STUPIDITY Put DC Comics Sales In Very Dangerous Place

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Thinking Critical

Thinking Critical

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@firestarter6488
@firestarter6488 8 ай бұрын
Aquaman goes AWOL from comics while *TWO* movies starring him came out? WTF?
@theheroinu
@theheroinu 8 ай бұрын
DC dropped the ball with Aquaman. Entering the 2020s, after Batman, Superman, Wonder Wonder, Green Lantern, and Flash, DC seems to struggle with their other key superheroes. Teen Titans, Justice League, Supergirl, and even Aquaman we’re supposed to be the forefront of DC in this new era.
@DavidSmith-dp6vb
@DavidSmith-dp6vb 8 ай бұрын
One of the things that keeps me from buying DC books is the extra dollar for backup stories that I have no interest in. I refuse to pay extra for content I don’t want.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 8 ай бұрын
Yea and the backup is usually total trash and is an utter waste of space, I’ve no idea why they keep doing this.
@StrawHatVladEK
@StrawHatVladEK 8 ай бұрын
That was the day I totally canceled my pull list. Great idea Jim Lee you overrated clown
@craigwhitley1529
@craigwhitley1529 8 ай бұрын
​​​@@InfamyOrDeath-__-Perhaps it's because they have so few good writers that they now have to spread out the content over multiple issues instead of just one. Regardless of why I am also tired of the stupid backup stories
@Neighborhood_spdrman
@Neighborhood_spdrman 8 ай бұрын
It’s because they want to give work to these people but they know there’s no shot anyone is buying a book they’re writing. So throw them into a backup for a story people might wanna read. One dollar extra is better than making nothing off them doing their own book. That said I 100% agree. Every backup is hot garbage with the exception of PKJs Jon Stewart in the main GL book when it started.
@johnevans4867
@johnevans4867 8 ай бұрын
Jim Lee is either an uninvolved figurehead, staggeringly incompetent, or astonishingly deluded and stubborn.
@jaylucien669
@jaylucien669 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@maxmazzotti6651
@maxmazzotti6651 8 ай бұрын
But he works best just as an artist
@GeekpinEnt
@GeekpinEnt 8 ай бұрын
All the above
@Oeeshik
@Oeeshik 8 ай бұрын
Of course, remember he is part of why Claremont got kicked off X-Men His only skill is drawing, he is no John Byrne
@coldsnyder3343
@coldsnyder3343 8 ай бұрын
He's really not and after yrs of the JL being the mainstream book it only makes since that Titans would get the spot light....it's almost like they toke the same idea of when X-Men was first getting big. They made the Titans, so if Johnathan Hickman releases a X-Men book then why not put it up against its original competition, The New Teen Titans. Avengers and JL don't need to be and shouldn't be the only books to get spotlight
@OrthwormJEB
@OrthwormJEB 8 ай бұрын
Wow. I never knew DC went on for that long without a Justice League comic.
@VALonYouTube
@VALonYouTube 8 ай бұрын
Same here. 😄
@HeatFan47201
@HeatFan47201 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm mainly a Marvel guy (and I disagree with the OP saying that Marvel doesn't have much decent stuff coming out) but even Marvel didn't go that long without posting an Avengers book after "Disassembled" before they launched New Avengers
@bobbymack3636
@bobbymack3636 8 ай бұрын
I work at a comic shop and Aquaman was a good seller when Geoff Johns was writing it. Now alot of people dropped it after he left and when they announced Jackson as the replacement, pretty much everyone dropped it!
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 8 ай бұрын
Getting rid of the justice league was always a bad Idea from the start to its ending in my opinion.
@kinglyone7172
@kinglyone7172 8 ай бұрын
They've been getting rid of the league once every 2-3 years for the past 30 years.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 8 ай бұрын
@@kinglyone7172 why that sounds like a terrible idea
@kinglyone7172
@kinglyone7172 8 ай бұрын
@@TevyaSmolka Just like how they continually deconstruct Batman and weaken Superman. DC forgot how to build up their characters.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 8 ай бұрын
@@kinglyone7172 i am still pissed off and angry that bendis destroyed superman and deconstruct everything from rebirth for his garbage.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 8 ай бұрын
I haven't been excited for anything DC comics since Rebirth. They had a tremendous opportunity to ride the wave of hype. To give fans what they want and combine new and old elements. They had it all, and they blew it!
@coldsnyder3343
@coldsnyder3343 8 ай бұрын
They literally didn't tho go read Johns JSA or pick up Wally back his entire family is back. Green Arrow s sidekick Connor Hawk is back Huntress, Power Girl, Alan Scott and they've finally added another magic lantern but wait that's what you don't like, adding
@captaincat4361
@captaincat4361 8 ай бұрын
​@@coldsnyder3343 didn't Wally, the Flash of 2 decades, become a serial killer? That same Wally that started off Rebirth?
