SUFFOLK PUNCH STALLION TRAINING: First Time Driving Double with Baron & Ken!!

[@mervjb809]

Amazing the noticeable size difference, when Baron is hitched with Ken. What a calm horse Ken is.

[@michaelladd3628]

I discovered your channel a couple of weeks ago and it has been a delight. We bought our farm in 1995 and shortly thereafter bought our daughter her first horse, a 12 year old Tennessee Walker gelding. Fortunately for us, he was well trained and good tempered. He spent the rest of his life here. In his last years he roamed our pastures in retirement. He passed away at age 32. As a young man I was always fascinated by the drafts and although I was 45 when we bought our farm I had been a subscriber to Small Horse Journal magazine for many years prior. I seriously considered buying a team when we acquired the farm, but we had no one nearby that could mentor me here in Southern Illinois. At that time Amish were not settled in our area. Now my next door neighbor is Amish. They started moving in around 2009. Mostly from northern states and Canada. Buggies and work teams pass the house several times a day. They plow and disc our garden for us. I apologize. I didn't mean to ramble on so much, but at age 72 I still love to see the drafts work. I have never harnessed a team but I am familiar with the process and terminology. I greatly appreciate Jim taking the time to explain exactly what he is doing and why. You two are producing great videos together. May God bless and keep you both. You're a great asset to the draft community.

[@johnking8679]

Michael Ladd - Greetings from a "City boy" born in Africa (Rhodesia - now Zimbabwe) Ever since I came across Jim and Brenda's channel, I have been thoroughly intrigued by their videos !! I am 80 yrs old and have had basically zero experience with any horses. However, since retirement, I have developed a strong interest in them - especially the larger draught- type horse !! Stay tuned and you'll really get to like Jim and Brenda, too !!

[@michaelbissen1946]

Buck is looking over his stall wall thinking what's going on here?, haha

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

😂

[@ghythi9929]

Buck was concerned about what was happening. I saw him look over and assess the situation.

[@deborahratcliff8179]

I can see Baron keeping his ears turned to Jim. For being a young stallion he looks to be doing very well with Jim's training. Hopefully we all get to see the end results. Enjoying the process.

[@mfc4591]

Ken must be thinking ' What must I endure for this youngster' ! Baron will get it, young men do, eventually ! Thanks for the interesting upload.

[@r.f.richardsonjr5691]

The clippity clop, of the shoes on the hooves, on the pavement, is an ASMR to enjoy.

[@lspthrattan]

Baron is doing so well; having an older, steadier, bigger gelding alongside him is probably very settling to him. What you're doing reminds me of what my sister and I used to do with yearlings and two-year-olds. Of course we had no harness, but we wanted them to understand basic rein signals before getting on them (I mean, would you drive a car with no steering or brakes??), so we'd run lunge lines from the bit, run them through the stirrups (which we'd fasten down to the cinch), and train them from the ground. Sometimes we'd walk behind, sometimes we'd take one of the reins and run it from the stirrup and up over the seat so we could alongside them and the reins would still be tugging on the bit the right way if pulled. Worked really well, and a great ground training exercise while you're letting them get old enough to carry weight; our horses were all meant to be ridden. Gotta be honest, the whole time I was longing for a cart and some harness! Still kinda do, in fact, which is one reason I love your videos so much!

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Sounds like it was a great way to do it. Thanks for watching!

[@marianneschacht3799]

I am so amazed with all you do with your horses, and how kind you are with them.

[@chrism1164]

Thanks for another great "Baron training" video. Thanks also for leaving in the part where Baron was done with being tied, and decided to act up, and the learning experience he had. Luckily he was OK - God watches over you and the horses.

[@juliedalgardno3361]

Wonderful work! Love seeing Barons beginning footage. His tantrum reminded me of how you just can't give in to toddlers in the grocery store and once they learn they are a pleasure to take along. I can't imagine having a 'toddler' of this size but I'm glad everyone involved stayed safe! I'm sure in time he will not even mind being tied. He's such a sweet boy and love seeing how patient Ken was with him! Thank you!

