What's that little dial on your sander for?

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Stumpy Nubs (James Hamilton)

Stumpy Nubs (James Hamilton)

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@StumpyNubs
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@TomsBackyardWorkshop
@TomsBackyardWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I think what dewalt is saying is its cheaper to use the same motor and have it run at its max speed than it is to use a different motor or include circuitry to slow the sander.
@louislandi938
@louislandi938 2 жыл бұрын
Before I subscribed I thought I had a basic knowledge of wood working. However, after each one of your videos I walk away very humble. You teach without putting us down. A very rare attribute among teachers. I cannot thank you enough!
@dobrovik
@dobrovik 2 жыл бұрын
Dude if most of your teachers are putting you down something's up
@ignatiusreilly8280
@ignatiusreilly8280 2 жыл бұрын
You mean to say that it's normal of teachers to put you down? lol
@KOutOfMyYard
@KOutOfMyYard 2 жыл бұрын
Man oh man… it always leaves me baffled at the attention to detail on all things woodworking. I really think there should be a stumpy academy!
@gregoryvanek9038
@gregoryvanek9038 2 жыл бұрын
Sign me up!
@clickster1883
@clickster1883 2 жыл бұрын
Concur
@jameshairston2192
@jameshairston2192 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing all of this will not make you a good sander. Sanding a shit ton will though. Gotta play wit it
@BS-ys8zn
@BS-ys8zn 2 жыл бұрын
There is a Stumpy Academy , you're watching it.
@philipcorriveau6873
@philipcorriveau6873 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video, the speed at which you deliver info is great, not full of fluff that waste my time. Appreciate your info immensely.
@mirandamom1346
@mirandamom1346 2 жыл бұрын
That pigtail demonstration is genius!
@zimmerman1031
@zimmerman1031 5 ай бұрын
Only on your videos will I admit that I am 44, with no career skills. My goal is to move back out to where my future wife, and my child are at, and enroll into a trade school. I don't know that woodworking is what I will go into, but I am endlessly fascinated by handy work. I find your videos to be valuable beyond measure. I hope I will figure out what will make enough money to support my family in the way they deserve, but until then, I'll be watching your videos and learning more and more.
@syn4057
@syn4057 Ай бұрын
Now I know why my sanding time never really changed. I would turn up the sander and make my passes faster, but it was never really any faster than when I turned it up and made normal passed. This channel and few other showed me the errors of my ways. I take my time and use better paper. It’s actually saving me money.
@MrErViLi
@MrErViLi 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've found that pushing to hard can also melt the hook and loop pad on the sander and make the sand paper no longer attach properly.
@kestrelpounces
@kestrelpounces 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!! You made me realize that most videos I watch fast-forward through the sanding. So of course I intuitively ended up sanding too quickly as well. It never occurred to me to slow down!!
@JeffreyHyun
@JeffreyHyun 2 жыл бұрын
You're like the Alton Brown of woodworking. I love your info and your vibe. Great video
@wimderaat2993
@wimderaat2993 2 жыл бұрын
I use lower speeds on my sanding machines for old paint layers or other materials that tend to “melt” with the heat of sanding and clog up the sandpaper. Sometimes I lower the speed to have more control on small ridges or near glass windows.
@PhoenixRevealed
@PhoenixRevealed 2 жыл бұрын
Hey James, interesting video. I have a single-speed random orbit sander and I've never felt I needed it to go slower. I just wanted to point out that moving the sander at 50% less speed actually doubles the time it spends on each spot, not 50% longer. The rule is Change in Time (over each spot) = 1/Change in Speed, so if you want to spend 50% longer on each spot (3/2) you need to move one-third slower (2/3) .
@jasondoust4935
@jasondoust4935 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James! The variable speed crapped out on my sander, leaving it struck at top speed. I thought this was disastrous, then used it as I was on site. I've never felt the need to replace it since.
@fins9584
@fins9584 2 жыл бұрын
"It was my understanding that there would be no math." Gerald Ford
@garyyardley7306
@garyyardley7306 2 жыл бұрын
@@fins9584 Chevy Chase
@wcndave
@wcndave 2 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments to write this too...
