STW

[@jrblanton8264]

2:20 start.

[@DebitAdams]

That must be one of the quickest start times

[@just2coolkk]

I know know.... but somehow i was a big fan of him 1994-1996. Diesel & Shawn Michaels togehter and Razor vs. Diesel had something magical in WWF

[@Super122291]

Klik 4life

[@nina2x]

Been waiting on this episode since the beginning of STW!

[@DUFFYISBACK]

same here

[@thedude4672]

Me too! Love Nash, even though his run as Diesel is not the most interesting part of his career.

[@footguy215]

same. Remember the polls? haha this would always lose.

[@TheMagicianBee]

Hi Kevin!

[@LteasAVFC]

The Podcast gods are shinnng down on us all today. Finally a decent episode of STW. Brings me back to the good old days of STW, where every episode was a "must listen". Thank you conrad and bruce, please keep this up for the weeks to come. Please leave them crappy epiosdes alone.

[@malenkas3]

Any you would recommend in particular?

[@joemama7163]

Thanks for the episode Conrad and Bruce. This is my absolute favorite show to listen to, I only wish I'd found it sooner so I didn't binge listen and screw up my sleep schedule. Y'all are the best.

[@Drummer8282]

47:00 Business has been down since WM6 when Vince decided to focus on WBF instead of his bread and butter. Business stays down because of a steroid scandal & ring boy scandal. Also, when you think WWF you think Hogan, Savage, Andre, Warrior - all are gone. Anyone not paying attention on a regular basis is unaware of Bret Hart who doesn’t get the marketing push of a Hogan/Savage/Warrior and also won his first title in a non-televised match in a no-build program with Ric Flair. If you DID turn on WWF programming you were treated to a hockey goon, a garbage truck driver, a clown, an evil dentist, etc. It was a creative low for the company. I was a massive wrestling fan but I too turned it off from 90-95. I had no clue that the belt went from Savage BACK to Flair then to Bret to Yoko to Hogan to Yoko to Bret to Backland to Diesel. Somehow I saw Bret was Challenging Diesel for the belt at Survivor Series and decided to get back into it.

[@Czah5]

Exactly. Alot of people knock Bret and HBK for the dip of the WWF, but I give both tons of credit for managing to keep the entire ship from sinking. I mean seriously, Duke the fuking DUMPSTER Droese and Isaac Yankem, DDS were main eventing while WCW were featuring Golden Era talent on mid cards.

[@RealAlphaDrum]

Survivor Series 95 was a turning point for the WWF. Not because of getting the title off of Diesel, but Bret was becoming the soon to be heel after that match. Watching this time period, things were different after that match.

[@tommymclaughlin3203]

Good to hear from you Bruce and as always Conrad!! Great show as always!!

[@mr.c4p]

How can Bruce shit on JR for talking about Nash's athletic credentials? Was he ever even a fan of wrestling? As a viewer if you hear someone like Diesel was a legit athlete, in this case a basketball player, it gives them credibility and adds to their persona, why is why JR always talked about that stuff. Bruce saying who cares is idiotic. I mean sure of course there's probably some wrestling fans that can give a shit because they don't care about sports (like me), but to the casual viewer that more than likely does follow sports, mentioning Diesel was a former basketball player only helps his appeal. Bruce was so stuck in the bubble.

[@macdaddy1149]

What a great show.Keep doing shows like this.

[@Sincer914]

This was a good show but Holy shit there’s a lot of ads today

[@senshix]

Honestly its been this way for weeks what i do is just google something to wrestle and sticher and other options come up so u can listen to it.

[@justin9767]

U pay not hear ads.

[@ogarstyle]

Just move the cursor to the end of the video and then before the next video starts replay the video and viola no more ads...

[@berkajr3685]

Every three minutes there was an add for me. If KZbin does not realize this will detract viewers, then there is a golden opportunity for a another competitor to shine thru

[@RealSlimPickens]

If you're on mobile, as soon as the video starts slide the bar all the way to the end then hit the replay button, boom! No ads!

[@henrikschmidt3964]

Considering we know that Conrad is the biggest Ric Flair mark out there, he really does a great job of being fair and balanced. I dislike both Michaels and Triple H, but I would never call them less than very compentent pro-wrestlers. Nice work, Conrad!

