I think the safest bet is that the money wasn't why Tom loved Shiv; it was why he never hated her.
@belleslettres3543 ай бұрын
Damn, perfectly said.
@samanthacristinaburgosmera41602 ай бұрын
DAMMM, goooodddd
@dejeynes10 ай бұрын
Bitey perfectly sums up their relationship. They’re gonna keep hurting each other until someone can’t take it anymore
@corinne60119 ай бұрын
End of SCRIPT BOOK for Shiv and Tom in the car : An accomodation, an equilibrium, that could last with a certain stabilty, proxy wars and detentes for many years to come..nothing needy from either side. A queen and a prince. Two bombs transported with great care.
@NonaggressАй бұрын
Or another nuance: What Shiv really needs from Tom is pain, and she knows he's holding out on her. That they're able to have fun-and this is probably not the intended message by the writers-shows that there's a *chance* they might figure something out. It'll be depraved. It'll also be love.
@Georgina-lv9btАй бұрын
This was foreplay for them lol. Shiv loves needling Tom to get a reaction and is secretly delighted Tom won't budge, Tom loves being needled by Shiv because he knows from Shiv it's a sign of love...it's perfect. They're perfect.
@mysharona9097 Жыл бұрын
Shiv has spent three seasons hiding her emotions from everyone and it's getting harder and harder for her to keep it up. The look at 1:30 after she says "I was fucked up long before I met you" says everything. She broke his heart and he broke hers, whether she admits it or not. I hope Sarah Snook takes the best actress emmy, such an incredible performer
@pursuitofvictories5 Жыл бұрын
oh my god i didnt even notice this, thanks for pointing it out ... sarah snook is insanely talented!!! as a sort of parallel, her look away here reminds me of another instance in s4, i dont remember which episode, when her and tom are in the car together and something tom says makes her smile but she looks out the window for a split second so he cant see it before turning back to him
@mysharona9097 Жыл бұрын
@@pursuitofvictories5 Yes I noticed that moment too! It's interesting because Snook and Mcfadyen both do this - they react to situations with two expressions, first the fake emotion and then the real one. Tom does this the most, he'll laugh and smile and then his face will settle into sadness or discomfort immediately after. The difference is that he shows it openly and no one seems to notice or care (poor Tom), whereas Shiv always hides it. It's a great representation of how they are both major fakers but deep down Tom wants to connect and be vulnerable, (hence why he seeks out Greg in moments of heightened emotion) whereas Shiv will always be in defense mode because showing true emotions is a weakness. Which also happens to be the main cause of their relationship problems. God I love this show!!
@Winter-Alpha-Omega3 ай бұрын
Love them so much. They were so toxic and harmful to each other. But at the same time, they had such chemistry.
@Overlijden1995 Жыл бұрын
A stupid, unsanitary kid's game is the literal perfect metaphor for their entire relationship LOL.
@philipgodsworth4764 Жыл бұрын
Hygiene is for the weak.
@iloveads12310 ай бұрын
I had a more mature relationship relationship than them when i was in secondary school
@dh9690 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Shiv would have ever let Tom go. He may have been the only person in her life that truly loved her, and she knows it.
@berserkhorimiya11 ай бұрын
Eh he married her for her money and both of them know that, sure there is a genuine love their but let's not pretend that Tom's intentions were ever pure.
@morrisoniice10 ай бұрын
@@berserkhorimiyahe married her with a goal in mind, sure, but why cant it also be that he genuinely loved her? Both can be true haha
@emjay598310 ай бұрын
I think you are right and frankly I think he is the only person she has any genuine love for also. That phone call.....she really was allowing herself to be vulnerable. He was honest and it really hurt her.....
@rashadginn87689 ай бұрын
@@berserkhorimiyaBut look at season 2. Man or Woman don't deserve that type of treatment. Shiv was out of hand towards Tom
@NonaggressАй бұрын
@@rashadginn8768 Just because it's love doesn't mean it is healthy or even acceptable. Lots of people show love in horrifying and inhuman ways. They can build a healthy relationship if they (and more specifically Tom) can forgive each other. Whether Tom *should* is an open question.
@sophiethepegasus Жыл бұрын
They are both finally revealing themselves to each other.
@Nonaggress8 ай бұрын
It says something that this is the ONLY time we hear about their sex life, and apparently it's great
@Winter-Alpha-Omega3 ай бұрын
What does this mean?@@Nonaggress
@Nonaggress3 ай бұрын
@@Winter-Alpha-Omega until this season, we never really knew what Shiv and Tom were like together in bed. After this scene, they're much more flirty and affectionate, and we see them text each other about how good the sex is getting.
@widowswail888 Жыл бұрын
2:30 I see this scene as a symbol of the two of them (re)uniting. With their hands intertwined and the camera showing them both with their wedding rings still on. Honestly, I’m kinda rooting for them.
