STW

[@TheSweetestScience]

Show starts at 4:51 .

[@shaolin1derpalm]

I came about too early. That's what I said.

[@TiltBrook]

The final SNME with Jesse Ventura

[@BeeBumper]

Was it the very last or was it before he was hired back after NBC said no Jessie no deal

[@andresabucco6482]

Humanize the ultimate warrior? That's like saying "hey let's make superman more Human. People don't want to see all those powers."

[@cob2076]

I kinda preferred the " Obsession" intro theme tbh....

[@Drummer8282]

This match did not make anyone want to buy the PPV - Rude did not see like a threat to Warrior. Ultimate Warrior pretty much defeated him on free tv here on SNME, so why pay to see it again? Terrible booking after Mania 6.

[@Dizzy1980]

Hell, Rude didn't seem at all like a threat to Warrior after their well-received, well played feud ended in 1989. They appeared in high profile spots at THREE of the four WWF Pay Per Views in 1989. It made it worse in 1990 when Rude constantly referred back to their old matches, basically reminding us all about what already happened between the two.

[@Drummer8282]

Chris Terry exactly. I’ve long maintained that the Warrior’s first major feud should have been against the Earthquake. Advertise that Summerslam ‘90 would see Hogan’s return to announce if he will retire. Hogan announces that he won’t retire and is demanding a match with Earthquake - title or not. Warrior then has Earthquake beaten when Dino Bravo interferes and leads to a 2-on-1 beat down of the Warrior, but here comes Hogan to the rescue. Hogan and Warrior team at Survivor Series’90 against Earthquake, Bravo and Slaughter - setting up Warrior vs Slaughter at Royal Rumble, while Hogan enters the Rumble with the stipulation that the winner of the Rumble gets a title shot at Mania 7. This sets up Hogan vs Warrior 2 - Title vs Career. Hogan Wins the belt possible turning heel in the process.

[@GG-ju5mi]

Warrior should have feuded with PERFECT, EARTHQUAKE in 1990.

[@Dizzy1980]

@@Drummer8282 Warrior/Earthquake would've been interesting, but Warrior/Hogan again would've been a terrible idea regardless of the circumstances. The familiarity would've been too great for either man to overcome. Hogan NEVER would've succeeded as a heel in 1991, not even close. Warrior/Savage at Wrestlemania VII was a much better match and a much better program that carried the WWF as well (and arguably better) as Hogan/Slaughter.

[@POW1E19]

I would wager Rude taught Warrior to sell for him. And chances are good, Rude promised a ‘receipt’ if he didn’t.

[@lossiiburns]

They need to make a box set of snme ASAP!!!

[@GG-ju5mi]

I love RICK RUDE but how can you give the Warrior a push and give him an opponent who he had a feud a year before with? Hogan always got fresh new talent to work with. Plus He had only 2 Major pay per views which he was WWF CHAMP, given an opponent who he fought in 3 out of 4 Major pay per views the previous year and then loses it to SGT SLAUGHTER at the Royal Rumble'91. Warrior should have had different wrestler's to wrestle with but obviously didn't.

[@johnepants]

I have said this on other videos, but Hogan mowed through all of the top heels in 1989, and also the top heels of 1990. Warrior should have feuded with Perfect and Earthquake for the belt, but instead, Hogan got Perfect in the first half of the year and beat him in April, and also got Earthquake as the big summer storyline. I think it’s grossly unfair to say Warrior didn’t draw as champion when the focus was still placed on Hogan so much.

[@GG-ju5mi]

@@johnepants Your right, WWF didn't FULLY give the Ball to WARRIOR & say "OK RUN WITH IT" cuz they had "1 Foot in and 1 Foot out" and still was pushing HOGAN!!! Yer right, WARRIOR Should have had a Feud in 1990 with MR PERFECT, EARTHQUAKE (Even though he did Wrestle them a Few time's on House Show's) and in 1991/92 could have feuded with SID JUSTICE, RIC FLAIR instead of PAPA SHANGO!!!

[@johnepants]

GG #79 it would also be interesting to see what the plan could have been had the Gulf War not happened. There would be no Sgt Slaughter push. Would Warrior have been able to hold onto the strap and have a rematch with Hogan at WM7? Or would he have had a big title feud with Macho Man and have a Career Ending Title Match. I think the Rude/Hogan/Macho Man feuds proved that when Warrior was motivated, he would have classic matches.

[@DetailDude]

Anyone else getting their ads interrupted by some sort of rasslin podcast?

[@mikelewis5335]

It's ridiculous now 🤣

[@E_l_l_i_e]

I'll have that sad Real American theme playing at my funeral.

[@chachopichardo1879]

Red that lame

[@E_l_l_i_e]

@@chachopichardo1879 what about the NWO theme?