[@scottyb003]

How do you not have any idea Shane came up with Diesel? Bruce told us this years ago in the Shawn episode.

[@neilsun2521]

Yeah. Bruce told us, so it must be true.

[@heisensaul5538]

Excellent episode. I cant wait to hear about Nash in 1996 before he left for WCW :)

[@anxofernandez3344]

Cornette's criticism on Nash is a little unfair, or at least exaggerated. I think Diesel in WWF had a very decent moveset for a giant. He worked like a big man and used moves like a gut wrench powerbomb, the jacknife, the guillotine legdrop, variations of clotheslines, the chokeslam, the sidewalk slam, back suplex, biel, big boot and several types of strikes...power moves that a guy his side would do. I didn't need to see him doing dropkicks, planchas, moonsaults or anything like that. Giants are giants and Kevin Nash was good at working like a big guy, he had good psychology in thst sense. He also was a good talker and he had a great look, a great voice and he carried himself like a star. Is he as good as the Undertaker, Kane or André the Giant? Of course not. Better than Test or Sid? Most definitely. Big Show? About the same.

[@kamikazekrush3758]

The Undertaker and Andre are icons in wrestling, but as far as a sh*t talking big men, I'll take Kevin over all of them

[@anxofernandez3344]

@Bryan Mack I think in 96 and 97 Brett did draw more than in 93 and 94 but those weren't good times for WWF and neither was Nash's year on top. The difference is that Kevin Nash wasn't so much a singles guy in WCW and he wasn't a main eventer. It's hard to compare them after Nash left WWF. Either way, he may not have been a better wrestler than Brett Hart, Shawn Michaels, Scott Hall, Curt Henning, Steve Austin, Dustin Rhodes, Jeff Jarrett, Undertaker or a few others of that time, but he wasn't a bad wrestler. Certainly he was better than Goldberg or Sid could dream of being.

[@levialbertson2683]

Dude, the ads were out of control here

[@rdtbrik1161]

Skip the adds, run the time to the end. Let the video finish, press X when it's about to show you another video. Start it over without the adds.

[@asdfjkl5713]

Robert Fuentes yeah, Ive tried this on the app on an iphone, IT absolutely does not work. I keep hearing it works. I cannot get it to work

[@deepblue8143]

People crack me up, you're listening for free yet you still complain.

[@lucag.lisickza425]

@@asdfjkl5713 get an android phone

[@lucag.lisickza425]

@@deepblue8143 yup

[@morganwilliams2974]

I was at the June '93 House show in My old hometown of Albany, NY. Shawn Vs Marty was by far the best match. It was exciting on two levels. One: just seeing a Title change at a House show is something special,and Two I couldn't believe Vinnie Vegas was at a WWF show!! Things were so much more exciting before I found the dirt sheets. A more recent Kevin Nash encounter I had happened at a wrestling convention in Albany a few years before I moved. I literally ran into Him! He was walking out of a door way and we bumped into each other. He barley noticed and I went flying. Goodtimes.

[@TMoneySack]

I saw the first WWE house show in Portland in over 10 years back in 2003. The main event was Diesel v. HHH with Ric Flair for the title. The ref got knocked out and Flair called down a another ref right when Diesel hit HHH with the belt and pinned him for the championship. The place went fucking banana! The original ref woke up and reversed the decision and the place went apeshit! A fan reached over the barrier and splashed a beer in Hunter's face and he pulled him over the rail and slammed him on the ground and security jumped on him. That was just a house show. Wrestling used to be so good. Sucks how bad it's gotten...

[@nateemond197]

Back then I watched WWE religiously at about 8. I hated Shawn. I liked Bret and thought Diesel was cool. I did not give a flying fuck if he played basketball. WWE still had the kids back then. Bruce is so right about Diesel here. From what I remember he was a cool looking ass kicker. His finisher was so awesome to me as a kid. It was prolly my favorite for years. JACKKNIFE AND LET HIM GO I DONT GIVE A FUCK HOW HE LANDS! I remember that promo from Bret saying how bad the move hurt him and I really thought that was injured from it. Great episode guys. You will get one who has been here since the beginning back to listening every friday if you have more of these

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

I think it's a great idea to do personality episodes over the course of a few episodes. We'll get so much more insight. If we're not gonna get the marathon episodes like we use to, this is even better.

