Studying the future of the ACC from the ACC perspective | Big 12 Insiders

[@tazbo]

This WVU Fan would love to be in same conference as Pitt. It only helps both schools

[@fwilliamcony28]

Agree. However, if you check out comments from Pitt fans on their Rival's free football chat board, they prefer to remain in a rebuilt ACC which they say is familiar territory to them as opposed to new Big XII rivals. They also support OOC games with WVU and other old Big East rivals like Cincinnati. The Backyard Brawl will soon have a hiatus but resume at the end of this decade into the 2030's which makes no sense to me when you have sellouts.

[@aarontracy5160]

Pitt can rot. Looking forward to seeing WVU vs Utah.

[@yerapotatoharry]

ACC has a solid group in waiting with USF, Tulane and Memphis, even Wazzu and OSU for the west coast pod

[@jeffwatson68]

Not bad options but all were not added by the B12.

[@yerapotatoharry]

@@jeffwatson68 good thing the ACC isn’t the Big 12

[@terryrich4889]

ACC strong!

[@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen]

Great show! Thank you for having me on brother!

[@clayw70]

From a Texas Tech fan, I enjoyed listening to your reasoned commentary. Thank you as well for making the point about the loss of viewership if they try to split up college football. That's an excellent point that I had sadly never heard.

[@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen]

@@clayw70 thank you!

[@fface5727]

Dude we get it you hate FSU you're just disingenuous. But you're giving credit to Clemson for doing the same thing??

[@DKOBSpeaks]

Pitt should be in the Big 12 along with 3-5 others.

[@DKOBSpeaks]

JJ and Fitz that's what they don't get. 48 Team super league will cut viewership by 30%, without access we won't watch.

[@stischer47]

The ACC should do what the Big 12 did with Texas and OU - get FSU and Clemson out ASAP, get universities that want to be part of the ACC, and move on.

[@SteelersAlmighty]

I would love to see WV, Pitt, Louisville, and Cincinnati all in the Big 12 and in a pod playing each other every year.

[@clayw70]

Great show! Excellent point on the loss of viewership if they ever decide to split up college football with a division that only has 40 to 50 teams.

[@MatthewWalsh-h3b]

Plenty of talk about capping NIL at 20 million. Yet A&M paid Jimbo F a 75 million buyout. When will serious talk begin about capping coaches’ salaries.

[@jeffwatson68]

KState needs to EMBRACE the LAVENDER!!!!!!

[@joecartwright9221]

FSU & CLEMSON leaving will hurt the ACC. ESPN WILL NOT EXTEND THEIR CONTRACT WITH THE ACC AFTER 2026-2027 . Therefore all ACC TEAMS NEED TO FIND A LANDING SPOT ANYWHERE.

[@wvgolfnut1]

Would love to have Clemson, could care less about FSU

[@BracketCat]

Hi Ken

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

ESPN is already paying for Stanford, Cal, and SMU. If and when FSU and Clemson leave. Why would ESPN agree to pay full price for more none P4 schools that also don't have the value? That would be 5 schools that don't have the value ESPN would have to foot the bill for. Does that make sense?

[@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen]

@@lorenzohaynes3886 because it’s in the contract. Also, that would be like saying, why pay the Big 12 when they lost two teams who carried the conference in Oklahoma and Texas?

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen It's not the same thing. No offense, but the Big 12 git a new deal based on the value of the 12 schools, including Cincy, UCF, Houston, and BYU. The networks are getting a deal because the Big 12 affed value for the same price. The ACC is expecting ESPN to pay the same price for less value after losing the top brands on a continuing deal. But if you look at the current ending Big 12 deal. The networks didn't agree to pay the same for Cincy, Houston, BYU, and UCF. Now, the ACC may get the same from ESPN. But the ACC has already added to keep above the 15 make if schools leave. But it's business and money. It's asking a lot to expect ESPN to keep shelling out money for schools worth half the value. Just so the ACC can have schools. 15 and 20 million losses per new school has to come to a head at some point. Again, I'm not trying to be offensive.

[@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen]

@@lorenzohaynes3886 this is so off it’s maddening. It’s also telling you don’t know how the deal is structured. You missed the boat in this one between shares and ACC Network distributions. Numbers are on my side. Also, Big 12 added horrible teams in Cincy, BYU, and Houston. Along with others. UCF even has a lot to prove. Oklahoma and Texas carried that conference for decades. We will see how the numbers are with them gone……

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen Idk.... BYU is a national brand. No one can deny that. And if you look at Houston, UCF, and Cincy tv ratings when they were good in the ACC. There's a lot of upside. They got pretty good ratings. It's easy to say Texas and OU carried the Big 12. But Texas hasn't been good for a very long time by Trxas standards. And the last few years, OU has been way off. And OU nor Texas carried anything in basketball. Other schools did pretty good carrying the load. You seem to be taking this personally. I'm not really trying to do that. Like it or not, the 8 remaining schools plus BYU, Houston, UCF, and Cincinnati got a new upgraded deal without the 4 corners. Which noone can say the 4 corners didn't add value to the conference. That's a fact. A fact paid for by the networks with OU and Texas. The press plus the Big 10 and SEC are leaning conversations towards a 2 conference super league, and the season hasn't started. Assuming ESPN wants to spend more of their money on G5 schools, becoming P4 is a grave mistake. ESPN will get their pound of flesh if that happens. Heck the SEC and the Big 10 are openly saying UNC and Virginia are targets. They will get them. Any time in the next 13 years. Which the back half of that 13 is really unlikely. The Big 10 paid like 75 million per school, and they haven't really even gotten all of their new money. It is what it is.

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen I really appreciate the dialog, though.

[@kenneaderhiser7768]

The agreement has to be FSU and Clemson have to pay back PE in full in order to leave.