Subaru Forester : Deep sand test with X-mode and TCS OFF!

[@CarQuestion]

Subaru Forester deep sand Test: No, we did not lower the tire pressure even if recommended. The tires are the OEM ones that you get on a Touring Forester. Yes, we could have gone faster, but that's not the objective of the test! In sand, the best way to do it is to engage X-mode and turn off the TCS. It's the equivalent of using the dual X-mode in the Deep Snow and mud mode. That CVT is holding the Forester power and momentum a lot! I hope that a Forester Wilderness version with another ratio help in this situation! But a good thing, it did not overheat or disconnect! #subaruforester #xmode

[@zoe7657]

You say that, BUT, You actually did go into it a lot faster in X MODE. Hard to compare when you are not consistent!

[@CarQuestion]

We keept the pedal on the metal

[@mtrsportsboy1]

The tires on your Forster Premium in the test video are not the same size or brand that come on Forester Sport, Limited or Touring that are equipped with 18" wheels.

[@peaceonearth8693]

@@CarQuestion Pathetically designed test. Momentum causes travel by physics. If a car with no engine had enough speed when it hit the sand, it would travel a long ways before slowing. The test should have been with a slow and constant speed to minimize the momentum that the car carried.

[@mrregik]

Let's do the same test with CR-V and RAV4.

[@milesmakale7129]

Its incredibly capable for a crossover, arguably the most capable crossover, no they're not jeeps but they also get amazing gas mileage and have superior comfort and handling on road, which is where even the biggest off-road enthusiast spends most of their time driving anyway.

[@peaceonearth8693]

The crossover part is not relevant at all. What we have here is a vehicle with improved ground clearance, that has two open differential axels (as opposed to a normal car's one). But also uses a computer to apply the brakes to the wheel on each axel that has the least traction.

[@milesmakale7129]

@@peaceonearth8693I think you many have missed my point. Im quite familiar with the vehicles specifications as I have one myself, my point is that for a vehicle that is not a bonafide off-roader, in this case a crossover, it does quite well off road while maintaining excellent control and comfort on pavement, something that a more substantial/capable off road vehicle lacks (:

[@peaceonearth8693]

@@milesmakale7129 Ok, the paint color doesn't matter. The designation crossover doesn't matter. In results, it's ok not great. This is like a goose. A goose can walk, swim and fly. But none of those things very gracefully. While a horse can do one thing, but when it runs it's an expert.

[@milesmakale7129]

@@peaceonearth8693 I think maybe you're getting a bit hung up on my use of the word crossover and missing the point. Crossover is the class of the vehicle, just like a sedan or truck. many crossovers that claim to be capable off-road are atrocious. There is quite a big difference between what the vehicle was designed for by the manufacturer and the vehicles paint color. the idea is that it is a great all around vehicle, yes its not going to tackle Moab like a jeep or hug the road like a BMW. One who wants a vehicle ONLY for off roading is definitely not going to buy a Subaru. but it gives one greater versatility, this is how they design and market the forester, Crosstrek, outback and its been wildly successful. (:

[@walterworek2493]

Watch TFL and see the real Test of Subaru. Very disappointing.

[@travmatologdima]

Hello from Siberia! Since October 2020, I am the proud owner of exactly the same Forester. Great car for all occasions!

[@kevtop351]

Congratulations! I'm also a proud owner of a 2019 forester.

[@Vile_412]

I love when my forester drives past lifted, suped up jeeps stuck in the snow come winter time.

[@rickbeyers]

Hi Mark. A friend of mine in the Philippines just bought a Subaru Forester last year and loves it. I checked it out on line and it's a very popular car for off-roading. A great go anywhere vehicle. Good to see you test this one in sand. Our place in near a beach. Thank you for providing this video to us. Now we are sure it's the car for us in the Philippines. God Bless. Stay Safe.

[@jkid4855]

Went to Oregon coast Sandy beach last week. Saw a stuck Xterra while I drive right past in my Forester.

[@guesswhooldtimer2358]

Air down to 20 psi… even 15. Reducing air pressure in sand is a must.

[@0HOON0]

Many of the drivetrain changes made to the Wilderness Edition need to be implemented to the entire lineup.

[@CarQuestion]

Can’t wait to see that cause we are going in Ontario this week to film the outback wilderness!

[@octurbojoe]

As long as they don't have the older TR690 found in the OB Wilderness. That transmission stalls out early and it's crawl ratio isn't as great. The TR580 found in the Forester [Wilderness], and Crosstrek doesn't stall as much because it's first gear ratio is much shorter.