@coldsnyder3343
@coldsnyder3343 8 ай бұрын
@@captaincat4361 He did and they did the whole redemption arc in Flash Forward and death metal. Then during dark Crisis is when he gets his family and returned to his og suit.
@Julius.Council3
@Julius.Council3 8 ай бұрын
DC not publishing a Justice League book this long is like Marvel not publishing Avengers and/or X-Men comics anymore. It ridiculous and unheard of. How does Jim Lee a talented and legendary artist let DC get this bad?
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 8 ай бұрын
Yea it’s so bad, if they could get another Justice League run like Johns, even Snyders run was good and would be great now. Justice League was my favourite comic for years.
@GeekpinEnt
@GeekpinEnt 8 ай бұрын
​@@InfamyOrDeath-__- Pass on Snyder's. The continuity was so annoying cuz his story took too damn long to tell. Johns had the rest run since the reboot followed by DC rebirth run.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 8 ай бұрын
Did Jim Lee ever leave the impression of a good boss that builds a company up? He is a great artist, doesn’t mean he is a great company leader.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 8 ай бұрын
My personal experience based on multiple times starting to read DC: those crisis events are extreme jumping off points. Right now I only read DC comics with the mind set of „I don’t care about the canon at all, it’s not worth to even try understanding it“. It also means that my buy in for DC is very low and that I will most likely just quietly fade out of DC one day. Tbh, if not for this channel and Perch, I wouldn’t be reading any DC anyway.
@benjaminplumyoen4029
@benjaminplumyoen4029 8 ай бұрын
Jim Lee is a great illustrator, i won't deny that. But he is a terrible writer (Divine Rights) and an even worst editor (Wildstorm and DC). Being good at one thing doesn't mean that you are good for everything.
@lemond2007
@lemond2007 8 ай бұрын
Jim Lee seems like a really nice guy. It's too bad he's unbelievably incompetent.
@maxmazzotti6651
@maxmazzotti6651 7 ай бұрын
At business. Drawing however, is excellent
@dionlackey798
@dionlackey798 8 ай бұрын
You know it's bad when Batman, DC best selling and flagship character that's consistently in the top 3 in sales, is in the 40's out of the top 50 comic sales for that month. That's just how bad chip zdarksy is doing on Batman
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
Yes this is a complete absurd. Keep in mind that are Batman titles that keep DC alive in nowadays. DC are in a very troublesome situation right now.
@nwoking666
@nwoking666 8 ай бұрын
Well, The Justice League is no WildC.A.T.S -Jim Lee
@currybr
@currybr 8 ай бұрын
I hear that Jim Lee is going to receive a DEI award for disproving the stereotype that Asians are always smart.
@invictusbat7225
@invictusbat7225 8 ай бұрын
LMAO 😂
@FloridaEbikes
@FloridaEbikes 8 ай бұрын
He's proving they are weak minded cowards that do what they are told. 1.5 billion+ are in agreement....
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats 8 ай бұрын
Who left him in charge? He's running DC like he did Wildstorm.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 8 ай бұрын
I can’t believe there’s no Justice League comic, it was the first DC comic I bought and the longest unbroken run I have, over 10 years.
@sweatyheroes4560
@sweatyheroes4560 8 ай бұрын
I would argue that DC Rebirth's SUPERMAN titles were AWESOME and that storyline that brought back Superman and Lois's wedding and Jonathan Kent was like the opposite of ONE MORE DAY for Superman fans....then they ruined a great comeback for Superman!
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we don't have a single Justice League run worth to read in many years.I don't miss the title. DC needs give more love to The Legion of Super-Heroes that is mistreated by DC since 2013. DC sales were awful in past month. Not a single title managed to be in the Top 20 comic book sales. Even Zdarsky Batman stayed in the 43° position in the ranking. This is insane. We can are seeing DC latest days in the comics industry in this rhythm.
@O_G_HELLBOY
@O_G_HELLBOY 8 ай бұрын
Bendis's run on Legion of Superheroes totally ruined it...
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
@@O_G_HELLBOY Yes. I don't even count that garbage. DC needs a true writer willing to make the Legion great again.
@davekolan862
@davekolan862 8 ай бұрын
I want DC to bring back even something like Justice League Dark or The Spectre. So many good characters going to waste
@vash9760
@vash9760 8 ай бұрын
Space ghost and the creature from the black lagoon are outselling DC, holy crap!
@jimthar17
@jimthar17 8 ай бұрын
I bought SG but I don't think my shop had Creature.