[@JaoquinKleenex]

Think there’s enough ads?????

[@macdaddy1149]

Shawn did try to make Diesel look bad. He sabotaged Diesels finish and he made it look really bad.

[@leoteasdale7484]

Typical crybaby Shawn. this is just one of many reasons why I hate HBK

[@filfil9960]

Kevin Nash did play for a major university. Tennessee is a big school. He also went to bowling Green.

[@GG-ju5mi]

Only 7300 people at MSG in New York in 1994. Man that show's you how Wrestling wasn't as hot as it was 1985 - 1990. I thought it was cool that MSG had its own channel when they had the WWF House Show's.

[@misternewman1576]

Good episode. Reminded me of the earlier ones on this podcast.

[@PrinceAkkanatan]

22:50 I gotta back Bruce I feel that was a really balanced survivor series team. IRS and Martel, two supervets teaming w Nash and Adam Bomb two (comparatively) green monsters. What wasn't like the other?

[@nickm393]

There was no Meltzer approved workrate midgets I guess.

[@kingfetus4874]

Great show guys can’t wait for part 2

[@jonythewolf6128]

Can't wait for part 2.

[@ZBR_ProXP]

Fantastic episode

[@FilmThePoliceFTP]

That little bit of dirt that doesn’t dump is driving me insane

[@angelanjoshjacobs-matkin1015]

Me 2

[@ciaranmurren]

Part 1!? You mean we get more parts?! I've been waiting 3 years for this!!

[@johnnyso1979]

n....W....o 🙂

[@king425onlyforrest7]

Why sooooo many commercials?

[@clyddebronxx7450]

Spotted Conrad front row at Night of Champions; distracting as hell and he seemed to look at his phone just as much as the ring. Bruce you my nigga!

[@fredbear7087]

I'm a big fan, but is there anything that can be done to make your videos loader? When I hook my phone to the car radio via Bluetooth or audio cable either one, its inaudible with the volume on both devices all the way up. This seems to be the case with all the Conrad podcasts.

[@travelreview5962]

I want an 8 part series on Kevin Nash in the NWO!!! Not the biggest Nash fan, think he lies a lot in the shoot interviews... but, the fucker is cool and here was involved in so much cool shit during the beginning of WCW and WWE 94-95.

[@bowieaz5]

Yeah we all know he had the the worst title run in history but in that new gen era no one was drawing good money. He was the one of the greatest in that era.

[@thomaswright3034]

Where is the Disel Part 2 Podcst?

[@TruckerJenkins82]

Loved me a bit of Deesul

[@KaloKross]

in case anyone is confused with the explanation, brett and hbk were both drawing lower then diesel once hogan was in wcw, so low they couldnt even keep the belt on them. Meltzers reporting negligence out of spite for diesel has been researched to death and proven to be misreporting

[@kylekoontz4507]

Can't wait for big daddy cool part 2

[@deepblue8143]

Wow guys, phenomenal show! Whatever you to did here I really ask that you keep it up. This really reminded me of some of the earlier shows before Bruce got hired back with the WWE. I've been here since the beginning and will always continue to listen, thank you so much for all that you do, and that goes for both of you.

[@josephboza7448]

One lesson that should be taken away from wrestlemania 11 dont depend on a celebrity to make wrestlemania feel important. Diesel and Shawn would have killed it for sure in the main event. Kevin was in the WWF as diesel when the business was down you cant blame him for being not a great draw as WWF Champion.

[@joeyzapata6786]

Where's part two?!

[@edwardkay288]

I would LOVE TO KNOW what the 1995 preliminary post-WM11 plans were without the HBK turn. Obviously, they were building to Diesel/HBK 2 at IYH, then likely move to Diesel/Sid. I have even wondered whether Diesel & LT vs. HBK & Sid at SummerSlam '95 was ever an idea (which would've been nixed since LT didn't want continued participation with the WWF, plus WM11 numbers were underwhelming).

[@boodattigerbait]

Hey about f***ing time boys lol

[@1magtini]

I agree that they completely misused Diesel as champion I’m not quite sure why Bruce thinks the University of Tennessee is a small college

[@williamwest9204]

Enjoying the show. 30 trump smear commercials later

[@bowieaz5]

I know that 911 responds 5 days later.

