Stupidity Never Works / The Sweater Vest Dialogues / James White and Douglas Wilson

[@whereisyourfaith1454]

19:00 Dr. White, you are so right that you both were greatly blessed to be raised as you were. My childhood, teen, and young adult years were the opposite of yours and Mr. Wilson's, and, after a life of "looking for love in all the wrong places", I can tell you, yes, your upbringing and young conversion was more impressive, as exciting and miraculous as mine was! Thanks for this video.

[@thedogbarber]

Ugh. Please keep doing these you guys. These are so good.

[@benjaminfoster5383]

I found alot of encouragement in this conversation. Thank you. Thank God

[@zacharycowie121]

My two favorites, thank you both for these dialogues 👍

[@britterz483]

I always enjoy watching these. Keep them coming! :)

[@brookeribeiro4704]

Just have to say my husband always says James Wilson or Doug White when attempting to reiterate what was said 😂

[@jelly7310]

I went to Phoenix in May and the heat made me sick and I'm from Alabama and did a tour in Saudi Arabia. I remember the road crews and construction sites working after dark. Beautiful place.

[@zolle132]

I am very sad that i didnt raised in a real christian home. I was sinning without knowing against god and didnt know it. I am the only active Christian since 1year in my familiy and its very hard to learn all thisnstuff on my. Own. That was the reason i became a mormon but through the grace of god i am now (i feel) in a good protestant reformed church. Thanks and glory to christ. God bless you guys.

[@ChiliMcFly1]

Enjoyed your conversations, God bless.

[@exploringtheologychannel1697]

This was a very helpful conversation.

[@karcharias811]

"The planners know what's best... in their own minds." Precisely.

[@GregOrangeDoor]

Love these conversations! Thank you both for taking the time to do them. Why is Cannon Press taking so long to take off?

[@NikkiSchumacherOfficial]

Good Morning Guy maybe cause they have so many irons in so many fires that they don't have time to market these much? I'm wondering the same. Check out Beginning of Wisdom. If you love these guys you will love that.

[@cristiancastro149]

I think the same thing!

[@GregOrangeDoor]

Nikki Schumacher Official is that a podcast? Or a KZbin channel?

[@PopeCromwell]

I'm going to watch this for the sake of the series' title alone.

[@shawnshell5961]

It amazes me to sit and listen to these dudes talk about how oppressive COVID-19 restrictions are and how they worry about the world their grandchildren will inherit. My grandma and grandpa couldn’t walk on the sidewalk if a white person was on it out of fear of being spat on or kicked by them-not to mention they couldn’t even vote.; yet they never taught us to hate and were always hopeful. There are some difficult days ahead, for Christians, but there is no time in American history that I’d rather be alive as a black person than right now.

[@ldavis9725]

Shawn What a beautiful perspective!! Thank you so much for sharing.

[@davmatheophilus159]

These guys were little boys during the 60s. The usurper is running amok again, let's do our best to focus on central themes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKS9hJZ6asd5Z68 Babylon will fall, warn the heedless, encourage the weak.

[@wk1810]

Hey, the dead sea scrolls on the wall. I saw them when my local museum had an exhibition. Saw Caiphas' (sp?) sarcophagos(sp?) as well.

[@ConciseCabbage]

26:08 - "I descended to the depths" hahah

[@naterock369]

In reference to sword drills: "this probably isn't legal anymore." Hahahaha. Very witty lol.

[@nicholas3354]

3:30 The technocratic totalitarians are locking the cellblock doors, but we who are not of the World are not in those prison cells. Let us sing songs of praise through the prisons and hope God opens those heavy steal doors.

[@samueldesalegn233]

Nice it is very encouraging keep it up!

[@trystyn1105]

I love to read the comments on these.... Yet they don't exist... Dang lol

[@BanjoManco]

Loved this episode. These men are great mentors.

[@jamesbuchanan3888]

I would love it if a reversal could be set up. Have someone (an actor) speak of "the word" in the typical mannerism of Christians. I propose picking a few of the ludicrous laws in your state, and having the actor assert our obligation to obey "the word". Only after a statist gets emotionally worked up opposing obedience to "the word" is it revealed that "the word" is the statutes, codes, and regulations of the state. ... The purpose is to get the statist to oppose superstitious or unthinking obedience. Having one authority that cannot be questioned while it is acceptable to be sceptical of all others is a double double standard.

[@jamesbuchanan3888]

@Thomas Gissler - I do not understand your question; but I will guess... I am just trying to use the same standard. If a statist can believe in unquestioning obedience to one authority (state), why is it any less absurd to believe in unquestioning obedience to any other authority? The idea is to hold up a mirror to the statist so that they can see in themselves the thing which they ridicule in others.

[@artscraftsantiquity2185]

Like making some defend unproven, arbitrary and aggressive safety standards to protect the lives of the rest of the group. Show how it becomes a ritualistic routine. I feel like we did this for the last seven months. Compare that to a group thinking of a verse like protect the least of these and bring in a group of elderly, design measures that are logical to protect their safety. How about trying to honor people’s imago dei as they see fit and have faith in the covenant.

[@ashokmohan94]

High time you guys did another sweater vest!!!

[@surenshrestha8001]

42:00 'The answer is not on my head!'

[@johnallen5999]

4:34 -- umm... William WHO? 😂😂

[@H1N1777]

William F Buckley

[@NikkiSchumacherOfficial]

🔥

[@anniebuckley209]

Taco Time!! Yessssss

[@HomesteadAppalachia]

😷 🐑 (I typed "sick sheep" )

[@Richardcontramundum]

Wow. James White is NOT jerk here. I wish he would extend his Christian hospitality and brotherhood toward those he disagrees with within the church. (I am speaking about his treatment of Leighton Flowers.)