@donaldvonglitchenberger4108
@donaldvonglitchenberger4108 8 ай бұрын
jim lee is a great artist and an awfully weak leader
@themetropolisman
@themetropolisman 8 ай бұрын
People can say what they want about Dan Didio, love him or hate him, but he knew how to be a leader for the DC team. He’d stick his neck out for his people and take the heat in public. I don’t even know if Jim Lee still exists.
@michaelkpate
@michaelkpate 8 ай бұрын
My first issue of JLA was 111 when I was 7 years old. I read it up until I quit 30+ years later. When I bought my first DC Universe subscription I read the New 52 book, the Rebirth book, and was reading the third one and Year of the Villain when the subscription ran out. I'm currently reading X-Men from the beginning.
@O_G_HELLBOY
@O_G_HELLBOY 8 ай бұрын
Definitely stop reading X-Men when you get to the Hickman stuff. 😵
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 8 ай бұрын
No Justice League is such a stupid decision.
@JamesDavis-jd1oq
@JamesDavis-jd1oq 8 ай бұрын
DC Comics without the Justice League is not DC Comics. Fire everyone. Ignore everything since the New 52 and start over.
@invictusbat7225
@invictusbat7225 8 ай бұрын
New 52 and rebirth were good.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
@@invictusbat7225 Rebirth was good in th first year but N52 was awful.Destroyed DCU forever. Just dark and edge garbage,nothing more.
@Rengokuo4o6
@Rengokuo4o6 8 ай бұрын
I think the idea was to give the spotlight to the Titans with Grayson and his team.
@coldsnyder3343
@coldsnyder3343 8 ай бұрын
New 52 and Rebirth are the best acts of continuity outside of the Ultimate universe and that was what only a 1/6 of the books. When I speak to new comic readers I say ignore everything before New 52 expect for the multiple Crisis events Infinite Earth, Zero , infinite, Flashpoint. Other than Batmans back getting broken or Doomsday it's not really important and you'll get better and new introductions without 40 yrs of continuity just 6 volumes telling you things can get crazy and your going for a ride but don't worry we have a ride just for you that hasn't started yet. Even Now my new starting point would be Dark Knights or Death Metal go to Dark Crisis and this is where your new ride starts. Every initiative needs a starting point.
@GuyR-c7u
@GuyR-c7u 8 ай бұрын
With Marvel failing everywhere, one would think there's a good opportunity for DC to gain the upper hand. But no, they must be thinking it would be too easy
@bobmularky7456
@bobmularky7456 8 ай бұрын
I think it more to do with DC being in such a bad place Marvel doesn't feel the need to try.
@marvel22-mf1js
@marvel22-mf1js 8 ай бұрын
Marvel is not failing but dc is.
@GuyR-c7u
@GuyR-c7u 8 ай бұрын
@@marvel22-mf1js yeah it is not failing, it is dead
@shengcer
@shengcer 8 ай бұрын
This is actually a bit similar to days right after the crisis. Writes of Superman and Wonder Woman were reluctant to let their characters join another team book. The DC editorial then hired Keith Giffen to start the JLI run which included mostly b/c list characters to form the Justice league, but it was a wild success.
@shotsavereboundscore
@shotsavereboundscore 8 ай бұрын
No justice league but let's give leah Williams a cowboy gotham city sirens book... W. T. F.
@daikini74
@daikini74 8 ай бұрын
Truth.
@Barot8
@Barot8 8 ай бұрын
Jim Lee should have been let go about a decade ago. So should most of the editorial staff. I'm also sick of Crisis. How many times can that story be told? Thank you Wes.
@johncy2462
@johncy2462 8 ай бұрын
Should they even be called "events" at this point? The Big Two are pumping out reboots and events on a seemingly tightly run schedule that they are basically publishing disposable content. There's no consistency and they can't even be bothered to sync with the film releases.
@maartenbouw
@maartenbouw 8 ай бұрын
DC Comics can contact me. I’d write the Justice League for cheap. I would put the time in each issue to knock it out of the park, dialling up the fun factor.
@REDALERTUSA
@REDALERTUSA 8 ай бұрын
That’s not how hiring writers work…..lol. Step 1 is find a writer who hates comics and specifically superheroes.
@YouToobLovesNazis
@YouToobLovesNazis 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure you're a god awful writer
@jfrsnjhnsn
@jfrsnjhnsn 8 ай бұрын
Man, you just don’t get it.., comics fans don’t want superheroes, they just want gays at $5.00+ an issue!
@ascorvinus
@ascorvinus 8 ай бұрын
And the stories better revolve entirely around food, or I’m not getting my money’s worth!
@invictusbat7225
@invictusbat7225 8 ай бұрын
ROFL😂
@Launchpad05
@Launchpad05 8 ай бұрын
Just like how Cartoon Network thinks that we don't want A 6th season of 'Teen Titans'. Just more 'Teen Titans Go'.