@widowswail888 Жыл бұрын
Also “bitey” as their unifying act is so apt for their broken relationship.
@BatmanHQYT Жыл бұрын
Sarah Snook's facial acting is fucking unreal, such a rapid cascade of a million emotions. 1:10 to 1:20 is just mesmerizing.
@jelenaladigina Жыл бұрын
She is very good. Tremendous acting skills
@cometface Жыл бұрын
The look away at 1:27 is the most important, because it shows us that Shiv knows he's right. He fucked her up but not by what he did to her, but by her not letting him in all the way
@BatmanHQYT Жыл бұрын
@@cometface I think it also speaks to how duplicity is the characters' preferred language, thanks to the way they've been raised. Earnestness always takes them aback since it's the exception and not the rule. They always ask each other, "is this real?" and I'm sure that was what Shiv was thinking when Tom gave a heartfelt, no-strings-attached apology.
@iloveads12310 ай бұрын
I hate Shiv but the actrees is brilliant
@FoxInTheBasement4 ай бұрын
Skarsgard said this about her eyes on the HBO podcast.
@bruhffffgggg11 ай бұрын
Acting like a highschool couple at a company event 😂😂
@d25102 Жыл бұрын
their relationship is so scrumptious i will never love any relationship more
@BenHuntsman10 ай бұрын
What.
@Saigeee3334 ай бұрын
The Tom/Shiv/Greg love triangle is my Roman Empire (no pun intended)
@cottontaelle58638 күн бұрын
this makes sense from someone with a will graham profile picture
@andrewsimmons9898 ай бұрын
Bitey, boar on the floor… good family fun
@Joy6172011 ай бұрын
I want to see Bitey outtakes.
@Anukii10 ай бұрын
1:10 *"Fucking me up? Is he serious? HIM fuck ME up?"* Laugh then look back *"Oh God, he really means this, he really thinks this, we can't have that, he is nothing"* Shiv: Oh, you should be so lucky!
@rashadginn87688 ай бұрын
Tom made her run off. He played too rough😂
@route66ally11 ай бұрын
there's GOTTA be lines they cut after this
@FoxInTheBasement4 ай бұрын
Just cause writing isn't subtle, doesn't mean it isn't great.
@vikrenfield11 ай бұрын
this was yuri
@mitunacaptor31210 ай бұрын
Literally.
@curelynnАй бұрын
u get it
@jayclearmen411 Жыл бұрын
Tom is trying so hard.. but shiv… is ALOT an makes things so hard.
@rashadginn876811 ай бұрын
Shiv always looking at Tom's package. 😂
@angelhadid20624 ай бұрын
What minutw
@samanthacristinaburgosmera41604 ай бұрын
I noticed 😂 yeah
@samanthacristinaburgosmera41602 ай бұрын
@@angelhadid2062 2:14 I think is this part
@user-xp7xn8uf6j3 ай бұрын
I need to know the song too, please!
@zizoumonk105 ай бұрын
Good thing Tom is a pain sponge
@tobindietrich7409 Жыл бұрын
I wanna play Bitey with someone like that 😫
@ashry1760 Жыл бұрын
No one can beat me in this game 😊 This is precisely my field of expertise ❤
@lamario295 Жыл бұрын
This is not a kid's game
@drewroosevelt650610 ай бұрын
What is the song?
@jonnytorres6646 ай бұрын
2:13
@Winter-Alpha-Omega3 ай бұрын
?
@samanthacristinaburgosmera41602 ай бұрын
@@Winter-Alpha-Omegaone comment said that she was looking at his package 😂
@axis7879 Жыл бұрын
One episode later and everything goes to shit
@corinne60119 ай бұрын
On KZbin BRIDGE4 The truth about Shiv and Tom JUST AN OBSERVATION playlist Succession
@Ephraim-Michael5 ай бұрын
Both were incapable of authentic vulnerability for long periods of time wherefore their competitiveness ruined their chance at love & bonding
@TheCoolestJose Жыл бұрын
Tom is a gold digger, otherwise he wouldn’t put up with this behavior
@lancelot4718 Жыл бұрын
hes already quite rich tho
@Uptomyknees Жыл бұрын
...did you even watch the episode
@vomo8322 Жыл бұрын
Man shut up lmao, what a surface level take. Also to Max Landis, write Chronicle 2 already.
@xxwhispersxx2856 Жыл бұрын
I think he just likes crazy.
@alexanderscott2456 Жыл бұрын
Obviously you haven't been paying attention to Tom the past four seasons. Yes, Tom is a gold digger. We know this. He knows this. She knows this. But he actually does really love Shiv. It's tragic seeing this guy unveil his heart and bear his soul to her, only to see her coldly dismiss him, deflect with humor and sarcasm, make it about her, change the subject.