Submission Before Position? | Jiu-Jitsu Rule Breakers Inside The Guard

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The maxim in Jiu-Jitsu is typically "Position Before Submission" which is generally the best advice. However, when you understand the rules well enough, sometimes you can break them with successful results. In this video, I show about 4 exceptions to this rule in the form of submissions that work from inside the opponent's guard. I hope you like these, and be sure to let me know in the comments what other subs from inside the guard or other bad positions you know of and like.
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[@nikmorales8624]

That skirt loop choke is sneaky and vicious! Definitely gonna put that in my game

[@edmondlau511]

Thank you. I needed this. I'm always caught in bad positions it seems.

[@Thelilbone]

"Whenever you understand the rules well enough, you can break the rules"

[@samkeith7886]

Can't believe my trainer has actually rolled with you! Such a small world...

[@antonioarcano7989]

I love this guy, he always doing stuff nobody else does. I mean why can we attack from there? They are always telling me to gain better position, but when I attack like this they get very surprised and kind of panic.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

I appreciate that greatly! And I know what you mean. People get a little dogmatic about position before submission. I think it’s a good idea to have the superior position established for control before hunting submissions most the time, but there definitely are exceptions.

[@dolphinkng]

Definitely using the ezikiel choke it’s crazy sneaky

[@Saucyboy1776]

Used this in a tournament almost tapped he guy but the match ended and I lost 😢 lol

[@oldrango883]

It’s a great technique and I can tell you from personal experience of receiving one, my throat was sore for days 😂.

[@vikingbjj7]

Absolutely buddy! Often times a submission is there even when we dont have a dominant position. Good stuff as always.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Thanks brother. I totally agree. I’ve seen people get caught with these that totally shouldn’t have gotten caught.

[@jkarpov3634]

That last one looks awesome, gonna try it at open mat

[@gallolocoparisien]

Would never have thought of the last one... great video!

[@MrThree15]

From 1 Eli to another Eli. I love all your amazing content!

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Thanks Eli!

[@coolman54061]

it’s scary knowing that when rolling with Eli no matter what position u have him in you still aren’t safe

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

I wish more people thought that way 🤣

[@mrrob5851]

@@KnightJiuJitsu even as a white belt I try to make all other belts feel the same way. As Eli has said. Your mind has to be on ju jitsu, if your thinking anything else it won’t end well for you. Paraphrased of course. And don’t think a white belt can’t make a blue belt feel like he’s in danger. It’s quite possible.

[@artemthetrain14]

@@mrrob5851 heck ya it's possible. Theres no universal belt standards. I'm a new blue..better believe there are plenty of whites who would work me :)

[@mrrob5851]

@@artemthetrain14 I know it’s possible. But thanks for agreeing with me. I love human chess. Even if the odds are against me. My training partners always know it will be fun or heavy for them.

[@artemthetrain14]

@@mrrob5851 jk dude you couldn't even touch this! ;)

[@ademirjunior3090]

Amazing video as always! My favorite one was the last one

[@Twobarpsi]

Some very unique techniques here!!🥋

[@CraigLong45]

This skirt choke works - tried it the other day and landed it - even to my weak side I pulled it off

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

It’s crazy right?! Learned that from Rodrigo Gracie years ago and still one of the weirdest and coolest chokes.

[@Houssem0880]

Excellent content as usual

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Much appreciated

[@mrrob5851]

Oh so nice. Like that skirt choke. Can’t wait to try that. Thanks Eli.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Let me know what you think once you do!

[@mrrob5851]

@@KnightJiuJitsu I used the first part of feeding the skirt just never the second part of spinning. But I have fed the skirt to my opposite hand and then the free hand reach around the neck and grab lapel of the skirt and then drive both fists to the ground. I be done that a few times. It initially you have need to pull the skirt out and get all the slack out before they buck you over. What’s your thoughts on lapel Ezekiel????

[@nicholaschadwick7662]

@@mrrob5851 Was just thinking of using this version.

[@dougprishpreed919]

"Learn the rules like a pro so you can break them like an artist"

[@ctv186]

Gotta try #4 one day, especially with my leg strength.

[@alloallo5418]

Very good 💪 no gi chouk from guard pleas! Крутое видео! Спасибо за технику

[@spiritualjj7530]

When I walked into a jiu jitsu dojo this technique was what i used to choke out 2 people even though i had a very rough understanding. One was a 14 year old grey belt. (i was 16).

[@JamezAdam]

Great Tutorial!

[@jackfl3]

I like the last one

[@hubriswonk]

For some reason older guys love that standing punch choke........I most always balloon them flat on their back with me mounted.

