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6 ай бұрын

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@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 ай бұрын
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@AwoudeX
@AwoudeX 4 ай бұрын
I don't like wearing gloves because: you can't feel how well your grip is on the material, and even if that grip is good, you can slip out of the glove. Use your arguably best feature: your brain. handle with extreme care. Foresee possible issues if something does go wrong and be ready for that eventuality. I've had saws buck when getting stuck, angle grinder disks explode etc. and because of my anticipation i have had no permanent injuries using power tools. The one thing i can remember happening was not having the right kind of safety glasses, there was room for stuff to pass at the sides and when i was cutting aluminum, a splinter bounced in my eye which was hot. Couldn't see anymore because of a small cut in it. Doctor couldn't find a single piece but it hurt like hell and my eye watered like i was crying. After adding a painkiller on the surface of my eye, i could see again and as eyes heal fast, the next day i was ok.
@alexdenommee3219
@alexdenommee3219 3 ай бұрын
If you'd like, I'll make a quick little video for you about my fingy, I still have all the pics lol. It wasn't cut though, it was hard slammed by a punch press for steel...
@sammylacks4937
@sammylacks4937 3 ай бұрын
I worked 33 years as a sawfiler working mostly on bandsaws but also carbide and machinery and cut resistant gloves were all I wore.i liked how snug they fit and I didn't loose any dexterity. A might cold in winter but ai liked them.
@SomePoserStoleMyName
@SomePoserStoleMyName 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been a Prosthetist for over 20 years. If you believe that you can safely use power tools with gloves on I applaud your enthusiasm for keeping me employed.
@amandabottoms1
@amandabottoms1 5 ай бұрын
I wear bright green gloves to remind me to move them away from the blade. 😂
@gabbermaikel
@gabbermaikel 5 ай бұрын
this is the best comment here. Because this is just how it is. I keep telling people DONT WEAR GLOVES WITH POWERTOOLS and they all say it is saver with gloves. Wel fine, go ahead. I rather get a small cut from a sharp edge or something then lose my hand because of the stupid gloves.
@AdelaeR
@AdelaeR 5 ай бұрын
That's dark, sir. Personally I only use gloves on the chainsaw.
@rdizzy1
@rdizzy1 5 ай бұрын
This is ignoring all of the individuals that had to take a trip to the "Prosthetist" for losing digits without gloves. Far, far more than with gloves, I can tell you that for certain. Can you lose fingers because of gloves getting caught up? Sure, but you can just as easily lose those fingers without gloves in similar situations that you might have lost less fingers or even no fingers if you had a cut glove on. It isn't as cut and dry as people make it seem. Especially with things like a table saw, chop saw, belt/disc sander, chainsaw, disc grinder, etc. The only machines I wouldn't ever use gloves on are very large machines like large lathes for instance, or large disc sanders like 18+ inch, larger power tools in general.
@napaindian62
@napaindian62 5 ай бұрын
@@AdelaeRyea and even that is controversial. I as well use gloves with chainsaws but I do know many that won’t.
@RobertJones-sq6bl
@RobertJones-sq6bl 5 ай бұрын
I was a machinist for many years and now a hobby carpenter; always wear gloves when handling material, cut resistance if necessary, but never wear them around grinding wheels, drills, mills, saws etc. This article is right on; totally correct.
@jazzyjaytee9961
@jazzyjaytee9961 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely right. As a rule of thumb, I never wear gloves when operating any spinning tool. Chainsaws, lawnmowers and grass trimmers may be an exception, though.
@kanhdahar2
@kanhdahar2 5 ай бұрын
ive had my finger almost snapped by a electric drill pulling my glove around it, was very painful, but could have been worst.
@justandy333
@justandy333 5 ай бұрын
I agree, When handling materials, clearing out lathe chips, drill waste etc, definitely wear gloves! Those can be razor sharp and have your finger off if your not careful. But as you say machines that can pinch and snag your gloves, don't even go there with gloves on. Latex or nitrile gloves get a free pass.
@joelmacdonald6994
@joelmacdonald6994 5 ай бұрын
I’m a professional machinist, so we have something in common. I don’t wear gloves, even rubber or nitrile, around any rotating tooling or work. I’m a supervisor, and I’ve voiced my concern to my superiors, and we all agree that anyone that won’t take the gloves off after the first warning should be sent home. I’m glad my superiors know what I know, and I’m glad they understand the dangers and take the responsibility of safety seriously; despite the desire and need of productivity, we take personal safety extremely seriously. I feel fortunate that I work with and for people that can see and appreciate the risk, and acknowledge that going home with all 5 digits is more important than profit.
@justandy333
@justandy333 5 ай бұрын
@@mikehoncho3099 I hope you managed to educate them. Gloves are good but only in certain situations. Frustratingly the health and safety guys where I work don't always have hands on experience so aren't aware of the pitfalls. Kinda ironic if you think about it. How a health and safety guy whose job it is to know these things, but in some cases are clueless.
@dougstewart4286
@dougstewart4286 5 ай бұрын
The best lesson you can have for not wearing gloves with a tool is with a drill. Once you've had a glove catch on a drill and see how quick it wraps around before you can react, it makes you think about what would have happened with a higher torque/faster tool.
@stevecolburn8576
@stevecolburn8576 5 ай бұрын
Been there, done that! No more gloves for me, unless I’m just moving lumber.
@Bob-of-Zoid
@Bob-of-Zoid 5 ай бұрын
A glove ain't nothing! When long hair on men came into fashion, there were hundreds of people injured from having their hair caught on a drill press, lathe... Seeing a few pictures with guys with chunks of their heads missing was all I needed to always wear a hair net, and still keep a safe distance.
@OldtoNewRestorations
@OldtoNewRestorations 5 ай бұрын
I spent most of today undoing screws with my impact driver. It was really cold out, so I was wearing gloves. I must have caught my glove fingertips in the bit a dozen times in the day. Not a big deal as it was with a handheld tool with no sharp blades and I just let go of the trigger each time before any real damage was done (just a few pinched fingertips and some slightly battered gloves), but it was a sobering lesson in how quickly things can go south, no matter how careful you're being. I definitely wouldn't want to wear gloves using a drill or any sort of cutting tool.
@davidfarnall3211
@davidfarnall3211 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely with you on that. Happened to me a few months ago. Scared the bejasus out of me. Lightweight work glove shredded, very sore fingers, but no cuts and thankfully no lasting damage other than to my job site reputation as "Mr Health and Safety"! Mind you, fifteen years ago I had a 9 inch angle grinder blade shatter under load, and heavy duty gloves saved my fingers from having to be sewn back on, so James's point about risk assessment is very valid too.
@ButBigger42
@ButBigger42 5 ай бұрын
Had a grinder with a wire cup get stuck in my shirt after it skipped off the workpiece. Crazy how fast it happens.
@chstoney
@chstoney 5 ай бұрын
As a knifemaker, I had a few close calls with my belt grinder. Luckily, so far I have lost at the most a few mm of a fingernail. However, if I were wearing gloves, I would suffer at least a broken finger and possibly completely lost one at worst. It is indeed scary how fast these things happen. I also learned that when I start thinking that I should be taking a break, I should take a break immediately. No "I will just finish this and then...". That is a sure way to lose concentration and that is the time when the manure hits the windmill.
@iwriteonshit
@iwriteonshit 5 ай бұрын
Nothing has taught me more about fingernail anatomy than gentle kisses from the belt sander.
@Volt64bolt
@Volt64bolt 5 ай бұрын
Realised this after building my own belt sander, lucking I wasn’t wearing the glove and just had it wrapped around the end of blade, it was a rocking pizza chopper, to help stop the heat when rough grinding. It caught behind the belt and launched the blade straight down into my boots. Polymer capped so I still have my toes, my palm got a nasty cut though. Don’t risk it. Ever.
@ohanneskamerkoseyan3157
@ohanneskamerkoseyan3157 5 ай бұрын
I noticed that operating any kind of machining tool is just like driving a car. You get tired and start to lose concentration. Then you start making mistakes if you don't take a break.