[@macdaddy1149]

Bruce is 100% right about Diesel turning face and turning him into a super face. I loved Diesel but when he got the title as Nash says “They cut my balls off” and turned him into a soft face instead of a hard face I lost interest in him. Had the left him to be a bad ass I believe he would have brought bigger business to the WWF.

[@Casperpks]

Another great episode. Please do one for 123 Kid/X-pac

[@leandrofranca5943]

3.9 million in 1995! And people say 1995 was the worst year ever? And this was before the attitude era!

[@m050181]

Where is part 2?

[@yosefvargasx]

Is there a part 2

[@joemama7163]

Aside to anyone working for WWE: I hope you show these guys some love. I bought a Network membership just to watch the stuff Bruce and Conrad cover.

[@MikeD974]

Anytime I watch wrestlemania 11 I turn it off after the Diesel vs Michael's match had 0 interest in LT vs Bam Bam

[@KaloKross]

it prob shouldve gone on before the title match but it was a better match, hbk never has a good match with bad wrestlers.

[@bdr113080]

00:37 Bruce is right LOL specially with Kevin Nash being the bodyguard it was kind of his gimmick to get between HBK and the fans. I mean the guys right I can’t count how many times I’ve seen Arn Anderson hold Ric Flair back from the fan at a TBS taping in the 80s and early 90s.

[@timcastro7766]

Love how Conrad swears by Dave meltzers shitty” facts”

[@78bcat]

And when it comes to anything Kliq, he should really just say "According to Bret Hart and Jim Cornette" since those were Meltzers two biggest sources during this era.

[@stingrey1571]

I usually disagree with Bruce. I co-sign a 100% on his take about diesel wwf title run. They took away everything that made him cool in an effort to make him a white meat babyface. They repeated the same mistake with Orton in 2004 and then again with reigns. Rko was spitting in legends’s faces, punting their heads off, throwing down the stairs. He beats Benoit, now he’s smiling, kissing babies and shaking hands. NOPE. Reigns was a silent killer. Then began spouting lame 3rd grade jokes and 1955 catchphrases.

[@GG-ju5mi]

(3.9) Rating for RAW in mid 1990s and in 2020 Rating is (0.5). Wrestling is in a bad spot in past 10+ Year's in my opinion.

[@stanhansen4039]

Cant see it lasting much longer. Another decade? I wouldnt be surprised if its gone

[@jasondouglas152]

I always found it funny how Hall & Nash were both in wcw I'm the early 90s going thru gimmic after gimmic and they did nothing with them. Then they became the " outsiders" from WWF. 😆 Shows how strong the wwf's creative was back then. Take 2 nobodys from wcw and they come back to wcw as the hottest angle in wrestling history + Hogan of course

[@ClassicJM85]

Kind of disappointed we got 30 seconds on why Diesel did not get a clean win over Bret at RR 95.

[@PeterHowe228]

I still think Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels were Diesel's best opponents. WWE knew this to some degree because they had them face each other over and over again. Shawn vs Diesel happened at Wrestlemania XI and In your house Good Friends Better Enemies (April 1996). Bret vs Diesel happened: King of the Ring 1994, Royal Rumble 1995, Survivor Series 1995 and In your house Rage in the Cage (February 1996).

[@TheeCoachg]

What about what Bret inherited from Flair??? Convenient thats never spoke on.

[@nickr4837]

'charmed Pat' I'm sure he did

[@albertgiagnacova1775]

Dying for IRS episode

[@shadycrants2791]

Aew has no larger than life wrestlers. I'm 6'4 and when I went on the Jericho cruise I was like wow, most of these wrestlers are smaller than me.

[@grahamstavers5130]

larger than life doesn't mean physical size

[@GG-ju5mi]

Yeah most are midget sized barely 200 pounds, weak!!! Even guys like Seth ROLLINS would be a Jobber had he wrestled in the Golden or Attitude era's. Wrestling needs larger than life guys not just guys that look like they came outta a pub like KEVIN OWENS and a guy that looks like he gets his ass kicked at the bar at 2am every Friday.

[@Maradala]

You must be some kind of sorcerer

[@marcroyer5507]

"i just assumed you wrote 3 checks" fucking classic

[@Maestro..]

