SUB 250g 5-inch Freestyle?.. Enter The Outlaw!

[@saucyfpv8928]

he said "you're gonna have a legit 5 inch experience" I bet he says that to all the ladie's.

[@SlavaChrome]

=))

[@TheGreatPizzaMasterpiece]

Lol yeah I thought about sampling that bit hahaha

[@jamesmichaelcabrera9613]

😂

[@gapanico]

So you built a drone to comply with laws, and called it the outlaw.

[@bwasfpv]

lol

[@T1Ledlie]

No, no. He's got a point.

[@DJ_Kelpie]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ariella360degree]

🎉 way to push the limit.

[@johnshite4656]

So it should really be called the "Inlaw"?

[@fiskiee_fpv]

Sean coming onboard is literally the best thing to happen to rotor riot.

[@BubbyFPV]

Shawn is a LEGEND!!!

[@fiskiee_fpv]

@@BubbyFPV your the best too also love that your on the channel now as well!!

[@bitcell-8100]

@@BubbyFPV yes my boiii

[@rhadiem]

I think it's a good team, Le Drib for the personality and charisma, Sean for the technical wizardry and Bubby for added personality / piloting.

[@tb303wpf1]

Facts

[@jaggyfpv3865]

@11:20, the two props that came off have screws which thread opposite to the rotation of the motors, hence why they back themselves out over time. It seems this affects the screw attached props more versus the nut attached props. But, if anybody here is an older geezer, like myself lol, you may remember having CW and CCW motors which had reverse threaded bolts on the two motors to counteract the loosening of the prop nut.

[@Jrod_FPV]

adding throttle expo helps an overpowered quad feel more manageable while not taking away from the top end/ top speed. if you do it in betaflight, make sure to change the throttle expo centered at 0 throttle, not the default centered at 50%.

[@bergfpv6486]

I feel your pain drew. Sorry for your loss. When I'm about to lose a sneeze, I turn my face to the brightest part of they sky, or ceiling for that matter. Works more often than not.

[@uptimefpv]

I built a few of these style quads (dry weight is 140g), and the trick is 86-91% throttle clip, throttle mid 0, and a throttle expo of 0.1. Also make sure to use longer M2 screws on the motors than stock to keep the props on! That is a pretty awesome frame!

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

This vs the ummagawd. I did want a vista freestyle. Was thinking lightweight over full weight.

[@LetsFlyRC]

@@divingfalconfpv4602 this frame also comes with pre-drilled 20x20 fc holes, in case you want to try something different, like a de-cased vista.

[@AliBFPV]

So much jello on throttle. That flexible frame working wel 🤣

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Can't great around on light frames. So many add arm braces to help a lil. Without arm braces over 80% throttle my lightweight 5" wobbles and pulls up and left. I'm trying to tune it out. And think I'm going to add the arm braces. But mine meant for cruising long range. Though I want it to be able to have fun on a Lipo

[@tubsucks]

Remember they had a bent prop, they mentioned that

[@AliBFPV]

Every flight they high throttled there was jello

[@tubsucks]

@@AliBFPV It prob also has to do with the camera mount also. TPU hasn't served me well in camera mounts Need something thicker.

[@bandobandit353]

Everyone: we're not willing to consider a 4 inch 250g drone because we want the 5 inch experience Also everyone: this 5 inch 250g quad feels different to a regular 5 inch

[@MrFadjule]

Give it time. 8s 4", leader of fpv 2022

[@daverips_]

Sub250g 4" is where its at! Its called disc loading folks!

[@NightTrainFPV]

good stuff..my boy mehop out with the boys..nice.. great rips from bubby..boats..and bandos..nice

[@SkyborneProductions]

When I see the boat, I know this is gonna be an amazing episode!

[@dominikdino4843]

13:01 the way it just goes in front of him like i need assistance lol

[@LetsFlyRC]

Such a fun day. I can’t believe it found it’s way all the way down to the one tiny little puddle of water at the bottom. 😂 BTW, after it dried off, everything still worked. 👍

[@WrongWayFPV]

Nice!!

