[SUBS]Theory Thursday: Changes Caused - BTS WINGS Short Films Theory/Explanation

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Justt Ally

Justt Ally

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@nayaiscute6651
@nayaiscute6651 8 жыл бұрын
Butterfly effect... hence the name Wings.
@mayagibson2378
@mayagibson2378 8 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD WHY DIDNT I SEE THAT
@thecoolchannel2003
@thecoolchannel2003 8 жыл бұрын
OMANHOLYSHT
@jiminals3331
@jiminals3331 8 жыл бұрын
YOOOOO DUDE NICE
@lucyparra2119
@lucyparra2119 8 жыл бұрын
naya iscute BRUH EVERYTHING BE BLOWEN MA MIND HERE WTF
@kanna3295
@kanna3295 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of people speculate that Jin sees the evil in V. My theory say Jin is Demian and V is Sinclair (the MC in Demian). At the end of the novel, Demian kisses Sinclair as a symbol of Sinclair finally being free and independent. Jin represented Demian, an all knowing character. J-Hope represent Demian's mother Frud Eva (his painting says EVA on the bottom). I just thought it was an interesting connection. I read Demian's Sparknotes and realized so many connections between Wings and Demian. The bird in Wings is the Sparrow Hawk, a bird that appears in Demian too. Neitzche's ideology also influenced Demian and appeared in Blood Sweat Tears: One must have chaos within to give birth to a dancing star. In short, Wings is stepping out of youth through a very tedious process and finding oneself.
@lexii5420
@lexii5420 7 жыл бұрын
idk what's more stressing life or bts' album theories.
@kylerichardson1842
@kylerichardson1842 6 жыл бұрын
god same
@mareammerza9948
@mareammerza9948 6 жыл бұрын
Im Sad I know right??
@laurelthefloral7180
@laurelthefloral7180 6 жыл бұрын
Me rn
@alienfromtaetaeplanet1513
@alienfromtaetaeplanet1513 5 жыл бұрын
Both😑
@Remoncakeeyyy
@Remoncakeeyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly like god 😂😂😂
@cielobot
@cielobot 8 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting . Now someone help my brain .
@aileenchristievillarojo7663
@aileenchristievillarojo7663 8 жыл бұрын
my head hurts! ugh.. but I take it to mean that I'm stretching my brain 'muscles'lol
@Hana-gd1vr
@Hana-gd1vr 8 жыл бұрын
English isn't My first language, it's so hard T^T
@aliseaofink8713
@aliseaofink8713 8 жыл бұрын
yeah i know... i'm italian
@armyforlifeczesc5925
@armyforlifeczesc5925 8 жыл бұрын
yes... im german soo its hard for me too
@carlyharmon2979
@carlyharmon2979 7 жыл бұрын
AHAHAH !! I'm French and someone made a traduction !! Just perfect !! XD !!
@rorosung1026
@rorosung1026 8 жыл бұрын
If you didn't read Demian you'll probably found this theory more logic but once you'll read the first chapter of the book you won't be able to believe any other theory but that of Jin being the only one alive and everyone else is just representing his alter ego
@SuShuan
@SuShuan 8 жыл бұрын
So that's why I actually can't believe this theory lol (I read Demian last week)
@bubbly699
@bubbly699 8 жыл бұрын
I read Demian and I like Ally's theory better because it makes more sense to me, I'm pretty sure Ally has read it too!
@whalienmy9909
@whalienmy9909 8 жыл бұрын
where can i read it ?
@whalienmy9909
@whalienmy9909 8 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks a lot ! 🙆😘
@bubbly699
@bubbly699 8 жыл бұрын
No problem! ^_^
@BTSARMYJIMIN13
@BTSARMYJIMIN13 7 жыл бұрын
wow...bts and their team is *artistically insane*. I only dream of this kind of this kind of creativity that would take me years to wrap my head around.
@cinnahoney1881
@cinnahoney1881 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe Jin's short film was him in the afterlife, but things start to go wonky (scratches on the door, everything going wibby wobbly, his reflection having a ripple) because the boys are trying to bring him back. He looks around because he can hear them crying out for him and is trying to find them. They succeeded because he left the room and saw the bird painting(their way of communicating or reaching out to him?). He walked down the hallway into the light, thus returning to life and the boys. Edit: Rapmon takes about the bird(Jin) flying to God, but Jin sings about not being able to fly. Since the boys tried and succeeded in bringing him back to life, Jin could no longer fly and that is why he sang about that.
@prm836
@prm836 8 жыл бұрын
Jin is alive lol Pls watch minategi's BTS Wings theory
@Luerye
@Luerye 7 жыл бұрын
+prm its called a theory... Basically based on what he/she believed and he/she researched. So we really cant say if Jin is really the only one dead or Jin is the only one alive.
@ektasharya
@ektasharya 3 жыл бұрын
Uff I'm so stressed... can't find a shore to solve this puzzle
@alexbob3927
@alexbob3927 8 жыл бұрын
Your theory is literally the only theory that explains the mental patients. Like literally no one else has done this. Everyone has basically ignored this aspect for some reason??? You're amazing.
@cricket98741
@cricket98741 8 жыл бұрын
Jin's lyrics talks about him not being able to fly, which can be seen as two differnt things. Like you said, it can mean that he can't die, but it can also mean he can't stay. Flying is mostly used as a metaphor for being free, so when he says stuff like 'i can't fly' it could be seen as 'i can't be free', like he can't escape his fate. And maybe that's the reason the short films are called Wings. You fly with wings, so maybe this is the members getting wings and being free from their shitty youth? And maybe why Jin's short film is called awake is either because he's A) realsing he can't escape his death and dies or B) HE AWAKES FROM HIS COMA! Maybe when he got in the car accident (that's what we agreed on, right?) he slipped in a coma? And when he walked into the light, that was him waking up? you know, because hospitals are bright af? And the rest are in thearapy because their bff is in a coma and then they talk about all of the past shit that has happend. Maybe this whole thing with Jin's short film is a coma? Him being alone, being delusional, kinda crazy is because he's in a coma? idk
@cricket98741
@cricket98741 8 жыл бұрын
and with what you said about this being a new concept, this is them talking about their youth and all the bad times just like thearapy.
