subhumans-from the cradle to the grave

[@adie.b3601]

No punk song will ever beat this classic played it for years its a masterpiece

[@tanilorn]

I learnt more from punk bands than i did school. And was very happy to find a copy of this lp in the record shop recently . So good to have it again.

[@seanlynch6541]

@@tanilorn Amen

[@ronprice1819]

Really is one of the best there ever was. I used to play this track for friends of mine who were not familiar with punk rock. Ones that were more into hippie type bands and culture some years back. They all loved it. Usually on road trips to this or that. When everyone was properly tuned up. And the whole packed full car or van would be silent with heads slowly nodding. Always will remember the power of it all.

[@skitzolorenzo549]

👏🏽

[@h0ldz]

No song regardless of genre….ever! 😆

[@TheTCBandage]

A song that's almost 17 minutes long and it's not boring for even a second.

[@aperitivoferoce2271]

just one 14:51 14:52

[@shadvaira3231]

Truly fantastic message. “The government will rule your mind and your mind will rule your heart”……that sums it up right there.

[@nodiggity9472]

Yeah, not bad for a bunch of middle class, West country white boys.

[@iandarragh6437]

ONLY IF YOU LET THEM DISCHARGE NAILED IT DECONTROL WE HAVE BEEN SHITE ON FAR TOO LONG NO MORE NO WAY WE ARE PUT ON THIS EARTH EQUAL WHAT WE HAVE WE WILL NOT TAKE IT WITH US SOME PEOPLE THINK DIFFERENT FACE REALITY ☠👍🏻☠🙃☠😜☠

[@justsomerando718]

this is the stairway of anarcho punk

[@wdwoodcock67]

The greatest song ever written... The total "free bird" of punk

[@treeswillturntosoil]

YES

[@buildingracingvideos4714]

In the garden of eden of punk

[@bimmerheadzept915]

MY FAVORITE PUNK BAND SINCE 1991....MAJOR INFLUENCE.....SUBS KICK MAJOR ASS...LYRICS ARE GENIUS, THEY STILL HOLD UP TO THIS DAY 2019.....SUBS FOREVER

[@h0ldz]

heard this around 85, absolute genius! still rings true now

[@markwoodland2874]

I live my life by the punk ethics portrayed in this song...it helped shape my personality,attitude & outlook on life into what it has been for 40 years

[@joesayer7803]

Classic punk rock at its finest!

[@ReplicantSeven]

This set the bar for all punk......and nobody ever ever hit it again. It really doesn't get any better than this. This right here is the high water mark.

[@the_craptain]

meet the decline

[@sandiahead]

Lol decline is garbage

[@the_craptain]

@@sandiahead pretzel boy

[@secretsoftware]

​@@the_craptaincan't really compare nofx to sub hum ans. This is a masterpiece, the decline is a mediocre 90s skate anthem.

[@the_craptain]

​@@secretsoftware what you just said makes absolutely zero sense. the decline is very obviously out of your realm of understanding.

[@rukafukapuk]

"You may think you don't need teaching but you'll need it when you're old" Brilliant.

[@marcusp3840]

i saw these guys live in '02... they played the title track from this album start to finish... and NAILED it... one of the best punk shows i ever saw

[@onulf]

+Marcus P Saw them do it in 2012 in Blackpool, and felt truly privileged.

[@greentroll9326]

was only this track on on the album ceptside b I have this lol

[@your_belief_vs_everything]

I saw them in 99' in Denver, best show I've ever seen hands down.

[@NeoN-PeoN]

There is no more honest a genre of music than Punk. It really shouldn't ever die. But if it does, I think, that that would be a great loss.

[@JFardoulis]

almost forgotten how damn good this song is

[@Soundeagle3456]

The ability to connect with your audience in that level is chilling, and without a doubt changed the minds of those who first heard it.

[@mattcalza4790]

When they call musicians "artists" on corporate media it sounds clit-Che. But this song is a work of art, and very beautiful.

[@vermilliongecko]

Cliche, not clit-che!

[@michaelchose215]

Best Punk band. PERIOD

[@davej1522]

I remember jamming these guys on my Walkman and having all their stuff on cassette. Crazy good

[@chicago_rocker23]

The last show I saw them play in Phoenix at the rebel room aka Mason jar I requested this one. Fully knowing they wouldnt belt out a 17 minute song, shortly after another fan at the show said: cradle! At least I wasnt the only one dreaming.

[@matthiasjohnathanpashkowic1352]

My first punk record I bought from a hole in the wall store and I played it over and over again

[@goldenagenut]

A true punk masterpiece lp. Love it!