[@christophersmith7412]

Leighton Flowers is a man who claims to have believed and understood the 5 points of Calvinism, yet now spends every ounce of his strength trying to undermine practically everything good which came out of the protestant reformation. He is a sloppy scholar and a poor communicator but most importantly his doctrines are drifting further and further into rank heresy, which is devastating because he is a director of evangelism for Texas Baptists. This isn't about Calvinism vs Non-Calvinism, this is about a man who if left unchecked could lead an untold number of souls to Hell. Men like flowers need to be rebuked, SHARPLY because their teachings are divisive and destructive to the unity of the church.

[@Richardcontramundum]

@@christophersmith7412 Well you really should listen to Flowers podcast and not what White plays. White is a total jackass when it comes to his thick condescension of Flowers. Michael Brown holds very similar views on corporate election and White loves him. White is nicer to Mormons and Muslims! John 13:35 is totally missing from White's discourse. Even if Flowers is a heretic, (which he most certainly is not), but even if he was, and he is wandering from the faith, as Christians WHITE INCLUDED are called to be kind and gentle and call them back. Nothing Flowers is doing is anything out of the ordinary in regards to church history. Also you should be concerned on what the text of the scripture says about salvation and the character of God first and foremost. As a historian I love the Reformation, but they were fallible men just like you, me, White and Flowers. It is the bible we should be concerned with and what the authors meant to their audience and how it still speaks to the church today.

[@Richardcontramundum]

@@christophersmith7412 and how would he lead them to hell? If Calvinism in its correct form is true, (which is what Flowers pushes against) but if its true, then they went to hell on their own accord because of God's choice to not select them for effectual salvation. Nothing you, me or Flowers could ultimately do or have done would change that. That is if Calvinism is true. To that I will say that is why I also now reject that system. But I probably 'didn't understand it'

[@Nolongeraslave]

@@Richardcontramundum I have a feeling you listen to one side.

[@ChiliMcFly1]

Are you one of those who no matter how much wrath God puts upon you, you refuse to repent ?

[@billbrock8547]

Christians would do just as well to get their guidance and inspiration from a comic book as from the Bible. Both have superheros and a struggle of good against evil, and the comic book is better illustrated.

[@Parks179-h]

“Don’t answer the fools”, they say.

[@lukusmaximus]

I find it fascinating to listen to someone who believes in divine determinism complain and be concerned about God's decree.

[@D-meist]

God doesn't know the future in your system?

[@lukusmaximus]

@@D-meist Of course God knows the future, but is not the meticulous determiner of all things. So when I see evil and catastrophic events I have peace knowing that God is in control either by allowing it to take place, or with natural catastrophes even the determiner of that as a judgement on the people. White believes God determines all evil and catastrophic events and complains about it, that surely would be a form of blasphemy.

[@D-meist]

Is He the meticulous determiner of some things?

[@lukusmaximus]

@@D-meist We would have to fully define meticulous, and also what circumstances meticulous determinism would be used. For an example lets look at the plagues and famines God brought on civilizations recorded in the old testament, this is done through God's divine decree, but does God meticulously decree all of the things that eventuate from that which He first caused? No. This is where God's omniscience takes place, God knows all actions and choices that are made as a result of the action God has made, but God doesn't meticulous coerce every action and choice thereafter. God divinely intervenes knowing the ripple effect that will take place. Paul is another example, Christ revealed Himself to Paul and called him to be an apostle knowing every free action and choice Paul would make for the Gospel of Christ, obviously in the power of the spirit. But God didn't coerce every decision Paul made. Determinists have a very low view of God's omniscience and dare I say, God's Holiness and Justice, yet they would argue otherwise.

[@D-meist]

OK, thanks for that. But isn't that a bit like saying, "I know with 100% certainty that the cannon ball I'm about to perform will get the sunbathers wet. But you can't blame me for that. I may have caused the splash, but you can't blame me for where the water goes."

[@jonnyw82]

Imagine a Black Mirror episode in which the setting is a world where hundreds of gods exist and each are able to create and govern their own planet. Let's say on planet Calvinism there was the god as described by Calvinist theology. The god that governs this planet brings billions of humans into existence without their consent. He gives them a nature that makes them bent towards evil. He subjugates them to lives best defined as suffering and despair. Millions die each year from starvation, war, disease etc. Millions of children each year are molested, abused, neglected and bullied. All this he does so that he can show how powerful he is and also show his justice and love. He decides that the billions of people he created that suffered in life will also be tormented for eternity for simply being born. This is how he shows justice. He then decides he will be really nice to a small percent of the humans so he can show how loving he is. He does all this to glorify himself. Now tell me this isn't the most fucked up thing imaginable.

[@PurePuritan]

Checked out at cvcked mirror sorry

[@theinformativelawyer4619]

Why do Calvanists bother with apologetics?

[@zen2tranquility]

Because we are obedient to His Word, God instructs us to do so.

[@Stanzi18]

Because we love God more than men.

[@christophersmith7412]

Because God is sovereign over both the ends and the means.

[@megancrilley1878]

Because no one comes to the father but by the Son. So elect or not, people need to hear the truth of the gospel, repent of their sins amd accept by faith that Jesus alone is our righteousness. We dont know who the elect are and therefore we must proclaim the truth to all men so that God may be Glorified in all things.

[@3leon306]

The Informative Lawyer these responses prove that Calvinists (in addition to being heretical nominalists and children of Ockham) are insufferably humorless ... :)