@tanyabhatia
@tanyabhatia 8 жыл бұрын
lol I was reading your comment being all serious, but I lost it at Shitty Youth and cracked up... heheheheh
@blackparadise4292
@blackparadise4292 8 жыл бұрын
u
@craftycray7725
@craftycray7725 8 жыл бұрын
it makes sense....but the same time it doesn't...someone save my brain....its gonna explode...wahh
@Remoncakeeyyy
@Remoncakeeyyy 4 жыл бұрын
And what if he had forgotten all about him and his life so that's why he can't 'fly' (be free) and that's why everywhere in the hospital are props from the past of his friends. Also I think the camera in jimin's lie is Jin ( they are on the hospital the two of them) and he is showing his dark past try to explain to Jin what happened to others cuz if you look carefully the camera showing jimin some circles that have some damage that are the other bts members pasts damages , when he shows him someone else's circle damage jimin laughs but when he shows his own jimin start to fall in the water showing that jimin had a very powerful damage than others while he doesn't remember others damage
@Btsalwayss
@Btsalwayss 8 жыл бұрын
TBH I'm pretty happy you realise that the book is just at theme. People are saying that's all these films are about but that's really stupid because they link back to the youth erra so it doesn't really make sense that all of that was just about a book lol. The book is a theme for the story, the book is not the story itself. Especially since there was no link to the book before. BTS have been hinting at butterflies the entire times so I really like this. ALSO I HOPE JIN IS ALIVE TOO TBH but it also makes sense he's dead for your other theory anyway so I just think you're right not matter what you say lol
@Btsalwayss
@Btsalwayss 8 жыл бұрын
Yes and I think it's only being used as a theme for the short films. They're only teasers. Linking the short films back to Sinclair and naming the boys as Jin's alter egos doesn't explain the mental patient theme or the butterfly effects Ally showed. BTS have only now just started using this book as a theme, but the butterfly effect has been evident for a while. BTS have used other things as themes like a movie called Lost River (which ally made a theory on) but that wasn't the whole story, it's just a theme. I think Demian is used in the films to show that the boys are now looking back on their youthful days (like ally mentioned about the lyrics) because they wanted to do do a flash back of the youth erra concept, and show they are now moving on from this concept. However, I believe Ally's theory makes more sense for the wings concept , because she has said that she is giving a theory for the concept since these short films are teasers. Jin's short film also fits Ally's theory that Jin was dead, which is of course a pretty popular theory. People also say this whole concept is about this book and it isn't. That's all i'm saying, Ally's theory is for the concept and not just targeting these films and nothing else, because these films are only teasers and this theme using Demian won't continue because Jin's short film is like the end of that theme anyway. Idk if she's right that he was brought back to life, but I like the theory because the butterfly effect makes lots of sense for BTS (they have always hinted this) and can't wait to see the mvs to see what's really going on (:
@Btsalwayss
@Btsalwayss 8 жыл бұрын
ooh i'm sorry? D: I didn't mean to act that way at all :(
@Btsalwayss
@Btsalwayss 8 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to give my opinion since you asked if I had read the book. Sorry :( I don't think anyone can know if they're right and wrong. We all interpret in our own way and until big hit actually tells us none of us know if we're right and wrong. I'm sorry if you're upset at me because I really didn't mean you to be. Sorry :(
@Btsalwayss
@Btsalwayss 8 жыл бұрын
I don't even know your theory? I assumed it was the alter ego theory though because that's the theory that comes with the book (if not feel free to let m e know your theory because i'd love to know). I like that theory and I like Ally's theory and I think no one knows for real until big hit explain or release music videos so for now we can all have our different theories because it helps us understand for now with this confusing concept :) i really am sorry agin because I very much didn't mean to offend you in any way.
@taniabelhassen2143
@taniabelhassen2143 8 жыл бұрын
You're probably right about the book being a theme I think that too but they did link the book in the Danger mv and era, they had a shirt with the book's cover on it so it was probably an hint :)
@taro5311
@taro5311 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, BTS saved their eomma by using a an iron lol
@JusttAlly
@JusttAlly 8 жыл бұрын
HII EVERYONE ^_^ SO I JUST WANT TO SAY that the reason I didn't give all the speicifc connections to the book is because I very much the book is only a theme. (I looked into the book and if you're curious about the connections for the theme, look up the book and check it out! It's reall cool! There are other theories on youtube showing the connections of the book too!). I don't really think WINGS as a new concept is going to continue to surround around this book, I think it was just done for these short film teasers. It's the same as when BTS referenced the movie Lost River, this was simply a theme for that MV, and no longer was used for anything else later on in the concept. This theory is for the concept. In this video I wanted to set up a theory for the whole new concept! WINGS is a new concept and these short films are only teasers, so realistically who knows how they're gonna do it LOL (This is the reason I don't usually do theories for teasers beacause I find it pointless most the time haha). Future music videos will answer questions and continue the concept! I also love the theory about the boys being Jin's alter-egos but I just don't like how it doesn't explain the random mental patient theme hahaha so I wanted to give reason why :) Butterflies and the butterfly effect has always been something BTS hints at, so I felt this fits this theory. Other than that I also just wanted to show all those butterfly effect changes, and how those lyric slides join up to tell the whole youth concept. Anyway thank you for watching the video and I hope you enjoyed :3 I can't wait for the new MVS so I can do more theories for you guys! Keep commenting your theories (and please be nice, this is a space for us all to become detectives, we r all in this together lol) AND UH I'M SORRY I COULDN'T FIT EVERYTHING I WANTED TO IN THIS THEORY. YEAH LET ME KNOW IF U WANT INDIVIDUAL EXPLANATIONS OF THE SHORT FILMS and if you want a Danger theory? :3 I love you all
@alexbob3927
@alexbob3927 8 жыл бұрын
Your theory honestly makes the most sense. You're right, the book is only a theme. It's a whole new concept so the alter ego no longer really makes sense. I've read the book and I still think your theory makes the most sense for the concept tbh love you too ally
@sessrinwillreignsupreme5050
@sessrinwillreignsupreme5050 8 жыл бұрын
OMYGOD I JUST GOT HOME FROM SCHOOOOL THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR RELEASING THIS I WAITED SOOO MUCH ~ it's meh @Prixyne_SM17E hiii XD 🙋🙋🙋🙋
@goldenkookie935
@goldenkookie935 8 жыл бұрын
omg! finally! 😍 i missed u soooo much!
