Substance 3D Stager First Steps | Adobe Substance 3D

[@lowmoon9025]

Should be part of CC. Greedy.

[@zach8059]

I'm struggling to understand why its broken up into 4 separate apps.

[@TurdinatorT2000]

because $$$$

[@oleggorsky9131]

Because Adobe are crazy for dollars and currently they don’t even try to hide it. But if you do not want to feed a multibillion corporation who tries to steal all your money from you, just download their software from some tracker. It works fine)

[@williamlacrosse9389]

For commercial and marketing purposes!

[@sidddey]

Client: Why u have 2 Left Boots in the shot…dont u have mirror tool? Adobe Substance: Uhh…

[@JeanetteMathews]

We have mirror functionality on our list of short term things we'd like to add!

[@PHlophe]

pitajee siddartha , you've got jokes.

[@sidddey]

@@PHlophe Dhanyavaad putra 😊

[@leodiclemente5848]

Bro u can just set -1 to the main group scale X transform to get a mirrored object

[@sidddey]

@@leodiclemente5848 sure, i did it in blender ☺️

[@FesterThanLight]

Wow, cool!! just like Blender but you have to pay, so good

[@MMHA963]

daaaaaamn xD

[@karthikeyan3d319]

Not good as blender bro

[@jackynikola]

nah man. This is for kids. Learn to Model, sculpt....... This is like joke. but I guess everyone will say now they are 3D artists

[@RockfordMedia]

@@jackynikola you realize Apple used this for some product renders…

[@gogisa1980]

@@RockfordMediaWhat is your point? If Apple used it it must be good? Apple is also using this "Itunes" piece of crap and it doesn't make it good. Nikola is right in my opinion. There is nothing special about this software considering how expensive it is.

[@jixal]

If this was part of the CC subscription it would make so much sense, allowing more traditional graphic designers and easy-in to 3D. Stager is a direct replacement for Dimensions but its not being integrated in that way. Super weird.

[@risaoram-noaafederal2467]

Agree, its already a pretty penny for Creative Cloud Suite, so seems cost prohibitive to add 3 Substance programs, especially since there are other free alternatives.

[@seffdog1177]

Why does this cost extra???????? Already so expensive

[@jaigrant-williams7736]

Why should I pay for $40/month, on top of the $52/month you make people pay for CC, for this over almost any other 3d Software...

[@seffdog1177]

So frustrating isn’t it

[@stephencurah1059]

I agree, I looked for it in CC and it wasn't there. Just an additional money grab

[@mmr3657]

Substance was already an additional 20 or so a month through adobe but I agree with ya. I thought the benefit of adobe acquiring substance was that it would eventually be added to my CC sub. Guess thats not the case >.>

[@gidkideon]

Personally, I'd be more upset if I was a Substance user paying extra for PS, Illustrator and the like. Those apps innovate and update at a glacial pace in comparison.

[@MrKasugano]

Because EA.... oh pardon me, I meant " Adobe ".

[@_MGPz]

If adobe is moving into Stager (which seems to be a boosted version of Dimension), doest it mean that Adobe is going to interrupt Dimension support and people is going to have to pay extra for Stager? Wow you guy really care for your customers.

[@tndStudios]

Use marmoset toolbag instead for this stuff.

This. I've been trying to find examples of people comparing Substance Stager with Marmoset Toolbag and I guess people just haven't really compared the two...

[@LDMTX6]

Can you do a tutorial video that goes in depth with how to import models from blender and other 3D applications?

[@cr4723]

The price is madness. 50.- per month!!

[@aeonjoey3d]

We use Keyshot every day, along with a remote keyshot render farm at our home office since we all WFH, we tried dimension and shook our heads at how Broderbund-like it was. This seems only like a .5 version step above dimension. I don't know who the target audience for this product is, and unfortunately it seems neither does adobe.

[@Kratos40595]

Very helpful although Blender is free so perhaps Adobe should make this part of CC

[@vinbbbb1]

Great work guys, I see you took a page out of Lightwave's page and recreated a limited version of Layout . Amazing how little this has to do with an actual professional 3D pipeline, clearly none of that huge pile of Adobe money is spent on actual development.

[@jenkem4464]

Yeah and on top of that the 3d stager alone is like 20-25$ over the designer, painter, sampler. It's ridic. May as well just get Marmoset Toolbag and grab the 19-25$ designer/painter/sampler package. I F'in hate Adobe CC.

