This will make a BIG difference when you cut miters/bevels!

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Stumpy Nubs (James Hamilton)

Stumpy Nubs (James Hamilton)

Күн бұрын

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@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 3 жыл бұрын
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@softxpandguest708
@softxpandguest708 2 жыл бұрын
Could we maybe get a short video on feather boards and how to set them up effectively? I've never seen them before!
@soujrnr
@soujrnr Күн бұрын
As always, James, fantastic information with a flawless delivery. No frills, no foolishness; just pure fact-filled knowledge that will make ANY woodworker a better craftsman. I'm a rank amateur, so the only direction I can go is up, and I love that you have so many videos that are helping me move in the right direction. Thank you so much for all that you bring to the table(saw).
@hymandumas3901
@hymandumas3901 10 ай бұрын
This old Marine turned wood worker learns more every time I watch one of your videos than I do watching several from other professional wood workers. Thank you
@Laneboy007
@Laneboy007 Ай бұрын
Thanks for your clear and precise explanations and your awareness to problems that might occur and how to avoid them.
@bradfry5403
@bradfry5403 3 жыл бұрын
With all the different scenes in this episode it really highlighted how well you edit on your channel
@markproulx1472
@markproulx1472 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tips here. I also appreciate the fact that you get down to business instead of blathering on like numerous KZbinrs do. Finally, big thumbs up for not playing music during the video.
@ridercoachdanielle3220
@ridercoachdanielle3220 2 жыл бұрын
So much this. I spend an inordinate amount of time watching woodworking vids while I'm working on stuff I haven't yet done well, and I can't hang when the first three minutes are a dude hemming and hawnig about (mostly) himself before he gets his sh together and remembers that his audience came for answers, not so that he could strut and wave his chin around and grace people with his own stream of consciousness. I try so hard to be generous and have some perspective on those ("guy's a woodworker, not a tv host, and he DID put out some free content for me, don't be mean"), but these vids are stll a major breath of fresh air.
@mainemanlooking40
@mainemanlooking40 Жыл бұрын
This video has totally changed how I cut my miters/bevels. I purchased the larger bit and use it with a Rockler coping sled on my router table. It holds the pieces perfectly and cuts the miters in one pass.
@artswri
@artswri 3 жыл бұрын
I find that any angled cuts like these are invariably more challenging than they look. These are great tips for achieving high quality cuts (and are quite nicely safe as well.) Thanks for another video that will directly improve my woodworking skills!
@316woodworks9
@316woodworks9 Жыл бұрын
Master! Never got a bad tip. Nuance is your talent. You are the best! Thanks
@MakeSomething
@MakeSomething 3 жыл бұрын
Now I need that bit! Thanks!
@jxk7712
@jxk7712 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish that I was an apprentice in your shop. Excellent video. Thanks
@bearthompson6506
@bearthompson6506 Жыл бұрын
You always come through to save the day! I’ve been trying to cut a nice long 45° bevel on some pieces of 1/2” plywood for French cleats. I do mostly hand tool stuff so don’t have a lot of experience with my router (table mounted). I figured out my pieces all had humps in the middle of the bevel because the outfeed was no longer flush with the fence by the end. I came here looking for a solution, and lo-and-behold here you are coming to the rescue (and not for the first time). Thanks for all you put into these vids. Cheers 🍻
@brewster84067
@brewster84067 3 жыл бұрын
You must be psychic. I was literally struggling with this today in my shop and knew there must be a better way. THANK YOU - can't wait to try this technique!
@bretthollenbeck812
@bretthollenbeck812 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I’ve been working a box project with mitered corners and have been trying to do them on my table saw. Just can’t seem to get them square and straight. I watched this video and decided to try the router table instead. It worked great! And that tip about attaching the board with double stick tape to be a guide helped a lot! The miters came out square and flush. Thanks James!!
@thomaskirkpatrick4031
@thomaskirkpatrick4031 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea, never would have thought about using my router table for a 45 degree miter.
@silvermediastudio
@silvermediastudio 3 жыл бұрын
Top notch content. Can't get this kind of multi-faceted approach to problem solving in woodworking anywhere else.
@bigjabroni7514
@bigjabroni7514 3 жыл бұрын
My guy you've got me wathcing woodworking tips which i'll never have the need to use in my life - but your videos are so great and informative and im sure for those in the industry love them! Keep it up!