@OuroborosArmory
@OuroborosArmory 5 ай бұрын
I wear gloves when grinding, but only when freehand and no rest. This way it just throws my hand down
@ogi22
@ogi22 5 ай бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly. I love using gloves and it is also something you need to get used to. But I like wearing good gloves, tight fit, soft material with rubber coating of the palm. And while I would wear them when I work with angle grinder, I take them off when using actual grinding wheels, sanding belts, lathes or similar rotary tool, where I put my hands close to a rotary or fast moving surface. And I also change gloves to leather ones when welding or doing "hardcore" fun with hammers. And yes, I once put my fingers in a danger zone of a circular blade and I'm very happy it ended up only with a few small scars and one damaged fingernail. I was not wearing gloves and I could react by not having my hand pulled into the blade. I also love making wooden spoons and I never use gloves for knife carving, but I wear gloves for hatchet work. Last but not least. What you said about getting tired is absolutely true. I was tought by my dad "if you start looking for a screwdriver while holding it in your hand, it means it's time to end work for that day." And no, not "just two more nails or screws and I'm done". You are done now, put your tools in order, clean your work place and stop. I've seen people trashing many hours of work in last few minutes. Hell, I've done it myself a couple times. In automation we say "if you have to check the connection 3 times to be sure, it's time to go home". I can testify to that. It's better to do a job a little bit longer by taking a break and starting fresh, than trying to end it and ruining everything with one tiny mistake. You learn to do things safely when you work with big machines. There is always a team work and safety on your mind, because one mistake can hurt your friend badly or even kill him. Stay safe and enjoy work longer 😊
@asbrand
@asbrand 5 ай бұрын
The only gloves I wear around power tools are the thin, disposable nitrile gloves (like the ones from Harbor Freight). If something does catch...they just shred off your hand. They aren't structurally sound enough to pull your hand anywhere. But, they are good enough to keep little wire bits, or hot shavings (from wood turning) from my skin. Heck, I often rip 'em just trying to put one on.
@romamoran1337
@romamoran1337 5 ай бұрын
And they protect against splinters/dry skin from saw dust!
@creekninja
@creekninja 4 ай бұрын
You get burned from wood shavings??? 🤣😂🤣😂
@asbrand
@asbrand 4 ай бұрын
@@creekninja - Burned? No. Uncomfortably warm? Often. Why do you care?
@creekninja
@creekninja 4 ай бұрын
@@asbrand I “care” because I’ve been burned by 1,800°F steel, black hot chips, and too many embers in my eyes. I know what it feels like to be burned.
@usec32
@usec32 4 ай бұрын
@@creekninja bully for you
@markbryan9989
@markbryan9989 5 ай бұрын
I sometimes use Nitrile disposable gloves while using my lathe to protect my skin from hot wood chips.. They would tear away instead instantly if they caught on something. I have seen other turners using regular gloves but I think that poses the dangers you have outlined.
@onecalledchuck1664
@onecalledchuck1664 5 ай бұрын
I'd be worried about any kind of glove around a lathe. I've seen nitrile gloves wrap around a hand drill. I am very liberal with the use of plexiglass guards around my lathe. Still, I do sometimes get the hot shavings and chips on my leading hand. What I'd like to do is make a small plastic semi-circular guard I can put on the tool itself to deflect chips before they get near the hands. Something lightweight and moveable so that if it catches, it detaches from the tool, rather than lever the tool into the workpiece. I'll eventually mock something up with my 3D printer when I get a round2it.
@bryantaylor948
@bryantaylor948 5 ай бұрын
standard 5 mill nitrile gloves are actually safe since they are thin enough to rip away really easily if you are using them I use them when I'm adding polishing compounds or waxes to a project sometimes on a lathe usually with a drill though and I have had a few ripped off when I got too close to the drill chuck not usually the whole glove but a decent chunk of it will go.
@jmacca6906
@jmacca6906 5 ай бұрын
I use a very tight-fitting fingerless glove on my left hand as I know others do, primarily to prevent from hot stinging chips but also if I am grabbing the handwheel to slow the lathe down faster then it's that bit less 'iffy'. I don't put my hand anywhere near a spinning chuck and even if I did, I always ensure there's nothing loose on the glove whatsoever to be able to catch, the exact same as I would with an oil-rag. I've seen others use super stiff full-hand gloves but never found them comfortable, never had issues with fingers or full palm on the timber to feel and/or support it from behind a cut and until something major happens I suppose I'll continue in this fashion considering my lack of scare let alone harm so far.
@willguggn2
@willguggn2 5 ай бұрын
@@onecalledchuck1664 I think he means the flimsy disposable gloves that can rip if you put them on incorrectly. Not the heavy duty kind.
@DepressingMusicPlaylist-qz9gg
@DepressingMusicPlaylist-qz9gg 5 ай бұрын
I machine basically sandstone for one the jobs I do, and I also wear nitrile gloves because the material tears into my fingers after a while.
@CrazyTony65
@CrazyTony65 5 ай бұрын
I'm a machinist that discovered your channel from your machinists tools crossover videos. My first day on the job after tech school in 1990, the shop foreman showed me the 18" disk sander they used to radius cavity blocks (because I'd be doing it). The thing sounded like a jet engine starting up, Elephant brand, and then he threw an average red shop towel in the downward side. Gone so fast you could hardly see it, he then said "This is why we don't wear gloves in this shop". Needless to say, that lesson stuck. Saw a guys sleeve of his flannel shirt get caught in the drill in a geared head drill press, ripped his sleeve off.
@robertwazniak9495
@robertwazniak9495 5 ай бұрын
Sleeves are just as bad as gloves. I was the engineer on a job where we were installing tie-backs and a crew was warming up the auger on a Saturday morning… the auger was turning and a frayed cuff on his jacket got caught on the auger. By the time his workmate got to the emergency stop switch (just a foot away) the machine stuffed a 200 pound man into an 8 inch guide tube. Took DNA to identify him. Held his closed casket funeral the following Saturday instead of his wedding. Not something I ever want to go through again. I saw how it affected the two guys working with him that morning. I have never worn gloves or baggy/loose sleeves in my shop since around spinny things. Your momentary lapse affects more than just you.
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 5 ай бұрын
Problem with all these things is context - you holding a part made of thin sheet metal with sharp edges that must be restrained while the drill press operations are done might well be way way safer to use a glove that both helps you grip that part and protects you from the part being spun up on the occasions the drill snags - the sort of cutting forces involved being the ones a glove can protect you from and even if the part snags the glove the drill won't stay forever caught. But wearing those same gloves when that hand is near the tools rotating head where the gloves themselves can snag directly in the tool...
@cragonaut
@cragonaut 5 ай бұрын
​@@foldionepapyrus3441your example is where you use a clamp or a vice to hold the work piece, not a glove
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 5 ай бұрын
@@cragonaut Really not that simple, clamps and vices can't always be used practically, especially with sheet metal stuff, even more so in an environment where you cant take 20 mins a hole trying to find a position the clamp can actually get grip around this part.
@drysori
@drysori 5 ай бұрын
I'm a retired machinist. When I first started, a new hire started working on a mill with gloves. The supervisor saw him and fired him on the spot.
@alexanderandre-colton8276
@alexanderandre-colton8276 5 ай бұрын
My high school woodshop teacher once showed us a steel marking gauge that had run afoul of the table saw's carbide blade. It was immediately evident that a blade vs. a glove of any description would be no contest. 58 years later, i still have all my original equipment, lol.
@1steelcobra
@1steelcobra 5 ай бұрын
Those gloves are meant to keep you from slicing a fingertip off on a mandolin slicer or other non-powered blade task where it's all muscle power driving the blade and could save from an injury from a slipped motion.
@nouhorni3229
@nouhorni3229 5 ай бұрын
I don't get why people seem to think cut *resistant* means "immune to damage from powered tools/heavy machinery". That's a very optimistic approach to work safety. I like the rubber tipped ones for carving wood when I'm tired.
@Delimon007
@Delimon007 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I took one look at those gloves and those are not the proper gloves you should be wearing for this. . . Of course those types of gloves can get caught so wear the right ones for the job.
@ivanlagrossemoule
@ivanlagrossemoule 4 ай бұрын
@@nouhorni3229 Had I worn work gloves when sawing with a Japanese saw while being my dumbass self I would've probably avoided 2 stitches.
@balsalmalberto8086
@balsalmalberto8086 3 ай бұрын
Had I warn gloves while pumpkin carving I could have saved myself a scar or two.
@HelenaOfDetroit
@HelenaOfDetroit 5 ай бұрын
Just to help reiterate the point about "how fast" something bad can happen I present the time I almost lost my left hand to an angle grinder. I wasn't doing woodwork or even wearing gloves, but the entire time between "everything is good" and "angle grinder is on the floor after kicking back at me" was easily less than one full second. Fortunately, I had enough adrenaline, sense, and training to tourniquet the forearm and get myself to the ER. Also lucky to have such an amazing hand surgeon get me in so quickly. But the tendons will never be the same and no amount of morphine could dull the pain of a nurse rinsing out a gushing wound with cut and exposed nerve endings. After that level of pain, I could probably take a bullet wound and not cry. Lol Stay safe everyone! Even when you do "everything right" and take precautions, accidents happen. Just make sure you've got a good (and not outdated) First Aid kit handy and some method of getting aid to you in case you're unable to even use the phone because your hands no longer work.