It feels like they covered all of Diesel's big matches in separate episodes already. But it will be nice to hear it all in one. For better or worse, Diesel's title run covers the main event scene of 1995!

[@richardhoffman527]

I remember when Diesel beat Bob Backland for the title on a house show like it was yesterday

[@JeremyNoblitt]

Kevin Nash tore a quad listening to this.

[@patrikbergmark5731]

Randy Savage was to old for wrestling 1994 so he signs with WCW, but Bob Backlund could continue in WWF and be new champ at Survivor.. Why not turn Randy heel and make him champ... Randy was much more interesting than Backlund 1994..

[@brobsty1856]

I remember liking Backland at the time and the crossface chickenwing

[@gospitsgofox2155]

I was always a huge fan of Shawn Michaels after he broke with Marty Jannetty and I thought that the Shawn/Diesel combo was very good. What a shame it was that as soon as the WWF decided to put the big title on Diesel they destroyed his character overnight. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I would have loved to have seen a title run with a face Diesel but still as the same basic character. When Undertaker first turned face, he didn't change. When Stone Cold became a face he didn't change. Why did they have to destroy the Diesel character?

[@henrikschmidt3964]

Before he was leaving they were really taking his character in a Stone Cold direction. I think Kevin Nash would have been the initial 'foul-mouthed' babyface, had he stayed.

[@henrikschmidt3964]

The idea of exposing the product before the Lawrence Taylor match at WrestleMania XI is sound in theory. It's too bad that the 'product' on this night was horrible.

[@TheEvilHumanist]

"Conbernation." - Conrad "Big Momma" Thompson 35:38

[@jasondouglas152]

I must say that Nash accomplished more with less than anyone else in the biz I can think of from his era. Obviously later on guys like Batista , Lesnar , etc broke in fast too , but Nash has the look , the smarts and the size along with being a major backstage political figure .... He made the most of it

[@bowieaz5]

Nash was great. Yes I know his title run was they worst but you could of had a kenny omega okada match in that era and it would be looked at has not drawing in that time the business was down. But nash took us out of that shitty era with the nwo and made wrestling the best it ever was.

[@mox19380]

kevin nash played 3 years for the University of Tennessee that made it to the sweet 16.... isn't that a major school, major program, doing major things

[@michaelriley8879]

"Big Daddy Cool, Diesel. Toot toot" ~The Rock~

[@suitedandbooted363]

Shutup

[@kv01010]

at 54:00 -60:00 Bruce is so right. JR is always hung up on credentials for football or whatever. NO ONE GIVES A SHIT unless your a Kurt Angle, Brock, etc. Kevin Nash wasn't athletic enough to be a "credentials" guy.. Let him be big, nasty, and a smart ass sarcastic. JR ALWAYS got on my nerves in WWE with that shit. I didn't mind it in WCW as much. but it never really fit except with a few guys in wwe

[@lancejames4351]

I kinda wanted to watch the loader finish filling up that hog fuel truck

[@MrMack1622]

Hahahaha Mabel as the 3rd member of the NWO

[@TWOnly666]

What was the office's thinking here? (Commercial) Saving money...

[@danielescalera6638]

Hahaha cock diesel. Made me have a vision of House Party from my childhood lol

[@neilsun2521]

Bruce "MANTAUR" Prichard

[@anthonygarciajr8204]

Finally!!!!

[@MohamedAli-xu3uw]

Nwowolfpactv won't be happy about this.

[@frednichols9851]

Yo!! Good afternoon folks

[@BrandonMobley614]

1:42:08 hilarious exchange 😂😂

[@christopherwilliams7905]

I swear on everything right before Bruce said it I said double entendre out loud!!! Lol

[@kingoffarts8352]

Ok I always thought that lex luger never gave a notice when he left in 1995. From what I understand he tried to go back in 1998 or 1999,and Vince wouldn't re hire him for that same reason. Both Eric bishoff and Tony shivone have said this on their podcasts.

[@trojandarkhorse2022]

Well, technically, he wasn't under contract, his contract expired and he was doing Vince a favor by working without a new contract. So he really didn't need a give a notice. He was able to bring back everyone except Luger and Savage. He bought back Warrior twice and Jarrett who both left on bad terms demanding money...Nash and Hall left for money after Vince made them both superstars. I still don't understand why he didn't bring back after wcw folded....