[@richardvernick4280]

Thank You, folks you are great it is thing of beautiful to see you at training of these horses which is how our ancestors worked the land. Again thank you so much. Please show more of working with work horses.

[@terencenelson4472]

It's appreciated by those who are becoming familiar with the nomenclature of harnesses, etc. that you use that terminology during the process of harnessing, et al. Thanks.

[@r.f.richardsonjr5691]

Baron's doing really good with Ken, Jim.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Yes they seem to be working well together

[@ronhaworth5471]

IMHO,Baron did good job.Ken is a calming effect.

[@csmithy3057]

@Ron Haworth Hi am Cindy Smith, how are you? Hope we can be friends if that's okay with you

[@todd1808]

Jim's knowledge is invaluable!!

[@stanklein6014]

My grandfather had a big black Belgian stud he used to train his colts. He would hitch them to the manure spreader, one colt on each side,and he would make them pull their share.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Interesting!

[@susanbrobst3186]

We use what we call a team chain when we train new horses. It is a simple piece of chain with a snap on each end. We use it between the inside rings on the breaching straps. It keeps the tight and prevents them from swinging too far around.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Yes, a lot of people do that, I just don't

[@louisecassidy5991]

@@WorkingHorsesWithJim Speaking of rings on breechings, out packing I had trouble with keeping the third horse behind and between my saddle horse and packhorse, until an old man told me to run the lead rope through a ring on the pack breeching. Same man also said when hanging up the bags, (when the first can cause slippage before you get the second one on) with a quiet one you can prop the first bag up with a stick. Without wise old men we would never know these tricks.

[@annmarieschantz9724]

I love watching these magnificent horses!! Baron seems to be doing well.

[@marianneschacht3799]

It is amazing how your horses respond to you. A lot of trust in you by them.

[@jamesabare4877]

loved the video as somebody who knows nothing about horses and training them, i enjoy watching how Jim does it and teaches us the process.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thanks 👍

[@biddydibdab9180]

This is probably the best video yet - I know I keep saying that but the quality keeps getting better. Jim’s cool head is something I really admire and I KNOW it makes a huge difference to the horses. Thanks for this great training video.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thank you

[@carrols.hawkins7770]

This was a very interesting video. Ken was so patient with the youngster. Baron did good. Thank you, Jim and Brenda for sharing this training session. I look forward to your next video. 🙂💕🙂💕🙂

[@ronharrison1776]

For someone that has not been around horses very much this has been a learning experience for me as well . Jim makes it very interesting to watch . Thanks for the video of it , Brenda .

[@kimfleury]

Looks like the trainer was well-trained himself. From some of Jim's stories it sounds like his trainers let him teach himself as necessary. I have an Amish cookbook with Amish proverbs. One of them says, "A lot of parents try to keep their children from going through the troubles that made their parents into men and women." In other words, experience is a good teacher. I enjoyed this video as always 💕🐎

[@Beana10]

Good job Ken teaching Baron the right stuff, and Jim too.

[@joycehennequin8469]

Good evening Jim and Brenda,first of all Jim lm so proud of you and your calm clear commands will eventually sort out Barron, personally l thought he did very well indeed and your right Brenda he was acting like a naughty teenager wanting his own way.As for our beautiful Ken he was my hero without a doubt...such a star he is ❤️ please give him a BIG cuddle from me 😊 Must admit l was really quite nervous but Jim you handled this situation great ....lve never doubted your training.Thankyou for sharing this video,all the very best dear friends 🌱🌱🌱💕

[@just_phillipmaps1587]

Watching from South Africa. 👋

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thanks for watching

[@thirzapeevey2395]

