@lohikarhu734japanese toilets that’re still floor mounted and do the same exact thing as a wall mounted toilet, just one different: wall mounted ones look much more modern.

[@djijspeakerguy4628]

Yeah, I vacationed to Europe a few times and saw these exact toilet systems in almost every bathroom I was in. They seemed especially prevalent in the Netherlands. I also remember seeing “wave hand across sensor to flush” versions in the U.K. I always thought they looked nicer than our usual tank toilets in the U.S. however, I always seriously questioned their repairability due to being behind a wall. On our normal toilet tanks in the U.S, the top just lifts off and gives you direct access to the parts that could need replacement!

[@xamarinmaster1403]

Thank you so much for the return of the high production quality style! It is really night and day difference. This video was just fantastic!

[@chrissyria2376]

Have you considered plumbing in central vac? I added it to my house and it's definitely nicer than a regular vac, especially with sweep inlets in the kitchen. Absolutely a highlight of my week when a new ep drops - keep up the good work.

[@brassmule]

I bet they'd have room in that big utility closet, too.

[@StudPack]

Maybe for the main house

[@TonnyToech]

Nice video, in most of Europe (where I have relatives) they have in wall tank toilets like this, but they build with AAC blocks that don't leave open cavities like our traditional wood framing. This usually means you have to build out a fake wall on whatever side of the bathroom you want your toilet to hang, which sort of defeats the purpose of having a wall hung toilet like this. The hung toilet does allow for a cleaner floor as dust and dirt aren't clinging around that "tough to clean" porcelain frame of traditional floor mount toilets. Great job, btw!

[@swedishpsychopath8795]

Thank you Norway for inventing stuff.

[@jimc3891]

Besides gaining space with the wall hung toilet, if you do the same with a vanity it gives you the entire floor space for in floor heating. A simple rectangular run without the setbacks for the heating wire around the toilet and vanity base.

[@hrcnick11]

Heated floors in TX? More likely to need cooled floors! But that would come in handy up here in Michigan. Great point.

[@gui577b]

Having a vanity without an undersink cabinet sounds cool but it's terrible for actually living with.

[@jimc3891]

@@gui577b you can still have a vanity cabinet. It is hung from the wall just like the toilet with floor space under it.

[@agentp92115]

Make sure to use a can of spray foam to seal up any penetrations that are made between the garage ceiling and the bathroom floor above. This goes double for the old hole that was left behind when you moved the water line, and the new expanded hole that you cut in for the sewer line. Great videos! Many thanks!

[@bobh6728]

I would put something soft between the pipes and the wood. The floor and wall will act as an amplifier of any water noise if they are firmly touching.

[@LeWoodmeister]

"Arctic winters in Texas." LOL. In Canada, we would likely only install a toilet like that on an interior wall. I know I would.

[@adamphillips6747]

This video is why I went to my new build everyday and made notes. The days of measure twice cut once is gone. So much work to fix things.

[@NileJ]

If you do these on the house build add a wall cleanout to the stack. So the toilet doesn't need to be removed for snaking 13:52

[@Ransomed77]

Thanks for the video! I've started to see more of these toilets and have been considering them for our new construction. I was finally able to try these toilets in several locations on a recent trip to Europe. I think it won't be long before these become the norm here in the US, at least in higher end homes and hotels.

[@nssomedude]

Do you think it would be beneficial to add some 5 inch lags straight down into the new double studs through the plates so you don't get any pulling at the top of those studs from the toilet. I would think it will have a little bit of forward pull.

[@tomruth9487]

@nssomedude, When I framed in a wall tank, I made sure things were very well attached for just the reason you're talking about. Lots of force when the toilet and human weight levers against the wall framing for sure.

[@hotrodsurplus]

I replaced the toilets in our house with wall-hung. Geberit carrier (who makes Toto carriers), Swiss Madison elongated basin and lid (no bidet), and a Geberit flush plate for about half of their assembly. That's not a knock on this setup (I'd LOVE a Toto washlet), but it gets me 90 percent there for 50 percent of the cost. They make a bathroom bigger, cleaner, and more sophisticated.