@fins9584
@fins9584 2 жыл бұрын
@@garyyardley7306 Chevy Chase playing Gerald Ford, yes.
@ronaldpeters5483
@ronaldpeters5483 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are so good at explaining things in a way that I really follow. Thanks for creating and sharing!
@peter2327
@peter2327 2 жыл бұрын
I am old enough to have worked with old cast aluminum encased, single speed, corded tools with finger-gym «clack» switches, and painted in the fanciest of colors. I still have the old full metal B&D drill of my dad - also single speed
@jwar2163
@jwar2163 2 жыл бұрын
And here I thought I was the only one old enough to remember and have a single speed tool. My original hangs on the wall as a momentous momentum to my youthful ways and how far technology has taken me and to remind me of the things I have forgotten. I have some hand tools that are so old they still say American Made.
@codacreator6162
@codacreator6162 2 жыл бұрын
Your instruction is ALWAYS valuable and welcome. And the discussions you incite are worth a dozen online “shop classes.” Thank you all for sharing your thoughts. THIS is what good teaching/education looks like!
@SoCalRhetor
@SoCalRhetor 2 жыл бұрын
Another gem. Paired with the general sanding video this is an absolute must-watch for all beginning wood workers and DIYrs. Just an outstanding contribution to the KZbin community.
@keithbowman7650
@keithbowman7650 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos. I don't even own any woodworking tools. The only experience I have with woodworking is in high school I built a dry sink. I do hope to have a workshop someday, and your videos have taught me so much. Thanks for the great content!
@oakfat5178
@oakfat5178 Жыл бұрын
Good move, Keith. I hope it comes together for you. I enjoyed woodwork classes at school, then went and did other things. Now I'm retired I'm slowly assembling a workshop (one wall and a door to go). These are some of the most informative and motivating clips around. Once I have a workshop to practice in, I'll do some formal classes as well.
@tycox8704
@tycox8704 2 жыл бұрын
Most people don’t know this, but when you use an orbital sander below the equator, it rotates counterclockwise.
@MarcusRefusius
@MarcusRefusius 9 ай бұрын
AND the Grain of the Wood is upside down!
@jmoe6402
@jmoe6402 8 ай бұрын
Saw blades too
@germcrazyshokoff3623
@germcrazyshokoff3623 7 ай бұрын
I’m wondering if you’re joking.
@9greatdanes981
@9greatdanes981 7 ай бұрын
If you reverse polarity
@Cooper1
@Cooper1 6 ай бұрын
And your arms get tired since most sanding is overhead.
@answeris4217
@answeris4217 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a crazy person that enjoys sanding.... I used to hate it but then just learned that there's no other spot on any job that I don't need to think. And when you stop thinking completely I learned that is meditation and meditation has incredible power
@ALushPair
@ALushPair 8 ай бұрын
Get into Hinduism
@JustinLCooper
@JustinLCooper 6 ай бұрын
What an absolutely fantastic and informative video. I didn't even know my orbital sander had a variable speed and how to even use it properly, but now I do.Great job!
@jake8074
@jake8074 2 жыл бұрын
Stumpy Nubs with a side of Johnny Black, a great way to finish off the day! Thanks brother, my very best to you and yours!
@schwartztimothym
@schwartztimothym 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, just saved me a few bucks when shopping for a new sander!
@bobpurcell5662
@bobpurcell5662 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James-that clears up a few important basics in a straight forward way.
@smcbride8817
@smcbride8817 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, I'm one that always dialed in around the 4 because I figured middle was good all around for most sanding tasks. Thanks for the video. Sander going to 6 today and staying there from now on.
@glueupsscrewups
@glueupsscrewups 2 жыл бұрын
This has been bothering me for so long. Thank you for the explanation.
@dwinegardner8251
@dwinegardner8251 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James, I learn something new every episode.
@ianbrowne9304
@ianbrowne9304 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for sharing all your tips, ideas and experiences --- good channel with no BS or annoying bloody music :)
@Lando1020
@Lando1020 2 жыл бұрын
Great info as always! This is type of info for understanding something vs just knowing how to do something. Not just this video but pretty much all of them. Thank you!