@sessrinwillreignsupreme5050
@sessrinwillreignsupreme5050 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much Ally for Uploading this!!! You've worked hard and did a really good job on WINGS theory and it really fits! (about Jin possibly being not really dead -which made me really happy to hear, maybe he's in a coma or smth??? 😄😄) Thank u so much for already devoting your time on this.. I shouldn't be demanding... but I truly wish if you could have more time, if you could create more theories on the member's short films (even just those members who need more clarification)... ㅠㅠ or also the danger-linked theory.. We would really love that.. please.. 💕💕💕
@imaan8347
@imaan8347 8 жыл бұрын
can u do a theory for got7 flight log turbulence
@nikkim7038
@nikkim7038 7 жыл бұрын
I think they all live in diferent universes, but they are all connected. They are kinda aware of this, but they can't face eachother. They try to find ways to communicate with eachother, but someone else doesn't allow it. Like the locked telephone booth in Rap Monster's film. They try to cope with it and find a way to meet, but they can't. So this affects them so much, they end up killing themselves. But the timeline never ends, it's like a movie that you can't stop, playing over and over again. So, are they dead or not? Depending when you see it.
@triceyporter8832
@triceyporter8832 6 жыл бұрын
Lady Pandicorn I can see this
@mahazabinh
@mahazabinh 7 жыл бұрын
I’m just praying that it’s A story not THEIR story.
@Btsalwayss
@Btsalwayss 8 жыл бұрын
Ally I also really love how you always encourage other people to comment their own theories. Other youtubers and people are so mean and always say only their theory is right, and shoot down other people's. Some even delete comments of other people's theories. But you always just give your side and encourage everyone to be nice and respect other people's theories. like every after saying that's my theory, you have that slide 'what are you're thoughts? comment below your own theories'. It's probably because you're a film student (like me) so you understand everything is in the end up for interpretation. People like your interpretations because they're always just so beautiful. It shows you're incredibly insightful and intelligent. I believe you think like our great leader rapmon haha. You're really awesome and I love and respect you. I hope one day these kpop groups see you and your hard work and ask to work with you, because I know you want to be working in the industry one day. thank you if you read my long message and I always look toward to watching more of your work. fighting
@JusttAlly
@JusttAlly 8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha aww thank you so much for your kind words ^_^ Yess I love reading other people's theories in the comments! I always want people to comment their own theories and I would never get upset if someone doesn't agree. You're right, film is always up for interpretation. Their interpretation is simply something they understood and what the film made them feel, and that's beautiful. Nice to see another film student by the way! For you to comment such a nice comment shows you're awesome. Thank you again, hopefully we both make it in the film industry haha
@swaralik7841
@swaralik7841 8 жыл бұрын
I seriously think Jimin's short film had a slight reference to 'Snow White and the 7 dwarfs'. like the stepmother controls Snow White, someone is controlling Jimin(the depiction of hospital and the brief reference to pills shows that someone is controlling Jimin's state of mind and body). like the step mother, the camera is continuously keeping a watch on Jimin. like Snow White, Jimin is all alone, with no one to keep him a company. and he lies to himself that he has friends with him, like Snow White imagines friends in animals and birds(the reference to a pillow fight when no one is with him). the stepmother lies to Snow White that the Apple is pure and clean(the Apple falling in water). Snow White eats the Apple and falls unconscious. Falling unconscious, almost dead is her curse. While Jimin, who eats the Apple realizes the friends he imagined are either not real or not with him(him collapsing in the bath tub, crying in rain/shower, etc) he reaches his hand out, trying to reach out for his friends, but there's no one there. realizing the truth is his curse. after realizing, he cannot smile or be happy like he was during the opening shots of the film which is also referenced in the lyrics 'give me my smile, find my innocence.'
@JusttAlly
@JusttAlly 8 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting and cool! :3
@jersonorellana8952
@jersonorellana8952 8 жыл бұрын
captions :'c
@Sakine-animate
@Sakine-animate 8 жыл бұрын
Is it just my bad memory, when did Snow White have a stepmother? Are you referring to the evil queen?
@swaralik7841
@swaralik7841 8 жыл бұрын
+WatashiaiNeji Yeah it is the Evil Queen... but the Evil Queen is supposed to be her step mother by the story
@sophiakhuranasoprano
@sophiakhuranasoprano 7 жыл бұрын
well shiteu
@kidrauhl69
@kidrauhl69 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe bringing Jin back made him insane? Maybe part of his soul wasn't brought back and he's insane because he's not his whole self? Maybe his soul whispers to him and that's why he's looking around all the time. Part of him is living, but another part of him is still dead? I think that's why he walked into the light... maybe he just wants to be whole again? For the other boys, I agree with what you said at the end. Maybe when they brought Jin back, it didn't erase the other life or storyline from their memories? Maybe they remember everything about both storylines. They remember the whole time, but two different ways... if you know what I mean... The one's who were depressed (Jimin & J-Hope) have been hospitalized because they're the most volatile? Jimin and J-Hope might have tried so hard to convince people of their memories of Jin's death and all the other things that happened before the Fire MV. The memories might also be making them go insane, just in general. The memories of the other life might be overlapping with this new life after they broke the curse, so they can't tell the difference between this life and the other. Rap Monster is regretful, but still trying to move on like he did in Run, he's back to doing things he used to (tattooing himself just like he did in the Danger MV). Jungkook is accepting of everything and that's why he has such bad dreams because he knows it all happened but wants to move on so badly and accept everything (just like in Run), that he didn't try to convince anyone his memories were real like J-Hope and Jimin did. And V is just working to protect his sister without killing their father. But he can't help but feel like he's still locked away. The truth of what he did in the other life still haunts him and he's still guilty about it. Also, V is remembering more than the others, it seems. You can see flashbacks in his short film that the other films don't really have. So V probably feels trapped in a world that he feels isn't real because he knows what he did... he knows the decisions he made and doesn't feel like this new life changes any of it.