What good boys. Ken is an excellent nanny, and Baron is doing very well for such a young colt in such early days of training. You are an excellent horseman. A lead rope on his halter tied off to Ken's collar can be a help to keep from getting tangled up in the lines. At that point, he is just tied up until you get them untangled. Baron learns very quickly. He's a smart horse. A lot of stopping and starting at random times and in random places, when you expect him to obey instantly, really teaches them to listen to you. He isn't going to want to get slapped with the reins, so he will learn to listen carefully and alertly in order to start before he gets slapped. He isn't going to want the bit to catch him in the mouth, and he will learn to listen carefully and alertly to stop before you stop. I was taught to say "and" before saying "whoa" in order to give the horse a split second warning that he was about to be asked to stop. My teams learned to gather themselves and lower their butts when they heard the word "and" so that they were ready to take the load of stopping the carriage when they heard "whoa." Of course, I was doing urban driving with carriages, so precision was often important with stoplights and stop signs and traffic, and carriages roll up on the backs of horses pretty quickly, so it is good if they don't stop all strung out. Yeah, I've had the buckle go through the hame ring a time or two. It isn't pleasant. Getting cracked on the butt with the lines is far better than getting wrapped up in the lines and running away and breaking a leg. PETA types need to learn something about horses before they comment on what they don't know. One of my friends had a "horse breaker" that he built himself (he was a welder as well as a horse trainer/trader). The rig consisted of a half a truck axle, probably out of a box truck or dump truck. It was cut in half through the differential, stood up on end, and the rim and tire filled with concrete. The differential housing could spin on the top of the axle. On the outer edge was a half a car frame that was bent so it could only travel in about a 30 foot diameter circle. It was the frame rail with the front and rear wheel welded to it. The two pieces were connected with 15 foot tree trunks, which were thinned down so they both fit into the differential housing and bolted into it. One of them went to the front of the car frame and stuck out three feet past it, the other went to the back of the car frame and stuck out about three feet past it. The horse was hitched between those two logs where they stuck out past it. It was kinda like a big A where the truck axle was the apex of the A, the car frame was the cross bar of the A, the logs were the sides of the A, and the horse was hitched between the feet of the A. The A could spin around that truck axle at the apex in a circle. He would hitch the horse to it in the morning and leave them there all day. Usually, when they figured out they could go in a big circle, they would. Then they would spook themselves and run around in a circle until they were tired, which as heavy as it was didn't take long. Throughout the day, they would alternate between pulling it in a circle and standing and resting. It was too heavy for them to move the middle of it, or pull it in any direction. All they could do was go in circles. He would do this for several days before he first hitched them to anything else, and by that time that had learned to pull, to hold back, to stand quietly, and not to be afraid of much of anything. All of his land was sloped, so even on his flattest ground the horse had to hold back on one side of the circle. Sometimes they would wear a groove a foot deep where the wheels of that thing ran, but they never got hurt and neither did he.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

That sounds like a great contraption for training a horse!

[@johnkomosa4089]

Did you actually finish reading that!, ah ha.😄, I will have to come back and finish reading this after I get some work done. Ah ha

[@harveyotoole2029]

i wrote a book today........

[@kitten6062]

They are in fabulous condition, absolute pictures of health. As are all your horses, wonderful to see

[@LivelihoodFarm2023]

I had a young mare fall over the first time I hooked her on the wagon. I turned them her way and she didn’t want to go so the other horse pushed her right over. She hoped right back up and never missed a beat. Another great video guys.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Yes, it's amazing how quick they can bounce back up

[@joecrawford2305]

Jim has a lot of guts and awareness great job

[@benzoverakers1877]

What a wonderful job you are doing with Baron!!! Blessing to you both!!

[@clairestaffieri4398]

My heavens ! These horses are beautiful. The sunlight on their coats makes them shine. I am glad you said Barron has some growing to do. I thought the Suffolk Punch breed were smaller than your blacks and tans. Taller, wider, younger, any form or shape, your horses, are BEAUTIFUL !!!. Good eye for conformation and loving care were on display in today's video. Thanks

[@rodneywroten2994]

That was real test for Baron. Ken was a awesome teacher. did not bother him a bit. Baron is looking so beautiful. and Ken as well. thanks for sharing

[@femalecrusader8389]

Great training video 🐴really enjoyed it.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@davidmunro1469]

Thank you Jim and Brenda. Ken is so big that no other horse will pull him around.LOL

[@chrisgalvin6703]

Great to see Baron become a team player 🎉

[@shirleymurphy1958]

Good training session Jim .Looks like Baron is doing good with the process so far. It sure takes a good trainer for them .