[@chachopichardo1879]

Red why u want that song u die I have better song then that when I die

[@StevosNetwork]

@@E_l_l_i_e That's for life, not death 😆

[@johncap5130]

I think the awesome far from lame...it be cool play for someone fresh out of rehab then as leave the parking lot hit the upbeat version!

[@Dizzy1980]

37:40 Huge mistake to "humanize" Warrior. The face paint was one of the things we loved most about Ultimate Warrior, and they should've left it alone.

[@marcuswhitlow548]

Another great show, guys. EDIT: I just noticed you included timestamps in the video description. Pretty handy! I'm not sure if I just hadn't paid attention in previous videos or if this is one of the first times you've done this...

[@MattSingh1]

Great show? Stooge Prichard is a proven conman, fraud and liar. He's been exposed and owned multiple times by pioneer and hall-of-famer Dave Meltzer.

[@vannavanity1195]

It's always eerie to me when Prichard talks about Ventura. It's almost like he's either too afraid to say something negative over fear of lawsuit or there was a lot of enmity to gaslight him while he was employed, especially after his role in the Predator I think Ventura is the most underrated of the golden era, similar to how Sable is underrated in the Attitude Era, both of whom were major stars and neither needed the industry. Both were perfect complements to the key stars Hogan and Austin respectively. Ventura was the perfect anti-Hogan, while Sable best captured the general mindless, late 90s ascetic turn of culture. But Ventura was so much more than that. He laid out strategy, had consistent ethics about what was permissible in the ring, and called out the WWF's schizophrenia in endorsing good guys who cheated, used weapons, or beat women. Ventura wasn't wrong to say something like Duggan is fine to use a 2x4 against Dino Bravo, who at best had his manager take minor liberties in the ring. Duggan didn't use proportional force, while McMahon would be your Cold War patriotard. I also think Ventura was the unsung hero of the 1989 success between Hogan and Savage over Elizabeth by calling her a golddigger, Hogan as trying to innocuously sexually grope her, and telling the story of Savage's paranoia. Without him as chief instigator, the story never would have sold as well. He's the one who made what was campy WWF serious. I also liked how he wasn't as stereotypical as Heenan. Heenan never sided with good guys so in big events of two good guys facing off, Heenan made the commentary about himself. Ventura didn't do that for Warrior and Hogan, as he knew the best way to deal with fan partisanship was to promote the match as a sports fight. He sold strategy in very nuanced ways, he emaciated Vince McMahon, his remarks were hilarious, and he always made good guys look good by pushing their best moves, while chastising them over "rookie mistakes" It's clear Prichard doesn't like him. It could be professional jealousy but I feel like it's the WWF echo chamber (similar to how everyone suddenly hated the Ultimate Warrior once McMahon claimed falsely that he held a big event hostage for ransom). He can say what he would like to, but the WWF never recovered from color commentary when Ventura left. He was as good as long as Hogan stayed around. Piper was so obnoxious that I couldn't listen to him. Savage wasn't good. Heenan and Monsoon could be great but their stuff was best in selling comedy banter for exhausting squash marathons. Ventura was the one you wanted for the big events! I don't think Lawler ever came close later on, and he could be funny as quick as he would be grating. Ross was good but Ventura sold strategy so much better Ventura was the guy you hated but to whom you had to listen to get your scoops. Super underrated

[@butch5419]

100%

[@butch5419]

I do think Lawler was GREAT tho… maybe not better than Jesse but damn close… and that summerslam warrior story was false?

[@vannavanity1195]

@@butch5419 Yeah, so, the story came from McMahon for 15 years, believed by Meltzer, that Warrior held him hostage for Summer Slam 1991. Turns out that McMahon agreed to his demands 6 weeks prior. He didn't fire him until the night of. In short, McMahon claimed he was curve balled for years. McMahon wasn't since he did agree to pay him Hogan money. That came out in a lawsuit upon discovery in 2004 or so Too bad too. Warrior was awesome 👌 Underrated worker, not as good as Hogan, much better face than Bret Hart, could've made it in any era in wrestling, super intense guy, listened to when he spoke, really intelligent. Drawback is he could be hard to work with, wasn't really respected though I think a lot of that was jealousy and group thing. Warrior was better than Jake Roberts and Texas Tornado, both of whom get a lot of praise. He had much better matches against the same opponents than both side. Facts. Yet people uncritically repeat group think since doing so is supposedly the educated thing to do. Whatever. Warrior was never the same performer after that IMO. He came back in 1992, and he just seemed to treat it like a job. Sad. He was awesome up until 1991.

[@dukiewilkos4247]

Maybe the most ads I have ever seen...