@boiledelephant
@boiledelephant 5 ай бұрын
This was sobering, thank you.
@larryvergon6740
@larryvergon6740 4 ай бұрын
Reading this did things to my lower abdomen that cause shudders!
@creekninja
@creekninja 4 ай бұрын
And don’t work alone!!!
@ivanlagrossemoule
@ivanlagrossemoule 4 ай бұрын
Also it assumes you'll have "good sense" in a very short amount of time. Being on autopilot, distracted, wanting to finish something before you go eat, being used to a dangerous tool and so on can all cause accidents. It sounds stupid because it is, but no one is above stupidity. Absolutely no one is above it. Those who think they are above doing something stupid are just too stupid to realize they aren't. That's why you teach safety rules over and over until they become a reflex. And even then it can still happen.
@ivanlagrossemoule
@ivanlagrossemoule 4 ай бұрын
@@creekninja There are safety devices for when you work alone though if you don't have a choice. One being that phone thing old people use, that you tie to your belt that rings an alarm and calls for emergency if you fall unconscious. Had to wear one for work. It's a pain in the ass but I'd take that over bleeding to death while passed out.
@Kevin75668
@Kevin75668 5 ай бұрын
A piece of safety advice regarding box knives- they're most dangerous when you've just replaced the blade, as you get used to the higher cutting force of the old dull one. I got that nugget of wisdom from the E.R. doctor who was stitching my hand back together after I put just such a knife, with a shiny new blade, as deep as it could go into the base of my thumb, right through a heavy leather glove. Also, if you're ever sharpening a reel lawnmower, clamp the reel in place while you're setting it up and have your fingers near the chopping zone. Learned that one the hard way too.
@psgouros
@psgouros 5 ай бұрын
Important lesson we learned freshman year of art school, replace your blade often. We bought x-acto blades in the 100 pack so we never worked dull.
@trevorodell5564
@trevorodell5564 5 ай бұрын
I taught my Boy Scouts in basic knife safety that the most dangerous knife is a dull one, because it's so easy to lose control of...then I made a point of dramatically correcting myself, and explaining that a sharp knife which you Expect to be dull is infinitely more dangerous. I can only hope the lesson stuck.
@zaxmaxlax
@zaxmaxlax 5 ай бұрын
Bad pratice to use your thumb as a blade stop
@joeligma4721
@joeligma4721 5 ай бұрын
@@trevorodell5564 Sorry sir it didn't i lost my finger
@grimeybeast1465
@grimeybeast1465 5 ай бұрын
"Have you ever gotten this close to disaster," Yes, about six years ago, and I WAS wearing gloves. I had just turned the saw OFF (Thank God!) and the blade was spinning down. I lost focus for half a second, my hand got too close, the glove snagged, and yanked my fingers into the still-spinning blade. Two of my fingers were broken, one in multiple places, and gruesomely lacerated. The flexor tendon in my middle finger was almost completely severed. Thankfully here was still a couple of millimeters of flesh there, or, I would have required surgery. Today those fingers are mildly disfigured and arthritic, but I am blessed to have been spared a true disaster. I haven't used a table saw since. In fact, I basically stopped woodworking completely until a few months ago. I'm only just now realizing how much I've missed this hobby. Even still I will not be using a table saw again until I can afford one with decent protections on it. It doesn't have to be a Sawstop, but it will NOT be a filthy-cheap one like the one that almost ruined me. Be blessed! 🙂
@woodificould
@woodificould 5 ай бұрын
I got my hand pulled into my tool not too long ago because of my glove. Lesson was learned the hard way, but luckily all my fingers survived. Now I'm a huge "no gloves around spinning parts" advocate
@kyfho47
@kyfho47 5 ай бұрын
Ditto. My left index finger is now useful for pointing around corners. Got caught and pulled into a spinning bit on a drill press by a whipping metal curl. Cut resistant, Kevlar gloves were MANDATORY at my work place.
@Robyrob7771
@Robyrob7771 5 ай бұрын
@@kyfho47 We also have a mandatory glove policy but not around anything that spins/turns.
@autumn5592
@autumn5592 5 ай бұрын
I've had my ungloved hand sucked into a wood lathe. Admitidly entirely my fault, but I would never wear gloves around shit like this for that reason, I can't imagine how much worse it would have been with gloves. I will wear gloves with an angle grinder with a grinding or cutoff wheel though just to save the sparks. Sometimes a dremel too, because there's not really enough power in that to cause harm.
@joeligma4721
@joeligma4721 5 ай бұрын
@@kyfho47 i mean its good for saving time when someone asks directions to something thats around the corner
@MannyBrum
@MannyBrum 5 ай бұрын
In Soviet Russia, tool pulls hand.
@1963uspl
@1963uspl 5 ай бұрын
40 years ago I watched a man lose his arm by being pulled into a plate roller by his glove. No gloves would have meant losing the tip of his finger. Gloves and moving machinery of any sort can be deadly
@PGspeed88
@PGspeed88 5 ай бұрын
I had a boss tell about his experience in a sheet metal shop. A new guy had gloves on feeding sheets into a roller to make them into tube shapes. The boss told him he could wear gloves to move around stock, but never when operating a machine because it could pull him in. The new guy told him it's a slow machine and he'll just slip his hand out of the glove. Boss said "Oh really?" and asked for his gloved hand. He adjusted some vice grips and squeezed a finger. "Ok, this is the machine once you get caught, go ahead and slip out". Of course it didn't work, and the boss took one of the gloves and fed it through the roller, flattening it. "That's why I better not see you wearing gloves around a machine again. The machine will win and you will lose."
@garygalt4146
@garygalt4146 5 ай бұрын
I watch as an apprentice toolmaker have his hand dragged into a grinder because of the glove. We had too hold him up while we dismantled the grinder. He was lucky we hit the power button quickly he got away with cuts but kept his fingers broke his wrist and lots of blood but could off been a lot worse.
@boiledelephant
@boiledelephant 5 ай бұрын
@@garygalt4146 I applaud you all for dealing with it efficiently. A lot of people aren't lucky enough to have colleagues who think fast when things go wrong.
@dreamcanvas5321
@dreamcanvas5321 5 ай бұрын
@@PGspeed88 Good on him for demonstrating the danger. Much easier to take seriously and remember that way then if he just ordered b/c the new guy might've just gotten complacent.
@MaakaSakuranbo
@MaakaSakuranbo 3 ай бұрын
@@PGspeed88So basiucally we need to coat the inside of gloves with oil
@guapsbull
@guapsbull 5 ай бұрын
Funny story about your last example - i was wearing gloves while using a wire brush in my drill. It caught my glove and gave me a good scare. No serious injury because my drill's torque setting was very low, but it scared me enough to realize this is a real issue. I don't wear gloves with spinny tools anymore (which is most of them). Thanks for the great video!
@morgan5941
@morgan5941 5 ай бұрын
I prefer wearing gloves when using a wire wheel. I'm often using it for small parts that require my hands to get really close to the wheel. I can feel the wires tear into my leather gloves if I get a little too close. I wouldn't wear cloth gloves around it though. I've had a rag get ripped from my hands when it got too close to a pump shaft.
@Milkmans_Son
@Milkmans_Son 5 ай бұрын
@@morgan5941 Seriously, what gauge wire wheels are you guys using? Just because it strips paint doesn't mean it strips skin. I make contact when cleaning up bolt heads all the time. It doesn't break the skin, and I work with computers all day. If you prefer the risk of possible amputation to the risk of possible abrasion, you need to reevaluate your preferences. I'm not selling anything. I have no reason to lie. You have either seen it happen or you haven't. I have, you obviously haven't.
@morgan5941
@morgan5941 5 ай бұрын
@@Milkmans_Son It's like an eight-inch wire wheel on a 60 year old bench grinder. The wires are thick enough that you'll wear out the grinding wheel first and it will dull any sharp edge with ease, but it has a lot of stray wires that you can't see when it's spinning. And if it will cut through leather gloves, you can damn well be sure the wires will cut through skin. I'm sure it I got into hard enough, it would suck the gloves through. But I'm not that stupid.
@shaun5552
@shaun5552 5 ай бұрын
@@morgan5941 30 years ago I was in the same workshop as someone who had a rag ripped by a milling machine. Long story short an ambulance was called, they were taken to hospital, and as of a few years ago still had the scars.