[@sickjuiceshorts]

In my top 3 of all time punk songs

[@AaronMittelmeier]

Every fucking groove of vinyl on this record was better than the last.

[@stephenm8725]

Who's still listening to this in 2018? We need this song more than ever!

[@sludge.eater6]

20 muthafuckin 20

[@MelanieBranagan]

2021

[@jinzo-papa3058]

2022!

[@ungovernable1431]

2022 been listening to this for 31 years, old git...

[@stephenm8725]

@@ungovernable1431 rock on

[@markgonzales4127]

Still have it on vinyl..... remember that ?

[@areilly2496]

Still have mine 👍

[@slipperypilchard70]

Vinyls mate. ☺️

[@rockrecords222s]

Écouter ce chef-d’œuvre en pleine montée de champignons magique! Malade!!! Cheers from Arvida,Québec!

[@larrylechat3358]

Arvida? Ahah j'aurais plus cru ça de Jonq 😝

[@brianhartford2859]

"And why did you not warn us?" Said the people to the prophet...

[@sanctionthis]

one of the best punk sides to an album ever heard , its about our life

[@maddakker]

we thrashed this album back in the day its fucken awesome

[@user-ur1oj6bw8u]

Saw them in 1985 and they sang this song and it was awesome

[@Brytons_Thoughts]

Fun fact: If this wasn't made, The Decline probably wouldn't have even thought of by NOFX.

[@elizabethmccormack793]

yea i kinda thought it was funny that nofx only did the decline because subhumans did cradle to the grave because if the subhumans did a 17 min song its ok and could still be punk but thats the opposite of what punk is. it would've been more punk to be like we made a 20 min song because we wanted to and didnt care if some people didnt consider it punk. but hey 2 great songs that show punk could be prog inspired 20 minutes and show amazing musicianship

[@jameslong9921]

@@elizabethmccormack793 Exactly when 2m30s became a standard length for punk songs it sort of ceases to be punk because your just a slave to an idea then, conformity should be the enemy not brilliant tracks like this that opened up new possibilities.

[@jamesharris291]

saw these guys at the crocodile, if you think about it these guys released there first album in 1980 or 81, over 30 years ago, and still kick ass!!

[@adrianwhittingham3526]

Relivant today probably more so who's making a statement today? Not including ratm

[@anaflynn1075]

Fuck yeah! Punks not dead!

[@jonnuccle1858]

Greatest Rock n Roll band of all time

[@SuperPandora78]

This is like the Freebird of punk rock.

[@jonjones5152]

Haha Yeah it really is.

[@samhain6953]

SuperPandora78 exactly..

[@chicobaki]

RED DEATH no doubt

[@gavinchapman1138]

One powerful track ✌️

[@tpiz2448]

First time I herd this it was my first acid trip in the early 90s. Very memorable experience...till this day! Fuck yeah!!!

[@deansidoti3205]

What a headfuck that must have been

[@ungovernable1431]

Hell yeah, Subhumans on acid. My first trip on LSD was 1990 night before I took my driving test and I passed...Lol.

[@theredrooms2079]

gotta get this album

[@mikerichardson7689]

from 12:19 this is pure punk eargasm! the album cover is hauntingly class! a masterpiece in my opinion. this is up there with the best of anarcho punk!

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

I'm 7 years too late, but you would love King Crimson's 'Red'.

[@DrLeePercussion]

I met Dick Lucas b4 and he is super cool.

[@chicago_rocker23]

This man speaks the truth, dick Lucas is a wonderful person to meet!

[@bloxelectrix]

Still awesomwe in 2016..... Ha !

[@jonjones5152]

+Vincent 79 Oooh I don't know bout that. Joint best with half their stuff. Specially 29:29.

[@sootyjared4208]

Blox Electrix And sadly relevant.

[@aescel3402]

Still awesome 2019...happy summer solstice!

[@bloxelectrix]

Still awesomwe in 2015..... Ha !

[@jimgreene951]

perfection ✊

[@NachtSchreck13]

greatest anarcho punk band of all time

[@Manic-bc1hf]

yup!

[@wdwoodcock67]

Relevant in 2021

[@01PGEE]

Legends . because this and, all their ep's

[@stuffypunk1779]

purely amazing

[@DazzyMorgan]

best album i ever bought fucking loves it

[@hhewson66]

Still the best ,,totally shit hot…don’t ever stop writing and playing

[@craigvarey9230]

Fucking hell this dunt half tek mi back! Glorious! Absolutely love the reggae influence and the reverb gives it an urgency that is 100% proof Punk! (Accept no substitutes!)

[@eamonwright7488]

2112 of Subhumans catalogue.