[@RootTheCoop87]

@@jenkem4464 That's why there's a whole video of somebody saying why the pirated versions of Adobe work much better. I'd rather buy it than paying for a subscription. rather pay a few hundred and use it when I'm ready instead of having money come out when I'm not even using it. Or thinking about having to cancel, re-subscribe, etc...

[@alexkuo7860]

Cycle X looks great

[@BlackKnightGuts]

The "Resolution" and "Canvas units" options are missing. Where can I show them?

[@Glorfindel92]

Dislike for horrible logo

[@XiaoLuLucas]

Nice Video, if teach how to adjust in the Photoshop at the end of video ,it's will be better

[@seekerleaf]

Is it for only 13 years and below age ?

[@risaoram-noaafederal2467]

No, ages 5 and below. Don't underestimate the youth ;)

[@Scultronic]

You only called Adobe Dimension to Substance 3D stager and does not even support for any of the substance .SBAR files what a joke xD! Send it to any other 3D package software and you will have way more features than the joke Substance 3D Stage aka Adobe dimension, calling it "Substance" is such a down grade of the great Quality of the Substance Products and we have to pay for that? holy cow xD!

[@seffdog1177]

I’m trying to figure out how this is different to dimensions

[@Scultronic]

@@seffdog1177 there's no difference they just renamed dimension to Substance 3d stager.

[@JeanetteMathews]

@@seffdog1177 Stager is based on some of the same technology and shares a lot of the same workflow. Stager has a completely reworked rendering engine architecture and material model that is designed to be part of the rest of the Substance 3D apps over time. The vision is a seamless ecosystem of 3D apps that work for end-to-end modeling, texturing, and staging with shared formats and rendering. It's a vision and this is the first step!

[@eleonoregil273]

Very straightforward tutorial, helped me to pick up the software quickly. These 21:37min were a good investment 👍

[@cupbored]

All of this should be integrated into Photoshop so we can just stage and composite there... oh, wait! It already is − but you're removing it all! This application serves no complete purpose.

[@adarnia]

cam down kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJKqmZmwnd-Jmrc

[@seffdog1177]

Looks the same as dimensions, how is this different?

[@karthikeyan3d319]

It doesn't matter they want to make more money with the name of substance

[@subhamsingh7673]

this is adobe's keyshot

[@Sorenfroststaal]

@@subhamsingh7673 just without the cool stuff

[@JeanetteMathews]

Dimension and Stager have overlapping functionality and are based on the same technology. Stager is a new app that will go deeper into precision and control. They are also sold separately. Dimension is part of Creative Cloud All Apps for general purpose access to 3D staging. Stager is part of the Substance 3D Collection as a suite of apps, services, and content for dedicated 3D workflows.

[@williamlacrosse9389]

In fact, this is dimension!

[@andrewestey2088]

Can you set up turntable animation in Substance Stager? This is a basic function I would hope Stager has, but I don't see any animatable camera

[@Substance3D]

Not yet, but you're not the first one to ask, and we listen!

[@mikeho1139]

What's the difference between this and dimensions? Dimensions was awful. Can we expect zero innovation/support for dimensions now. RIP Substance RIP Mixamo Fuse.

[@SooksVI]

I use dimensions a lot to do quick mockups and Stager feels like a finished version of Dimensions. It's what Dimensions should have been. Performance has improved with extra features that were needed.

[@AmitKumar-te6vw]

Adobe you need to make it part of Creative Cloud. Why charge extra for it?

[@Waffle4569]

a better question, why pay for it at all? Substance does the hard part of making the materials, something like Blender is way more capable for scene creation and rendering

[@Muslimah238me]

is this ice skates build in same software or in other software forexample " blender " ??

[@kaelo_3898]

Can I import obj ?

[@_Emi-Chan_]

When I opened the software, Grid is activated but I can’t see it and when I implode Obj or other 3D object files I can’t see anything :(

[@mikehynz]

I want simple 3D creation so I can spend more time working on gameplay. This looks like it will work for me. What program was the Roller Skate model created in?

[@Frigus3D-Art]

No bc you can't do shit with the software. All it does is rendering substance materials only. It has no usecase in any 3d/gamedev pipeline. Be a grown up and use your fullyfletched 3d program like everyone else does

[@andreicdavis]

Isn't this an upgrade of Adobe Atmosphere? Looks nice though. Perhaps if Adobe can find a way to do Maya Mel Scripting in an easy way within Substance 3D Stager, Adobe will have their own Unity 3D software for web projects and mobile applications.