@brookehodge135
@brookehodge135 7 жыл бұрын
I'm new here, but y'all...Abraxas is a very powerful demon in ancient texts. The only way for a butterfly effect to happen is to go back in time. Someone sold his soul. That's why Jin is looking around all scared... something is coming for him.
@burnttoast8300
@burnttoast8300 5 жыл бұрын
I'm one year late but like- H o l y h e l l ?
@eibitharooh8430
@eibitharooh8430 5 жыл бұрын
I thought about that too. In the save me webtoon the voice that jin heared said you are the one i was looking for(sth like that i don t remember exactly the words)
@shubhangiawale2048
@shubhangiawale2048 4 жыл бұрын
@@eibitharooh8430 it said are you sure you could go back in time and save everyone ? in this entangled destiny you wont be able to leave alone.. i believe this is what it said also it was a white cat with a green and blue eye and in one of TXT's mv there is a white cat with green and blue eyes so my theory is that , the cat went to call TXT to come hellp jin save all the members because he cant do all of it on its own, also in TXT's cat and dog , their shown in a small cat house like thing and you can hear a cat calling the from outside they never showed us the cat but maybe it can be like the cat went to call txt to help jin save all the members..
@cherise5745
@cherise5745 8 жыл бұрын
WHAT IF HE'S IN COMA. JIN IS NOT DEAD BUT NOT ALIVE AS WELL, HE'S IN A COMA FROM THE CAR CRASH.
@saishinde2265
@saishinde2265 8 жыл бұрын
Cherry Universe OMG YA AND MAYBE WALKING IN THE LIGHT MEANS WALKING OUT OF COMMA. HENCE THE NAME AWAKE.
@jamaisvudoo541
@jamaisvudoo541 7 жыл бұрын
OHMYGODIMSHOOKED
@kpop-karmabutterfly7836
@kpop-karmabutterfly7836 8 жыл бұрын
I swear I avoid every theory but yours! You're a fucking genius!!
@kpop-karmabutterfly7836
@kpop-karmabutterfly7836 8 жыл бұрын
And of course I want a danger theory!
@Taemintism
@Taemintism 8 жыл бұрын
Ah yes I've been waiting for this ;)
@mayagibson2378
@mayagibson2378 8 жыл бұрын
ik, I was waiting
@shawingarts3612
@shawingarts3612 8 жыл бұрын
My Theory is Jin has an alter ego or Multiple Personality Disorder. And the other members represents the lives created by Jin's Mind. The others shows the pain and things Jin is Going through. And so In short film #7 Awake, Jin was getting dizzy when he layed down showing he is delusional of having 6 friends. Jin walk away from the room and the camera goes back the room showing 6 polaroids representing the other members that Jin had finally left and realize that they weren't real and ready to face reality. Even the video were they are taking a picture as a group? With an old camera? When the photo is taken the other member disappear and only Jin appears right? Because he was alone the whole time. And the part where Jimin is holding a photo where Jin disappered represents that Jin is not real in there own perspective. Did ya get me? Lol. Sorry for my Bad Engrish~ xD
@shawingarts3612
@shawingarts3612 8 жыл бұрын
Oh and the last part of Jin's short film. All the other circles came out from Jin's circle also representing that the others are created and from JIn's mind
@sofiaw9767
@sofiaw9767 8 жыл бұрын
Yessss, THIS TOTALLY MAKES SENSE. 0-0
@whalienmy9909
@whalienmy9909 8 жыл бұрын
i got goosebump reading your comment. it does make sense tho
@keyyredd1841
@keyyredd1841 8 жыл бұрын
Genious
@hamham8243
@hamham8243 7 жыл бұрын
omg i've been thinking about this theory a long time and you're the first person i see that agrees with me in some parts! I think a bit different, though, i believe that the 6 friends and their lives are created by Jin's mind basing on stuff Jin sees in that house or in his room or wherever he is in Awake, so for example he created jimin from the apple, jungkook from that painting, and etc... so obvioulsy they are not real, they are only in jin's imagination (?) Sorry if there are some mistakes ^^'
@latwillie9977
@latwillie9977 8 жыл бұрын
I would only like to know what you think about the scratches on the door in Jins film
@Tigrislupa
@Tigrislupa 8 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think it represents V and scratching tic he had in Stigma. What that means in regards to Jin...I have no idea
@shawingarts3612
@shawingarts3612 8 жыл бұрын
And it spelled Lie too
@sabrinabayonet
@sabrinabayonet 8 жыл бұрын
a danger theory video would be nice yea, also what's the name of the font you use?
@JusttAlly
@JusttAlly 8 жыл бұрын
It's called Century Gothic haha :3
@sabrinabayonet
@sabrinabayonet 8 жыл бұрын
***** thanks!!
@shisea
@shisea 8 жыл бұрын
+sabrina bayonet ajchshx I love the profile pic with what you're saying it looks like the fish is saying it.
@sabrinabayonet
@sabrinabayonet 8 жыл бұрын
Chelsea Siwon haha yeah spongebob icons are the best, i have a few more saved
@zaritomatogaming752
@zaritomatogaming752 6 жыл бұрын
With the danger music video it's about them meeting a girl when they was in high school and now since they finally got her they warning her about her actions and that they feels to her is one sided
@yessir68
@yessir68 8 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to mention something, idk if you saw it yet but in the close up Hobi's eye in MAMA he is looking at that same door V painted in RUN and was hitting with something in STIGMA and i noticed if you look very closely the God Abraxas that Namjoon was talking about is in the pic and the moon is on the right, sun on the left it also says "WING/S?" and "V" under it. I don't know if this means anything but also in Jin's video, the wallpaper is Abraxas. I was just thinking maybe they're being controlled by him I don't know I still want to look more into what Abraxas does/known for something like that. Also i noticed that in the pic of the mom and her child it says "Eva" on the side and when they show the WINGS logo transforming one of the circles had "Eva" all over it and that was the same circle they showed Jimin when he was in front of the camera.