@waynetech10
@waynetech10 8 ай бұрын
Been reading JLA and World's Finest, from way back in the day. Back issues, all day, any day. I don't have a hard cutoff, but I'd say it's definitely the early 2000's, before it really started getting bad, around 2008 or 9. One of my favorite trades, to collect, and even reread, was JLA. Reading the individual books, and even teamup books, was fun, JLA was the book that brought them all together. DC has hired so many bad creators, so many bitter, miserable people, who hate not only the established names, but the fans, it's pretty much impossible, to recover, unless all of these people are gone. I'm a massive DC fan, and it really is heartbreaking, to look in, and see so many terrible books launching, stories that feel like they were written for the Twitter and reddit crowd, all the spite. Even the better books are boring, at best. The thing I'm not sure of, is Jim Lee onboard with ruining the line, or is he just nodding and collecting and his check? Does he even have the power to stop this, or is a collection of people, watching the money burn and compelling him to do more? Selling everything, to appease people who hate comics, and the happiness of comic fans, is just a terrible business model, as evidenced by the numbers. Just looking through collections, of older stories, even from as recent as 2004, the DCU just looks terrible now. None of the real heroes matter, the premier team is gone, in their place, a collection of parodies, of superheroes, how gay the characters are matters more than skillset, motivation, or morals, even if a halfway decent book sneaks by, the entire DCU is garbage, now.
@VALonYouTube
@VALonYouTube 8 ай бұрын
This video was such an eye-opener. 😲 I had completely forgotten about the Death of the Justice League event. Looking back, it was announced before The Batman was released in theaters, which now seems like an eternity. Thanks for the reminder, Wes.
@BrenTenn
@BrenTenn 8 ай бұрын
DC is in terrible shape financially. I’d say if this Superman film next year doesn’t do well that they will declare bankruptcy. They aren’t making figures or anything either. Everything has been cut back and investors are scarce atm.
@jlopez240gaming7
@jlopez240gaming7 8 ай бұрын
And it will all be their fault. This is what happens when they focus on appeasing investors and failing to deliver on what fans actually want.
@jpasan
@jpasan 8 ай бұрын
Supergirl actually had a nice run with Peter David. 80 issues, and it was just cancelled to allow Kara Zor-El to return. Ant that series also lasted until New 52. New 52, such a dark moment DC, they lost me there
@VaughnEsper
@VaughnEsper 8 ай бұрын
For those interested, these are the only 9 DC comics which made the top 50 in April: Action Comics 1064 (21st place) Nightwing 113 (23rd place) Superman 13 (25th place) Worlds Finest 26 (30th place) Wonder Woman 8 (31st place) Bat-Man First Knight 2 (38th place) Detective Comics 1084 (41st place) Batman 146 (43rd place) Batman and Robin 8 (46th place) Looks like only Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Nightwing are holding the line
@CoolCATs2814
@CoolCATs2814 8 ай бұрын
Those Top lists have no bearing, as they only account for 125 stores.
@VaughnEsper
@VaughnEsper 8 ай бұрын
@@CoolCATs2814 Its not an ideal sample size but it's the best we have. At least it's from a wide variety of locations. It makes sense though. Batman always sells well, and the current runs on Superman, Nightwing and Wonder Woman all have a buzz around them at the moment.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 8 ай бұрын
@@CoolCATs2814It’s the only numbers we have. Better to get some numbers from 125 shops vs no numbers at all. We all would love to have the visibility Diamond provided, but that’s gone due to how bad the industry performs.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
Batman main title in the 43° position is a terrible hint how bad DC monthly sales are being right now.
@littlewolvie2396
@littlewolvie2396 8 ай бұрын
Loved Dan Abnett's Aquaman (and Mera), but immediately dropped the book when Kelly Sue Deconnick took over and ran it into the ground. 😡
@GeekpinEnt
@GeekpinEnt 8 ай бұрын
DC lost me years ago after Dan left. To answer your question...The Titans are the Justice League. The roles are reversed. Usually the JLA will be in the frontline while The Titans and other heroes play support. I thought the Justice League was supposed to return last summer/early fall for the Dawn of DC?