@markglabinski3016
@markglabinski3016 2 жыл бұрын
I learn something new every time I get an alert for a new post. Thank you!!
@markduggan3451
@markduggan3451 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering a question I was too ashamed to ask.
@Mike-bh7sh
@Mike-bh7sh 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for a well informed video. It is irritating to see so many videos out there giving bad advice on sanding. Yes, pigtails are simply the visible pattern of your sander. They are there no matter how you sand. If you sand to a high grit level then the pigtails are so fine you just aren't noticing them - but they are there - it is the sander's pattern. Badly visibly pigtails can be caused (as stated) debris under the pad (including corning from a finish or resin) or moving too fast (stretching your sander's pattern out - whatever the speed, moving to fast for that speed)... and bad sandpaper. Cheap paper will not have the same quality control as better paper and so you may have larger grits contaminating the mix. In any case (something not mentioned), why are people not sanding by hand for the final pass (unless you have a nifty inline sander)? We always finish with a hand sanding (we are only sanding to 180 or 220 normally). My routine will usually be to power sand to one grit higher than I want (so say 220). I will then drop back to 180 grit to do a quick hand sanding. This reduces the amount of time required to hand sand as you are not having to sand out the deeper marks of the previous sanding - you are sanding deeper marks... and removes ALL pigtails. For those who do not hand sand - I recommend doing a test board in your usual routine, and then do another board as described with a hand sanding to finish. Apply a stain (yes professionals are using stain ALL the time - another youtuber attempted to claim we don't), let dry, and topcoat. I suspect you will see a clearer more pleasing result in the hand sanded test board. I leave the sander at a highest speed unless I'm using a beast to shape wood and then I might bring it down to make it more controlled. I will turn it down when doing a wet sanding on finishes, reduces heat and so reduces corning... also do not want it to aggressive as I do not want to sand too fast and cut through.
@LosLindosWoodworks
@LosLindosWoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Great video I saw you're others on sanding and whenever I see other KZbinrs moving back and forth like they're in a curling match I think of your videos and laugh.
@rgr3427
@rgr3427 2 жыл бұрын
One speed to rule them all. Hey ! I think he called me a tool. Thank you for the information, always learn something new here.
@Sojournart
@Sojournart 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent video that greatly increased my understanding of how to properly operate a random orbital sander.
@alastairstewart5527
@alastairstewart5527 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I have found using an RO sander to sand small items like box lids. This can cause the edges to sand faster leading to domed lids. The outer edge of the disk moves faster than the middle. For every revolution the outer edge has further to travel to complete a single rotation. This can give some interesting features to a project
@dougb8490
@dougb8490 2 жыл бұрын
James, this info is very much appreciated. I've wondered for a long time about that dial.
@stanwilson8089
@stanwilson8089 2 жыл бұрын
A subject I could never work out,your vid is great
@harrybond007
@harrybond007 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, could not work it out, and I always thought the dial was for the internal radio
@jimknowles5483
@jimknowles5483 2 жыл бұрын
You are a Suttle, powerful communicator....well done! Thank you just jim
@582tird
@582tird 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely nerding out on sanding, way out in the weeds. 😆👍
@artswri
@artswri 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, you're right! That little dial changes the speed of the sander! But now that I found it, I'm gonna let it at 6. A bit more seriously, thanks lots for taking the time to explain the details. I really dislike sanding (_really_ dislike the dust, which I can never seem to control). This video has taught me just what I need to know so I can sand and get the best results in the least time. Thanks!!!
@BBGuitars
@BBGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea what pigtails were and what caused them, what I did know was I had those scratch patterns in some of my projects. Invaluable lesson for me right here!
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 2 жыл бұрын
are you going thru the papers too quick? i.e. missing grits. i do a lot of work starting with rough timber and start at 40 on some stuff. then 60, 80, 120, 180, 220 maybe. if you miss one out you end up with more marks.