@mpty2000
@mpty2000 7 жыл бұрын
Monbebe ARMY thought I was the only one who mentioned the abraxas wallpaper
@jj-zs8ii
@jj-zs8ii 7 жыл бұрын
This reminds me a lot of Anohana but more sad
@selenaramos8957
@selenaramos8957 7 жыл бұрын
J J I️ think I️ just heard my heart break into a million more pieces
@myrusucua
@myrusucua 6 жыл бұрын
OMG
@lamppost7941
@lamppost7941 6 жыл бұрын
tfw bts has literally rec’d the movie before and has mvs mirroring scenes from the film
@Val-vn8qy
@Val-vn8qy 7 жыл бұрын
I think that he doesnt go to a good god. Instead Abraxas is the devil, tricking him. That is why V was scratching out the word Abraxas in his short film. Then V makes a sacrifice by selling his soul to the devil to get Jin back. Thats why he has the scars and gets wings in the newer music. Then one by one they all follow? Im not sure about Boy meets Evil yet but km hoping once more music comes out it will make sense
@valoreii
@valoreii 8 жыл бұрын
When the doctor is writing on the clipboard, written next to 'assessment' is what I'm guessing to be munchausen syndrome. The definition of munchausen syndrome is as follows: Munchausen syndrome is a factitious disorder, a mental disorder in which a person repeatedly and deliberately acts as if he or she has a physical or mental illness when he or she is not really sick. Munchausen syndrome is considered a mental illness because it is associated with severe emotional difficulties. If what is written on the clipboard applies to J-Hope then that could mean that J-Hope is sturggling with some severe emotional issues and trying to blame his bad feelings of guilt, depression, etc etc on some sort of sickness, which would lead to him repeatedly saying that he's sick. The pills could be to either calm him down or put him to sleep, and the same room with the paints could be some alternate reality which could be part of a nightmare. This was just something I noticed and people didn't seem to pay attention to it much so I decided to just spread some knowledge.
@AlwaysaFangirl
@AlwaysaFangirl 8 жыл бұрын
There's also those 'You need to survive' lines everywhere. Maybe Jin is struggling to not die? Maybe he's suicidal?
@chancla430
@chancla430 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. Life makes sense now. AND HEEEEY FELLOW AUSSIE FAM
@amarraaa
@amarraaa 7 жыл бұрын
I read something about a theory related to the book named Demian. It said that it's about Emil Sinclair's life. Jungkook is the youngest and his video was the first one to be released. He plays the childhood version of Sinclair. And in the short film he is pure and doesn't do anything destructive. Sinclair begins the novel as a mentally precocious 10 year old boy. The Hangul quote about 50 seconds in reads "The dawn right before the sun rises is the darkest" That was before he met Damian. The few frames directly afterwards play an echoed audio clip of Jungkook singing. "The 15 year old me who didn't have anything" clears up the fact that JK indeed represents child! Sinclair. The whistle in the beginning of Begin is a link to the book as well. A boy named Kromer often whistled to summon Sinclair and threaten him. Sinclair is afraid of Kromer since he is not a good guy and so, he even feared the whistle and panicked whenever he heard it. Sometimes he is so caught up in his fears and even heard it in his dreams and woke up terrified. The painting. Sinclair painted a portrait. Someone who looks like Demian but not exactly. Later, he pins the painting in to the window and when the sun rays pass through it, the painting has features of Sinclair himself. Further ahead he discovers that the painting is of Eva. The book is Solely about the development of Sinclair both mentally and physically. I got that Begin theory from wattpad. The book is called BTS WINGS EXPLAINED! the author is shooknae. I think the theory is pretty accurate. And the author also explained what's behind of every short film in the album wings.
@rainydayssteph
@rainydayssteph 8 жыл бұрын
DANGER THEORY!!! I love your theories!! Sorry for the pressure on you to make this video come out quicker. You're already tired enough with Uni.
@YayMiko
@YayMiko 6 жыл бұрын
These are so cool...This is all head canon for me now, that the boys live in this sort of dream-like, supernatural world with every action affecting the others in some way. The comparisons you did with the memories and the changes side by side was so cool...I especially got chills watching Jungkook's. It looked EXACTLY like that was the memory he was reliving. Loved it!!! Oh, and the music was so awesome. It fit perfectly. Serious, but also mysterious and almost dream-like.
@hanna6103
@hanna6103 8 жыл бұрын
why are they making so sad music videos. and all the theories make me anxious. this is too deep 😐
@iisleepyllama
@iisleepyllama 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that some of the other members faces appeared during the ripples when Jin touched the portal thing! That was some crazy detail. And I would think it represents him going in to try and save his friends, maybe?
@Tigrislupa
@Tigrislupa 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the theory! I'm going to have to mull this over and rewatch it a few times to let it sink in. I would love love love for you to connect the scenes to past MVs. (I have to say! I was so proud! I saw the mirror that was in Awake in Suga's room at the start of the I Need U MV. I have NO IDEA what that means though ;~; ) Also, please oh please do a video explaining the link to Danger. I saw the parallels and obviously the clips, but this was so out of left field I'm still boggling. If you wanted to do videos on each individual short film, that wouldn't be bad. I still need to ponder more, but I'm curious how you interpret things like Jimin being "shot" as well as flashing to the burning piano. Or how the short films are memories, but then Mama seems more like pure change where the doctor doesn't believe J-Hope has an actual drug problem/medical condition. Long story short, if you make it, I will watch.
@sarahkinsley8892
@sarahkinsley8892 7 жыл бұрын
These theories are so good!! this one in particular is giving me so much goosebumps, thank you for making these!!
@fragrantpages1024
@fragrantpages1024 8 жыл бұрын
I need ALL the videos 😅 and actually, I really just need to see the mv. I feel like their mv will explain/link a lot of things too. It's so confusing omggg
@rhysfoley559
@rhysfoley559 8 жыл бұрын
I wont be sure about it since bighit likes us confused
@jannbangtan6206
@jannbangtan6206 6 жыл бұрын
soooooo it's like...... all of their songs (from the very first produced song) are connected with each other?????? oh gods..... this is...... my CUP OF TEA!!!!! THIS IS SOOOO FRIGGIN AWESOME! EVEN IF IT'S A BIT NERVE WRACKING IT IS STILL AWESOME!!!!