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 8 ай бұрын
Both is a terrible approach. Teen Titans is supposed to be a team book with action, heroism and teen drama; not a first or second line team. JLA is supposed to be the gathering of champions that stands between us and the end of the world.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 8 ай бұрын
​@@davidgantenbein9362 yeah but that's teen titans, this is Titans. They are a hero team if vetern titans that should be on the level of the justice league
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 8 ай бұрын
@@huntertezz They are still not THE champions of DC and trying to force it, will backfire. It’s like if Marvel tried to replace the Avengers with the X-Men, it’s dysfunctional. But hey, I have no stakes in DC, for all I care I can stop reading what little I currently read from DC tomorrow. I have given up trying to follow any DC canon, just way to many reboots and crises. I liked to read Teen Titans up till New 52 (awful book back then), but since New 52 I prefer to avoid titles I have nostalgia for.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 8 ай бұрын
​@@davidgantenbein9362 All of them have been in the justice league before (except Beast Boy but even he is on their level) and they are champions between us and the end of the world. Titans and legacy heroes in general have been disrespected for years because of that damn Didio. So it was good seeing them take charge. My only complain is they went with the new titans line up for nostalgia. They should have add Supergirl and Kyle Green Lantern.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 8 ай бұрын
@@davidgantenbein9362 kind of a bad comparison since X Men are a team fighting for mutant minorities instead of just another hero team so their roles are different.
@lammal412
@lammal412 8 ай бұрын
Peter David got Supergirl to last 81 issues (80 regularly-numbered issues and issue # 1,000,000, a tie-in to the DC One Million crossover). And that book only got canceled so that the Superman books could introduce Cir-El as Supergirl.
@kelpietales4503
@kelpietales4503 8 ай бұрын
That wasn't even Kara Supergirl but Linda Danvers too. And wasn't Cir-El forgotten as quickly as she was introduced for a Post-Crisis Kara?
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
PAD Supergirl sucked. There's no Supergirl that is not Kara Zor-El. MAtrix and Linda Danvers versions were awful.
@garou12
@garou12 8 ай бұрын
it's incredulous that zaslav hasn't looked at dc's books and gone wtf is happening here
@martyemmons1859
@martyemmons1859 8 ай бұрын
I was just reading about my favorite Justice League issues. Unfortunately, the article was about the reasons why Timothy Callahan didn't like the Justice League vol.2 Ed Benes art. It always seems as though the comic books that I like are criticized.
@88playmkr
@88playmkr 8 ай бұрын
It’s like they want to not sell shit
@richardhalligan7900
@richardhalligan7900 8 ай бұрын
To be honest I don't mind a break from the Justice League, it gives more time to the writers to think of some good stories. I just don't want anymore fighting aliens, and doing the multiverse. Can we just see a good old fashioned fight between heroes and villains. Enough with the Multiverse already.
@JonathanSirico
@JonathanSirico 8 ай бұрын
My local comic shop was 100% comics 10 years ago. Now it's about 3% comics. It transformed into more of a nerd culture store. MtG, 40k, D&D and tons of anime dominate theirs sales. Comics are a single shelf on in a corner.
@toonytube2444
@toonytube2444 8 ай бұрын
No JUSTICE LEAGUE!! This is one of many dumb ideas from DC these days.
@jermason8594
@jermason8594 8 ай бұрын
I didn't even notice that the JL was missing.. I'm about to just give up on the big two..
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 8 ай бұрын
Same, I've been focusing on collecting older stories.
@regishel
@regishel 8 ай бұрын
Rebirth Supergirl was actually pretty good and looked to be selling pretty way, but yeah we don't need a Supergirl title but with Power girl having a stupid comic, I'd much rather having Supergirl as a title back, could have been fun.. or just put her on a Young Justice comic, at least that way there would be some kind of "justice" title out there🤷‍♀️
@sweatyheroes4560
@sweatyheroes4560 8 ай бұрын
Supergirl (Kara Zor El) her best comic run was by Sterling Gates in the early 2000s.
@johnr.e.789
@johnr.e.789 8 ай бұрын
Jim Lee renewed his DC contract last year. Readers can expect more of the same. Wr readers are doomed to their editorial malpractice.
@theragoooverlord5021
@theragoooverlord5021 8 ай бұрын
Whoa...i had not noticed that
@dice_fumbler
@dice_fumbler 8 ай бұрын
How in the Hell does Jim Lee still have a job??
@mikewilson3581
@mikewilson3581 8 ай бұрын
The only recent DC book I've read was the Jay Garrick one. Other than that I avoid modern DC and Marvel. I've been buying old comic appearances of the B and C list Marvel characters I love: Doc Samson, Dr. Druid, the original White Tiger, Nomad (Jack Monroe) and Torpedo. And most of the time I'm paying two or three dollars a book. And the process of searching for them adds to the enjoyment.
@AL-ws5yi
@AL-ws5yi 8 ай бұрын
I do like Marvel more than DC but DC has still has some good stories… what does Marvel have? Ultimate Spider-Man and Ultimate Black Panther? Two books not in continuity?
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 8 ай бұрын
I was the opposite, I was mostly a DC fan, well I started with Marvel and read it from 2004 to 2010, but then switched to DC at the end of 2010 when we got a comic book shop here.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
I agree. All the 616 Marvel books sucks so much in the latest years.