[@warwickben]

@@trojandarkhorse2022 they had. Large contracts that time aol had to pay for over a year. They could of gone to wwf but wwf didn’t want to match or beat the contract. They chose to make more money and not work for over a year.

[@MrGeo-EmitFodrol]

I loved Nash lol he was great... maybe not in ring but everything else

[@danielescalera6638]

Did you think Oz was great. Oz I will say provided my first WTF moment as a child

[@TheeCoachg]

Exactly,which is why I disagree with Bruce’s critique of JR. Kevin Nash the guy is extremely likeable,transitioning him into “Kevin” only makes sense imo

[@freemind6954]

Nash was a cancer to the wrestling business. He just cared about making money and would bury everybody. He never put anyone over for the good of the business.

[@Super122291]

@@freemind6954 idiot. Pete

[@anthonycummins9558]

Diesel needed a personalty as he turned baby-face and got the belt - as he could talk - and be slick- on the mic - i disagree with the Christmas carol stuff - but he did excel on the mic as he developed personality. Maybe a tweener gimmick was a better idea to get him over.

[@joemama7163]

Bruce is right on here. If you're watching Scarface and every 10 minutes the director breaks in and gives you personal info on Pacino it would ruin immersion and the movie. The Kevin bio crap didn't help the Diesel character.

[@bowieaz5]

When JR was first coming to the wwe macho man said if he brings up my baseball I m knocking him out take said the same thing.

[@bdr113080]

Actually if you want to be technical about it he Kevin Nash did make it to the pros. He played pro ball in Germany. But I see what he saying but there’s always been unnecessary digs that Kevin Nash. Like I’ve heard piper do this before to where piper said something well he didn’t make any money playing basketball either so what’s that say about how good of a basketball player he was? The only reason he quit playing basketball is because of a knee injury in because pro wrestling isn’t a shoot sport That’s something he could pull off with a week and a half. But instead of giving somebody props that had to leave one sport because of injury and was still able to be successful and professional wrestling the guy just gets endless quad jokes even though there’s been at least half a dozen other people that have had quad injuries, it’s used as a reason to define why he isn’t a good wrestler in these simple minded people‘s opinions. I’m never going to say he was the best technique wrestler ever But that doesn’t mean he’s the worst professional wrestler that has ever lived.

[@m050181]

Hulk Hogan didn't take calls while working out? Oh the humanity. What a bastard

[@BASEMENTWORKOUT-s2o]

Real question no RIB. Who taught Diesel Kevin Nash to wrestle?????? School????? Person????

[@thepunditspundit1776]

Johnson Faria I THINK Jody Hamilton

[@stuartmorris2803]

That question.......................was that a rib?

[@luistx16]

1:42:15

[@jaylew8408]

Bruce only knows the answers to 75% of the questions tops, and I think 25% of those answers might be lies because 9 times out of 10 Bruce avoids letting it be known if the wwf pulled anything shady or did anything frowned upon by die hards or people who work in the business

[@PunjabHP]

Do on Great Khali

[@MoriaGecko1]

I think its funny that bruce shits on jr for humanizing nash but defends humanizing Goldberg.

[@bonesbrigader]

I like Kevin Nash. But that story of Bob Holly painting a X on his chin is the stuff

[@angelanjoshjacobs-matkin1015]

lol you don’t actually believe that do u?

[@bonesbrigader]

@@angelanjoshjacobs-matkin1015 Dude, it's 2020. I don't know what to believe anymore. But whatever you do don't tell your kids about santa clause , be a good dad and go fly a kite

[@S1873]

The amount of ads on these are ridiculous.

[@patkob2180]

Each time conrad says I help people with...i feel he is about to say weight loss

[@giustinoscalise3177]

Diesel winning the title on a house show...he was doomed. That, and it was clearly programming for 10-12 year olds.

[@bowieaz5]

I heard conrad say Big Sexy Kevin Nash didnt use the jack knife power bomb in wcw he used snake eyes instead. His move was still the jack knife he would always get fined for using it and hollywood would pay the fine.

[@warwickben]

He was talking pre wwf run