@johndufford5561
@johndufford5561 3 жыл бұрын
Thank-you. Very well thought out & demonstrated. Love how, when possible, you show multiple methods to achieve a safe & desired effect. Always appreciate that about you videos, James
@kentgray2220
@kentgray2220 3 жыл бұрын
Such a timely video. Today, I needed to cut 1/4" x 2-1/2" miters. It took about 2 seconds to head to the router table with the miter bit. I'm a bit right side thinking, so there were a number of test runs prior to cutting the work pieces. Once dialed in, in too all of 3 minutes to cut these perfect miters.... Its the only way I'll do it from here on out.... Thanks
@notasheep199
@notasheep199 3 жыл бұрын
I was cutting some miters today on my table saw and was wishing for a better way to get it done. I got a router lift a week ago and ordered the bit 5 minutes ago. I enjoy all of the content you put together and have helped myself and many others enjoy the hobby more than you can imagine. Thanks for the great insights, Mike
@TrevorDennis100
@TrevorDennis100 3 жыл бұрын
Woah! Masterful editing James. We could see the workpiece nudge up just as you said the word 'snipe'.
@e.t.preppin7084
@e.t.preppin7084 2 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say in 35 years I never thought to use a router table or shaper for this. Love it
@gabrielkoby6308
@gabrielkoby6308 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the tips. Don’t do much woodworking, but when I do, your tips make it easier.
@cyrilnorrie8450
@cyrilnorrie8450 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, James, for another great video that gives an option for a sometimes difficult task. Mitres have unique challenges and this info will be very helpful. I have learned a great deal from you over the last few years. Great job!
@tonymarrazzo354
@tonymarrazzo354 2 жыл бұрын
I love those featherboards - the fact you can adjust them with one hand is awesome. Gotta say tho, all those on your table at one time looks a bit like a medieval torture device! Great video as always.
@deadle_
@deadle_ 3 жыл бұрын
This kind of thinking is exactly why I subscribe to this channel, James. Thanks for posting, looks like a large 45 router bit is the newest tool on my list!
@kristofervansoelen8327
@kristofervansoelen8327 3 жыл бұрын
We use these exact same techniques almost every day on our Table Saw, and love it. We clamp a special sacrificial fence to the rip fence on the table saw, and angle the blade so that the teeth actually cut into the sacrificial fence. Then we can feed our sock through in exactly the same way you describe with the router bit, but with the speed and ease of set up of a table saw. You also can cut any angle up to 45 degrees, and aren't limited by your selection of router bits. The only issue is that on steep angles there will be a piece of off cut that wants to jam between the blade and the fence. The way to overcome this is that the sacrificial fence needs to have a rabbit cut out of it, large enough that the scrap can fall under the sacrificial fence and not get pinched, but leaving enough that your stock will be supported. This means you will need a different fence for whatever height of material you are using, as you will be feeding your stock along the top quarter inch or so. sounds a little complicated just over text, but it is a gamechanger for sure.
@lapisredux
@lapisredux 3 жыл бұрын
@love the typo...feeding your socks into a table saw would be pretty scary!
@garykorzelius5930
@garykorzelius5930 3 жыл бұрын
You always add to my woodworking knowledge. Thanks.
@sababa1022
@sababa1022 3 жыл бұрын
I use this technique to cut miters on the sides on my boxes. I built a small sled with a backer board and clamps to hold the piece in place and use a runner in the miter slot to control the sled. Simple, easy and I can use a stop block to duplicate the lengths. Just slowly raise the bit until the height gets you the cut you want.
@dalatina911
@dalatina911 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you explain each scenario in detail and how to fix mistakes related to that scenario. I have been trying to learn how to do mitered cuts to make floating box shelves and I keep overthinking everything! I have a router, but not a router table unfortunately! You just earned a new subscriber, thank you!
@thesweetone
@thesweetone 3 жыл бұрын
I've been struggling to do a 30degree perfectly and this opened my eyes to using my router. Amazing as always
@henrysiegertsz8204
@henrysiegertsz8204 3 жыл бұрын
Just superb. Great information, brilliantly presented without fuss or padding! Well some padding, but we all have a little of that here and there?
@mariushegli
@mariushegli 3 жыл бұрын
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
@unknown-ql1fk
@unknown-ql1fk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to wood working and inherited a router table, never quite knew what to use it for but now I have some ideas. Thanks for the vid
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 3 жыл бұрын
You may also like this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIavdJmOh9OijM0 and this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5XXdH6GlLB-a6M
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 3 жыл бұрын
I don't do many miter cuts but these tips will come in handy for the next time I have to do one. I really like the Hedgehog feather boards but they are expensive. A set of four would be about $160. Of course you could get by with less that that I suppose. Thank you for sharing James. Have a great day and stay safe.