@stephenede-borrett1452
@stephenede-borrett1452 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely fu...ng spot on - Excellent
@incubustimelord5947
@incubustimelord5947 8 ай бұрын
I just saw the picture of Goku from Dragon Ball Z that Jim Lee had drawn as a picture in memory of the creator of Dragon Ball, the late, great, legendary Akira Toriyama, and I have to say, damn. I was expecting better. 😕😑 Add the way that Jim Lee has neglected DC Comics and the Justice League, yeah I have to admit. He is no longer the Jim Lee that I used to know. The rock star of comics who had illustrated the 1990s X-Men and WildC.A.T.s. Jim Lee lost his touch a long time ago. He is just an old fart now who just wants to retire and live the life of a multi-millionaire. He doesn't care about comics or the industry anymore.
@arthurtripp6922
@arthurtripp6922 5 ай бұрын
DC has No Real Editor, Writers equals 0 sales.
@MurkySchlaffler
@MurkySchlaffler 8 ай бұрын
heroes in crisis, the real crisis is being written by tom king
@patrickmoreau7592
@patrickmoreau7592 8 ай бұрын
Don’t worry Wes when Jim Lee finishes his comic con tour he will get back to DC stuff 😂😂 In fact, if I see him at Terrific con I’ll forward your concerns 😂😂😂 Good video
@thexdatabase
@thexdatabase 8 ай бұрын
last thing that dc made that made me excited was that crossover with king kong and godzilla almost ruined by that gay preview to green lantern
@raiderbear1
@raiderbear1 8 ай бұрын
Awesome work guys
@thehumancomet
@thehumancomet 8 ай бұрын
As a Justice League fan, true night terrors would involve Tom King or Mariko Tamaki getting their mitts on that team.
@Damackism
@Damackism 8 ай бұрын
Dayuum! I knew DC was struggling. But not this bad.Thanks for the info Wes!
@jonnjones8263
@jonnjones8263 8 ай бұрын
I'm not happy with the place any of these characters are in at the moment so it's probably for the best that theres no JL book at the moment. It means they're gonna have to reboot. They don't have a choice.
@Freakjokerx
@Freakjokerx 8 ай бұрын
To be fair, the hardcover for Gotham War still isn’t out but I know what you mean. It was a terrible story and I’d be surprised to see it on the charts.
@aaronrankin1092
@aaronrankin1092 8 ай бұрын
lol I guess I’ll try to add to the GN numbers as soon as Gotham War gets out of Pre-order lol
@kinglyone7172
@kinglyone7172 8 ай бұрын
Jackson Hyde was a good character when young justice came out. It wasn't until they introduced him in the comics with his mother and his opening scene that the lost interest came about. Sad really because with his character they should have used miles morales as his character base. What if miles had these aqua abilities. Then add that his father was the deadly foe of aquaman. I don't knownwhether or not his mother was established as an atlantean, but how did manta pull that off? So much could and should have been done with that character, but they ran with his orientation as the introduction was the second biggest mistake.
@josephacevedo8376
@josephacevedo8376 8 ай бұрын
No Justice League for 2 years. Well we had to wait for 11 years for the Justice Society to return. It's a shame that DC Comics continued to delay several projects from Geoff Johns. I've always preferred the Justice Society over the Justice League. When the League comes back, they need some good, reliable talent on the book.
@dennisbalch2217
@dennisbalch2217 8 ай бұрын
Likely figured it'd be easier to push the message through titans, as the team is aimed at a younger demographic. Jla would distract from that. More puting the message over good writing and sales.
@magnumcornetto
@magnumcornetto 8 ай бұрын
As a fan of Superman and DC, I liked Jim Lee the best when he was doing the art for X-Men.
@tiptupjr.9073
@tiptupjr.9073 8 ай бұрын
Scott Snyder's Justice League had its problems but I do think it was compelling and really felt like the backbone of the DC Universe. That's the type of book JL has to be. Unfortunately a lot of writers aren't skilled enough to pull that off and Justice League ends up being irrelevant fluff.
@Paulies-Hideout
@Paulies-Hideout 8 ай бұрын
I'm a huge DC Fan and would love to return but to be frank, they completely deserve it. All their talent is gone or leaves (Such as Geoff Johns and Ivan Reis) and they replace them with people that shouldn't be making Super Hero Comics. I've been reading comic books since 1989. I try to give them chances here and there but their content is pretty bad. Hawkgirl #4 pretty much sums up everything I hate about modern content and ties with the worst comic book I ever read. At the moment I am only reading the Energon-Verse. The content from them is amazing. Its made by talented writers that know and respect how the characters work. Cobra Commander should be higher on that list. Such a weird but incredible series.
@jimthar17
@jimthar17 8 ай бұрын
Oddly enough most of the books by Image lately are quite good. Check out Redcoat, Rook: Exodus, Geiger, GI JOE, Holy Roller, Kill Your Darlings, A Haunted Girl, to name a few.