[@OldElvis3141]

I put one in back in 2007. The Reasons for doing it was to allow for a custom height for an elderly person living in the home, and the projection from the wall gave us room for the same person to get to the tub in an old narrow bathroom. I have had NO issues with this at tall, where as in the standard toilets I've charged hardware.

[@donnahileman33]

If you use a little lubricant the rubber sleeve goes on a lot easier. I love watching you, helps me with some ideas on my total rehab house,

[@duenge]

Torque wrench? I am quite sure that Jordan's poo will not defeat 4 stainless bands. You guys entertain me every week, and I appreciate you all.

[@KatanaKamisama]

Taco Bell

[@dereksellars]

LMAO!!! Good One!@@KatanaKamisama

[@dolphfren]

@@KatanaKamisama That's Taco Smell Aka Taco Bell

[@jjjacer]

@@KatanaKamisama while that might generate a lot of little poo and tons of water, eating a large subway sub will generate a huge log that clogs anything

[@MrNaliux]

In this case I would rather be safe than sorry

[@johnsnapp8970]

Thanks for staying with this format! Love you channel! If you are able, you should consider getting someone to help you with the editing videos. Hard to be a builder, videographer, and editor with only 24 hours in a day!!!

[@mr.boniato6402]

The idea is good, but the way they are doing it makes more organic.

[@pcoakle1]

Nice job guys. I installed a TOTO toilet for a client 2 years ago. It sure was expensive, but nice. They make a very good product. Can't wait to look back on some of your other videos.

[@jimo680]

That is fantastic! Nice job, gents. Great system. I'm an electrician, and my plumbing skills are sketchy. I saw a couple of these on jobsites, but never saw such a great tutorial. This will solve my basement problem. Thanks so much. P.S. - I've used the masonry version of those spyder hole saws and they are fantastic. I'll never go back to the $130 dry core bits, with their $20 thread adaptors again. Best to you both.

[@THE-APEX]

Studpack Rocks! You guys need to do a couple chocolate pudding flush tests to show how well or not these units flush. I really wanted to go wall hung on my bathroom remodel, but after much research and comment reading, peeps often complained of too little water in the bowl so odors are more prevalent, and or, “dry stacking”. I had to look that one up.

[@StudPack]

“Dry stacking” is hilarious😂 These toilets get a lot of hate, but so did the first combustion engine 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@THE-APEX]

@@StudPackAgreed. I really want this to go well! Must do pudding test. 😊

[@briand8380]

This is my request too, there isn't enough info out there to vet these wall hungs properly. Pudding test!

[@alberthartl8885]

The Toto toilet they chose is their 'Tornado' flush system. It's the best toilet flush even when set to 1 gpf. Gets the skid marks as well.

[@tomruth9487]

@@alberthartl8885 Wondering if you have any experience with the Geberit wall tank system as compared to the Toto?

[@tobiasramforth8474]

Believe it or not this kind of toilet is and has been the de facto standard in Germany and a lot of other European countries, as well, for years. You should check out the manufacturer Geberit as an alternative. Keep up posting such great videos. Keep u

[@LykeArgy]

Yeah, i'm from Croatia (the construction is going wild for the past 5 years) and alot of newer buildings are using these built in toilets.

[@ronlovell5374]

Nice! I've done quite a few of these toilet/bidets combos over the past few years. Many were Toto bowls, but I used the Geberit rough in assemblies. They're quite a bit narrower. I recently done a powered bidet that had several lighting features inside and out, remote phone app, and a bluetooth speaker, but what shocked me most, it had a two stage/cartridge water filter for the supply line. It really left me scratching my head. I had to ask my client where they got a NASA toilet from?

[@michaelsparks6084]

Lol, NASA!

[@aptpupil]

X2 to the geberit tank

[@akilfahd]

@ronlovell5374 what the brand and model of the powered bidet?

[@ronlovell5374]

@akilfahd1683 some kind of Smart toilet, (Kohler Numi), and I've also in the past couple of years installed Avindi, Duravit, and Vovo that clients got online.