[@athefpv4670]

Even the SMO4k? I would have thought it was toast.

[@LetsFlyRC]

@@athefpv4670 yes. It works, too. I didn’t think it would survive either. 😆

[@bbblllaaaj]

Did you unplug battery when you found it or did you let it dry first?

[@cacamacaaa]

Common..

[@orion.v2462]

Holy s***! I was looking for one yesterday and couldn't find anything! Thank you so much!!!!! ❤️

[@patricksharp3355]

ummagawd made a really nice frame as well

[@FPVMama]

I learned so much watching this. Such a great episode!

[@BRadFPV]

Please encourage Caleb to drop his edit. It’s so worthy!

[@FPVMama]

@@BRadFPV I've been telling him!!!! Please tell him tooooo!

[@Shauny_D]

The lightweight stuff I've been messing with always needs the idle speed dropped. The power and flight time is cool but you don't drop nearly as fast as you'd expect. So drop the idle or go to 4" props and it feels really really close to 5".

[@RobRiggenv5]

Great episode! Nice drone, will consider. Bubby rocks!

[@BRadFPV]

Super day... great episode 💯💥🔥A sub 250g quad will be in my hangar when the day comes. It's nice to know RR has a sweet build ready to go 😍

[@DanishStallion]

Everytime i see one of my local bandos and i am not there makes this pony sad lmao, great episode guys!!

[@LetsFlyRC]

Me too. 😂

[@no-trick-pony]

Greetings from EU, where we not only have the

[@mustermann7468]

The 250g limit is irrelevant if you have a camera on it...

[@Hellsfoul]

Typically EU, just regulating everything. Build the drone yourself, it is rated as 25kg drone ....

[@Gereon_]

Wait what? Then I unintentionally broke those laws for quite some time now. Whoops. But honestly, why does this hobby need to be regulated so heavily? So annoying...

[@Hellsfoul]

As far as I know, there is a 2 year transition phase. All drones need a CE lable and so on. The hobby will get very expensive, if you have to make a drone drivers license. And then in a few years, no child is interesed anymore in building his/her own drone. No knowledge is gained in electronics and physics. So sad ...

[@mustermann7468]

@@Gereon_ the rules changed on 01.01.2021

[@Ellexis]

16:29 The face of a proud papa! 😁👍👍

[@cpfpv6410]

going fast is sort of my thing! ...im in love with it

[@VincentFischer]

The Ballad of serenity comes to mind

[@TheGermanWizardLizard1984]

Use something like thread lock or Teflon tape on the bolts to keep the props on.

[@luis_gbs]

Could you tell me how heavy the Outlaw Frame itself is? Somehow you missed to add that info on your website...

[@ryanbunnell7488]

That will be an awesome build. I will have to try it out.

[@sonnyifindleaks]

I've watched this a couple times.. Love this build for the ones who w a light weight crusher regardless of the sub 250g :). Def on my build ' to-do' list

[@PeugeotL-vd2le]

This seems like my favourite attempt at a sub 250 5 inch I can’t believe it can carry a HD camera and still remain under

[@lavachemist]

Shouldn't it be called the In-law? :D

[@knight907]

Every time the subject of

[@conorstewart2214]

I dont really understand the remote ID thing, does the quad have to transmit the users ID and is that done with the flight controller or like another component to stick on the drone. If you need to find a way to get the drone to transmit this signal then for people like me who have built their drone from scratch then how does that work, would we also need to add an extra transmitter and program it to output our ID or would you be able to buy an ID transmitter that you just give power to and then it just works. Basically what im asking is do we need to program the flight controller to output this remote ID or can you buy a remote ID box and just plug it in.

[@WildpixFPV]

@leDrib: if u wanna sneeze and it won't come out, look into a bright spot/light! Always works!

[@MrFadjule]

Drew: "What is this, VHS?"