@sweatyheroes4560
@sweatyheroes4560 8 ай бұрын
Aquaman was GREAT with Geoff Johns (one of the best New 52 titles) then....washed out! lol
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
It's overrated.
@JohnYoungT
@JohnYoungT 8 ай бұрын
With all due respect, Supergirl has had almost unbroken and long solo runs since 1996. The full list: 1996-2003 80-issue run (Linda Danvers) 2004 Kara Zor-El reintroduced in Superman/Batman 2005-2011 67-issue run of Kara Zor-El (pre Flashpoint) 2011-2015 40-issue run of Kara Zor-El (New 52) One year gap 2016-2020 42-issue run of Kara Zor-El (Rebirth) The character was ruined during Year of the Villain, where she became a ridiculous monster in Kiss makeup and attire. Cancelled at the height of pandemic in spring 2020.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
Linda Danvers version was so lame. I miss the original Pre-Crisis Supergirl.
@kelpietales4503
@kelpietales4503 8 ай бұрын
Even if DC had a mainstream Justice League book it probably would not have been as fun as JL vs Godzilla vs Kong Kong. This also sucks as a Titans fan as they have spent their "Justice League Replacement (which they didn't need to be, just elevated to their level)" rehashing their old hits everyone is sick of. Even Beast World was one big "Titan Betrays the Team and also dies (but not really)" storyline and they've been rehashing Evil Raven and Trigon since then. Taylor's run has just been boring, pointless, and made the Titans look incompetent.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
Yes ,Justice League title sucked for years.
@namelesswhocares8648
@namelesswhocares8648 8 ай бұрын
Imagine someone, a customer, telling those woke writers at a comic convention that homosexuality and grooming doesn't sell...
@johnwycough1955
@johnwycough1955 8 ай бұрын
Even after stumbles, DC sell much more than Marvel at my store. I had a total of 19 individual Marvel floppies come in this week. Not that many titles, but comics. Couple of Marvel titles, were just a single issue for pull customer only. I sell more image than Marvel.
@tensixtythreecomics
@tensixtythreecomics 8 ай бұрын
I bought 29 books yesterday. Zero dc. 7 of the 29 were indie. Rest marvel. I enjoy your perspective, wondering if you do a video of a book(s) you enjoy each week?
@vasquez73
@vasquez73 8 ай бұрын
Dan Abbnet ?! Thank goodness, he's still in warhammer. He needs to stay out of comic's . They'll tarnish his name lol
@toonytube2444
@toonytube2444 8 ай бұрын
I always want to see the trinity together. That is just the most important thing in DC.
@88playmkr
@88playmkr 8 ай бұрын
New 52 aqua man was good
@danalvin1184
@danalvin1184 8 ай бұрын
I just read a couple dozen issues run of that from #1 -- riveting! Couldn't stop reading them & never really considered myself a fan of the character until this run. . .got them in perfect condition for around a dime each!!!
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
Not isn't not. I never liked to see Arthur killing Black manta daddy and giving a valid reason to him be a super-villain and hate Aquaman. N52 was dark and edge garbage. Nothing more.
@Hal70jordan
@Hal70jordan 8 ай бұрын
Here’s what you do with the JLA: Use the JLA’a rich history by having stories set in the cave and satellite years. Those are the best stories that Dc ever done and that’s PRE-CRISIS! Current JLA can be done with having characters rotated in the current roster. The old days had members rotating as chairmen to lead the team. They also had new members votes and certificates given to those new said members. That’s what made the team special! Also, use the old villains and tweak them to be dangerous. Wonder Woman- George Perez and Phil Jimenez did the character justice! Use those themes that both men created and keep it!!! I’d even go further and say Rucka’s first run was great and have her as the ambassador of Themyscira. That’s how you get her back to what she’s supposed to be. Bring back Challengers if the Unknown and the old space characters of the 60’s. The DC Universe needs more alien worlds and species.
@SpiritOfBagheera
@SpiritOfBagheera 8 ай бұрын
I just want the next Bronze Age JLA omnibus. Why has it taken this long?!?
@Jaymalkin980
@Jaymalkin980 8 ай бұрын
I've never really understood DCs popularity. DC has powers with a character attached and Marvel has a character with a power attached.
@cheeseburgersuperior1874
@cheeseburgersuperior1874 8 ай бұрын
Jim Lee is in autopilot.
@trumangarrick9646
@trumangarrick9646 8 ай бұрын
Justice league usually turns to shit pretty quick, they had the brightnidea last time to hand it over to bendis and he replaced everyone with his shit pet characters, end of the line right after that
@johnwycough1955
@johnwycough1955 8 ай бұрын
Several Marvel titles I don't even order a single title. Not a single customer wants it. An example is.... Daredevil, Thor, Dr Strange, FF, Capt Marvel, She-Hulk, Captain Americaand others.