@BBGuitars
@BBGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
@@kanedNunable nah Im pretty vigilant to go up through the grades, Im fairly certain its my technique and or cheap pads retaining particles etc
@tummytub1161
@tummytub1161 2 жыл бұрын
The way you explain things is so easy to understand. I myself am not really much of a sanding guy. I would rather take a plane or scraper to smoothen my freshly machined wood, but sometimes sanding is unavoidable. I always wondered why you would slow down the sanding machine, now I know 👍
@codyellis5292
@codyellis5292 4 ай бұрын
Your content is ridiculously informative. Thanks from Nova Scotia!
@yoelai
@yoelai 2 жыл бұрын
It also should be noted that on regular, common sanders, the higher the speed, the easier they are to control because of the increased stability. Due to the mechanism of the random rotation, lower speeds can cause the sander to jerk around and be very difficult to control.
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 2 жыл бұрын
This is so true. First time I tried a Rotex sander, I thought it was crap because it was so hard to control and I was fighting it the whole way. Turned out it was just on the lowest speed setting.
@tummytub1161
@tummytub1161 2 жыл бұрын
Hi everyone! If you are having troubles with a RO-sander jerking, here are a few things that can also be the problem besides speed settings: The sole isn't flat, The material has bumps in it, Or the sole isn't perpendicular to the material. Some machines have a bad balance. Check out Stubby's video on random orbit sanders, he is better at explaining than I am.
@E3ECO
@E3ECO 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! My sanding sucks, but now I see how to fix it.
@brandocommando4459
@brandocommando4459 2 жыл бұрын
I do epoxy floors for a living. It is a great luxury to have variable speed sanders and grinders. Controlling first is a must
@eternalfizzer
@eternalfizzer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I needed that :-) Never liked sanding, but then I had no idea how to use a sander to good effect.
@ChauntelleARussell
@ChauntelleARussell 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE yr videos more than any other wood crafter
@jimpalmer1944
@jimpalmer1944 2 жыл бұрын
Another great class at Stumpy School.
@RobertSandell
@RobertSandell 2 жыл бұрын
This is the level of detail and explanations that I like and that few (if any) other channels do. I think though the actual reason for the non variable DW sander is at full speed is because both variants uses the same motor, and the speed selector is just a variable resistor. Put the speed selector on the highest number and there is no extra resistance on the circuit and it gets the same full speed as the other version. Put the speed selector on a lower number and it increases the resistance slowing the motor down. Same as the volume nob on a stereo amplifier. So there is probably less though put into what a good speed is and more about economies of scale ;)
@codacreator6162
@codacreator6162 2 жыл бұрын
I love sanding. When someone else is doing it.
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 6 ай бұрын
Thanks James for the deep dive on this topic. I like my Dewalt corded sander & always keep it set at 6. I also find that the two-handed sanding method is the most comfortable with this sander: one hand on the “neck” of the sander (not on the top), and the other hand on the dust extractor hose. I do wish that Dewalt would change the location of the variable speed dial. I find that I frequently, inadvertently, move the variable speed dial. Would I enjoy sanding more if I had “Team Green’s” ETS EC 125 or 150? Sure. Gotta sell a lot more workbenches to afford one.
@mnemonyss
@mnemonyss 2 жыл бұрын
You answered so many questions I had about my sander 😆
@norm5785
@norm5785 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful information, thank you for sharing this with us today from Henrico County Virginia
@mauriceryton
@mauriceryton 2 жыл бұрын
As usual very good information. It also looks like your hand has healed well.
@ronford9895
@ronford9895 2 жыл бұрын
I have never thought of a sander in that way. Good informative video
@kelvinpankhurst9379
@kelvinpankhurst9379 2 жыл бұрын
Excessive suction from the extractor can pull the sander down giving a similar effect as too much hand pressure will.
@LyamWitherow
@LyamWitherow 2 жыл бұрын
Correction at 3:08 if you moved the tool at 50% of the speed across the wood, that would actually be double the abrasion.
@IcecalGamer
@IcecalGamer 2 жыл бұрын
mafs
@ElmarLecher
@ElmarLecher 2 жыл бұрын
you're right!
@gregoirelaverdiere4949
@gregoirelaverdiere4949 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you... I might sleep well tonight. Gonna have to re-watch the vid cause that distracted me all along. Cheers
@scottschuette74
@scottschuette74 2 жыл бұрын
I caught that too, but we still love stumpy.