[@chrissem5200]

Why I cant close stager or do anything in it. I work on gaming laptop.

[@RLee-oz6gl]

what is the point of this... There's already a ton of tools that does this sort of thing but better.

[@dawidwyborski3753]

Do substance stager is little bit like marmoset. Can I import my model already textured from substance painter

[@Substance3D]

Yes, just use File > Send To for the easiest workflow. That only works with the Adobe CC version though, not the Steam version.

[@torbenjansen1731]

Absolutely awesome. Great forward looking runway for Dimension users, integration with substance .sbsar and Illustrator for vector decals . Powerfull stuff! Love this as a product packaging designer. Fair pricing/including in normal crative cloud is required though.

[@504Rone]

I don’t like that we have to use photoshop to finish the render.

[@Substance3D]

You don't have to! It's an optional polish step.

[@504Rone]

@@Substance3D currently, there’s no way to add fog or post fx inside stager so yea, you have to.

[@koichiyoshino8383]

Looks hyper easy to learn...

[@shafineelambra8719]

I wanna know where the scate shoe is created.. anybody...???

[@aquariusqueen4864]

ALSO STAGER ISNT COMPATABLE WITH THE M1 CHIP

[@thekaiyoslex6184]

So is there a direct workflow from Substance Painter to Stager? Or do we need to export textures from Painter and reapply in Stager?

[@Substance3D]

You have a direct export from Painter to Stager

[@JillDaleOfficial]

Really wish this was less expensive.

[@deng8248]

PLEASE ADD ANIMATION FEATURE TO STAGER. this has already been requested umpteenth times.

[@swastikarora4968]

Do we get this skates model in app or we need to build on our own ?

[@Substance3D]

You can download it, read the description and follow the link.

[@inheodesign]

You can do this on dimensions as well... I see no differences ? Maybe here is better the render engine ... or what ?

[@danbabcock3d]

real-time ray tracing engine - game changer

[@empamania]

Can you create NFT’s with this software?

[@sanjayk2444]

Well i stay with marmoset toolbag for quick render.....Sorry substance

[@CL3M-]

why you don't make that in Dimension CC ?

[@Cola-42]

Match image is cool. Everything else is meh. This thing only exports an RGB render👀

[@otastumelis8786]

It's like they built an entire application around one just kinda nifty feature.

[@brianfriedman101]

you need cmyk maybe?

[@SH-cp6ug]

That's so cool 3D program!!! I don't know well what the difference of Substance 3D stager, 3D Painter, 3D Sampler, 3D Designer. I want to make some abstract environment and interior design. Which program do you recommend to make that? Also, can you make some tutorials for abstract interior with 3D stager too?

[@kevincastaneda289]

stager is mainly for setting up small scenes like this. i would recommend using blender and rendering environments in there instead.

[@jenkem4464]

Yeah get Blender (free) or Houdini/Max/Maya. Designer is for creating procedural textures and materials, Painter is for texturing and surfacing 3D assets, and Sampler is kind of like Quixel in that it's like mixing and matching materials and photographs to get other materials.

[@canaldodemonio]

So this is not only NOT included in CC, but it costs almost the same of ALL other apps?? Are you fucking crazy? Adobe Hustle mode On.

[@edferrari9971]

This looks Great!!

[@chris-hw2ls]

Hello Friend, i can't use "Create lights" at 16:34 because 64 cores CPUs are not supported. Is there a workaround?

[@NN-wc7dl]

Very nice!

[@IronMan-yg4qw]

very nice setup

[@Meteotrance]

Can Aces color space be more include, it became pretty standard for anyting using open EXR file and also game engine and UHD content.

[@girtisuun3317]

Can i import Substance models and scenes to After Effects? Is there a way to easily make simple animations to 3D works inside Adobe?

[@Substance3D]

After Effects doesn't really integrate well with Substance yet, so none of that is possible. Right now you can also not render animations in Stager, so you'll have to use another 3D application to render the frames..

[@williamlacrosse9389]

Does stager support vertex color?

[@Substance3D]

it does not.

[@williamlacrosse9389]

@@Substance3D How to increase emissive in the render panel?

