Stuka Restoration update - April 2019

Here's another quick photo/video update of Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum's Junkers Ju-87R-4 Stuka restoration taking place.
This Stuka, an R-4 version modified to fly long distances, was built in 1941 and was destined for North Africa before being diverted to the fighting in Russia. Serving with Lehrgeschwader (demonstration wing) 1 and then Sturzkampfgeschwader (dive bomber wing) 5, the plane operated in northwest Russia, near the border with Finland and Norway.
The aircraft was on a mission to bomb Murmansk in April of 1942 when it was attacked by Soviet fighters and crashed to the west of the city. The wreckage remained in the wilderness until the early 1990s, when it was acquired by a private collector and shipped to England. The rare plane was eventually obtained by the Deutsches Technikmuseum (German Museum of Technology) in Berlin in 1997.
The Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum began a restoration to flying condition on this rare and important aircraft in 2013. This is one of only three surviving Stukas left in the world.

[@fight2flyphoto]

Unfortunately it looks like this project won't get off the ground after all. Vulcan Inc. just announced they are closing FHCAM with no current plan to re-open. :-(

[@lewisbradford3305]

Very sad

[@danjohnston3422]

From the facebook page: "The COVID-19 crisis has had a devastating effect on many cultural organizations, especially those that rely on public gatherings and special events to achieve their mission. Given so much uncertainty, we have made the very difficult decision to suspend all operations of Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum for now. Our mission has always been to celebrate humanity’s spirit during the world conflicts of the 20th century by returning the rare aircraft, vehicles and artifacts within the museum to working condition enabling the public to experience them firsthand. The current global situation is making it difficult for us to serve our mission and we will spend the months ahead reassessing if, how, and when to reopen. Thank you to our members, donors, community and corporate partners and our employees and volunteers who have made Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum so special." One hopes for a good resolution to the situation, but in light of Paul Allen's death and the subsequent loss of his vision for the collection, who knows?

[@ronaldtartaglia4459]

Time to call Kermit

[@ronaldtartaglia4459]

Cowards

[@ricardoroberto100]

It will. Give it time. Someone will take it up again when all this dies down. It may take another year or two but it wont be abandoned. No one will let this amount of work go unfinished. Stay positive.

[@e1935075]

Many years ago, as young RAF recruit, I came cross a Ju87 in a hanger on the airfield at St Athan. The cockpit was open and I could be a Stuka pilot fo a few, very memorable moments. This aircraft would have been the one that is now at Hendon.

[@jetaddicted]

My grand pa flew the D-4 version, in a tuffatori squadron for the Regia aeronautica, I know he took part in a mission over the US navy in Licata bay in July 43, from which he brought back an aircraft that would never fly again due to damage. He ended up being a liaison officer with this same US navy a few months later as not many Italians spoke as many languages as he did. We have the compas and clock of his last Stuka at home. And no we’re not selling them ;p

[@PaddyPatrone]

the amount of work and detail they are putting into this project is just amazing, can`t wait to see it fly!

[@albquehu3ur177]

me too

[@randomname4522]

Amazing, the ju87 is one of my top 3 favorite ww2 aircraft and to finally see one fly in the coming years will be amazing

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

I agree. Other than the _side_ that operated them, the Stuka IS a beautiful design.

[@sirboomsalot4902]

It has the siren! That’s going to be badarse at airshows!

[@ImBrockatron]

will they be able to get in working? im not sure if they know enough about it for it to be operational.

[@antoargu1325]

they said they will not use it on this Stuka

[@Brandon_J]

@@ImBrockatron It’s very very basic. It’s just two propellors that spin and make a sound.

[@MAZAKMAL2]

Plenty of mustangs and spitfires still flying, but its great to see another veteran getting some TLC. Keep up the good work.

[@BetterAircraftFabric]

Wonderful project !!! Great to See ! (Wunderbar!) There are two Stuka in Museums as complete airplanes and that one is being restored to fly with the right engine and all those details is just great !!! Thanks for posting ! - Regards from Alaska!

[@mauriceclemens3286]

Wow,that bullet hole through the layered plate glass is amazing!🙀🙀🙀

[@jaybell5057]

The stuka at any stage is pure art, and was poetry in motion.

[@tripwire3992]

Cant wait to hear the Jericho siren

[@antoargu1325]

this Stuka will not have it

[@JasonBorne321]

@anto argu why?