@shauntoochaos235
@shauntoochaos235 2 жыл бұрын
While this is true that if you go 50% the speed you double to sanding, what he said was going 50% slower which is meaningless without a comparison. Regardless I think we all understood his intent. Go slower and you sand more per inch.
@jobaecker9752
@jobaecker9752 2 жыл бұрын
Terrific video, well made and clearly explained - even for those of us who think we knew everything. ;)
@rayanderson1870
@rayanderson1870 2 жыл бұрын
I have been refurbishing an old house lately, cleaning off the old exterior boards and repainting. They are New Zealand Rimu, which is about 120 years old, very dry, and very hard. I melt and scrape off the old paint, then sand to clean it. I found, by trial and error, that when using 40 grit disks, I needed to run the sander at its very lowest speed as even the best quality disks disintegrated at higher speeds - the backing hook-and-loop fabric parted from the sanding paper. This also meant a lot of cleaning of the hook-and-loop surface of the sander pad each time this happened. I guess the coarse grit and hard wood cause a lot of tension between the layers on the disk. Running at the slowest speed prevented this and also stopped clogging of the disk from remnants of paint and cleaned the wood quicker than using a higher speed, so the very lowest speed setting can be useful..
@mikeamboy7292
@mikeamboy7292 2 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining a topic I thought everyone already understood. Always full speed, just enough grip so it doesn't get away. I travel a touch faster though.
@CKDz
@CKDz 2 жыл бұрын
It acn be noted that one reason not mentioned for a slow sander would be if you are using it for stripping paint. Slower orbital speeds means less heat which means more efficient cutting and less smearing/melting when removing an old finish.
@HowardKloc
@HowardKloc 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off to you Stumpy, you ALWAYS deliver solid content and a Red Wings tumbler. Follower in Detroit.
@SAWimp1
@SAWimp1 2 жыл бұрын
in cabinet industry speed settings are used in finish sanding. while some things are done by hand, as you suggested, large flat surfaces are done with ro. the speed settings are important because production finishes can be rushed and by changing the speed you are not just changing the rpm of the machine, you are changing the velocity of the orbit as well. velocity and friction are proportional at low speeds. less gumming of finishes that are not fully tacked or high in pigment content. it really is an important feature for working quickly in production finishing. even pneumatic ro sanders are variable speed.
@cadby1
@cadby1 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly... I have ro discs up to 25,000 grit, you need low speeds for these. Anything over 800 grit shouldn't be on higher speeds, IMO
@misterfee6467
@misterfee6467 2 жыл бұрын
In cabinet industry flat surfaces are done with a dual action sander(DA), not a RO(random orbit)
@larrygardner53018
@larrygardner53018 2 жыл бұрын
Another informative, well explained, and well edited video lesson. Thanks for all the valuable information you impart and keep 'em coming.
@1micler
@1micler 2 жыл бұрын
Just learned so much in this short video
@robertbamford8266
@robertbamford8266 2 жыл бұрын
As I think you hinted, there is also the type of wood to consider. I guess the most important thing Robson pay attention to the result you are achieving. Adjust feed rate as appropriate. Thanks for the thought provoking presentation.
@pierre-lucplouffe6592
@pierre-lucplouffe6592 2 жыл бұрын
I really needed to hear this. Once again, thank you for your priceless knowledge. I love you man
@Yambolic
@Yambolic 2 жыл бұрын
I've made a few wooden boats and paddleboards and during the process I'll need to sand epoxied surfaces. Just controlling the speed of movement is going to be a disaster. Sanding creates heat in the workpiece and if that workpiece is an epoxied surface the heat is going to start melting the epoxy which is not good. It'll also clog up sanding discs as well. Controlling the speed on the sander - I use the slowest speed - is an absolute must do. Oh, and Mirka Abranet sanding discs are the dogs doo dahs! This comment is not sponsored by Mirka :-))
@michaelcoughlin8238
@michaelcoughlin8238 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Bosch ROS20VSC recently. I just opened the box this weekend, put on some 80grit, and spotted the variable speed wheel. Then I did something rarely done by most, I opened the manual and there it was "for most sanding jobs leave the speed on the highest setting and only hold the sander, do not press it down onto the work surface with force". I joke but this is a necessary video for those that might have been using it for years or bought a used tool etc.