@Littleshedjoinery
@Littleshedjoinery 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve shifted from making bevel cuts on the table saw to using my tracksaw and a 90 degree rail guide. Works flawlessly everytime and none of the setup time associated with a router table. It does take a little time to dial in the 45 degree angle on the track saw but once you’ve done it it’s a “set and forget” setup.
@stevem268
@stevem268 13 күн бұрын
very timely for this to show up in my feed! i've small mitred boxes for years using my 1935 delta tilting table table saw with perfect miters every time. i decided to try my newly built router table instead and it was a mess! the miter angle was way off and the joints were open on the inside. it might be the elcheapo router bit, so i've ordered a real one and will try again
@jonathanpartsch
@jonathanpartsch 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nubs! I ordered a guided 45 degree chamfer bit with cut height of 1" (cut length 1-3/8") based on this video.
@chrislambert9435
@chrislambert9435 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for your presentation , , , Chris , , , Norwich, England
@adrianscarlett
@adrianscarlett 3 жыл бұрын
I built a set of bearing guides for my CNC machine for this purpose. I can feed the material in from one end and have the bearings hold the workpiece at both sides of the cutter. Next upgrade is to add a power feed roller to improve surface finish. It's worth looking at canned cycles and macros for smaller things like drawer boxes
@jimadams6159
@jimadams6159 3 жыл бұрын
I find I learn from all of your videos. You have a great way of explaining things which I am able to understand, being a novice to woodworking. Thanks and keep up the great work. 👍
@kosinskiarek
@kosinskiarek 3 жыл бұрын
You are one smart cookie sir!
@sbs128
@sbs128 4 ай бұрын
Ah excellent. Exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you 😊
@whatworkedforme
@whatworkedforme 3 жыл бұрын
great video with a science approach.. i.e. reasons rather than tradition or guesswork.
@donalddparker
@donalddparker Жыл бұрын
Excellent advice I'd not considered. I struggled with my last jewelry box where I put just a tiny bit extra pressure during a few inches on the table saw leading to unclean miters. Definitely give this a try. Cheers!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip, James! Thanks a lot! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@jimanderson4495
@jimanderson4495 3 жыл бұрын
As always….great tips. Thanks James
@randsipe224
@randsipe224 3 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct. 45’s on the Table saw is iffy. I use a jig for that . With you advice I think I will try the router and 45 bit.
@52memor
@52memor 2 жыл бұрын
WOW Stumpy I'm so glad I saw this.. Sometimes I need to do this and I hadn't thought of it .. MANY THANKS MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM THE GREAT BRITAIN.
@woodworksbygrampies1284
@woodworksbygrampies1284 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! I appreciate you taking the time to test options and then sharing your findings. Thanks and have a good one, Adios! 🖐
@andrewj5998
@andrewj5998 3 жыл бұрын
James, you've been reading my mind this week. I have a 10 inch benchtop band saw that belonged to my Dad that I would like to tune up and make operational again. My table saw and circular saw both scorch hardwoods, even though neither blade has seen considerable use. I mostly use them for ripping down 3/4 plywood. However, I've never cleaned either blade, and they're probably both covered with pitch and plywood adhesive. And I've been putting off making a mitered box because I can't seem to cut a decent 45 with my table saw. Thanks!
@chrisforker7487
@chrisforker7487 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, this will come in handy on future projects. Thanks
@norm5785
@norm5785 2 жыл бұрын
Great information thank you for sharing this with us, from Henrico County Virginia
@joshneill6057
@joshneill6057 11 ай бұрын
You the man once again! ❤
@markkoons7488
@markkoons7488 3 жыл бұрын
Well done, Stump.
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks James. Really good information on cutting angles. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻✋🏻✋🏻
@bobwallace5257
@bobwallace5257 3 жыл бұрын
Great info Stumpy! Love the new feather boards!!
@Kenniii3
@Kenniii3 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always, James!
@libertyvilleguy2903
@libertyvilleguy2903 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tips, thank you.
@johnslaughter5475
@johnslaughter5475 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of your best. Kudos, James. I like the 2nd method, with the guide board taped on, best. This appears to give much more control. The router needs more control. 👌😊
@robertsmith3518
@robertsmith3518 3 жыл бұрын
Another great YTV ! Thanks for the info
@cindyhammack68
@cindyhammack68 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Never thought of doing that! Thank you!
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, bought a big 30 degree bevel for this purpose and it's pretty perfect despite not being the most expensiv bit to begin with. Great for making hexagonal hollow ylinders to round on the lathe.
@tinkeringinthailand8147
@tinkeringinthailand8147 3 жыл бұрын
Another professional educational presentation, I love watching your work.