[@CommanderCrocky]

I wont come

[@airplaneguyaidan7943]

JasonBourne901 i believe JU87R was not a dive bomber, it was a ground attack plane. So sadly, this variant of the stuka does not have the siren :(

[@cfranko1860]

Only the very early stukas had them, and the planes lost about 20-25kph due to drag. By 1942 virtually all Stuka units had removed them. However it would be very cool to hear.

[@peterarmstrong8613]

My Mum was shot at on a beach by a Stuka early in the war. She survived, and I’m here to write this.

[@strenggeheim6672]

Schön zu sehen das es Enthusiasten gibt die sich diesem tollen Flugzeug annehmen. Viele Grüße aus Deutschland. 👍🏻🔴⚪⚫🙋🏻‍♂️

[@FiveCentsPlease]

Superb photography as always. Thanks. I can see some of the first electrics being installed already. Can hardly wait for a video of the engine testing soon.

[@SS-zd6yi]

The last time i was that exited about a restoration was when War Gaming said they would rebuilt the Panzer VIII Maus from scratch... This Stuka is the most ambitious restoration i ever seen just because of the Jericho's Trumpets... for the first time in almost 80 years the sheriekers will terrorise the skies, and finally we will hear how it really sounds like, i aways had a feeling that the sound we hear in WW2 footage is fake, like the explosion and shots

[@Simon-sv6qe]

Sɪᴍᴏɴ Sᴇɴᴀᴠɪᴇᴠ this won’t have Jericho trumpets as it’s a later model they didn’t have them sorry to burst your bubble

[@Evitco]

@@Simon-sv6qe It is an early war R variant so the Jericho trumpets aren't entirely out of the question but in real life unlikely to be used.

[@ImBrockatron]

@@Simon-sv6qe not all later models didnt have them. they just had the option to turn it on and off unlike first gen stukas. and the 2 bladed prop is there with this plane so it seems like it will have the siren.

[@ImBrockatron]

@@Evitco this wouldve been made early, so most likely had a siren. not to mention it is assumed that the siren prop in the video is this airframes siren itself.

[@Simon-sv6qe]

Brock Augusto it won’t have them stop defending it

[@walterfritz6743]

Schön wenn sie wieder fliegt, großartiges Projekt.

[@duanescot]

It's one of my dreams to see a Stuka take to the air again, if this happens? Happy days....

[@kuri369kuri]

Wow! Thanks for the update. Thanks for the details in the video. Keep up the amazing work

[@rachidmachado1722]

ABSOLUTELLY BEAUTIFULL !!!!!!!!

[@catlady8324]

2:01 Excellent use of Depth of Field technique!

[@pickle4293]

OMG THAT SIREN...

[@einefreunde]

When I was a wee lad in hospital having my tonsils out one of the nurses bought me a model Airfix Stuka, always had a soft spot for her.

[@juanvazquez-torres5676]

Beautiful craftsmanship

[@strikeeaglemodels1588]

Wow! What a project 😍

[@paoloviti6156]

Just subscribed because I too can't wait to see how is going to be assembled into a real Stuka! I can see that those people are doing a great job! Keep on posting 👍👍👍👍

[@P61guy61]

Thank you for posting

[@gordon7470]

WOW!!! So much hard work and attention to detail. Respect 👌👌👌

[@rickvanoers1064]

Wow! Can 't wait untill it's finished

[@MsKateeD]

So cool!!! Beautiful video-- as always. never disappoint!! tfs

[@robleary3353]

Love the idea yhe skills are still around to bring this back. Can't wait to see it fly and hear the sound of the 'siren'.

[@juanpabloaravenariquelme5461]

UNGLAUBLICH DAS BESTE DER WELT

[@TopSecretVid]

The plane my Grandfather flew...sooo cool!!

[@medicumplagalol3307]

Your german?

[@haraldludke3618]

Endlich mal eine Ju 87,hoffentlich fliegt sie irgendwann mal, ich würde um die halbe Welt reisen um sie zu sehen!! Eine Homage an Oberst Hans Ulrich Rudel, eines der besten Kampfflieger des 2 Weltkrieges!! R I P!!

[@sgtrma]

Parabéns pelo seu trabalho !!!