[@maithem212]

Awesome real life performance in non-ideal terrain. Please put more cars on this sand hill!

[@Shalom65]

Does the Forester's CVT is strong enough for this offroad use? Sometimes we see people teaching us not to demand too much from CVT....

[@shanecooper5273]

Taking our 21 Forester Sport to the NC Outterbnks next month.

[@markprimiano5560]

Hey curious how did it go? I am taking a 2020 Forester Sport to NC Outerbanks this summer. Corolla beach.Beach.. about a 30 minute drive on the beach to the destination house. Should I at all be concerned, or should this go pretty easy?

[@Big_Country843]

@markprimiano5560 just seeing this. Wr didn't drove it on the beach. I was chicken shit to do it since we had just bought it. Lol. Funny thing is, we are heading that way Tuesday. And I am definitely going to take it on the beach. Then we are road tripping down to Fort Fisher and driving on that beach. Hopefully I don't get stuck. Finger's crossed. Did you ever take yours up the Outer Banks?

[@ДОРОГАМОЯЖИЗНЬ-ъ7ж]

Вот это ДА, Молодец! Всё супер!!!

[@cytrynowy_melon6604]

Nice capabilities, but did they have to make the rear lights so ugly?

[@mesomemore97]

Well done.

[@CarQuestion]

Thanks!!

[@warrenriley7716]

Thanks for the video I've been wondering how it will do in the sand.

[@Liam-uc9xk]

Thats impressive

[@johnchang3807]

This video showed what average drivers would do driving thru sand .

[@m-cw7er]

Amazing!

[@CarQuestion]

Impressive

[@MRED41468]

I feel that with mud tires it would go up that hill with ease.

[@cchcch7938]

Incredible car

[@GJJC13]

Very good video, so, for a newbie like me, what would the setting be for a Forester 2024 (I bought it yesterday!)

[@92roadie]

I'm surprised the transmission didn't overheat.

[@redhornet5785]

Oooooooomg. No progress in your head

[@peaceonearth8693]

Well, this isn't an automatic transmission which uses liquid as a transfer medium. And, there was not any changing of gears with a CVT. What this system does is create differences with a computer applying the brake to the wheel that is slipping on each axle. So, the show was more about a computer searching for how to apply brake pressure than the transmission doing anything.

[@bill6960]

@@peaceonearth8693 It still uses a torque converter, "which uses liquid as a transfer medium" and under those conditions builds heat. If they kept at it for a longer period of time, it would have built up significant heat, but then so would have a regular automatic. An auxiliary cooler is a recommendation for a CVT, just as it is with an automatic for off road/towing situations. The downside is adding a cooler will void Subaru's 100,000 mile CVT warranty.

[@emilarpi345]

@@peaceonearth8693 Yes. There are walking computers, and talking brains.

[@jaumeprimerelhipster]

@@bill6960 i thought they used a wet clutch instead of torque converter

[@neeum7578]

Subaru FTW!

[@Hussain-460]

Forester is a powerful car, but it needs a 6-cylinder engine and a transmission Either manual or automatic, but other than the CVT, the performance will be great

[@alexILMN]

I think it would perform much better in proper AT tires

[@CarQuestion]

We only test oem setup

[@keyner111]

Can you do a comparison between the Outlander and the Forester

[@Liris777]

Please show us this hill with Ford Bronco Sport to make a conclusion is Bronco Sport better than Forester or not...

[@peaceonearth8693]

I'll save you the trouble. The Bronco Sport will be much superior with its four-wheel drive. But, likely a heap of trouble mechanically and longevity wise.

[@alandaddydaycare200]

what PSI were you running with?

[@GJJC13]

For you beach-driving experts out there, are there any tires that would work significantly better for sand but still be OK for daily city/highway driving?

[@LeoZhou0424]

@@GJJC13 I use BFG KO2 AT Tyres. They're heavier than factory road tyres and a little bit noisy you need to get used to. But they do make your sand driving way much better

[@roberto5544]

Rate the driver not the car. Foresters are very capable - with the right driver.

[@Honestandtruth007]

WOW 😨👍. Great job Subaru... Yeaaaahaaaasa

[@fullimportacion]

hello, one question, 2.0cc or 2.5cc??? thanks

[@dannyboy1984]

Pauvre cvt a cause du 2.5 je serais curieux de voir le meme exercice avec le nouveau Outback wilderness

[@peaceonearth8693]

The part where the vehicle has momentum is meaningless. It's not the car that is climbing at that time, it's the physics.