@komalgill9842
@komalgill9842 7 жыл бұрын
Someone should make like... a book... of just BTS MV theories. I would buy that book... and read it... like 4 times to actually understand and all.
@abzzzz
@abzzzz 8 жыл бұрын
I just wanna thank you for working out these amazing theories for us, so thank you very much for taking time out of your day to make these theories, and keep up the good work!
@lilyb5661
@lilyb5661 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe Jin's in a coma from almost drowning in the car and hasn't woken up yet. Maybe that's why the title is awake, maybe that light is him waking up??? In a hospital, the same one as Jhope and Jimin??? Idk
@ezurachan
@ezurachan 7 жыл бұрын
+JusttAlly Oh my... the words about flying to God statement is the exact statement rap mon was saying in the blood, sweat and tears MV. when the scene was colored in red and the balloon was let go.
@lhyxs
@lhyxs 8 жыл бұрын
So now wtf happened to kpop? all MVs got theories, BTS, EXO, GOT7, INFINITE and more...... I just wanna stop thinking about the complicated messages
@blurustc8341
@blurustc8341 8 жыл бұрын
lol that's right but i like kpop even more now, it's confusing but still it's so much fun trying to figure everything out and find the point.
@keyyredd1841
@keyyredd1841 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. EXO is the first one with MAMA song until Lotto. But BTS one is too confusing and we don't even realized that all the MVs of BTS is all connected until WINGS is come out. People would just notice about I NEED U, RUN AND YOUNG FOREVER. But these MVs is connected. Infinite started with Back MV from 2014
@ashygfriend6784
@ashygfriend6784 8 жыл бұрын
MAMA isn't really a story, it's more of a cool concept.
@juniper-mariehisaw9244
@juniper-mariehisaw9244 7 жыл бұрын
Music is MEANT to tell a story. And theories are just a little way for people to talk about those stories before the bigger picture is shown. It's not just Kpop either. Bands like Bastille, Chainsmokers, The Neighborhood, and artist like Christina Grimmie, all tell or told stories through their music and albums. Music isn't just a form of entertainment, its an outlet for emotions, an art form, and a way for people to tell stories.
@dontparkjimin4466
@dontparkjimin4466 7 жыл бұрын
Stefanie L. yes its fucking up my brain
@sniggllzz1
@sniggllzz1 6 жыл бұрын
What if it's the other way around? What if Jin is the last one alive? The others fell prey to the evil, and now Jin is the only one left and he's gone insane, crazy, knowing his friends aren't there anymore. So he's constantly imagining, seeing situations that are not there, hallucinating, dizzy, etc. It's because he cannot handle the fact that his friends are gone. And he can't let it go, he can't fly, he can't be free because they aren't there anymore. His reason for life isn't there anymore.
@SarahinformedPicture
@SarahinformedPicture 8 жыл бұрын
This was great and you really should make more on the short films, but i had a question! What's your opinion on the theory that all 6 members are a part of Jin's psyche and that he needed them to "move on" or "grow up". This theory is really supported by "Demian" and leaves room for other theories within that to be true, like the members' connections, etc.
@niharikadalvi1388
@niharikadalvi1388 8 жыл бұрын
You know when the short films were released, I kind of tried to connect all the videos and tried to come to a conclusion but I was really confused. I understood half of it and the other half I was just clueless and then I saw this video and now everything just connected in my head! Damn you are really good at writing these theories!
@snehasalvatore4365
@snehasalvatore4365 7 жыл бұрын
BTS is different from the other groups. Ilovethemsomuch!! ;')) I want Jin to be alive
@itscrystalclaire7668
@itscrystalclaire7668 6 жыл бұрын
Literally that first scene when V lays next to the girl I replayed it like 10 times and each time I was like no.no.nO.NO.NO.NOOOOO
@smolbug657
@smolbug657 8 жыл бұрын
So, I have a Theory. Maybe Jin is in a koma, listening to the others storys how they acted out. This is why he keeps looking around; he can hear them but can't see them. The actions of the boys are a 'consequence' by them telling him about the actions; he wants to understand them. This could also be the reason why he's in a hospital bed. And he walks into the light because he's slowly waking up from the coma; his songs name is 'Awake'. Does this make sense? But I Love your Theories, keep up the good work and thank you! (:
@jinnieslamp1493
@jinnieslamp1493 8 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much I was waiting for this. Thanks! I can't wait to see what you came up with.
@potato4128
@potato4128 7 жыл бұрын
No hate, I know you're a film student and all and I know that you can formulate theories and interpretations better than I can, but some of your explanations leave me with questions such as "what about this and what about that?" Your theories seem logical and makes sense by the way, and I like them as well.. But it just seems like some things are missing and I just can't quite put a finger to it. By the way thank you so much for taking the time to make these!
@potato4128
@potato4128 7 жыл бұрын
Or I'm just a detail-oriented potato idk really XD
@Tish256
@Tish256 6 жыл бұрын
Potat O I'm going to go with POTATO
@Lovelailalove
@Lovelailalove 8 жыл бұрын
Anything to do with the whole BTS theories, I've come to you to understand. For me it all makes sense with your theories. Good job! Only sad part about it is that Jin is "dead" :( he's my bias. But like you said it could means he's still alive
@tastysugakookie5794
@tastysugakookie5794 7 жыл бұрын
GOD WHEN RAPMON DROPPED THE PAPER JIMIN FELL JIMIN WAS BURNING A PAPER WHEN HE WAS IN THE BATHTUB IN I NEED U/RUN (i can't remember i'm too shookt)
@fragrantpages1024
@fragrantpages1024 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe Jin's been in a coma this whole time? I really don't want Jin to be dead because that's just really super sad 😭
@KirstieFiona
@KirstieFiona 8 жыл бұрын
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FROM YOU!! YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST IDEAS, THANK YOUUUUU
@dokr4584
@dokr4584 8 жыл бұрын
14:42 if we refer back to blood sweat and tears. Jin kiss the devil via a statue to make a deal with him.. any relations?