[@jeffswope1511]

Sweet build

[@integralogic]

That thing took the hit like a champ

[@xymaryai8283]

yeah, that first crash was real hard, just reconnect the camera and boom back in the air I really wish those motors weren't T mount thought, the little screws are so annoying, I'd rather risk having to replace the motor bell if a shaft snapped just to have the locking nut

[@DennisRiessbeck]

What was that smo4k fov set to? It looked waay too narrow to look good. Love the lightweight 5inch though

[@LongTail8443]

Wow, freestyle drones are awesome. You build it, you fly it, 100% skill.

[@meriam4109]

Here in Europe we finally have clear rules, but it means you have to pass an exam and register for a >250gr drone. Now I'm within the law flying my fpv drones when I'm using an observer. It costs money to register your drones and the course you have to follow to pass the exam. Still happy flying, chased a quad and dirt bike yesterday, felt like I was in Rotor Riot for a moment.

[@nistax2880]

the observer was always nesesery , and you need the exam for stuff under 250 too if it has a camera. but luckily if you want to fly away from people the exam for that is easy af

[@tijsp.8162]

You don't have to register your drones, only the pilot needs to be registered. Maybe it's your national law?

[@tijsp.8162]

@@nistax2880 for NL it's actually pretty nice, because before the EU rules we weren't allowed to fly FPV even with an observer

[@benjotyson7183]

What is the bigges propellor for sub 250? 6" possible or even 7" 🙊????

[@randomstuff-cu4of]

wonder how this would do as a long range quad with 2s 18650s. also the fc might not like the lower voltage of them as cutoff for li ions is 2.8-2.5v but you would get over 2x the energy in watt hours compared to both the lipos on the website.

[@shivajijana7197]

One tip for T-motor here would be to add the nylon (white thing in the nylock nuts) in the prop screw threads to prevent the props from coming off due to vibration.

[@phatz5330]

This is sick, i have a jar for saving and im ready to start my fpv journey

[@grantswann2815]

Have my a couple 250g racing quads the power is unreal !!

[@Pyrolassist]

Hey Ledrib. Instead of a throttle cap just build one with lower KV motors. It’s like flying with a light cap and can get longer flight times. 5“ toothpicks are not only for legal requirements I personally find a lot more pros than full size 5 ” once you get used to them. A little less inertia, that’s about it.

[@odyss160]

whats the exact prop, cant seem to find the exact one because i dont keep up to date with the lates when it comes to props.

[@LetsFlyRC]

The props we used were prototypes sent from GemFan and were very high pitch. I don’t think they are available for sale, yet.

[@maceliusfpv370]

Love how drew ducks every time that thing powers by lol.

[@TheEviling]

Is there going to be a kit for DJI Vista version also?

[@Airbrushkid]

I see you can use a Caddx Vista in it. So does it take it over the 250 gram mark?

[@slrae9553]

could you do an updated version of the how to FPV series

[@bradgibson1976]

ROTOR RIOT please Help= I got the nazgul evoque f5x analogue but i have no idea how to unlock the succex600mw vtx? I have a bando power station to crash and rip once i can unlock this quad. Everyone else has blanked me... Thanks.

[@MadDragon75]

Thanks for that video guys. I'm inspired to spend $ now. ✌😉👍

[@Gavin_b3ns0n]

What AIO flight controller is it using? I heard the specs but not what it is.

[@Gosuminer]

You should call it The Twitchy. Excellent frame and component choices.

[@LeslieWorks]

Dude flying the bando from the moving boat was badass lol

[@werewolvesfpv5002]

Throwing this out there, why not put some spring washers on the prop bolts? Light and would ensure bolts stay tight :)

[@auckwads8169]

Great vid . Is the frame going on the store ?

[@CarbonGlassMan]

We are just going to have to be happy with 3 and 4 inch quads. 5 inch is great because of the weight and because of the momentum that it has. 5 inch props just happen to be the size prop that can throw that weight just right. If we can't have the weight then I don't see a reason to stick with 5 inch props. But what do I know?