[@fernandoalcayaga8341]

20 less psi and no problem to avoid the big mistake in this video. 😮

[@CarQuestion]

it's a traction AWD test, not an off road ride. there is no mistake

[@johnstrand2247]

Air down! That Subaru will rule the sand if you know how to drive on it.

[@dayvancowboy]

Awesome video! I hope you make more at this spot, as the sand plus the added challenge of the steep hill makes it super informative about the capabilities of the all wheel drive systems. Personally I would like to see the Mazda CX-5/CX-30 because I have heard their all wheel drive system is reviewed quite well and no CVT (plus I'm biased because I drive one and like to do light off roading)! Do you have any plans to test other vehicles here?

[@hambanya6173]

Oh wow

[@abaddonprvni3750]

Subaru to je spolehlivost

[@longthanly7061]

👍👍👍

[@jenGD3]

We need more of this of other car pls

[@MrApplesaucestuff]

did you guys have to replace the CVT after this?

[@SubieandFriends]

It’s a demo, so why would they replace it? Besides I’ve been off-roading my 2018 Outback a whole bunch and 110k miles later it’s still going strong!!!

[@MrApplesaucestuff]

@@SubieandFriends good to hear

[@zeezox9045]

مع تخفيف ضغط الاطار ستتمكن من الاجتياز بسهوله اكثر

[@СамСвой-п5в]

У меня была сиарви, аутлендер, форестер, форестер танк, а те две пенсионерки не едут, вообще.

[@don.timeless4993]

As a med size SUV powerful AWD lover, forester is perfect except the exterior design 😓

[@emilnordstrom9531]

Put in the 2.5l engine....

[@ZOV130]

В конце видно как сцепление у муфты спалил дым пошёл из под днища

[@TheTruthposter]

Looks like x-mode goes faster lol

[@ОлегКорниенко-ш2й]

Deep sand??? What do you smoking?

[@auferstanden526]

Ja da können die Weichgespülten SUV nicht Hochfahren.😁👍

[@PincheBrew]

"Deep sand" 😄😄

[@CarQuestion]

yep, there is packed sand, deep sand, soft sand... i presume you want us to burry it until there tires are deep inside the sand?

[@LukeAMcDowell]

Show me where you drive that is worse than this.

[@Booyakashi7]

Hyundai, Mazda, Kia also can do this

[@CarQuestion]

No they can’t all do that this slowly

[@Booyakashi7]

@@CarQuestionMaybe it's enough to advertise Subaru, not the best cars, constructive and reliable. And the drive is not so good, I saw how it hung on a steep diagonal on comparative tests.

[@CarQuestion]

What are you exactly saying for the advertise part ? I know because our channel has many example of awd disconnect in sand so…

[@emilarpi345]

@@Booyakashi7 Enjoy those three brands then. I do not see many (if any) of those doing dune bashing routinely. And I mean in reality, not videos. What people don't realize is that stock Subarus are tested and proofed to work from - 50 to + 50 Celsius in harsh conditions on day to day basis, not one time 5 minute demo, and still be good to do circles around other cars on road.

[@jaguar5067]

BIG Fail cvt Subaru!!! Only AT transmission & Turbo! Welcome in Russia!

[@spol1622]

Engine oil consumption is the most serious problem here...

[@blueryxfalls7949]

cooked CVT now your warranty is void lmao

[@clou1969]

Underpowered Subaru… only good for light off-roading. This thing has no POWer.

[@subbielover9374]

Nice try :) I'm 100% sure, you would be very suprised with the results, if they make the same sand test with the other cars (in this category). Including the "overpowered" ones...

[@carllovullo6602]

@@subbielover9374 I'm sorry but the Ford Bronco Sport Badlands is destroying this thing

[@subbielover9374]

@@carllovullo6602 So ? It's a different AWD/4WD solution. It's not the same category, Bronco is great car, built as the offroad vehicle. You could also say the Forester is much more comfortable onroad while still decent offroad.

[@carllovullo6602]

@@subbielover9374 I'm talking about the Bronco Sport not the Bronco its 2 different things... the sport has a superior awd system than Subaru and the Bronco Sport is direct competiton with the Forester

[@jkid4855]

@@carllovullo6602 you talk like a 10 years old fanboy 😂

[@Rustic_Farmer]

They are all pretty much the same this segment . Just need AT tyres and lower the pressure it would get up that sand no problem. Doing a test like this is only putting wear and tear on the gearbox. It’s unfortunate that they all use cvt, dvt etc. Pity the next owner of this car.