@agoogleuser1594
@agoogleuser1594 3 жыл бұрын
I was running into the same issues on the table saw. I eventually solved it by buying a track saw. Pricey but a worthwhile investment.
@heystarfish100
@heystarfish100 3 жыл бұрын
Great information and explanations as I’ve come to expect from James. Even though I’m much experienced I oftentimes learn something new or reinforce vital safety lessons from watching your demonstrations. Thanks James for your wonderful content.
@J.A.Smith2397
@J.A.Smith2397 3 жыл бұрын
As usual great advice!
@billqqq
@billqqq 3 жыл бұрын
Always great tips and techniques!
@martinwoodworking
@martinwoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Very good idea for bevels
@robertlangley258
@robertlangley258 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I never made a miter that fit all around. Very good explanation. But I did always sprinkle sawdust and glue, actually crazy glue, down in the cracks and sand the heck out of it. My creations looked pretty good from Grandma’s house cause a glued joint would stick out like a horny pony due to not staining the same color as the original material. Thank you for sharing your knowledge of woodworking, wish you had been around 50 years ago tho. 😟
@garybrown7860
@garybrown7860 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. Love this channel
@markduggan3451
@markduggan3451 3 жыл бұрын
Great information as always.
@watermain48
@watermain48 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thanks James.
@edhalson3154
@edhalson3154 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect - great video and explanations...thanks!
@taliamon
@taliamon 3 жыл бұрын
The hidden gem: Combining the clamps and hedgehogs for a down-pressure feather board. ... Really need to add those to my tool set; my big box brand feather boards are such a pain to use. It looks like you tend to use four, any reason a home shop would need more than that?
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever used more than four at a time.
@jonathanpartsch
@jonathanpartsch 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why he used the quick clamps instead of the knobs like are on the table surface. It looks like the router fence has T-track too, so why no knobs on the fence? Anyway, I am maybe going to get some of these hedgehog feather boards myself. Usually two of the "standard" style feather boards are sufficient - three if you have one on the other side of the bit. I think he may be using four due to the lower amount of contact area that these hedgehog boards provide vs. the standard style. Maybe someone will confirm or correct me if I am wrong.
@chrisswartzwelder8494
@chrisswartzwelder8494 3 жыл бұрын
I use my shaper with a power feeder to cut my 45s and it works great nice clean cuts every time.
@derekjarman1638
@derekjarman1638 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea! - i'm going to try the router on some small pieces that need 45's 👍👍
@sapelesteve
@sapelesteve 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent and informative video SN! 👍😉👏
@v8trauma
@v8trauma 3 жыл бұрын
"Stumpy, how many feather boards do you need setting up for the shoot today?" YES!
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 3 жыл бұрын
They make a big difference, especially on long workpieces of for repeated cuts.
@v8trauma
@v8trauma 3 жыл бұрын
@@StumpyNubs oh I know, saved my bacon more than once.
@Ty-bz7zx
@Ty-bz7zx 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic info and techniques, big router bits can be intimidating and scary =) I made a miter sled for the table saw and have had perfect miters ever since with no worry of losing fingers or chunking my pieces if there are any imperfections in the wood etc... I probably need a better router table tbh... Thanks and keep the great content up!
@silknfeathers
@silknfeathers 3 жыл бұрын
I use the (Festool) tracksaw whenever possible. So long as you dial your angle in well, perfect cuts, every time. I've used the router when mitering end cuts, however.
@realpdm
@realpdm 3 жыл бұрын
I ran into that snipe problem trying to make some custom domino/loose tenons. When I'd do the 2nd side the round over would remove enough material that the tail end would flop into the router bit too deep. Thank you for these tips!
@islandcharlie7132
@islandcharlie7132 3 жыл бұрын
That is good stuff, Thank you.
@RobMoreland
@RobMoreland 3 жыл бұрын
I just tried this on some 1/4” stock that I use for making small boxes. I ended up with a corner that was a smidge less that 90 degrees, enough off to cause gaps in all four miters when I assembled a sample box. I’d just verified with a 4” flush trim bit that my router is square to my table, so I’m guessing my cheap MLCS chamfer bit isn’t a perfect 45 degrees. Unless something else is wrong, I’m going to go back to the table saw until I get a better chamfer bit.
@bbobba
@bbobba 3 жыл бұрын
Great information
@FormerlyKnownAsAndrew
@FormerlyKnownAsAndrew 3 жыл бұрын
Looks crispy!