[@tango_sierra8608]

Hell yeah Monday blues picked up by the RR episode

[@TheFlyingManiacs]

@11:47 ask T-motor if they can put a little nylon locking in the bell....

[@nikkofpv2902]

Is this location easy to get to?? I'm visiting in August. I would love to fly it.

[@Quadtastrophe]

use a longer antenna on your quad for better penetration/signal.

[@tommypoteat9433]

Just now seeing this love it new into the hobby

[@Dan53086]

What's overall weight with battery?

[@soflorclife6970]

Big thumbs up soflo Fam 👍🏼🔥💯🦅

[@MadDragon75]

I've had a FAA license since they became a thing. First one was free. I never needed it. Lol even when I flew my Runner 250. So, where do I get one of these?

[@onimus93]

Buba really out here living his best life.

[@fcass]

That little rig is pretty cool.

[@r00kiet80]

thank god finally a session replacement cant wait for that insta360. did they leak this product i cant find any information online

[@nikscherer]

it's been out for quite a while. Just google insta360 smo

[@r00kiet80]

@@nikscherer jeah i found it just never read or heard anything about it wierd

[@cj691]

How does it compare to the X Knight?

[@baggszilla]

Shaun awesome 😎 job on that sub250! And great components also with at CLRACING F7 AIO. I love it!

[@christopherm-84]

In South Africa, you only have to be approved by the SACAA (South African Civil Aviation Authority) if flying anything over 7KG.

[@mrtrendizzle]

I know this is 2 years old but someone should make a sub 250g drone that's body (FC, ESC etc...) and all you do is "click it" in to the arms with motors with little pop on connectors. This way if you crash and snap an arm you can just unclick the main body and swap out the arms in seconds.

[@steffenfpv5579]

what FC/ESC did you use?

[@LetsFlyRC]

All of the parts can be found here: rotorriot.com/collections/outlaw-sub-250gram-drone

[@RCRitterFPV]

for flex and strength, how about 2 - 1.5 - 2mm layers sandwiched together? bottom layer could be swapped out when it wears out from landings... Ramblings below... still seems the disc load per gram would be the thing we are chasing rather than just 5" like ~600g 5" is ideal right??? So 250... still to me doing the math... 3.25" @ 250 g should have same disc load as 600g 5" but is everyone just putting twice the battery size on the 250 quad? it's 250 if you use a 4s 450... but lets use as a 1100... so everyone with a 250g quad is really 330g? I get 3.65" prop @ 330g would = disc load of a 600g 5" hrmm... then add a gopro... or insta smo (30g) now 360g...

[@NorthStarDrones]

Awesome 💯great job guys 👌👍👍

[@trigatupp]

thats cool , looks like only thing holding back is shark byte , as didn't have any pentation.

[@LetsFlyRC]

DJI has breakup in the same place at this location.

[@ommanomnom]

Perfect. UK FPV newbie here. The drone laws suck. This video finally gives me a baseline so no one can hassle me and I can fly carefree like we are meant to. We don't spend thousands of pounds on licensing, certificates, safe equipment and high class training just to get shouted down by karens and the law. Screw them. Sub 250g is the way. 2021 and 2022 is the year of the sub250 moonshine drone

[@KetaFPV]

Thousands of pounds? Unless you're doing drone work professionally there is zero need to be spending thousands of pounds on drone training, just to fly an FPV.

[@ommanomnom]

@@KetaFPV indeed. But some people do take it that seriously. However, even if there is no need to spend that much, it is still an expensive hobby and the industry can easily be ruined or gatekeeped with a ruined market because of overegulation.

[@nikkofpv2902]

Do they all fly at zero degree tilt?? I couldn't fly like that. I need 37° min. I prefer 42 freestyle, 56 racing

[@slowridefpv9668]

Dribs new energy drink “bando juice”!

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Damn now I need to get sharkbyte.. My lightweight is 220g with m8q-5883 gps and dual diversity antenna and vista .