[@jahmaitrapp2697]

qyestion, whats the dufference between this and dimention?

[@Substance3D]

substance3d.adobe.com/dimension-stager-faq

[@frostythebeerman6324]

Hello @adobe Can you tell me who the host is of this video ? I love his way of teaching. He's really good. @adobesubstance3D

[@Substance3D]

This is Wes McDermott!

[@frostythebeerman6324]

@@Substance3D Oh Thank you ! I just followed him on Twitter and the YT, awesome !

[@GameMakerX]

substance painter and stager should be one app...not 2....most software allows you to create and rendering in one app....please fix this adobe.

[@wiglow2810]

Well "Great" Job Adobe

[@JoeOracoy]

Is it good for architectural modelling?

[@Substance3D]

Not modeling, rendering. Right now Stager isn't the best choice for large archviz scenes, unfortunately.

[@JoeOracoy]

@@Substance3D Thanks for getting back to me on this. Appreciate it!

[@l.d.tjonathan5101]

OK I NEED THIS ASAP

[@baadshasingh123]

its possible own model textures import in this stager ?🤔🤔

[@Salt_CoffeeZ]

so sick, adobe,I love Keyshot.

[@unintendedxp]

I love keyshot too. it just need more nodes some like substance designer, then no need anything to make good renders

[@arejustpolygons8890]

can I use objects with textures made in substance painter here?

[@JeanetteMathews]

Yes! In Substance 3D Painter you can use the Adobe Standard Material shader preset for the best interop with Stager. Then use the Send to Stager action (available on the toolbar) to instantly send your project from Painter to Stager.

[@davidgoldstein322]

is it possible to bake the lighting data here into the textures ?

[@Waffle4569]

use Blender

[@Rewind-w2q]

Is this a more upscale version of dimension??

[@emmerkspg3d]

SENSACIONAL! I LOVE THIS !!!

[@SSohaib]

Why it looks so much like the Old Adobe software "Adobe dimension", it seems that they just changed its name

[@mayyumiwatanabe]

Can I Save separete maps in Adobe Stage?

[@MrAdamJW]

Disappointing that Stager isn't part of the existing subscription...

[@gidkideon]

At this stage (pun intended) in stager development I have to agree. It should just come with painter or substance.

[@AgusGonzalezDev]

for a moment i thought that this was a useful tool, but then I remember that Adobe owns Allegorithmic... so yeah... an external renderer that let you made lookdev of an asset for just put it on artstation uh? this is garbage... can you just make a proper color picker in painter please?

[@felipefrango]

THANK YOU!! god damn shitty ass color picker, for fucks sake...

[@karthikeyan3d319]

Just wanted to say it bro

[@chrisuntalan9169]

Adobe dimension?

[@nourghafarji]

Why can't you just integrate these stuff inside painter? instead of making more confusion!

[@adrianveq]

Nice program, but definitely not for $49/month. Even if I'm 3d graphic designer, I prefer perpetual Substance Painter + Blender.

[@gidkideon]

This is a great first step! Looks really intuitive! Can you render to a higher bit depth? 8bit and even many times 16bit aren't enough for post tweaks IMHO. Maybe Adobe will finally get on the ball and allow us to use all the tools in 32bit mode too eh for PS? Time for the PS team to catch up to the substance team. :)

[@JeanetteMathews]

Indeed! We would love to improve the 32 bit editing in Photoshop to take advantage of 32 bit renders from Stager.

[@gidkideon]

@@JeanetteMathews That's good to hear. PS could learn a thing or two from the new kids on the block.

[@BlueRockBill]

I don't like this. BUT... a lot of the less 3D savvy co-workers in this furniture design/purveyor/catalog I do work for will. Blender is about as good, but the ease of the user experience in Stager is great. Super easy onboarding for graphic designers. The Integration into the rest of the adobe pipeline is pretty good (It'd be better if that AI file could manipulate the normals... after all, there's an "emboss" filter in photoshop, why not the real thing here?), and that tells you who this product is meant for. This isn't really meant for 3D artists in an animation, or even portfolio capacity (I'd rather use Blender, or some of you guys might use Octane), but it'll let furniture designers, magazine layout graphic designers, and such utilize 3D more. The 3D artist's job will be to create the materials and models and reveal the procedural inputs that graphic designers, photographers, and product designers can manipulate. It's not for us. It's for them. It'll be unpleasant, but this (or something like it) will be worth knowing.