@mg4695
@mg4695 3 жыл бұрын
Great video (as usual). Bt, isn't there a THIRD way to prevent snipe when routing? By shimming the outfeed side of the router fence you can support the stock equally on both sides and there will be no shift at the "tipping point" since there is NO "tipping point." Effectively the outfeed side steps up to meet the stock as it exits the bit as with a jointer. My Bosch router table came with shims that fit behind the face of the fence for just this purpose. I believe other brands can do the same. I can fine-tune the outfeed side of the fence by adding a strip or two of paper or masking tape to the shim. Even if your fence doesn't accommodate shims, you can use the paper/tape trick on the outfeed side to support your stock.
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 3 жыл бұрын
Shimming would be more effort that adjusting the fence as described.
@garyriecke6815
@garyriecke6815 3 жыл бұрын
Been using this technique for years. Only I use a coping jig and raise the bit to just meet the top edge. Cut all the parts to length and set the coping jig against the fence make a test cut and keep raising the bit until i just kisses the top edge, spin the board and do it again without changing any settings. Best thing is the bit is always 45 degrees…….Works every time without having to mess with the fence
@bruce1106
@bruce1106 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Even when you're criticizing something, you do it with class (eg. the recent video with the awful table saw panel cutting TIP). I'm so glad I watched this video regarding cutting miter cuts using a router. This should work for me much better than trying to use my table saw. I do have a question regarding the router bit you used. I went to the link you provided, and it brings up the Whiteside 2306. As far as I can tell, the 2306 will work on boards up to about 3/4" thick. But the bit you're using looks much larger, and you said it could be used for cuts up to 1" thick. Looking at products on the Whiteside website, I'm guessing maybe you were using the 2310? In retrospect, I'm glad I bought the 2306, since I really don't need something as big as the 2310. But it would set my view of the world back in order if you could help me clear up my confusion :) Thanks again for all you do!
@danyodice1048
@danyodice1048 3 жыл бұрын
Great info as usual...🤘🤘
@jamisonr
@jamisonr 3 жыл бұрын
When you showed the bit, I thought, it looks like a Whiteside, I sure hope it is because that's what i use!
@larrymanns364
@larrymanns364 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even have a wood shop and I want to buy this bit now
@rutgerhoutdijk3547
@rutgerhoutdijk3547 3 жыл бұрын
You could also create a beveled strip of wood on the outfeed side which is the exact size of the bevel you are cutting away, so the workpiece can slide against that.
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think cutting and fitting that would be any faster or easier than the two test cuts it took to set up my first suggested method.
@rutgerhoutdijk3547
@rutgerhoutdijk3547 3 жыл бұрын
@@StumpyNubs but you only need to do it once for all future cuts
@0neInTheChambie
@0neInTheChambie 3 жыл бұрын
@@rutgerhoutdijk3547 i agree
@jonsy452
@jonsy452 3 жыл бұрын
@@rutgerhoutdijk3547 only if all your future cuts are the exact same height miter. Testing for changed setups probably safest
@SnootchieBootchies27
@SnootchieBootchies27 2 жыл бұрын
I invested in a lock miter bit. Just had to build my own stair nosings out of engineered hardwood flooring. I don't know how I would have done it as nicely and efficiently with any other method. I was able to end up doing a full grain wrap for the nosing of each open tread the whole way around.
@jeremyhaugen273
@jeremyhaugen273 3 жыл бұрын
New woodworker here, I'm curious. The bit you showed has a bearing. It looks like you have the bearing well back from the fence. Why aren't you using the bearing as a 'third leg' in supporting the piece. Wouldn't that prevent the rocking you mention while running the board through as well as prevent the dipping you mention while running the end grain? Love your stuff, thanks for constantly showing us the right way to do things!
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 3 жыл бұрын
The bit must cut the entire edge from the board. The bearing sits about 1/16-inch above the top of the bits' cutters. You can't cut the entire edge AND run the bearing on that same edge.
@rmTheWalrus
@rmTheWalrus 11 ай бұрын
Big stumpy nubs fan. Nice trick to have in your back pocket. However, I tend to feel like if the workpiece is too small to keep stable on the table saw, then it is also probably too small to be used like that on a router table (to get the crisp edge, at least). In both cases the real difficulty in in avoid travel towards the cutter. IMO, you’d be better off in that case using a bevel bit with a template bearing, maybe even handheld on top of a straight edge template.
@e.t.preppin7084
@e.t.preppin7084 2 жыл бұрын
Miter saw for sure on mounding 45’s and miters.
@gregj2647
@gregj2647 3 жыл бұрын
Good information
@hitechfl
@hitechfl 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as usual, thank you!
@markwelch1836
@markwelch1836 3 жыл бұрын
If there are many cuts to perform passing the piece through the table saw for a rough cut could save wear on the router bit.
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