@larryvergon6740
@larryvergon6740 5 ай бұрын
Back in the late '70's I worked in the engineering department of a metal working machine tool manufacturer. They had a large machine shop and made most of the parts for the machines we sold. They also assembled most of the machines in the same facility. I did not witness this, nor hear the actual scream from the metal lathe operator this happened to, but it is a true story. The lathe operator was wearing gloves and he reached out to grab the part he had just completed turning. The machine had not stopped turning and the glove caught on the part. His whole, middle finger was pulled from his hand at the joint connecting to his hand and the glove finger was ripped from the glove. The finger was in the glove finger, I do not know if surgeons were able to reattach it. They said you could hear him scream across the whole factory floor. The engineering department was located in the basement, so we did not hear it.
@charlieschuder9976
@charlieschuder9976 4 ай бұрын
I remember working a meat processing facility when I went to sneak a smoke break...dude ran up the stairs screaming bloody murder, with a guy following at a close pace with his hand over a styrofoam cup yelling, "WAIT! I GOT YOUR FINGER!" Got his finger caught in a belt. It got reattached, doh.
@genericacct1
@genericacct1 5 ай бұрын
I work in a window manufacturing plant, and our safety manager wanted to mandate glove use on table saws, miter saws and routers, in addition to when handling glass. It didn't take long to show her the countless testimonials of gloves and rotary machines not mixing.
@skilletborne
@skilletborne 5 ай бұрын
@@LupusMechanicus You're feeding the problem talking like that I've met enough women whose problem was misogyny causing them to act reckless Her fault was that she was inexperienced, cocksure, and didn't do due diligence in researching. Social issues might have contributed to that outcome, but ovaries hardly make it impossible to learn to be good at your job, and having a knob and balls sure as hell doesn't give men instinctual safety sense
@johnhill8958
@johnhill8958 5 ай бұрын
​@@LupusMechanicussometimes they know way more than the boys do. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes they are there for entertainment purposes, sometimes they are there to foster a lawyer's income. Regardless, they are no different than the boys.
@valeriehenschel1590
@valeriehenschel1590 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@LupusMechanicus”Why are men in the workplace? It’s all so tiring”. This comment and your comment make about as much sense as, well, nothing. His comment applies equally well to both men and women safety managers who mean well but don’t know better. Unnecessary for you to make an uncalled for sexist comment.
@jdmjesus6103
@jdmjesus6103 5 ай бұрын
How do you get to be a safety manager without knowing the dangers of gloves and power tools? That's basically the whole job in some places.
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer 5 ай бұрын
@@jdmjesus6103 I worked for an international company with a highly regarded safety program. For years we were forced (as in firing) to ALWAYS wear safety gloves. And then they changed their policy. It's got nothing to do with stupidity.
@jong2359
@jong2359 5 ай бұрын
Oh boy, gonna be a lot of back and forth about this video, haha. Personally, you should always practice as if you don't have protective gear on - even when you do. I have never worn gloves in the wood shop because if my saw blade can cut bar-stock aluminum, there isn't a glove in existence that will safely prevent an injury.
@foobar3139
@foobar3139 5 ай бұрын
Seems to me gloves on protect against splinters
@usedcarsokinawa
@usedcarsokinawa 5 ай бұрын
I wear gloves only when cutting metal for heat protection. I feel like gloves reduce my feel of the project and I’ve got caught in a machine before. Then again, the gloves did protect me. Thankfully it was @ cheap, underpowered machine. Then again, I was pushing harder because it was underpowered. 😂😂😂
@blu2697
@blu2697 5 ай бұрын
Iron man’s gloves 😂
@AngelaAtLarge
@AngelaAtLarge 5 ай бұрын
​@@foobar3139The occasional splinter is a lot less expensive than a glove pulling your hand into a moving blade.
@johnanthony2545
@johnanthony2545 5 ай бұрын
@@foobar3139rather have splinter and all my fingers to get splinters out with. Gloves have there place and I use them often. Table saw no thank you.
@greggerstner5599
@greggerstner5599 5 ай бұрын
I was at an arborist "workshop" years ago. One of the presenters was a Husqvarna rep and was there to promote chainsaw safety. Wore a full cut-resistant coveralls, which would kill you in the south (from heat). Chaps are a requisite for cutting on the ground. Gloves for better grip. Eye, ear and skull protection, always. I spotted a Husqvarna sharpener and, familiar with that tool, asked the presenter to discuss too-low depth gauges, because I knew that tool would do that to chains, making them a lot more grabby and more prone to kickback. He admitted that his 70cc husky did indeed have low drags and went on to discuss that danger. The presentation progressed outdoors to show us how chaps worked. A sacrificial pair were strapped to a pine log. That 70cc saw was applied and never missed a beat -- sliced through chaps, bark, wood. So glad he didn't try to use his own leg. Some well-known full-time turners use padded fingerless gloves for vibration dampening. It's tempting to use regular gloves when turning dry wood to avoid the chips peppering your hands. Sometimes changing the tool angle a tad will send such chips in another direction. Thanks for another wonderful and important video
@billfromgermany
@billfromgermany 5 ай бұрын
I always wear tight fitting „machinists“ gloves. Stretch fabric with rubber coating on palms and fingers. But I am a hobby woodworker (40+ years but still hobby) and am VERY conscious of the dangers of machines. Since I am never under time pressure in the workshop, I take the time to carefully consider every action, and if it‘s a repetitive one, or if I have concerns about getting too close to the action, I knock up hold-downs, featherboards etc. I see gloves as a safety feature as they not only protect my very old skin, but also improve my grip on a workpiece. Nonetheless, an excellent video with very wise advice. What a surprise from Stumpy!😂 (This is irony for you Americans😉)
@koopdi
@koopdi 5 ай бұрын
I like your approach. If an action cannot be performed safely with gloves -- consider a different method that is glove safe.
@toddshinn4955
@toddshinn4955 5 ай бұрын
Sir, your videos are always worth the time it takes to watch, yes, all the way to the end. I appreciate you and your work !
@BobHerres
@BobHerres 5 ай бұрын
TY So well said, I fully agree.
@JW-mx3qg
@JW-mx3qg 5 ай бұрын
Indeed! This is such a fundamental issue on safety, and I just love the way he presented the pro/con of both sides, yet balanced in the opinions and views. I really hope this video gets a lot of views since it will help not only pro’s but especially novices to woodworking.
@vintageflatulence150
@vintageflatulence150 5 ай бұрын
I wear gloves ONLY to handle material where I might get splinters from handling, like plywood. I NEVER wear gloves when operating power equipment. I undershand the danger from power machines pulling my hands into danger with gloves. Thank you @StumpyNubs for the great information you provide.
@contestwill1556
@contestwill1556 5 ай бұрын
I am too lazy to do it most of the time but I should, plywood splinters freaking suck
@garymiller5937
@garymiller5937 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the reminder Stumpy. I never wear gloves except for moving lumber around, to unload my truck and stack wood, etc. I had a boss who preached familiarity breeds contempt, and I've never forgotten it. Think through every step before completing it, with a focus on what could ever possibly go wrong! You always give fabulous advice. 😊😊😊❤❤
@herbertliedel7019
@herbertliedel7019 5 ай бұрын
One of our classes as Medical First Responders in a rural area was on farm machinery. We were showed how quickly a farmer could be pulled into corn-pickers or combines, with no chance to let go of the items they were hanging onto, let alone if it was a piece of clothing that was being pulled in.
@PeopleAlreadyDidThis
@PeopleAlreadyDidThis 2 ай бұрын
I knew of a guy who was having trouble with a round baler. He’d removed an access cover on top. So he climbed up there with the baler running and his Rolex watch slipped off his wrist into the baler. He instinctively lunged for it and lost his entire arm. He then sued the baler manufacturer, claiming unsafe equipment. Of course, the true moral is to exercise total focus, avoid those gut reactions, and train yourself to never lunge…as best you can.
@livinaftermidnight9651
@livinaftermidnight9651 5 ай бұрын
Much like your Kevlar reference. I once had a vacuum salesman touting the durability of Lexan. I told him I would buy the vacuum if he could tell me what Lexan is. I didn't buy the vacuum. Moral of the story, don't get sucked in by trade names.
@adrianhenle
@adrianhenle 5 ай бұрын
I had a pair of aramid fiber forearm sleeves as part of my PPE for a job once, and to prove to a skeptic that they would protect me from serious cuts, I repeatedly slashed at the sleeve (on my arm) with my pocket knife. The teeth on the serrated part gave me a nice series of scratches, as they pushed aside the cut-resistant fibers. Definitely useful protective gear, but all protective gear is made to work under specific circumstances, and will not work far outside of that scope.
@B_Van_Glorious
@B_Van_Glorious 5 ай бұрын
For those that don't know, aramid is the generic name of kevlar. It's really only good at dispersing energy from impact, I wouldn't trust it to protect from slicing or stabbing.