@shubhangiawale2048
@shubhangiawale2048 4 жыл бұрын
..... Omg there could be........
@pardis_army7589
@pardis_army7589 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean that jin comes to life after kissing the devil????? I'm very curious
@marisol-qm1wg
@marisol-qm1wg 8 жыл бұрын
i would totally be willing to watch ANY bts theory that you upload!! keep them coming girl! (at your own pace of course)
@user-qf1ql2eh2m
@user-qf1ql2eh2m 8 жыл бұрын
Personally, I just thought that each boy / film represented parts of Jin and that the last film was him coming to terms and accepting himself idk
@IceCreamCookieLove99
@IceCreamCookieLove99 7 жыл бұрын
This video was awesome and for some reason I wanted to cry. Great work and the highest of respect! 🖤
@michelleweilenmann8619
@michelleweilenmann8619 8 жыл бұрын
No offence, but i still don't get it xD i didn't get the action-change thing idk xD although the book is a theme i agree, there a lot of connections between both that also explains things like the piano on fire, the whistle, the picture of mama and so on, overall i think Jin is dead and all the pictures are his memories of the member/ connections that really happen to them basically every all of them end up crazy or dead and that impacts in every member differently, though i still don't know what happens to suga and rm, i just dont even know what im writting right now hahaha so confuse and so many thories xD
@prm836
@prm836 8 жыл бұрын
You should watch mintaegi's BTS wings theory, I swear its the best I have seen so far. I found out many answers to my questions
@michelleweilenmann8619
@michelleweilenmann8619 8 жыл бұрын
Thnx i will ^^
@mahsa.19s17
@mahsa.19s17 8 жыл бұрын
i feel u xD i want die :||||| :///// :\\\\\
@shaunaray1
@shaunaray1 7 жыл бұрын
I believe Jin is in a coma type state and he's between life and death. Everyone is trying to revive him and Jin is watching them in spirit while bit by bit remembering the past, what was done, how he affected the others and coming to terms with it before moving forward, waking up.i just can't see him as dead or as one being with multiple personalities. It seems more real than that, everyone is an individual dealing with there own problems in there lives just in different ways and their stories are connected.
@MusicBox131
@MusicBox131 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, please make a danger theory (:
@Nisa3031
@Nisa3031 8 жыл бұрын
I'm glad finally you came up and bring another theory. I love watched your all theory about BTS MV and video.
@SofiMoscarda
@SofiMoscarda 8 жыл бұрын
I'VE BEEN CRAVING YOUR VIDEOS SO MUCH OMG AKFJANFJABFJABFBABFBABFA
@princessairi
@princessairi 8 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your theory as well as the fact that their teaser pictures have them wearing clothes similar to pajamas (idk if they are) keep up with the hard work and we thank you for your time helping us out (:
@Flynightcore
@Flynightcore 8 жыл бұрын
OHMYGOD SO WHEN IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT JIN WALKING INTO THE LIGHT IT MADE ME THINK THAT ALL THE MVS AR CONNECTED RIGHT? SO IF JIN DIES, THE OTHER NEW MVS WILL NOT CONTAIN HIM SO IT MADE ME THINK THAT HES LEAVING THE GROUP AND I STARTED CRYING EVEN THOUGH ITS NOT TRUE HAHAH OK CONTINUE
@mahsa.19s17
@mahsa.19s17 8 жыл бұрын
i think so! from past i always thought this & now it's more likely for me!!!!!!!!!!! jin is my bias i don't want he leave the gp :'(((((((((
@jimin-ssi7256
@jimin-ssi7256 8 жыл бұрын
I am actually shook how all your theories before actually appeared to be really truthful and even in the way of connections
@anniesazev
@anniesazev 8 жыл бұрын
Pls make a video for each short film, bc all together is confuse. I wanna know more details
@ariannaion8088
@ariannaion8088 8 жыл бұрын
I just filled in the document ^^ anyway,I'd love to see all your BTS theories,no matter how long they are...I love how you explain things!
@sierramike7394
@sierramike7394 8 жыл бұрын
BTS...........blood, sweat and tears..........please I can't Waiteu 😊😊
@sessrinwillreignsupreme5050
@sessrinwillreignsupreme5050 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much Ally for Uploading this!!! You've worked hard and did a really good job on WINGS theory and it really fits! (about Jin possibly being not really dead -which made me really happy to hear, maybe he's in a coma or smth??? 😄😄) Thank u so much for already devoting your time on this.. I shouldn't be demanding... but I truly wish if you could have more time, if you could create more theories on the member's short films (even just those members who need more clarification)... ㅠㅠ or also the danger-linked theory.. We would really love that.. please.. 💕💕💕
@tschoko
@tschoko 8 жыл бұрын
PLEASE CONNECT EVERYTHING WITH "BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS"
@aeena1665
@aeena1665 8 жыл бұрын
THANK GOD!!! I HAVE BEEN WAITING THESEE SINCE THE FIRST TEASER CAME OUT LIKE YASSSSSS
@carissato4748
@carissato4748 8 жыл бұрын
okay I'm probably wrong lol but at 15:17 (where it shows the paper with writing), it says "thought process: illogical, retarded" lolol he's probably just a mental patient now, because i have seen many theories of people saying he's dead but i honestly think that he just went crazy lmao
@layala.n.4029
@layala.n.4029 8 жыл бұрын
The paintings are "the fall of the rebel angels" (the first one shown. Jin stares at it before the song starts) "the lament of icarus" (j-hope lays on a swing in front of it) and "landscape with the fall of Icarus" (v sits on a balcony railing in front of it)
@pen6029
@pen6029 8 жыл бұрын
Okay that's great and all, but what does the Snickers bar mean in J-Hope's film 😂😂
@lulupain18
@lulupain18 8 жыл бұрын
On the book Sinclair (which the short films are based on), the main character said that every time he felt sad/bad his mother would give him a piece of chocolate to make him feel better.