@johnmoyer9259
@johnmoyer9259 8 ай бұрын
Marvel sales are falling for my store and 3 others i know of. DC comics are absolutely putrid amongst all 4.
@snakeoilkassett9198
@snakeoilkassett9198 8 ай бұрын
Maybe (for once) they choose not to publish any new JL books because they just dont have any good stories to publish. Maybe thats a smarter move than to be crushed by low sales numbers and (more) bad PR for their brand?
@ronaldbourgeois1255
@ronaldbourgeois1255 8 ай бұрын
If they bring back the Justice league I hope it wouldn’t be delayed like JSA.
@joshphelan6770
@joshphelan6770 8 ай бұрын
Dude I live in Ontario Canada and I can tell you if you go into a dollar store and buy a DC graphic novel for 4.50 in Canadian lol
@missmeme3946
@missmeme3946 8 ай бұрын
the people who said that dc wanted to raise the sucide squad and remove the justice league and replace them by the sucide squad were right no wonder there are a game and comic for sucide squad and coming anime and between all of them months or year or two they even turned Justice League into villains in the sucide squad game but the fire turned back at the company
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 8 ай бұрын
Wrong 😅 Dc was replacing the justice league with the Titans...
@briangrindrod4364
@briangrindrod4364 8 ай бұрын
Supergirl did have a 7 year stint from 1996 - 2003. If memory serves right, Peter David wrote them all.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 8 ай бұрын
There's not original Supergirl.Was Linda Danvers version of the character. Just Kara Zor-El is the true Supergirl.
@Rengokuo4o6
@Rengokuo4o6 8 ай бұрын
Dark crisis should have led to the reformation of the justice league. Since it was a worldwide event. Well, did it?
@BrianRidgway-u5g
@BrianRidgway-u5g 8 ай бұрын
Batman First Night has been very enjoyable. The new Hellblazer is incredibly dark but solid. Gargoyles of Gotham very original and exciting. They may not be regular series, but they are fresh, entertaining takes on classic DC characters. But that said, they STILL need a kick-ass Justice League title!
@Rengokuo4o6
@Rengokuo4o6 8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed Batman offworld NGL. I know most people hate it but i am excited for the next issue.
@arturoalvarezkawai6773
@arturoalvarezkawai6773 8 ай бұрын
Maybe not having an JL book right now isn't such a bad idea, Wes. I mean, at least the can't desecrate our beloved characters if there is no book where they can be desecrated, right?
@WyllBG3
@WyllBG3 8 ай бұрын
Great fan of DC here. Is marvel doing better at the salles? Or also suffering like DC?
@aqdrobert
@aqdrobert 8 ай бұрын
Booster Gold: NO JUSTICE LEAGUE, NO PEACE!
@Wagsquag
@Wagsquag 8 ай бұрын
No jla for 24 months? Hadn't noticed.
@JJJawor
@JJJawor 8 ай бұрын
If only Jim Lee stayed as an artist then his legacy would be untouched. Now he is looked upon as a artist, sell-out to his "masters at the DC board" and idiot that doesn't care and understand the comic world. Jim only thinks about money with a stupid smile.
@JDubbsIII
@JDubbsIII 8 ай бұрын
The sad part about the Aquaman thing is that they didn’t even replace Arthur Curry with the good diversity Aquaman in Kalduram. they replaced him with a shitty ass diversity Aquaman
@jimthar17
@jimthar17 8 ай бұрын
AquaPERSON
@JDubbsIII
@JDubbsIII 8 ай бұрын
@@jimthar17 I probably should have said AquaBeing or AquaSapien
@ervingarcia874
@ervingarcia874 8 ай бұрын
Teen Titans comics used to be one of best comics out there. And the Justice League comics are just terrible. The majority of Justice League comics just suck. Outside the 80's Justice League International years and the 90's JLA, and some stand alone/out of continuity stories, Justice League comics are just terrible. DC should hire Kurt Busiek and ask him to do with the Justice League what he did with the Avengers in the late 90's
@Bamamonts
@Bamamonts 8 ай бұрын
I love the DC characters. Superman and Green Arrow have been good stories.
@ThatJohnKillion1970
@ThatJohnKillion1970 8 ай бұрын
No Justice League books? I understand there is a possible boycott of the trinity, but come on! There are enough characters that existed throughout the history of the team to carry a well-written and enjoyable book.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 8 ай бұрын
The titans are basically the justice league now.
@crzdcolombian
@crzdcolombian 8 ай бұрын
I stopped buying Batman and Nightwing because of night terrors and TMNT because they ended the series.
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