@boiledelephant
@boiledelephant 5 ай бұрын
This is interesting and dispiriting. I've been using sleeves like that to protect myself when using a silky pruning saw - forearm and hand back hits are very common. I hadn't considered that they wouldn't be effective against a serrated blade.
@houstonsam6163
@houstonsam6163 5 ай бұрын
As always, some of the best content for woodworkers on the web, particularly about power tool use. Many thanks for maintaining such an effective focus on keeping us safe.
@steveneastman813
@steveneastman813 5 ай бұрын
One of the best safety reminders ever. Not just regarding gloves but the speed at which these accidents happen. Thank you!
@kashel83
@kashel83 5 ай бұрын
I am sincerely thankful for this video and even for the debate it may create. I love woodworking but ironically I'm also very scared of power tools and anything that can chop a finger, hand, or arm. So anything that keeps me on my toes and cares for my safety will always be appreciated
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 ай бұрын
No need to be scared. Just take time to learn and follow the rules and use the tool's safety devices. That will eliminate 95% of the risk.
@Epicentr
@Epicentr 5 ай бұрын
I agree, working with power tools has always brought out my instinctual fear. It's not that I won't use them, it's that it makes me VERY CAREFUL. My dad is a woodworker and my older brother is a framer, they both do stuff that scares the daylights out of me but they feel comfortable and decades of experience that THEY have is better than the decades that I don't.
@dcmirk
@dcmirk 5 ай бұрын
Never lose that fear my friend, its been keeping me safe for years. Complacency happens when you no longer fear/respect the tool.
@andrewj5998
@andrewj5998 5 ай бұрын
Fear can make you tense, which can actually increase the risk of an injury. Try to approach your power tools with respect and good preparation instead of fear. Know the potential risks and try to reduce them. Alwaye rehearse the cut or woodworking operation in my mind before executing it for real (this also helps cut down on mistakes). Keep your workplace uncluttered and well lit. Never rush or work while tired or distracted. The project will always be waiting there tomorrow.
@dcmirk
@dcmirk 5 ай бұрын
@@StumpyNubs I disagree. That fear keeps me hyper vigilant every time I power up my table saw, and I am always conscious to make my cuts by other safer means if I can avoid the table saw.
@immanuelkuhrt8508
@immanuelkuhrt8508 5 ай бұрын
When I started wearing a watch, I bumped it into all sorts of things for a while. It taught me how finely tuned my body had become at knowing exactly how much space I had before hitting a door frame or other object. I can see how one might get just a bit too close to things one is used to be in safe distance of without gloves.
@howardyounger5456
@howardyounger5456 5 ай бұрын
i think you are right about wearing gloves. i was a welder for many years. wearing gloves when i ground made it hard for me to hold on to the grinder. so you had to be careful. thanks for the video. I beleave that you have save a few people from loosing fingers. THANKS.
@mparchive8808
@mparchive8808 5 ай бұрын
A long time ago, the company I worked for sponsored a habitat for humanities house. I volunteered to work the table and miter saws. The other guy working the saws insisted on wearing gloves. I guess he got so tired of hearing me tell him to take the gloves off, that he got pissed and went home. But…he went home with all his fingers. I consider that a win.
@garychaiken808
@garychaiken808 5 ай бұрын
Unless I’m doing demolition work I don’t want gloves. Good job. Thank you 😊
@hecciethump
@hecciethump 5 ай бұрын
I am an electrician by trade, woodworker by preference :) When I worked on building sites the Health and Safety Police would ALWAYS insist on everyone wearing gloves, all the time. No exceptions. These clowns have no idea. I will wager not a single one of them have ever tried wiring up anything or worked in a distribution board while wearing clunky gloves. All they are doing is covering their own backsides without any thought whatsoever on the actual risks involved. I always felt sorry for the carpenters who were forced to wear gloves while using jobsite table saws, planers, routers and all sorts of other rotary tools. I never felt sorry for plumbers though. Electricians and plumbers don't mix!! :)
@annelarrybrunelle3570
@annelarrybrunelle3570 5 ай бұрын
Should have been turned in to OSHA. And maybe sued. Requiring a dangerous practice when you're the safety bozo is just plain incompetence and negligence.
@jmackmcneill
@jmackmcneill 5 ай бұрын
That is really bad, because "Gloves=Bad" is almost lesson No1 of H&S... if they are that ignorant, it indicates they have zero actual training in H&S.
@Croz89
@Croz89 Ай бұрын
A pair of thin gloves isn't a bad idea for electrical work as it can provide a bit of extra resistance if you touch something live. But I appreciate it doesn't make that much of a difference.
@olehaugan9555
@olehaugan9555 5 ай бұрын
I will keep this in mind. A thick winter glove probably saved my hand when i fell on top of my chainsaw. My hand hit the bar and the outer layer went flying. The outer and inner layer was cut but my hand unscathed.
@howardgresham1975
@howardgresham1975 5 ай бұрын
Years ago my chainsaw tutor described the 'steel toecap syndrome '. This is when you cut closer to your feet because of the false security provided by the safety boots. His suggestion was to wear the boots but imagine that you are wearing flipflops (plastic sandals). Certainly focuses the mind! But with power tools I understand the extra hazard of the glove pulling your hand into the blade. I always wear gloves for glue, stains, paint etc.
@FuckGoogle502
@FuckGoogle502 5 ай бұрын
In my experience, the steel toes can definitely get you in trouble. I went though a log one time and hit my boot that I'd stupidly had under the log, holding it up. The saw bounced off the steel toe, tried to get bound up and kicked back and up into my leg. Luckily, I had let off the throttle when I got through the log and the chain just got stuck and stopped in my bib overalls. Gave me a bruise and a good lesson.
@noturfather1106
@noturfather1106 4 ай бұрын
I wear bogs and gloves while chainsawing, havent gotten any toe trims or finger poppers yet
@larryleitner8658
@larryleitner8658 5 ай бұрын
I agree 100% , don"t use them with cutting tools, what I teach is the use of Anti-Vibe gloves when doing sanding for hours. You don't go home with sore wrists.
@j.dietrich
@j.dietrich 5 ай бұрын
"The wearing of gloves increases the risk of entanglement and is never acceptable near rotating parts of machinery" - UK Health and Safety Executive I use cut-resistant gloves in my workshop for handling sheet metal. I keep them in a drawer, I only put them on for that specific task and I remove them immediately afterwards. If you do an image search for "hand entanglement injury", you'll understand why.
@theprogenesis2000
@theprogenesis2000 5 ай бұрын
I've lost a finger to a track saw without gloves, and I can tell you that if I was wearing gloves it's likely I'd have 1 more finger missing minimum with a pretty good possibility of up to all fingers being gone depending on how hard a glove could catch. Gloves off when near anything that spins.
@josefwikstrom4987
@josefwikstrom4987 5 ай бұрын
my cousin who is around 9 years older than me studied to be a metal worker and when he had an internship at a metal workshop he used a drill press while wearing gloves. when he was going to sweep away the metal shavings, the glove touched the drill, causing the hand to get stuck. but luckily a co-worker was just passing by and saw what was happening, he quickly hit the emergency stop within maybe 1-3 seconds. if he hadn't passed by just when it happened, the whole arm would probably have been "torn loose". after that he ended up having many operations and the hand is in good condition today. thank God. but even today at the school I go to you always hear about him as an example of how you should never use gloves when using machines
@joshualee8656
@joshualee8656 5 ай бұрын
In 2014 I was one of the 750,000 individuals that got injured with woodworking. As stated in this video, when things go wrong they got wrong fast and a person does not have time to think or react.
@Trust_me_I_am_an_Engineer
@Trust_me_I_am_an_Engineer 5 ай бұрын
Very, very good advice, James. I wear gloves when getting rough timber out of storage. For everything else eye and ear protection and a real dust mask with cartridges. Because it takes less time to put them on and off than it takes to dig a splinter out of my fingers or out of my eye. Love your channel, James!
@Robyrob7771
@Robyrob7771 5 ай бұрын
Years ago I worked in a industrial plant that had a gloves all the time policy. Their numbers supported the policy in that it paid for itself (suppling 100s of employees with various gloves) in saved injuries. My current job also has a gloves on policy but not near anything that spins!
@andrewj5998
@andrewj5998 5 ай бұрын
I love your safety videos. No macho disregard for safety, while at the same time, no fear mongering. Just solid advice based on study of real world experiences. I only use gloves with my quarter sheet sander, random orbital sander, and angle grinder with a sanding disk and safety guard installed. They're tight fitting with palm padding designed to reduce fatigue and numbness due to vibration. I'm especially careful with the angle grinder - I respect that tool's destructive power as much as my tablesaw.