@pen6029
@pen6029 8 жыл бұрын
Omg there was an actual answer? Thank you XD It makes sense
@lulupain18
@lulupain18 8 жыл бұрын
Jungkookie's Bae Oh, I forgot to say that it also means Snickers paid them a lot of $$$. XD
@prm836
@prm836 8 жыл бұрын
I recommend you to watch mintaegi's BTS Wings theory, you will find your answers for most of your questions :)
@keyyredd1841
@keyyredd1841 8 жыл бұрын
+prm Saw your suggestion for the third time.. i will watch it
@amandacheung1797
@amandacheung1797 8 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSS THIS WAS AMAZING 💙 thanks ally!!! ^-^
@jhopestoe9485
@jhopestoe9485 8 жыл бұрын
Who's coming with me to korea to punch bighit ....I want a buing buing concept ..😢pls bang pd
@flopyvigna
@flopyvigna 8 жыл бұрын
Finally I was waiting for this!! i love your theories. Please i need to see the danger one and any other bts theory you want to make because you're awesome! ^^
@jhopestoe9485
@jhopestoe9485 8 жыл бұрын
y can't I play it ....says there was a problem while playing. ..😢
@katylove5004
@katylove5004 8 жыл бұрын
I keep closing the tab and opening it and I could finally see it so don't give up
@naharadonnes1059
@naharadonnes1059 8 жыл бұрын
BEEN WAITING FOR THE LONGEST TIME THANK YOU EONNI ❤️✨
@CherryH1730
@CherryH1730 8 жыл бұрын
necesito esto en español 😢
@Mariana-bs3jw
@Mariana-bs3jw 8 жыл бұрын
Yes we need more videos!!!!! Right when the first short film came out I thought about ally and was waiting patiently for her theory's
@Lia-tp2ub
@Lia-tp2ub 8 жыл бұрын
You always have the best theories I have seen , Great Job :)
@fluffyrulz4365
@fluffyrulz4365 7 жыл бұрын
This whole concept is so good so perfect it needs to be a movie!!
@Jay-nq4wq
@Jay-nq4wq 7 жыл бұрын
Ally’s theory’s make me cry even more after I watch the video and every-time I rewatch them I just cry now
@lanamello7445
@lanamello7445 8 жыл бұрын
that part where you showed the references to all the boys short films FUCKED ME UP REAL BAD I watched the mv countless of times and I thought I was paying attention to everything... guess not lol
@saphia9232
@saphia9232 8 жыл бұрын
THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR ALL THIS EFFORT I REALLY ENVY YOU FOR MAKING THIS EFFORT AND BEIGN SO ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT KPOP THEORIES
@lavinia1039
@lavinia1039 8 жыл бұрын
Omg these theories are actually legit. Please also do Infinite's The Eye and how it maybe related to BTD. And Got7 's turbulence trailer :)
@kunurulnajihah5775
@kunurulnajihah5775 8 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD U'RE BACKKKK! I MISS U SO MUCH ALLY SO MUCH!
@Aislingcurran9
@Aislingcurran9 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is by far the most intricate and detailed wings theory I have seen so far and it is personally the most relevant I also wanted to add that in the spring day MV jimin hangs up a pair of shoes (traditional for when someone dies) which perfectly ties in to this theory (since Jin was bare foot). I also just wanted to express my level of appreciation for you because of your dedication to this theory. (Now I will sleep at night!) Thank You, A fellow ARMY!
@reginabuno
@reginabuno 8 жыл бұрын
i feel so emotional after watching/reading all your theories for BTS! keep up the good work! Also blood sweat and tears pls!
@IfOnlyPigsCanFly
@IfOnlyPigsCanFly 8 жыл бұрын
Oh dang, this is convincing. At the same time, mintaegi's theory really gets into the references of the book and Hesse's life while yours goes more into the connection of the boys within each scene. If there was a way for both to make sense but of course, they could both be right if there's no true answer.
@arinkang9471
@arinkang9471 7 жыл бұрын
+Justt AllyTo prove more that he is actually dead, u need to understand the lyrics of the song, awake. He says mabye I,I can never fly, like the flower petals that have wings. as u saw in the mv, all the members except jin somehow get the black wing. The six petals represent the six members, so this means he is dead and can't fly like the other members. He later Burns the petals that he has been bringing all along which I think that shows he gave up and went to heaven, the after life. Another reason he is dead is because in the beginning of the song he says,I want to stay here, I want to dream more ( dreaming of him being with his friends as metiond in the other videos ) but it's time for me to leave. Meaning that he is leaving I'm not sure at the end if he actually left to the after life or just kept walking and running away bc in the song he keeps saying, I want to try, I want to keep walking with the six pedals in my hands. I guess we will find out later!!!!
@thedawnofthedarknes
@thedawnofthedarknes 8 жыл бұрын
OMG OMG THANK YOU I WAS WAITING FOR YOUR UPLOAD
@royaroyap
@royaroyap 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with all of this. But ALSO, in the video for Spring Day, there's a sign that says Omela's, and the story of Omela is that everyone can live in a happy perfect utopia if one person suffers. I think maybe Jin is sacrificing himself (because he feels bad about making his friends suffer) so that the others can be happy again. It would also kinda explain why he disappears from the photo at the end of the music video for Run. BUT, I also think the members are trying to bring him back. Because throughout the music video for Run, V is constanty doing things to Jin that kind of wake him up a lil, like knocking down his house of cards and things like that. So maybe Jin is in some weird in-between state where he's stuck between life and death which would explain why he's delusional.
@Emma-hv2zi
@Emma-hv2zi 8 жыл бұрын
Omg, Ally, you are such a Genius!! Watching this now (16th nov 2016) is so amazing because everything fits so perfectly!! Admit it, you work for bighit and you invented this whole Story ;)
@abatrisyia
@abatrisyia 8 жыл бұрын
i love your theories, they make me so emotional, especially the bts ones !! keep up the good work !! >.
@Klrouxx
@Klrouxx 5 жыл бұрын
when jins quote was like "we cried a lot and we laughed a lot but it was so beautiful" that got me crying a lot wow that was deep
@prm836
@prm836 8 жыл бұрын
Oh it's great as always. you find many interesting and unbelievable relations. I love it. but I recommend everyone to watch mintaegi's theory. It gave me chills. Please try it as well
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