[@XanthusBarnabas]

Great video, thanks a bunch. These are everywhere in Europe, esp new construction/renovation; maybe a bit quirky to install, but in the end, a much better option. As a bachelor, they make cleaning the WC much easier/faster...

[@brianvandebogart6996]

I did a powder room remodel using this exact toilet. Nothing was as it should have been. I had to do a lot of adapting, overcoming, and improvising. Original toilet was a tanked wall mount on a 2x4 studded wall. The foam ring at the discharge failed and leaked. Which prompted the powder room remodel. A bit of a nightmare considering the toto discharge is down and the old discharge was through the wall into the waste/stack and upstairs plumbing. Like I said, a nightmare which I overcame and all came out beautifully done. With no KZbin videos to give tips or tricks, I was on my own. Thank you for your video.

[@timothyoldford6638]

Anyone else’s wife roll their eyes when you excitedly burst out with “new stud pack video!!!”???

[@FordGames45]

Frequently.

[@margaretbear]

No, but my husband does!

[@Tlloyd56]

My wife “why do you keep watching these videos? Are you gonna build a house?” MAYBE!

[@hrcnick11]

I need to start pre-watching these now my wife wants a new in wall tank toilet.

[@mrcryptozoic817]

@@Tlloyd56 You never know. Five years from now someone may ask you "what do you know about toilet installations?" and now you know a little bit more than everyone else.

[@danmaarzo5336]

I'm totally flabbergasted, in the Netherlands (and most of europe) we've been using this toilet system for decades and the USA is now finding out about them

[@MarinaCholewicki]

Same for Russia, in the last 4-5 years everyone has switched to those, it's easy to clean under, looks sleek and it is not that expensive compared to one in the USA. I hope this will become a thing I hate those monstrosities with a tank that collects dust...

[@Bart-dg6qv]

No, it's still terra incognita. Sadly.

[@kendellchadwatts7595]

Could bought ten traditional toilets for the price he paid for that one and it looks like a nightmare to maintain. He will have to special order any parts that will eventually need replacing

[@Bart-dg6qv]

@@kendellchadwatts7595 Just to let you know - I installed one around 16 years ago. Nothing ever happened. And I'm not a professional. Read the instructions and it's very simple to do correctly.

[@kendellchadwatts7595]

@@Bart-dg6qv do you remember how much it cost?

[@joel_fpv]

No, you should've gotten the kohler veil in-wall tank carrier system with the veil wall hang toilet, then use the toto 7s washlet bidet toilet seat. That's the best combination.

[@StudPack]

The Veil would have bankrupted us 😂

[@joel_fpv]

​​​@@StudPackNo, there's a cheaper kohler Veil standard wall hang toilet . Not the Veil smart toilet. There are two versions. Then use the toto 7S washlet bidet seat. That's what I meant.

[@joel_fpv]

​​​​@@StudPack and when using a wall hang toilet, always go with the wall hang 2x6 frame . Because it carries a larger water tank for the wall hang toilet .

[@StudPack]

@@joel_fpv ahh that's a great idea. Remind us on the main house! 🤜

[@Cat-mfn-rock]

I think you guys are fantastic. The. Perkins Builder Brothers channel led me to y'all, but your great family dynamic kept me. I love how Paul always says "great job, bud." Keep up the great work

[@StudPack]

Welcome aboard!

[@ronpossick]

Like that ejector wood bit. If i come back out of retirement and back in the plumbing business, I`ll buy some, but at now 82 yrs,doubt it like hell .Fun to watch-thanx

[@brianhopkins5251]

to make sure it's tight enough, just tighten it up until it strips, then back off a 1/4 turn

[@StudPack]

That's what I was taught 😁

[@D2O2]

Tighten it until it gets loose again....

[@craigharrison3674]

I want this guy to be my dad and teach me the ways.

[@mike.poulson]

Having your sewer pipe that tight in the hole is asking for it to break with seismic pressure

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

The multi-tool is a game changer in the industry.. I love that thing! It's SO versatile!!