[@toonytown4242]

If adobe add animation for this software it will be a great software

[@KaoukabiJaouad]

isn't that Adobe Dimension, it's so confusing, what renderers it uses, IRAY or VRAY ... it's a mistake from adobe, they should have made the Rendering Room like the stager here, integrated with Designer and Painter, and 3D Sampler, people will be more happy with it like that .. yet another software ..

[@JeanetteMathews]

Stager integrates our own Adobe Mercury Rendering Engine, which has been in development with Adobe Research since 2016. It includes both raster and raytracing techniques for real time, interactive, and offline rendering without requiring different scene or material configurations.

[@KaoukabiJaouad]

@@JeanetteMathews Didn't know that, thanks for the info, it's just in my opinion, things should be simplified, there is a lot of software, some should be dropped, take what Dimension has "the best features", and integrate it in the substance suite, in Stager , Stager and Dimension should be one software

[@JeanetteMathews]

@@KaoukabiJaouad I hear ya! There's always that possibility - for now we wanted to not interrupt people who were already using Dimension with their CC All Apps subscriptions. But we'll see where it takes us!

[@KaoukabiJaouad]

@@JeanetteMathews Well wish you all success in the future, thanks for your response :) keep up the good work

[@sltecpamiya4515]

What about dimension

[@matrixcode2621]

not use full at all keyshot is doing the perfect work

[@gidkideon]

How much does keyshot cost?

[@improvementTime10.3.17]

16:30 match asset to image 19:15 add another asset

[@WanJieMing]

It's just a Element 3D

[@RetroToonsOfficial]

Thank You

[@iomatthew]

Adobe Dimension seem pretty useless now...What's really the difference??

[@ale21andra]

this dude sounds like alhaitham

[@seanwilliams6823]

Is this Apple M1 chip friendly? Also, what will happen to Dimension?

[@JeanetteMathews]

Stager and Dimension are based on the same architecture. Today neither are available for Apple Silicon M1 devices. We are actively exploring this as a top priority. Dimension will remain part of CC All Apps plan for anyone to start using 3D! The Substance 3D Collection plan can provide an upgraded experience, along with content and services for those who need deeper 3D workflow tools.

[@Salt_CoffeeZ]

damnable. adobe, fucking the new logo design. So lucky to me, I'm learning Mixer now.

[@jcsfx710]

stager is Adobe Dimensions? so are you going to get rid of Dimensions on the creative cloud? why didn't you include Substance for an extra $10 in the full cloud instead of going through all this nonsense? c'mon now...

[@lucasgrguric790]

Please, please pan = middle mouse + alt. I wish your compagny to dismiss. Oh god, why not just a single middle mouse + drag, like everyone else in the world

[@MadStyle1911]

The fact this software is separate from Creative Cloud subscription is f'ing pathetic Adobe..

[@brandonhall3353]

Honestly, I'm not impressed with this at all. I dont see the purpose in it.

[@SoaringSimulator]

Stager as it is is an adobe scam; becuse it doesn't import from Painter with a button. For perpetual license you need the move to subscription. And if you use the chain subscription, it doesn´t preserve Stage transforms.

[@nourghafarji]

I hate these kind of jumps, i don't think it's a good idea to make people learn shortcuts for every software separate, just do like what you did in photoshop, i know animation sucks in photoshop but it's an option! and btw you can make animation way better in photoshop!

[@oleggorsky9131]

Btw, the vid is useless. Can you import your own models? Can you import smart materials from Substance Painter? If not, why would you need this software? If yes, why don’t you show it?

[@Substance3D]

-Yes you can import your own models, just drag and drop into the viewport. -You can not import smart materials (those are Painter only files), but you can use Send To Stager from Painter, this brings your model into Stager with one single click. Very easy, try it out!

[@rosskoss1153]

I can be wrong but this is second Keyshot...

[@jackynikola]

Damn now every kid and their grandmoms will say they are "3D Artists". But in fact, you are just playing with kids' tools without understanding, Modeling, Lights, Rigging, Composition...... i was already sick looking at some Chinese and Indian self-proclaimed artists. But this is gonna take it to another Copy-Past level...... Adobe Pls stop making toys for kids

[@arihantkrishan2369]

blender is greater

[@bojanduric1660]

RIP marmoset

[@cr4723]

Why?

[@RobJorg]

Blender it is