[@Ethanol130]

I litterally live right next to this bando... I hadn't even thought about flying it 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@shadofpv]

Lush spot. Just absoloutely stunning 🛸🏝

[@benjotyson7183]

Motor spec name? Which motor is used in this build?

[@johncarold]

Hi Guys Finally a safe boat, or at least one that will work all day. LOL ! I still don't know who came up with 250gm but it's stupid, but what do I know, I'm just a quad pilot. I did build a 4in 6s quad and it was 182gm with a 6s 450ma lipo. But yours is a 5in. It does look like fun to fly.but I have never had one that a T-mount comes loose, my 2004 3000kv motors don't come loose on 6s Interesting ? I'm curious if it would happen again. On remote ID ? I don't know if it would work, I just don't know if anyone has the form factor to make it work. When the FAA Finally starts making good progress then I will register but not until then. I am still hoping for remote ID to fail. Thanks again for the video and your first time with a running boat ! Sorry Sean.

[@Swampmafia.rc.airboats]

Looks like a familiar Spot in Sebastian, FL 🤔

[@TheLostSquadron]

What a great idea, looks like it flies great. Does the SMO have a much narrower field of view than a regular action cam? I found that very disorienting. The lower quality Fat Shark DVR footage *felt* better, even if it didn't look as good.

[@CreativeStudios97]

FAA: "We want all drones to be under 250 grams so everyone is safe" Rotor Riot: "Neat, time to build a monster that makes you regret that decision"

[@Watchsportsonair]

Lol😂

[@kreativ_corals]

funny how famous B-rad's boat is now

[@BRadFPV]

Been boating to the bando since 2017. Approx 15 trips. Reach out on FB to join the next excursion.

[@kreativ_corals]

@@BRadFPV very sick. I'm grateful for the invite and will keep that in mind.

[@danarrib]

The SMO 4K footage looks a bit awkward... Doesn't it has a "Superview"-like mode?

[@oleksandrslashchev5966]

Which flight controller was used to build this setup?

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

CLRacing AIO it says

[@maiznieksmaize]

I wish sharkbyte had an option where i could have old pixels (with timeout) from older frame instead of white noise, it freaks me out like crazy. Even black pixels would look better. I know I should not drive on the edge, but that fallback screen looks like driving a car at 150mph and then going straight into concrete wall. I don't like it.

[@nistax2880]

email them

[@FerbGsta]

Pls make a video about the Eachine Wizard x220S

[@brianfreland9065]

How do I buy one of these?!

[@SlattFpv]

Good video 🖤

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Make a decased vista edition. Will still be under 250g with 650mah battery. Also should offer arm braces

[@ThrunRC]

Sounds like a great Quad. Well done guys. Happy flying _[]- )

[@MatthewRayFlicks]

Do they make those motors in a 3200kv? I feel like you don’t need that speed.

[@LetsFlyRC]

We are designing a 2900kv variant with different props that will feel more like the standard 5” freestyle quad.

[@MatthewRayFlicks]

That’s rad. Great work on this. I love the SMO 4K variant. Did the camera survive that crash?

[@LetsFlyRC]

@@MatthewRayFlicks Yes, everything worked after it dried out.

[@whoopsquad]

BubbyFPV⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️

[@StR8KiLLA_FPV]

B-rad and Danish take me to that bando!

[@BRadFPV]

Reach out on FB

[@flowleopard893]

It just seems a bit less stable, tad wobbly. Drew's flight did not look like LeDrib IMO. INCREDIBLE for a stealth quad IMO. Personally I would look for a different approach to flying it than normal usual freestyle ala 5"...

[@LetsFlyRC]

We have made some changes since this was filmed: different props, tuning the quad, and we have some new motors being built that should be available soon.

[@flowleopard893]

@@LetsFlyRC Beautiful work top to bottom, good to hear you are involved with development of motors also. TBH I really don't mind if sub 250 ends up being completely dissimilar from standard 5" builds at all. Quads keep evolving, and so does the way we fly them. I would have loved to spend a week or two with this build just to see how it influences style. DIFFERENT IS GOOOD!