[@johnutting9615]

Interesting main plane construction

[@Eagle-od1im]

It’s interesting to think that this aircraft would have been there from the very start of the war to the very end of it, serving on almost every front in Europe.

[@JSerrato289]

I want more replicas and restorations of the Ju-87, I hope to fly it one day

[@mgbrv8]

Fantastic

[@pavlospavlou5797]

It is really a historic plane ✈

[@oxcart4172]

Thanks for the update! Hope these are regular! There is a talk on the project (from in front of it!) on the Air Corps Aviation site

[@fight2flyphoto]

Thanks! Check out Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum's YT channel... I have been filming more events for them and will be adding more content there. Stay tuned!

[@oxcart4172]

@@fight2flyphoto U have a new subscriber! All the best!

[@SamTeee]

Would love to see one fly, just to hear the Jericho!

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+Same Tumalty This is an airworthy rebuild.

[@rubensandri740]

I wish they can finish this piece of gold.

[@geoffnepo]

one of the iconic warbird being resurrected is fantastic way to safeguard our past

[@ErossMcCloud]

the last image.. wow

[@johnpitzer5500]

I live less than 3 miles from there, I didn't know they had a stuka being worked on

[@MrVolvobloke]

Impressive. You know it's not a proper restoration unless you're using things like ice cream tubs and pringles tubes to store bits. Looking forward to this.

[@fight2flyphoto]

Haha! So true indeed!

[@pablo-iu3lv]

I hope that at some point they can finish with the restoration of the plane, I have an original copy of hans rudel book "Trotzdem" signed by his own hand.

[@peterecos634]

Wow, that hole thru the ventral window had to have knocked out the pilot.

[@sblack48]

What a strange wing structure with those box things around the spar. It doesn’t allow the spar to be the full depth of the wing. I wonder why they did that? Love that Rube Goldberg mechanism at 0:18. You can see how it is pitted from corrosion. Anyone know what it is?

[@andrewward9601]

Outstanding work? Where was the smashed glass from? Windscreen?

[@fight2flyphoto]

The "bullet proof" glass is from the rear gunner window.

[@allanroser1070]

That image is the show stopper imo ... just wow! ... what the hell hit it? .. and how close was the other guy? ... had to be bigger than a 20mm cannon round? ... I guess it could of seen ground straffed or hit with advancing weapons also ... would love to know more about it if possible 🤗

[@Farweasel]

@@allanroser1070 I'd bet a quid on it being a cannon round which did that.

[@allanroser1070]

@@Farweasel fair comment mate.... I didnt know until a few days back while watching a sim flight of a Stuka they jad a "window" in the cockpit floor just forward of the bottom of the stick... so when you lost sight of the target ahead obscured by the nose you would wait for it to appear in that window which was the time to roll her over for the dive.... fascinating... learn something new every day. 😉

[@Farweasel]

@@allanroser1070 I should have added, the cannon on Yak 9s, which maybe was what did for this bod, were often 37mm, some 45mm, units. Hell of a punch. Caused problems for the 'plane firing 'em quite often.

[@spinnetti]

Awesome. Wonder why they didn't match the exhaust stub flange with the original?

[@browning50cal]

I so want to do this kind of work in retirement.

[@juanpabloaravenariquelme5461]

INCREDIBLE THE BEST IN THE WORLD

[@tempest1261]

What was the name of the music used in this video?

[@jorgevillamizar7770]

Ojalá lo terminen para poder ver volar uno original otra vez, con su sirena y todo,excelente trabajo.

[@mark703]

Any reason this build isn't flush riveted like an original Stuka? seeing there going to all this trouble of building one.

[@fight2flyphoto]

She's correct down to the rivet. There are recovered sections of the aircraft on display that clearly use do not use flush rivets, corresponding to the restoration. Wings and fuselage. Check out some of the details here: www.fighttoflyphoto.com/p44236498

[@spoonnz]

OMG!!!

[@ImBrockatron]

a spit is cool, but this is beyond cool.

[@ananthasuraj2187]

I want to be see it fly for the first time

[@AdrianWoodfield]

Anyone know what the piece of music was, please?

[@hoppinonabronzeleg9477]

Reminded me a tad of Bernard Hermann's score in Taxi Driver!

[@fw1421]

Why haven’t we seen any new updates about the restoration? It’s been a long time since this one.

[@fight2flyphoto]

Because there hasn't been any progress.