@Beakerbite
@Beakerbite 2 жыл бұрын
I find that I'm generally holding the hose up rather than pushing the sander down. Just trying to keep the air hose from tipping the sander. Haven't had issues so far beyond the fact that sanding sucks no matter the technique.
@mikecoughlin4128
@mikecoughlin4128 2 жыл бұрын
@@Beakerbite I just used mine with the included filter canister, no hose, and I had to check to see if the sander was sanding because I couldn’t see any dust on the work piece or around it. It works great.
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that. Now I do. Thanks James.👍👍
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing with us James, very helpful info. Fred.
@avive6539
@avive6539 2 жыл бұрын
Super comprehensive and informative, I love your videos and your knowledge is incredible, thank you for sharing it!
@J.A.Smith2397
@J.A.Smith2397 2 жыл бұрын
What a great unthought if topic! That's why your my boy blue
@ARNM55-l9v
@ARNM55-l9v 5 ай бұрын
Interesting & informative video. When discussing sanders with variable speed controls you seem to have assumed that everyone just uses these type of sanders on relatively long pieces of unfinished wood. When sanding off some fillers, materials & sanding over old painted surfaces high orbit speeds tend to melt what is being sanded which clogs up the sanding disk. Physically moving the sander faster across a piece of material isn't always a realist option to control the number of orbits taking place in a given area. With the technology available today the user / consumer should be able to choose the OPM, with a speed control, that is best suited for their particular material or task. Not everyone has a wall full of specialty tools available to do a particular job better than a standard RO sander. I wish this message would get to the manufacturers. I'd bet the real reason that so many manufactures stopped building RO sanders without a speed control function is because it was easier & cheaper to make & not because some pseudo-scientific research on what speed the "average" consumer uses or needs to use.
@derfpa1
@derfpa1 2 жыл бұрын
I often use the lowest speed when I'm rounding of corners, since I'm to lazy to set up my router. It gives you a lot more control when removing the corner.
@daveansell1970
@daveansell1970 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I use a low speed when sending the edge of plywood, especially if it is curved, it slows everything down and makes the sander more controllable.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Really fantastic tips, James! Thanks!!! 😃 I'm definitely going to use them! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@robgullen
@robgullen 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff - I'd be interested in a video covering speed etc for a portable belt sander.
@evertkleynhans2617
@evertkleynhans2617 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have learned a lot from this video.
@t.e.1189
@t.e.1189 Жыл бұрын
Another well presented video. Thank you.
@rwunsche
@rwunsche 2 жыл бұрын
I cheaped out and got the single speed Dewalt. In the super rare times I want less speed, I just press super light on it, or switch to a finer paper. No regrets.
@richardchiswell6517
@richardchiswell6517 2 жыл бұрын
What an excellent tutorial - thank you
@ThekiBoran
@ThekiBoran Жыл бұрын
I used to hate sanding until I started using dust collection.
@mariushegli
@mariushegli 2 жыл бұрын
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
@scottdezieck7056
@scottdezieck7056 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.....always wondered about this. Really enjoy all your videos.
@fin3125
@fin3125 2 жыл бұрын
I use top speed unless I need more control to avoid over rounding edge or changing profile too fast
@mikehenthorn1778
@mikehenthorn1778 2 жыл бұрын
i use a belt sander for big sanding jobs. i use my 2 bosch sanders for fine finish work. i just let them float across the wood .
@watermain48
@watermain48 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial James, thanks for sharing it.
@harrypehkonen
@harrypehkonen 2 жыл бұрын
I have a sander that broke. I found that the speed control was what was broken. I by-passed it, so now my sander has only one speed. That was many years ago, and it still works!
@mac243877
@mac243877 2 жыл бұрын
Another great tutorial
@adama1294
@adama1294 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Bosh 6in. Its has a random orbit and rotary mode for aggressive sanding. Great for very rough wood and polishing.