@chucknorris277
@chucknorris277 5 ай бұрын
Bahahaha don't worry nobody thinks your macho
@sween187
@sween187 5 ай бұрын
Nitrile/latex gloves are good, safe your hands from specialy from chemical, easy to keep your hands clean
@SamoMalo2
@SamoMalo2 5 ай бұрын
I always use cheap nitrile gloves for those reasons. My hands are clean when I work on greasy power tools, if I tear one, just pick another.
@dcmirk
@dcmirk 5 ай бұрын
What about sweaty? Do they keep your hands from getting sweaty and pruned up? lol
@larrygardner53018
@larrygardner53018 5 ай бұрын
Your safety videos are always clear, to the point, and valuable to all of us. Keep 'em coming!
@951WoodworkDesigns-bx4kn
@951WoodworkDesigns-bx4kn 5 ай бұрын
When I first started to get into woodworking, the first tools I bought in one day was a table saw, bandsaw and jointer. I also bought a good pair of gloves to protect my soft hands. The first time I used the jointer, I started pushing a board through and instantly the glove on my left hand was gone! The glove came into contact with the cutter and stripped it from my hand. To say I soiled my pants would be an understatement. I shit my pants, my heart was banging in my chest, and I felt sick to my stomach. I don’t know why my hand wasn’t pulled into the cutter, but I can’t begin to tell you how thankful I not only still had my hand, but not even a small cut! I’ve never worn gloves again in the shop. Of course, that doesn’t mean I’ve never done stupid things after the glove incident. I’m missing a small chunk of one finger because I wasn’t using an out-feed table, stand or roller on my table saw while trying to rip a long board by myself. The end of the board tipped down on the back of the saw, I pushed down to get the board back on the blade, and I didn’t think about the fact there was a blade spinning under that board and the side of my finger made contact with the blade. Let me tell you, a saw blade does not leave a nice straight cut on skin and, when the adrenaline subsides after driving yourself to the hospital dripping blood all over the car and hospital floor, it freak’n hurts to lose a piece of finger and, the numbing shot they put in the mangled finger is enough to make a grown man cry. I’ve learned not to take any chances around machines as they can inflict some life changing damage, or even kill you. I got lucky as I kept my finger, but I know a guy that took the safety shoe off his circular saw so he could make cuts faster. One day he was ripping a sheet of plywood fastened vertically on a house, the saw kicked back and planted itself in his chest. At that time circular saws allowed you to slide a knob on the trigger so you didn’t have to hold the trigger (perhaps they’re still made that way), but the saw continued to spin while buried in his chest. He didn’t live through that. Never, ever take chances with tools, especially those that spin and, especially those with blades!
@JAndersonGhost0326
@JAndersonGhost0326 5 ай бұрын
I had a Dremel engraver I'd just finished using kick back and head straight for my throat the other day. Not entirely sure what it caught on, but the only thing that stopped it was getting wrapped in my sweatshirt. This stuff happens in the blink of an eye, stay safe!
@paulfrost8952
@paulfrost8952 5 ай бұрын
I use my Dremel with a foot switch now, after it got caught in my t-shirt. Now if it gets caught in anything I just lift my foot off the switch to cut the power.
@UrBasicGuy
@UrBasicGuy 5 ай бұрын
While using a wire wheel on a drill to remove old paint from a door hinge the drill jumped and the spinning wire wheel grabbed the top of my glove wrapped it up to the cuff and then traveled to the inside of the glove and across the top of my hand. I was truly amazed at how fast it all happened, so fast i felt pressure from the wheel on my hand but not the pain. By the time i was able to remove the glove the pain had started to set in and the blood was flowing freely. I lost a sizable amount of skin and a little flesh. By the grace of god i just barely missed a major vein. Glove wasn't my main mistake but it didn't help any. My main mistake was holding the hinge in one hand while using the drill and wire wheel in the other instead of doing the right thing and clamping the hinge to a surface. All because i was in a hurry and it was only going to take a minute or so which ended up costing me more time and money with a E.R. visit. While it's healed now there will always be a sizeable scar to remind me not to be so stupid.
@picksalot1
@picksalot1 5 ай бұрын
As a musician, I usually wear gloves when working with "hand tools" to prevent nicks, cuts, abrasions, and splinters. I always try to make cutting motions away from my body, hands, and fingers when drilling, cutting, sanding, or carving, but, sometimes this seems impossible. Maybe you can share some tips on how to always make safe movements and strategies when working with small pieces of wood, etc. Thanks
@mawe42
@mawe42 5 ай бұрын
With power tools you use thin Latex gloves. They protect against chemicals and light scruffing, yet they just tear off if caught.
@andrewgroom1806
@andrewgroom1806 5 ай бұрын
I had a glancing encounter with a table saw on one finger tip ( yep, it needed stitches) and there is no way I would ever wear gloves around any rotating machinery. Stumpy talks absolute sense.
@allaboutcanines
@allaboutcanines 5 ай бұрын
I had such a wake up call from wearing gloves on a cold day to hold a screw, which got caught up in the bit & wrapped my glove in it. Not cutting, but now I hold the screw with un-gloved hand. Good lesson. Eye coverage is non-negotiable.
@robstephens
@robstephens 5 ай бұрын
Back when I worked at a power plant, a unit operator went into the machine shop one night used a sander similar to the one in your video to grind a piece of metal for a personal project. He got his gloved hand caught in it and had to shut it off to get his hand out. It ground his fingers almost down to the bones before he could get his hand out.
@rayfast
@rayfast 5 ай бұрын
You made some good points in this video about how wearing gloves while operating power tools can make an accident worse, but I think you could have spent more tie talking about how working bare-handed can help avoid accidents and close calls in the first place. I almost never wear gloves while using power tools. I might wear them occasionally while using a chain saw or wood chipper to protect my hands from briars, but I am always on high alert while doing so and take them off as soon as I can. My reason for not wearing gloves is simple. Wearing gloves while working with power tools would be a lot like wearing sunglasses or blinders. I rely on my sense of sight to be safe. Anything that reduces my ability to see what I'm doing reduces my ability to do it safely. I rely just as much on my sense of touch. Movement, shifting, or vibration in the work that might not be perceptible visually can often be picked up by the fingertips. Gloves can protect, but they also reduce the sensitivity of the fingers and hands. If I'm wearing gloves, I might miss something that could cause an error in my work or (worse), an injury to me.
@trurex007lee7
@trurex007lee7 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the reminder, I needed this especially now in the cold of the garage and the desire to work in it and keep my hands warm.
@trinidadscorpion3835
@trinidadscorpion3835 5 ай бұрын
Your videos always deliver important and valuable information. Thanks!
@tomsmith3045
@tomsmith3045 5 ай бұрын
This was a good video. In the old days, shop managers would never let anyone use gloves around power tools of any sort. That's back when they were lax about most safety things, especially hearing protection. But the lessons learned from people getting pulled into machinery from gloves or loose clothing were learned the hard way and passed down.
@bernkondret9981
@bernkondret9981 5 ай бұрын
This is an important video. Thanks for putting it out. You are consistent about safety and have probably saved many from injury!
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the safety tips James. Pay attention folks, it can happen faster than you can react. Stay safe. Fred.
@jamesfetherston1190
@jamesfetherston1190 5 ай бұрын
Wayyyy faster than you can react. I often listen to a podcast featuring a neurologist. He says our brains basically “construct” what is happening in the present by mixing what we experience milliseconds ago along with a certain amount of anticipating the future. So with things that happen in milliseconds, we have no way of reacting-it’s already done.
@FrankenShop
@FrankenShop 5 ай бұрын
I always wear gloves when using a bench grinder with a wire wheel because I was over getting the kinds of ragged scrapes I would get when the work piece caught the wheel and the wire bristles bit into my skin. Being rough scrapes instead of clean slits (like from a knife), they always took a couple of weeks to heal and were quite painful. Does that mean I'm risking my gloved hand getting pulled into the wire wheel someday? Perhaps, but that is a chance I'm willing to take.
@tdck2978
@tdck2978 5 ай бұрын
I have been cut on a tablesaw a few times. Luckily it was just a nick. I've had a cutting disk explode and leave some deep cuts in my hand. I have been lucky. As you said, it's everyone's choice. There are times when I wear gloves and times that I don't. I know that I should wear them more than I do. Love your channel.
@TheMilfMoncher
@TheMilfMoncher 5 ай бұрын
Working in a machine shop, my solution to this problem has become wearing latex or nylon gloves during most activities. The thinking being that they will rip long before they grab. Cut proof gloves only come into play when stoning parts or moving material
@jimrosson6702
@jimrosson6702 5 ай бұрын
Thank you James for always delivering such great knowledge about whatever subject you’re talking about and for sharing the good and the bad sides of things . Amazing job as always.