[@BeachsideHank]

@@fight2flyphoto That's no excuse!!! ☺

[@fight2flyphoto]

@@BeachsideHank haha. I keep telling them to stop being lazy bums. Lol

[@memoirsofthemisunderstood8761]

Will it make the siren when it flys??

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+Raptor_Aviator That has not been confirmed, although they are building parts for the siren.

[@jakeschmale4679]

Will it have the junkers jumo?

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+Jake Schmale Yes, the engine has already been tested and delivered to be installed later.

[@thekrieger2959]

Imagine a vet hears this ;-;

[@Sebparra89]

Where can we see more updates?

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+Sebparra89 The museum said they have been busy with completing the Me-262 as well as changing equipment in the other aircraft and preparing them for annual inspections. They said they would get back to the Stuka in November so I think we'll see an update soon.

[@jeisinga]

Is this stuka restored to flying conditions and is there a Facebook group I can follow

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+Jurgen E Yes, to flying condition.

[@benjaminjohnson6476]

I Wonder what that much damage to the glass.

[@ImBrockatron]

@TheCosmuc wrench its bullet proof glass im pretty sure. so much be large cal round. probably not shrapnel.

[@TreeTop1947]

I wonder if this will be for static display or if we can look forward to seeing it in the air someday? Either way, please keep us informed/updated! Thanks and Semper Fi, TreeTop

[@fight2flyphoto]

Oh it is very much being restored to fly. Its Jumo 211 is down at Vintage V12s getting ready for its first runup. Going to be AWESOME!

[@WorldWarMilitaryHistory]

I was so excited that they are going to add the Jericho Trumpet! 😀

[@ImBrockatron]

@@fight2flyphoto please bring us a video of its start ups? its my favourite ww2 plane to fly in sims and maybe my fav in general and would love to hear it on youtube since i may never get to see it in person.

[@fight2flyphoto]

@@ImBrockatron Will do my best! Nothing has really happened to the airframe since this video... they brought the Jumo engine up, but haven't done anything with it. Will keep all posted. :-)

[@Edward2Fan47]

I wonder how much it would cost to rent that plane for filming. And I wonder if that plan can sometimes visit some airshows in America.

[@fight2flyphoto]

As long as it is with Vulcan, zero. So damn stingy they wouldn't even let their own employees take pictures of the planes that fly.

[@Edward2Fan47]

@@fight2flyphoto And how much would it cost to buy that Stuka and finish the restoration?

[@FiveCentsPlease]

@@Edward2Fan47 The FHC collection kept their aircraft local to the museum with very few short flights. I was OK with this as long as they can be filmed and documented (especially without other aircraft, Boeing jets or construction in the background.) The Stuka would never travel to airshows. Real vintage aircraft for movies is fading away. Producers don't want to pay to rent them or insure them when they can just contract with a CGI shop to make the most unrealistic flying as possible. Buying the Stuka? Well it would sell for a LOT more money if it was completed and flyable and not sitting on the museum floor in pieces.

[@sjoormen1]

One of the most hated airplanes...

[@Airland_combat]

Is the progress still doing great? I'd love to hear some Jericho siren scream. When I get in the Air Force, I'd also love to fly that. I know COVID 19 must've impacted that, but I still wonder if progress is doing well.

[@fight2flyphoto]

Sadly everything at the museum stopped back in March. They issued refunds to everyone who purchased a membership and have no plans of opening. :-(

[@Airland_combat]

@@fight2flyphoto If I had the money, I would try to Fund them.

[@turdferguson63]

Please update the public regardless of good or bad news. A lot of people really care about the museum and its projects.

[@fight2flyphoto]

I'm not associated with the museum. They have been closed and radio silent since Spring 2020. What you see is how they left it.

[@turdferguson63]

@@fight2flyphoto I know, I really hope projects continue during the radio silence. Too much already invested. Not like museum admission actually covered the cost of restorations. Probably barely covered the lights being on. Either the projects continue behind closed doors or Vulcan is just cutting it out completely because it just blends money it will never get back.

[@fight2flyphoto]

@@turdferguson63 it's a darn shame. They've started selling off the projects. :-( B-17, F-8's, Fw 189. I think after Paul died Jody saw nothing but $$$. I'd rather have them sell it off to people who will do these airplanes justice than sit there in silence.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

@@fight2flyphoto A real shame that it was Paul's wishes that the museum be supported and he provided for it in his estate only for Vulcan to close the entire division that supported several museums. It will be years before the Stuka sees air.