[@eabcool]

Rude couldn't have been grumpy about not eating because he actually bulked up after WrestleMania 6. Also that song was not Obsession. That was the Animotion song they dumped for the average instrumental. Also why is Conrad so obsessed with who was coming in during the summer of 1990? There was always coming and goings.

[@johnhill6412]

"I love that sweeping crowd of the shot....." As much as you love a new paint of coat? 45:46

[@masterfulsky]

10 adds in the first 25 minutes really interrupts the flow of the podcast

[@lotokiba851]

Dear Bruce me and my friends actually watched the whole raw last night because of what the hurt business was doing give them more screen time and titles

[@dalynsanders]

I was always a fan of Vince's commentary.

[@kevinbudzinski9576]

The cover! 1, 2 he got him! No, he didn't!

[@Super122291]

@@kevinbudzinski9576 hell yea. Kevin

[@Rando1975]

Even though I had really lost interest in Hogan at that point, when they played that slow, somber version of Real American and the video package, I was in tears.

[@Rando1975]

@Alex Kanyima I just got tired of Hogan being on top of the card all the time.

[@TiltBrook]

Come on Conrad, even as a kid, I understood the play on words with “Omaha!”

[@Ziki-P]

Had this on vhs as a kid, I taped every Saturday night main event. Unfortunately I didn’t start watching wrestling till 1990 so I didn’t have many

[@Super122291]

U old fart

[@davidbowieridingatigeronar4370]

Bruce putting over the ultimate warrior as a talented worker. Tell that to STW #4. It's amazing how WWE money can change your perspective. Come on Bruce, just don't say anything if your going to lie through your teeth!

[@ogarstyle]

'Bout daggone time!! LOLz

[@ogarstyle]

I meant it in a nice way... LOLz

[@stevebragg4256]

Anyone think Bruce is being kinder to Warrior because he has to encounter Dana Warrior being she works for WWE too? I believe his is being honest, but keeping his focus more on positives.

[@NLaBar]

Anyone think Dana Warrior would ever listen to this podcast?? Lol

[@stevebragg4256]

@@NLaBar Even if she didn't she might hear about what is said from other people who have listened to it.

[@jonanderson4867]

Love listening to stw every week without fail

[@juice4080]

i was a WWF loyalist and even i knew the Road Warriors were the real deal and that Demolition were just a ripoff albeit a very good ripoff

[@mattthomas1442]

I agree with the guy that asked about the lack of promotion. As a kid I remember we would get a TV guide with the Sunday paper and every Sunday first thing I would do is look to the following Saturday's schedule to see if SNME was on cause I never knew when it was on and I watched the syndicated shows regularly. Also watched Prime Time Wrestling every week but admittedly didn't always make it through the whole show before bed so maybe they did some promotion then.

[@butch5419]

Was thinking the same thing. Every time I caught it (As a 4-7 year old) it was just randomly going to channel 4. But maybe that’s cuz I was 4-7 years old.

[@matthewmaher35]

Holy ads

[@f3099]

How boring

[@halstewart923]

This is the moment Ultimate Warriors push as champ was killed.

[@TheSwerveShow]

Yep! :(

[@GG-ju5mi]

Yup, WWF gave him an opponent he feuded with the previous year and worked in 3 of the 4 Major pay per views with. Rick Rude was great but he should have feuded with MR PERFECT, EARTHQUAKE.

[@federicodistefano6891]

It was not killed. It never came to life. What did they expect? For him to draw whatever the opponent? Come on! They gave him washed up challengers and Six man tags! If they rally wanted him to succeed, he would have been the one feuding with Earthquake. They just wanted a transition to have Hogan come back somewhat fresh in time for the title chase heading to WrestleMania VII

[@Dizzy1980]

45:45 Ahem... Seth Rollins style? No, Seth Rollins swings the belt Ultimate Warrior style!

[@JackMaxwell-y6t]

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[@mattthomas1442]

As far as why Vince and not Gene interviewed Hogan I just assume it's because Gene was supposedly on location in "Africa" so it wouldn't make sense for him to also be live at the arena. Edit: Wrote this before listening to the whole show and Didn't realize Conrad addressed this later in the episode.

[@halstewart923]

Despite winning the IC title, 1990 was a bad year for Mr. Perfect. Eliminated last at the Rumble, lost to Beefcake at WM6, Lost to Von Erich at SummerSlam, his team lost the opening match of Survivor Series.

[@butch5419]

Only thing that shouldn’t have happened was WM6

[@lakebay972]

Curt Hennig was an AWA star. Like many others, come to WWF; Vince will bury you.

[@chadpugh1490]

Von Erich wrestling with a prosthetic foot is amazing to me.