@alhogg1
@alhogg1 5 ай бұрын
The main reasons I will wear gloves are splinters/rough wood as you mentioned and to make my hands less slippery. I've had wood slip when I'm barehanded and that has felt unsafe so I started using gloves. Tight fitting with rubberized fingers and palms. Now I'm rethinking that. The final reason is to protect my hands while using a random orbital Sander. I just find that I've scrapped my hands too many times when sanding smaller parts as one hand holds the part and the other works the sander. I think that is a fairly safe and wiser use of gloves. But as always, I love how you state your thoughts and then leave it up to us to decide what we think is best. Thanks James/Stumpy. You rock
@JF_Projects
@JF_Projects 5 ай бұрын
I am a woodworker for more than 40 year and I never ever use gloves on power tools, and I alway's tel other people to do also, it's so dangerous. Great video, and yes I still have all ten fingers...
@ukestudio3002
@ukestudio3002 5 ай бұрын
I’m not a careless person and very cautious (fearful at times) around power tools. have been saved injury by cloth gloves let alone leather gloves from power sanders and such. Just long enough to pull my hand from harms way. I often picture what the damage would have been to my skin when i glance at the glove’s abrasion. Thank you for video.
@Woodwork-Learner
@Woodwork-Learner 5 ай бұрын
Your video has not changed my mind about wearing gloves. Just like as you say wearing gloves for certain tasks work but I don't wear them near any tool that can pull them in. There are of course exceptions, angle grinding for example, where wearing gloves can be needed. As you say it is a topic that will cause discussions for years. Keep up the great content.
@bourbonbear218
@bourbonbear218 5 ай бұрын
For work I had to wear gloves. We had a few types but the most dangerous ones I've ever worn were "break away" gloves. They'd fray and get caught around drill bits and would pull my hand in. Luckily the drills didn't have enough torque to hurt me. My rule is "if it can hurt me and spins no gloves no long sleeves"
@cuebj
@cuebj 5 ай бұрын
Excellent to mention long sleeves. Also - hair: keep it short or wear a hair net or similar - too much risk of being scalped or set on fire - at least burning hair stinks so you know it's happening
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 5 ай бұрын
That sounds pretty dire... crappy gloves only being prevented from hurting you by the equipment being even crappier.
@sanseijedi
@sanseijedi 5 ай бұрын
Plus I always take off my wedding ring & put it in my pants pocket.
@bourbonbear218
@bourbonbear218 5 ай бұрын
@@cuebj I've seen two women get scalped by a right angle drill. It was awful
@jimdeal6335
@jimdeal6335 5 ай бұрын
When using my tabletop planer, I almost always were a pair of Mechanix gloves with the leather palms and finger because I'm usually running some gnarly rough cut oak. That's really the only time I wear them, every other tool I ditch them. I like to think that I can feel if the wood or machine does something "funny" if I have bareskin contact with things, maybe it's just me hoping I'll spontaneously develop Force Sensitivity and become a Jedi, lol. Another great video!
@annelarrybrunelle3570
@annelarrybrunelle3570 5 ай бұрын
A clue: if there is a safe saw, it is a recip or a jigsaw. It's not that they can't cut you (and badly, at that, with the wrong blade), it's that the recip motion generally doesn't draw you in. A recip can, however, kill you differently when limbing a tree or doing demo - cut something loose wrongly, and it'll hit you on the way down. And, BTW, you can do a real number on your opposite-hand thumb using a plain ole handsaw.
@boiledelephant
@boiledelephant 5 ай бұрын
I work in arb and it surprised me somewhat to find that the experienced workers aren't scared of chainsaws nearly as much as they are of hand pruning saws, which cause the vast majority of injuries (because people are so complacent with them by comparison)
@TCoffman
@TCoffman 5 ай бұрын
I live in a northern state and it gets very cold. Thank you for this. I’ve used gloves several times working in the shop in the winter, this was very eye-opening.
@riangarianga
@riangarianga 5 ай бұрын
It's really good you cover this topic. I first learnt about it a couple of years ago, when another of my favourite woodworkers mentioned he stopped using gloves altogether when one of his fellow woodworkers actually lost a couple of fingers because gloves were caught in a rotary machine, despite having a quick reaction, while without gloves the damage would have been smaller, or in a best-case scenario there wouldn't have been any. It was an insightful presentation of the whole idea, there were lots of reasoning, pros/cons, and it definitely got me thinking. I need to get gloves to protect my soft skin from splinters, but now I always consider thoroughly how to achieve that goal without getting into unwanted risk with the rotary tool I'm working with.
@supermankent1041
@supermankent1041 5 ай бұрын
No Gloves and No Sleeves below my elbows when working close to rotary equipment.
@valvenator
@valvenator 5 ай бұрын
First rule when I took machine shop, no long sleeves or loose clothing. We had to wear a snug fitting apron, not only to keep our clothes clean but to keep from being dragged into a spinning tool.
@LarryShipley
@LarryShipley 5 ай бұрын
I found the video to be excellent. Working at Rockler, we offer the Sawstop, which is a topic worthy of its own discussion. I find it important to emphasize that 'Kevlar' gloves should not be considered a safety product for table saws, jointers or most other wood shop power tools. While Sawstop table saws are renowned for their safety features, it's crucial to exercise utmost caution and attention to safety when using even Sawstop, but especially around routers, bandsaws, jointers, and other table saws. Kevlar gloves do not provide a suitable safety solution and may, in fact, pose a greater risk in certain situations. Thanks for the confirmation.
@CeeJayThe13th
@CeeJayThe13th 5 ай бұрын
I firmly believe that you shouldn't wear gloves while using rotating equipment but I wouldn't stop anybody who insisted on it as I think you can do it safely if you're aware of the risks and what you're doing. Angle grinders are the one tool where I'm a little torn as I can easily see both sides there. However, I was just thinking: if you were like super safety conscious and tried using a SawStop while wearing gloves, I bet you could easily defeat the safety feature and completely mangle yourself that way.
@vimvigour3327
@vimvigour3327 5 ай бұрын
I like to wear latex medical gloves. They provide slight protection against splinters and crap getting under fingernails, but they tear easily when caught. Wearing them is still more dangerous than no gloves at all, but that's my compromise.
@robertnewell5057
@robertnewell5057 5 ай бұрын
I think that tactic is safe enough, but I don't speak from experience. I only wear latex gloves for chemical protection.
@jaro6985
@jaro6985 5 ай бұрын
"Wearing them is still more dangerous than no gloves at all, but that's my compromise." why? they tear as easy or easier than skin would. They are safer.
@vimvigour3327
@vimvigour3327 5 ай бұрын
@@jaro6985 They are stickier and stretchier than skin, so they will grab a spinning component more readily than skin and will continue pulling your arm in for longer and harder than skin.
@jaro6985
@jaro6985 5 ай бұрын
@@vimvigour3327 good point, though stretchier usually means less force.
@dinacusic7829
@dinacusic7829 5 ай бұрын
I wear gloves when handling rough wood. I hate splinters. However, when I'm using most tools (and depending on how cold my shop is), I usually don't wear them. I need to have a feel for the wood but if I'm just running a board through a planer to get down to the pencil marks I've made, gloves are on.
@catsshadows
@catsshadows 5 ай бұрын
Your opening statement got me hooked, was going to say that nothing will ever close out this debate. Then as always you finish with "you will need to deceid for yourself". Bravo young man.
@mehill00
@mehill00 5 ай бұрын
I was wearing gloves while using a power drain auger outside to clean up some roots and got my hand twisted around the cable. Just got bruising, but being stuck there slowly extricating my hand and witnessing the speed I went from free to entwined was enough to teach me about avoiding gloves and long sleeves.
@karlpopewoodcraft
@karlpopewoodcraft 5 ай бұрын
I talked about this recently in my table saw safety video, gloves should never be worn in my personal opinion when operating machinery. You made some great points Stumpy. There so many people on KZbin demonstrating dangerous techniques which new hobbyist watch and learn from.
@davidwilliams1060
@davidwilliams1060 5 ай бұрын
I was advised not to wear gloves when working with horses and ropes. By the time you realize that you’re caught, it’s too late to save whatever is caught. I carry that idea into woodworking.
@RafisStudio
@RafisStudio 5 ай бұрын
I did a hand-tool only woodworking course and the instructor repeatedly showed us his injured and rehabilitated hand to instill in us respect for our blades. It took a fortunately minor injury of my own for me to fully internalize the lesson. A wise man learns from his mistakes, but a truly smart one learns from those of others.