[@fight2flyphoto]

@@FiveCentsPlease It really is. Looked at the FAA registry and all of the planes (all the current flyers) that were previously registered to FHCAM now are registered to Vulcan Aircraft/Warbirds again. :-/

[@seakobold]

Where is this restoration taking place and when is the go-public flight expected?

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+seakobold Final assembly is being done at the museum in Everett, Washington in the US. The restoration was done by various experts all around the world. The new aircraft structure was restored and constructed by experts in Hungary. The engine was restored by one of the best engine experts in the business in California. The new propeller was made and tested by an expert shop in the UK. The engine was tested and certified in July of this year and has been delivered to the museum. So presently workers are installing the various aircraft systems and avionics before installing the engine and putting the aircraft up on her landing gear. The museum is expecting testing and first flights in 2020.

[@seakobold]

Wow - that’s a lot of work and I must say dedication. Looking forward to seeing this beauty once more in the air. Standing by...

[@stevederkacz641]

I like the music, what is it called?

[@DevilKung14256]

Sounds like another version of Interstellar OST - Mountain

[@robertehrengruber1808]

I used app called Shazam it said A#/BB Pad Drone Pads

[@TheGuitarmanrh]

Why just extreme close ups? Why not show the whole plane??

[@garyseeseverything8615]

Finish the restoration!

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+ garyseeseverything New owners taking over soon.

[@e1935075]

What engine is going to be fitted in this aircraft....

[@fight2flyphoto]

Jumo 211

[@e1935075]

@@fight2flyphoto can't be many Jumo211's about...

[@fight2flyphoto]

@@e1935075 nope... but they did acquire about 2 shipping containers full of recovered motors and spares to make this one working engine.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

@@e1935075 Adding that the Jumo for the Stuka was already tested and flight certified last summer. For the Fw-190, they acquired six engines to get enough parts to build a flyable engine. I think I recall that they said for the Stuka they had gotten about ten Jumo engines, plus spare parts. More difficult are the differences between the sub-series of engines and components provided by sub-contractors that may not be correct for the engine. Finding the part or making the part is the key.

[@evertonmignac-D7101]

I don't understand why there aren't any other restoration companies supporting this project because it would've been the only flying Junker in the world,I wonder were it is now?

[@fight2flyphoto]

As far as I'm aware it's still with FHCAM. It all comes down to money. Recreating a flying Stuka likely costs millions of dollars. Their Fw 190 was estimated over $10 million and they had most of the parts and plenty of museum examples to study.

[@evertonmignac-D7101]

Oh I see,thanks for the information there it's that I was really curious to know what happened and why Danke.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

@@fight2flyphoto They were on the home stretch with the Me-262 and the Stuka. It would be beneficial to complete those projects if they have the resources. I have heard that the real plan for the Me-262 was just a few flights and permanent retirement. It would be easier and less expensive to keep the Stuka in the air. I'm hearing some rumors that there might be a plan, so maybe there is some positive news on the horizon. I hope anyway.

[@joshuasmith3445]

Is this close to being done yet?

[@fight2flyphoto]

Not even. They have done some internal work with wiring, but pretty much looks exactly like what you see in the video.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+Josh Smith The November/December update shows them working on electrics and cockpit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eV6ZiJSJbaqImpI The have been busy with the Me-262, plus routine work on the other flying aircraft for annual inspections, etc.

[@teddifr]

Where ? When ?

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+Ted WOODS Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum, Everett WA. First flight expected in about two years or so.

[@lauriepocock3066]

Is that WWII paint or is due to a more recent paint job?

[@fight2flyphoto]

Not sure what you mean by that... they are recreating the same paint scheme and process. But this not original paint.

[@lauriepocock3066]

@@fight2flyphoto Am I right in concluding that there is a lot of filler on this sample, so I was wondering was that the type of finish that would have been applied to operational aircraft or was it a post war finish trying to smooth the wrinkles?