[@BeeBumper]

Haku seems like one of the nicest guys you could meet. Why people go out of their way to tick him off is baffling. I would be "big fan, yes sir, no sir, may I buy you a drink sir". I certainly wouldn't be like "you are one of those fake wrestlers... Well sadly Kerry didn't do much in wwf. Amazing talent but well past his prime with the no foot and drug issues

[@davey3884]

Lmao there isn't two sides to the Demolition/LOD argument, the Road Warriors came 5 years prior to Demolition..

[@josephboza7448]

This was a fun episode. I loved the wild kingdom theme to Saturday Nights Main Event. It did its job of setting things up on the road to Summerslam 1990. Dave Silva did a great job with the art work as always. Ultimate Warrior was a great performer in the ring. He might have been a pain in the ass backstage but he was a presence in the ring. The match with Rude did a great job of setting up the Steel Cage Match for Summerslam.

[@Rjensen2]

The Wild Kingdom gimmick did nothing to promote Summer Slam. WTF are you even talking about? How do you connect "Wild Kingdom" to Summer Slam. You kind of exposed how you never even watched it. 🤣🤣🤣

[@chosento2988]

DO NOT EVER STOP DOING THESE SHOWS....THANK YOU, BOTH OF YOU !

[@aaronwilliams8728]

Love you guys! ❤️

[@jonathonlyons4417]

Thankyou gentlemen, it'll be worth the wait. Highlight of my week

[@chickenman6685]

“It’s not the woods, they are in the wild” classic

[@macstar2010]

Totally agree that the SNME theme tune was the best of the lot.

[@TheeCoachg]

Love Conrad but damn how does he manage to squeeze Flair into EVERY single episode. Geesh,even Bruce sounded annoyed.

[@TheGreatestPlayerInTheWorld]

He has to mention his father in law 😂😂

[@brandonford4474]

Why would there be adds during a watch along?

[@jaydaville1105]

20 min in to this video and 3/4 is adds... the fuck

[@BASEMENTWORKOUT-s2o]

So many ads

[@mox19380]

curt hennig during these years (90-91/92) is an absolute marvel to watch.

[@mox19380]

I never could understand why Kerry VE didn't want to embrace the amputated leg angle. It would make him seem all the more heroic and strong that he could compete, almost without missing a beat, with 1.5 legs. The modern warrior gimmick to the next level. Seems like it would've been better for him personally not to hide such a major secret and the impact it had on his daily life

[@emfs9522]

holy fuck with the ads

[@xzzz444x9]

Countdown at 30:41

[@gregjohnson2824]

Easy for me to say

[@mj-7444]

Too many fkn ads

[@bubbamoseks9522]

king of the ring font

[@deepblue8143]

With all due respect Conrad what do you mean the Wild Kingdom did not age well? This is awesome and it's different. Let's be real this is the best era of all time.

[@matthewbaumber4244]

Rick Rude dropped the stripper look and went full on Tom Selleck! And it was better for him.

[@cleftturnip7774]

I always thought the powers of pain were the wwe version. Not demolition.

[@neilsmith2009]

Wish someone would put some more snme shows on KZbin original aired version ideally

[@TheUnsilentMajorityBigmo-ev8sr]

Not enough ads

[@murraysaucedo897]

The Coronavirus!!! OOGA BOOGAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! OOGA BOOGAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Maestro..]

My KZbin app is updated so when you put timestamps in the description, you can see the chapter names as you skim thru it. Cool!

[@chrisbide3444]

Yeah but now you can't skip to the end and replay the video without getting rid of the ads

[@reallyretro]

Rick Rude brought out what he could from the Ultimate Warrior, but it wasn’t enough for warrior to be draw as champ for much longer.

[@dalynsanders]

The mad dog vachon was fun

[@andresabucco6482]

Mr. Perfect was a great champ because of his tan. Lmao I love it when Bruce needles Conrad with shit like that

[@andresabucco6482]

Rude could have been a top heel had he stuck around. Once he dropped the goofy mannerisms he was gold

[@TheEvilHumanist]

"Dr. John Richards." - Bruce Prichard 3:40

[@markmenning1804]

Brother Love Jr new Wwe champion on Raw tonight

[@joemama7163]

Can we get a few hundred more ads to completely kill the flow of the narrative?

[@scurbag]

Soooo many advertisements 😑😑😑😑

[@vcvortex6356]

Listen on Google Podcasts. Problem solved.

[@codyroberts7993]

Commercials every 2 minutes dont bother watchin

[@scottshaffer7296]

Maybe there can be a Kerry von Eric episode

[@mikelewis5335]

Why ? He wasn't in the WWF long enough for a cup of coffee

[@stevenhanna1434]

I'd be HOT if i had a guy that has never booked a wrestling match or own a wrestling company taken shots any chance he gets

[@c.bretmiller6148]

Jebus... There are advertisements every 5 minutes!