@Gazoogleheimer1
@Gazoogleheimer1 2 жыл бұрын
Not entirely related but these Bosch sanders are incredible sanders for working on boats with fairing compound, epoxy resins, and fiberglass. I like pairing them with Abranet mesh pads.
@mattggonzz
@mattggonzz 2 жыл бұрын
In addition.. if you hand rotate counterclockwise at 12,000 rpm your random orbital sander becomes a block sander. This saves much needed space in my shop. 🙂
@jimmymessier8434
@jimmymessier8434 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything in that video. Personally, though, I wouldn’t use coarse sand paper on veneer. If a pressure mark is visible, I’d steam it first. Never lower than 180 grit on thin veneers.
@GigsTaggart
@GigsTaggart 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm surprised he didn't go that direction... If you want to sand slower, use finer paper. Simple common sense right? I've never had or used a variable speed orbital. Never felt the need either.
@xlnbxindianboi
@xlnbxindianboi 2 жыл бұрын
As a new woodworker years ago, I purchased a random orbit sander, as I heard it was an essential tool to have in a wood shop. Alas, I was not aware of the variable speed function and purchased one without it. This is the only tool out of dozens that I've bought since, I regret purchasing.
@woodrowsmith3400
@woodrowsmith3400 2 жыл бұрын
Don't regret your purchase. Instead...get comfortable and proficient with it. When you do...think about how much more skill you will have when it comes time to buy a new, variable-speed sander! As I spoke above, I only use the single speed tools. Just makes things easier for me. To each their own, right? No random-orbit sander, in and of itself, is really bad. Many problems and difficulties are on the operator...as sorry as I am to say that. Just grab a piece of wood, a pencil and a cold one and start sanding. You'll soon get the feel for the tool, and will learn how to get the most out of it.
@xlnbxindianboi
@xlnbxindianboi 2 жыл бұрын
@@woodrowsmith3400 I appreciate the optimism! Perhaps I'll get one of those fancy pants ones like a Mirka.
@woodrowsmith3400
@woodrowsmith3400 2 жыл бұрын
Naveen...we all learn to adapt to the conditions we have at hand. Mirka? That would be nice, wouldn't it? But...in MY real world...not gonna happen. So, I use what I have. I can adapt. I get very acceptable results from the sanders I use...to the extent that my customers rave about the finish...and in the end...isn't that what we want?
@johanneso6083
@johanneso6083 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you James! I´ve been watching your videos for years and since you advanced to a larger shop with more "fancy" tools the videos have been a little less relevant to my needs. I get why you want to do that and so on and I am happy for your success. These type of videos with tips and education however brings me back since they a relevant to all of us, regardless of shopsize or experience. Hope you keep up with theese konds of videos as well. Best Regards from the land of "Sjöbergs" (Sweden)
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 2 жыл бұрын
Our videos never changed. We have been making this type of tip/tutorial video all along. Just because I have some fancy tools doesn't meant that's what most of our videos are about.
@castlecodersltd
@castlecodersltd 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the advice 🙂
@frankpratt529
@frankpratt529 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Bosch ROS65 which has variable speed. The sander is very good and super smooth, but I've never found the variable speed to be useful. In fact, I've going to put a blob of hot melt glue on the dial because it is always getting bumped the the speed turned down.
@alfredklek
@alfredklek 2 жыл бұрын
I've worked orbital sanders out of my work flow almost entirely. I usually use bench planes clean up my saw marks which was what I was using the orbital sander for mostly in the first place. They do a better job and they do it faster providing the blade is sharp. I'm not entirely convinced, even, that powered finish sanding is any faster or more effective than hand sanding by someone who knows what their doing. The only time I use one is when I'm sanding decking plugs, but I'd probably be better off with a small belt sander TBH. The primary problem with an orbital sander is that it will always cut across the grain half the time and it will never look as good as wood sanded with the grain.
@ironwood1621
@ironwood1621 2 жыл бұрын
25 years in the automotive refinish business. The only machine sanding is done on body work, and maybe prep work. Any sanding of base is by hand, as well as cured clear coat before buffing (although I do like a finishing DA for large sanding/buffing jobs).
So, you think you know how to sand, eh?
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