[@fight2flyphoto]

@@lauriepocock3066 The majority of this aircraft is new build, using original parts wherever possible, so none of it has any filler or original paint. The aircraft wears the tan topside and blue belly as the original did when it left the factory, destined for the desert. Needs changed and it got sent to the Eastern Front, where they painted over the desert markings, which is exactly what they intend to do with this aircraft, to fully represent the life of this airframe.

[@ShawnaGraham50]

Will this fly?

[@fight2flyphoto]

Yes, that is the plan.

[@ShawnaGraham50]

Fantastic!! I will come see this amazing plane good luck 👍

[@wor53lg50]

Holy moly what a feat of accomplishment to get this bird in the air, should be lottery funded for being one of kind seen nowhere else, acheivment well worth a low bow too...

[@CJB-]

It's a well known fact that the Stuka was the best aircraft of WW2. It only fail in the B.O.B. because it was used as a bomber and not allowed to roam and dog fight with Spitfires, which it could of shot down easily. The British also over used radar which acted as a force multiplier and place them at an unfair advantage. The Stuka was powered by a Rolls Royce engine, the Kestrel which superseded Merlin, which they continually bought from the British.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+C JB-9000 Wrong on all points. It was designed as dive bomber and even in the final Ju-87G form it's top speed barely broke 200mph. Very easy prey for fighters. The Stuka was powered by the Jumo 2xx series engines..

[@galdramadur1]

Only the first Ju 87 Prototyp was powered by a british Kestrel. The Standarttyps were powered by Jumo engines. Ju 87 A by Jumo 210, the Ju 87 B, D and G by Jumo 211.

[@galdramadur1]

@@FiveCentsPlease The same easy prey like a Fairey battle, Bristol Blenheim or Il 2, DB 3 or SBD Dauntless, SB2C Helldiver. All this aircraft are bombers not fighter planes.

[@ImBrockatron]

@@FiveCentsPlease it could easily breat almost 500 km with no bombs. with a smaller bomb on the underbelly it could reach 325km easy.

[@ImBrockatron]

it was a perfect design for a dive bomber. not a fighter.

[@MrDyhard]

.......someone else will pick it up and continue with it

[@jmc2903]

The ticking is really annoying!

[@fight2flyphoto]

Good thing there's a mute button.

[@scorcher46]

Hurry up

[@Captain-Nostromo]

I have deleted all comments I didn't know it was so many people trying to press money out of this

[@markjamison9677]

That’s not a restoration it’s a replica .

[@fight2flyphoto]

You misspelled restoration.

[@alanreeve5473]

It will certainly be interesting to see one fly. It's also important to remember that it was extensively used to attack & straffe defenceless targets including fleeing refugees.

[@ricardoroberto100]

It was the pilots who did that. Please dont try and be so dramatic over an inanimate object.

[@alanreeve5473]

@@ricardoroberto100 that's a bit pedantic isn't it?

[@ricardoroberto100]

@@alanreeve5473 not really Alan I just saw your comment as pointless and over dramatic. Stating a point everyone knows about already to tarnish a valuable modern project.

[@PRN4VY]

Fly it over a retirement home

[@clevlandblock]

Maybe the Smithsonian will pick this project up. The plane is just too rare and too classic to languish.

[@fight2flyphoto]

NO!!! If they pick it up it'll NEVER fly. It's got to go somewhere like Fantasy of Flight with Kermit Weeks or Planes of Fame. This thing was recovered and built to this point to fly. The Jumo 211 has already run with the prop.

[@clevlandblock]

@@fight2flyphoto I hope Kermit gets it by all means. He seemed a bit stunned by the Stuka when he posted his tour of the Paul Allen collection.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+daniel moran Hell no! If the Smithsonian wants a Stuka, then they can negotiate to get the example that is Chicago. It still has the original WW2 paint and that would be more suitable for the museum, plus someone can finally repair that damage from when it was dropped.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

@@fight2flyphoto In the least, FHC should give permission to Vintage to publish some videos of the Jumo 211 testing. Vintage is getting ready to test a Jumo 213 and I'm afraid the owner of that one is going to do the same thing and nobody will get to hear it.

[@samman8441]

Are you concerned that the peaceful protests will lead to the destruction of the your entire collection

[@c.j.cleveland7475]

sam man I would be there with something in a large caliber or high rate of fire (or both!)to fend off those "peaceful protesters" in defense of that plane or really the entire collection! 😒

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+sam man In addition to private security, the museum is located on airport property with airport security. So no.