[@am6589]

Now more than ever!!!

[@markwoodland2874]

I grew up in the same town,Warminster..Wiltshire where Subhumans come from and my older brother was in the same year at the school everyone who wasn't a toffee nosed twat went to in the town..Kingdown comprehensive....😄😄😄😄🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@nodiggity9472]

Yeah yeah, to the rest of Wiltshire, Kingdown were *all* toffee nosed twats. 😆

[@davehoward22]

Not far from stonehenge..lot of anarcho punk bands are from the south west

[@markwoodland6226]

Best punk song ever sums up everything that's wrong with society

[@ericmathieu4540]

Merci a Annie Roy de m'avoir fait connaitre cet album a 15 ans.

[@patthewoodboy]

this is punk meets the concept album .. reminds me of Moody blues :-)

[@DavidMorley]

An amazing record.

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

9:30 Genius sequence

[@hayleymarshall2595]

I remember when I was a kid I would overdose on k2 about every day, foaming at the mouth and spasming. I would crawl across the room and turn on this album, or maybe punk terrorist anthology vol 1. I made myself listen until it was I was there, tripping on into dark places, dieing time and time again in other people's lives in these super vivid and lucid hallucinations/ delusions because I thought it was more of an experience than butterflies and roses. Believe it or not that's how the subhumans and nausea made me who I am today.

[@jonjones5152]

Wow that's fucking hardcore. Please tell me you came out the other end of that dark tunnel and found ganja. That spice is beyond tricky. I did that sorta thing with Sub's and False prophets etc , but no way with Nausea... fuck that 😲😱😨😰 😂.

[@ronprice1819]

Not the only one who went on journeys with it, to it, amongst it... Great times. Really it was music like the subhumans and touring with bands I was friends with. Having the strength it all helped me find within myself saved my life. It's sad that such a wonderful experience was known intimently by so few. But such is such.

[@ppp-zt9hf]

Still awesomwe in 2017..... Ha !

[@darrellnoorda3698]

good ol days

[@henrysur2763]

Animals don't only kill for food. They also kill for power just like we do. Its part our nature. It will be very hard to change that.

[@jonjones5152]

Bit of a sweeping generalization. And it's not the same power. They ain't looking for world domination.

[@jamesloft8378]

Best song ever. Real life..... True

[@mrdirachiel]

It's basically an album in one song.

[@inmydarkesthour2278]

Amazing song but really depressing at the same time

[@JMac90_]

Alessandra Bozzelli Welcome to reality.

[@frankguillory6888]

Some honest punk here!

[@mrcs6686]

Epic

[@alblondie]

In the mid 1980s I was working with a guy who's job was security fences & he got a contract off Thatchers Tory government to have all TA bases capable of holding weapons & equipment for suppression of British people if they were to rise up, I found this by reading his contract( it was covered by official secrets act) that he left in the van, so I sprayed the words of this song from "why don't you join the army be a man & not a fool" till the end in yellow line paint & then walked off & never went back as those weapons would used on me & those like me

[@ELGROOVER]

Quite an exceptional piece. Something about the structure... prog/punk/art.... I hear the strangs, the hogs, gang of four, yes ;-j

[@craigbrown2859]

You never hear much about them but I read a recent interview by josh homme from queens of the stone age and he totally admitted being influenced by the subhumans. To me that basically means the screaming trees, nirvana and the foo fighters must have at some point heard this. That makes me feel a lot more connected than trying to understand x factor type musicians and music that nowadays just seems so hell bent on nostalgia. I love motown but everyone seems to be trying to replicate it. It can be good cos I love Adele but jesus come on.

[@rockrecords222s]

Craig Brown I think i´ve read somewhere Dave Grohl liked them...

[@terryhalligan1066]

funny you should say that about nirvana i watched a interview meany years and Dave from foo said he used to lisen to subhumans

[@rockrecords222s]

terry Halligan WTF???

[@Anarchidi]

Are you sure he meant these Subhumans and not the Canadian band?

[@Soundeagle3456]

Cobain grew up on punk, he had Black Flag flyers on his attic wall.

[@chrissmith847]

Still relevant Awsome

[@michaelmisanthrope]

I like this mode of communication; I like the Beatlesque musical shifts; maybe I have listened to too much loud music but I can not understand the lyrics. I want to know what they are saying. It's important to me. The bits I get seem to be clever and important. They seem to have social relevance. Great piece of music. Thanks to Oicroppa.

[@ronprice1819]

Huh? For serious? This is some of the most clear, pronounced vocals in punk rock history. Maybe it's your phones speakers or whatever you are listening with. Try headphones. This song becomes clear as a bell and is a whole nother level.