[@DoctorYianni]

Love the boston crab one but I can’t help thinking the guys here @ Marcelo Garcia’s in the city will easily take my back.

[@adilbekramadan2038]

Super video 🖒👍👌 and nice kimono 🖒

[@erickeelisangela5139]

Nice!!!! I'm from BRAZIL

[@1smg346]

The best bjj channel on KZbin can you teach us how to do a neck crank choke please?

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

I’ve got a few of them in other videos, but not a whole video dedicated to cranks. Might make a great standalone topic!

[@joarkarlsen9893]

Would the last one be legal at white belt? Is it ankle lock or does it put pressure on the knee?

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

It’s a straight foot lock so it is legal.

[@MatthewRadniecki]

With the punch choke…. Seems it would be better for opening guard than submitting…. As long as you are expecting and ready for the triangle/arm lock attempt inevitably coming

[@danniragu7194]

I luv them use them all time os

[@samuel-JF1981]

2:28, punch choke or "amassa pão" 😉

[@sameersalam139]

Nice 👍🙂

[@benjamingreen4694]

Lol someone tried the Ezekiel on me in a comp and I countered with an easy triangle 🔺️ 😅

[@twhit4321]

In your opinion, can us guys in our mid 50's pursue this? Honestly, can we look anything other than ridiculous starting something like this at our age? Thank you for taking my question.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Absolutely. I have quite a few friends that train in their 50s and 60s and didn’t start until recently. All of it can be modified to everyone’s ability.

[@twhit4321]

@@KnightJiuJitsu Fantastic! Thank You for responding.

[@graciescottsdale]

Finding the right training partners is critical.

[@carloszambrano1997]

Great thx !

[@tededo]

Need help. 51 long time seasoned grizzled grappler student. I do a plethora of subs inside the guard its huge. I know my instructor hold me accountable as he tells me you cant do subs within the guard, quit that. The problem is: I've doe it since years till its one of my Agame and I catch so many guys with those inside guard subs, I become even comfortable, their guard are outstandingly hard to open. So rather than telling them they should not allow me to sub them, I lose patience and simply submit them in a gentle way. Tell me what you think. Please.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

My feeling about that is this: you can absolutely sub someone from inside their guard. The reason instructors say not to do this is because that You need to recognize the positional hierarchy so you don’t get yourself in trouble positionally by trying subs from “bad positions” and also because subs from inside someone’s guard typically rely on more size and strength. Those are both good reasons, but it doesn’t mean that those types of submissions should never be done.

[@jillurmalik1]

I Nd help with getting into rubber guard then bringing my foot Over btw I do BJJ but not tenth planet as well as my dad and we trying to learn rubber guard at home

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

I recommend watching Brandon Mccaghren for the best rubber guard details

[@jillurmalik1]

@@KnightJiuJitsu I’ll check him out

[@tribalman9668]

Since you want to make some people upset and loose some friends you should ad the neck crank to these options... lol

[@Jeremiah3-22]

If I get a guy to roll to his stomach while I have his legs, I'm doing a full on wwf boston crab.. fuck it!! 👍

[@charlotte-mg9wj]

haha! the auto-subtitles say Ghee instead of GI, and Now I've got this image in my head of someone passing guard using clarified butter...

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bullfrogjay4383]

Gonna drill these fo sho !!

[@germannieto4501]

Skirt choke seems like it should be illegal lol

[@obliqueapplications8881]

@6:00, Foot LOCKER

[@jameschristopher3405]

Ssssiiiiccckkk

[@lohascha462]

The choke in 3 mins sometimes out you in dangerous position. Your opponent can make a closed guard armbar to submit you

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

These all put you in a dangerous position. I try to make that disclaimer multiple times in this video

[@lohascha462]

@@KnightJiuJitsu oss🙏🙏 I am having a quick look of your new video before sleeping, and didn't put the sounds on that's why😂😂 Apologize for that

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

No worries at all 😊

[@jillurmalik1]

Dude

[@btd1231ify]

🏳️😍

[@donsmith8300]

I never liked the gi

[@CaleCoast]

If someone tries choking me in my guard, I'm squeezing their ribs with my entire core strength. It works any time someone is leaning over like that.

[@CaleCoast]

If Eli tried choking me in my guard, I would probably tap and have enough time left in the round to regret squeezing his ribs with my entire core strength. 😨😆

[@g496r500t]

So you basically hide behind a weak technique... nice

[@CaleCoast]

Choking someone while inside their guard is weak technique my guy.