@DKWalser
@DKWalser 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for addressing one of my pet peeves. While I could craft a list of situations where it might be safe to wear gloves around spinning power tools, like table saws, lathes, and drill presses, those exceptions to the general to NOT wear gloves would be rare and far between. Rather than try to memorize such a list of exceptions, I think it's far better to not wear gloves. I know that I'd be more likely to misremember the list -- causing me to wear gloves when I shouldn't -- than I would be to always correctly apply the exceptions to the rule. That's the reason safety rules should be kept simple. Complex safety rules are unlikely to be properly remembered and consistently applied.
@kikixchannel
@kikixchannel 5 ай бұрын
Well, for one, there is no reason to not wear gloves for machines that are not on when you are doing things near moving parts of them, like some large-scale saws for cutting big material, or milling machines. Hard to forget since it's an entire category of situations where it's a-ok. Second, it's a question of what you value more for some. When I was working with metal (not wood, metal), it was a question of having guaranteed cuts on my hands that'd prevent me from grabbing anything at all for several days (and risk me getting an infection or something that could potentially lead to an amputation or death anyway) after a few hours of work, or having a higher risk of a catastrophic accident due to my gloves maybe getting stuck if I maybe fail to work safely, aka. bad luck must come in threes. Then again, I never lost 'respect' for the machines that had enough strength to grind my body (even if they didn't have the shape to accommodate that, instead just ripping off a part of it), so there's that. Reality is that many of the accidents of people with gloves would still have happened without them, and with similar/same results. And on the contrary, there would also pop up accidents caused by people not wearing gloves. Certainly higher number of smaller, temporal wounds. Though sure, the net amount of accidents would go down, but who can say that the actual harm would've been lower for sure? In the end, most accidents don't happen due to hardware and wear, but due to people willfully doing something stupid (like forcefully removing protection from machine to get their hands where they don't belong, working while drunk etc). If people are acting stupid, an accident is just a matter of time, gloves or no gloves.
@spartan3754
@spartan3754 3 ай бұрын
This guy did the whole video in one take and never said "um" or "like" or any other filler words. Truly amazing!
@spankyjeffro5320
@spankyjeffro5320 2 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with filler words.
@donevans1884
@donevans1884 5 ай бұрын
What a brilliant video , it is enough to make you think twice and that could save your life , thank you .
@packetlevel
@packetlevel 5 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT ANALYSIS - and so important that you did this! Hopefully all will think carefully.
@jonjohnson3027
@jonjohnson3027 5 ай бұрын
It's very contextual. Gloves may be a good idea when handling materials or even when using hand tools. The low speeds involved mean that a glove can easily stop an errant edge or blade from injuring your hand. But with power tools, it's the speed of the tool that bites you. The glove may protect you from the *initial* contact with the tool, but your hand will immediately be injured by the secondary effect of being trapped in a glove that is being yanked by the high speed tool. That's not to say that you should never wear gloves when using power tools. Like all matters of safety, it requires an awareness of risks balanced with appropriate mitigations.
@opumfrey7625
@opumfrey7625 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to hear more stories from people who have experienced these things. I’m not a fan of gloves in the workshop. They may work in some situations but I bet people don’t take them off when they head over to the table saw.
@woodificould
@woodificould 5 ай бұрын
I literally learned the glove lesson the hard way a few months ago. Luckily I got to keep all my fingers in the process, but it could have gone in the other direction really easily
@rickguerrero2282
@rickguerrero2282 5 ай бұрын
A friend of mine with decades of experience in the wood shop was wearing leather gloves as he ran splintery planks through his table saw. The blade caught a small corner of the thumb of his glove and sucked the thumb of the glove and the corner of his real thumb into the blade. He lost a small portion of the end of his thumb as a result of the accident. He said he would never use gloves while using power tools again.
@woodificould
@woodificould 5 ай бұрын
@@rickguerrero2282 😬 Oof, so sorry to hear that happened
@danmarshall5895
@danmarshall5895 5 ай бұрын
I never wear gloves out side of carry rough lumber or sheet goods. I grew up around a machine shop and my Dad wouldn't allow. He relented and let my sister wear a pair. Her hand got pulled into a drill bit, shredded the glove and tore her finger open down to the bone. You instinctually know where your finger ends, but a glove makes your hand very, very slightly bigger and god forbid you have a loose thread you didn't notice.
@opumfrey7625
@opumfrey7625 5 ай бұрын
@@rickguerrero2282 ouch! Thanks for sharing the story. Hope they’re doing ok.
@sullyprudhomme
@sullyprudhomme 5 ай бұрын
I wear gloves but I never imagined for one second that they would protect me from a table or miter saw. As someone who 'repurposes' previously used wood often, I have seen how easily these saws cut through a large nail that I had not removed. My major reason for wearing them is that my tools are in the garage which is not heated and being a bit older than you, the cold causes my hands to stiffen up. Indeed, I have often pre-visualized how a glove can catch or snag onto a spinning blade making me even more cautious. And yes, the splinters.
@tableseven8133
@tableseven8133 5 ай бұрын
The glove thing in many work places is a unique issue. Often it is the employer that does not want the expense. That aside, when you have a hand tool and it has two handles, keep both hands on the handles while it is being used, and don't remove the other handle or use a modified tool to eliminate the other handle.. This keeps your hands out of danger with or without gloves. Yes, the angle grinder it is wise to wear gloves to keep from the hot sparks or other parts flying off of the cut or the tool, I learned that one recently and had the burns for a while. My brother years ago had a large gash on his arm, claiming that the chine saw jumped back on him, maybe so, but if both hands were on the saw it could not have happened. Handling paper especially in a fast passed way, simple gloves that have the thin protective and grippy surface are most helpful. Paper cuts are light but they burn like fire ...
@steveshapland8846
@steveshapland8846 5 ай бұрын
As a sheet metal worker (in another life) I learned to never wear gloves. You lose the sensitivity to know when the work moves and alert you to let go. I do however wear a cut resistant glove when carving with a knife.
@Tommy.461
@Tommy.461 5 ай бұрын
As a retired metal worker that now hobbies as a woodworker, I wore gloves almost all the time in the fab shop but I found gloves get in the way except for when you're taking pallets apart or stacking your lumber. I keep my gloves handy but not on while operating a power saw.
@bradkerr2798
@bradkerr2798 5 ай бұрын
After a safety recommendation at our plant-site advised giving operators and warehouse staff gloves to prevent minor cuts from boxcutter slips and handling cardboard (no high-speed or rotary equipment), one of the operators promptly took his pair of expensive aramid gloves to the back room and came back a few minutes later out of breath and grinning with his gloves in pieces, having hacked them up to prove his point that they weren't "cut proof". Thanks bud.
@brianfreeman8290
@brianfreeman8290 5 ай бұрын
As always, a masterclass in presentation. You have no peers.
@tom314
@tom314 5 ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity I'd be very interested to see how the chainsaw gloves do actually live up to other power tools. I expect an expensive and messy test though and not a type of glove I'd want to wear anyway even when using a chainsaw. Around lathes and mills the only gloves I use are the very thin nitrile gloves but that's so I don't get as much cutting oil on my hands
@curtdrahn8522
@curtdrahn8522 5 ай бұрын
I wear gloves in my workshop. I need them as I am now over 80 and have been woodworking for over 50 yrs. I find good leather glove make it safer to handle wood as my grip is a bit less firm, so I find they improve my safety. I also live in a desert area with very low humidity, dry hands make it more difficult to handle wood due to dryness. I am very safety conscious, I use a blade guard on my table saw, a splitter kick back on my old Delta table saw, push blocks &sticks and the like. I resaw a lot of my wood on a big aggresive band saw I use push sticks, feather boards and remind my self how fast it can take the end off a push stick and keep my hand and finger away from the blade. Push sticks are expendable. I spend a lot of time in my shop with lots of power tools. Gloves for me are a necessary accessory. My one injury has been a small nick on one finger due to a stupid misuse of table saw. I call it my lucky ,smart nick, as I learned a valuable lesson. Your best safety item is your brain & common sense.
@flatlander523
@flatlander523 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree with everything you said. I wear gripper gloves when handling rough that have splinters. The only thing running in my shop at that time are my Stumpy Nubs videos.😊
@MakerBoyOldBoy
@MakerBoyOldBoy 5 ай бұрын
Thank you again for your detailed info. In many years working in furniture factories, wood shops, milling yards, etc i never wore gloves - they decrease grip strength, guaranteed to lose fingers with power machinery and destroy normal retrieval of small objects. They are invaluable in yard work trimming branches and limbs with small spines. They are also nice when riding motorcycles in the cold wind.
@GoAway-vj4vj
@GoAway-vj4vj 2 ай бұрын
This is one of the most important safety videos I have ever seen, thank you Stumpy Nubs. I am also very glad you don't have literal stumpy nubs.
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