[@michaelmisanthrope]

You are fortunate to be able to hear the vocals as well as you do. 2 years later I still have the same problem. The first cut is most difficult for me. The rest is fairly clear. It's a good band. I a m a musician I have sensitive ears. Olfatorily speaking. my ears are like a cat or dog.s nose--They hear so much at once that cacaphony can ensue. ....so yeah! for serious! I have different hearing ability than you. Thank you for your comment.

[@sukottora]

Jesus, I've not listened to this for over 35 years... what the hell happened? It's like I fell asleep in the back of a van and woke up in the future.

[@ronprice1819]

HA! I'm with ya brother. Crazy feeling right? It would be just like that too. Accept when ya look around. All ur mates disappeared... Shit. Guess it's time to crawl up front and grab the wheel... Go get some gas, Ale, and pull out the crumpled up Book yer own fuckin Life, from under the seat. Lol

[@nodiggity9472]

You fell asleep in the back of a van and woke up in the future. Probably in a layby near the Yarnbrook roundabout.

[@sukottora]

@@nodiggity9472 Ha! There or there about!

[@Birb-LadyUvU]

Say what you will, best punk band ever.

[@ronprice1819]

Anyone who really digs this should check out citizen fish as well. It's got a different vibe but same lyrics. Same soul ( same singer, Dick Lucas). And alot of citizen fish was music I could similarly space out to.

[@deansidoti3205]

and Culture Shock.

[@angelaburrow8114]

Citizen Fish are more upbeat though, similar themes but with a bit of optimism too. Lucas is a punk poet in my eyes. (Edit:typo, added a h to the word though)

[@hilleryevans9962]

Righty right!!!!

[@aperitivoferoce2271]

your fucking god! what a beautiful song and what a beautiful lyric.(A)

[@JamesHarris-fh5bz]

I agree

[@chrissmith847]

Awsome punk at its best

[@wdwoodcock67]

Minus the guitar lead solo

[@stevechambers550]

classic

[@carlblyth8479]

Who remembers punk... I know I do...

[@nodiggity9472]

ok boomer

[@Nomammosway]

The world is going to shit and they knew it... Much love to the prophets..

[@Takealiltripnsee]

Punk Rock Floyd

[@billymullins1357]

I think everyone needs to listen to this song in the U.S.A.

[@TheJabcon]

bleibt. Unbelievable, it will burn. from the cradle. this cradle burns.

[@jonjones5152]

Ey up ...Hey Tilz😉

[@couchslouch]

one of my all time favs. 4 thumbs down WTF! really?

[@jonjones5152]

Good Charlotte mongs.

[@MARKEDONE47_]

All the thumbs down are state loving bootlickers

[@sludge.eater6]

most people just say the government sucks and shit like that but subhumans just goes against the way humans are raised and function 😂🤘

[@dgester]

10:35

[@ChrisFitchtermsofservice]

no way to die on the sly, best to ply till tearful decry, god not yet to die, humans still aim to via

[@davidcdebaca6305]

Punk rock...

[@rogerminter3599]

Punk's not dead.

[@nodiggity9472]

Then why did we bury it?

[@iandarragh6437]

@@nodiggity9472 WHERE ?

[@nodiggity9472]

@@iandarragh6437 Just outside Trowbridge Civic Hall.

[@dudeok5978]

Good lord, how did I miss this song until now? It's fucking proto-post metal.

[@VincentRE79]

+Dude OK This was early 1980's UK Anarcho Punk.

[@dudeok5978]

I know. What I'm saying is you can hear how it influences and predates the sound of post-metal.

[@VincentRE79]

+Dude OK What was Post Metal??

[@dudeok5978]

Post metal is a genre of heavy metal that is heavily atmospheric, has long, complex song structures, unconventional lyrics and aesthetics -etc. Prob the most well known and best example would be the band Neurosis, who started in the early 90's and spawned a bunch of copy cat bands who went on to create that label "Post-metal".

[@dudeok5978]

I should add that Neurosis was heavily influenced by the anarcho-punk scene in England.

[@alanunmack7805]

Longest punk song ever 🙂

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

It's up there for sure, but NOFX - 'The Decline' and Crass - 'Taking Sides' are longer.

[@rosetiger7268]

A 16 minute punk rock song :)

[@keithlewis1172]

punk at its best

[@arfpunkyfuk]

is this not blur?

[@chrissmith847]

And Susan is even better

[@nodiggity9472]

Nah.

[@markwoodland6226]

Thank fuck I've never been the systems slave

[@maxpower9340]

Fuck me, this is great