[@jimdewitt5798]

Thankyou so much for the video of Training Barron hitched to Ken.

[@csmithy3057]

@Jim Dewitt Hi am Cindy Smith, how are you? Hope we can be friends if that's okay with you

[@tamsynfowlie1492]

I love your videos and the way you explain what you are doing and why. I am amazed at your ability to train a horse and explain at the same time. Your horses are so beautiful too.

[@michaelbissen1946]

Thanks for doing these videos Jim, very helpful!

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Glad you like them!

[@louisecassidy5991]

Its all about vibes, Ken is so "ho hum" that Baron picks that up. Ken is a great "coacher". I can see now why you have grazed the blacks with the Suffolks. Pearler of a horse, that Baron! Greetings from Australia.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Yes, we are very pleased!

[@charlotteralff769]

It is great to watch you training Baron. Thanks for letting us tag along!

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

More to come!

[@dawnbeaird5183]

Hello Jim, Brenda, Ken and Baron. Really enjoyed this training video. I can see how it really helps to have a well trained older horse like Ken hitched to Baron. Good job boys.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@wendyjorge1050]

I think Baron did a great job evetime he had one these lessons he learns more, good job Jim.

[@gailgaddy5340]

Baron did goodI thought. Good job with being patient. Ken was sooo good. Thanks for sharing.❤️

[@jamesabernathy6470]

Just bought a pair of Percheron colts to go with my older pair been doing this for years it never gets boring great job with yours even though we are getting a little long in the tooth for this but someone has to keep going

[@johnmarlow2887]

"Good Job, Boys" !

[@AMonikaD]

Blessings from Canada. I am just starting to train my Welsh sec A pony to cart, your videos are wonderful. He is not patient although he is 17 years old. He just likes to work and being a show jumper for a long while, patience is not his thing. I will also secure him to a wall in harness and allow him to work this out for himself.

[@brendahogue5487]

Love your videos and enjoy watching them every time they come on. Jim working the horses and training Baron

[@bethmceachran2756]

I stand amazed. Thank you for this education!

[@maryharlow8933]

I really liked this video. It was neat how Ken step over the pole & line up like he is ready for work. I’ve ridden horses but never been around work horses.

[@larag4646]

Really enjoying the training side of things.

[@jeanbeets6710]

Very interesting to watch and hear your explanation why you're doing things in a particular way. Thanks for sharing this with us.

[@lorrieroberts3007]

I think Baron did pretty well for his first time with Ken. Good Job to both of them, Ken made a great teacher for Baron to learn from!! God Bless

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

I think so too!

[@coreywest1183]

What a great video! I love watching you teach Baron about lessons.

[@ronnietaylor2488]

Good job Jim putting baron with Ken I think they did very well together God bless

[@johnking8679]

Hey Jim and Brenda, that was a great learning experience for me as well as Baron !! It's plain to see that training young colts is NO "walk in the park" !! So very interesting, Jim. I'm sure you have to take an extra dose of patience when you do any training !! Bill, your "lead" horse 🐎, is certainly well trained and has lots of experience !! If only we could read his mind !! Hee, Hee !! Excellent video clip, Jim and Brenda !!

[@csmithy3057]

@John King Hi am Cindy Smith, how are you? Hope we can be friends if that's okay with you

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thanks for watching

[@erikajegl2762]

I don’t see the reason you tell the horses constantly careful careful but you see it better than I would!… enjoy watching your channel!

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

It keeps them moving forward, it is just a habit I have

[@randybutler4772]

Well done. Good turnout for the colt. Look forward to seeing more. Thank you for sharing.🐴🐴

[@klauskarbaumer6302]

Baron is going to be a sizable horse!

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Yes!

[@malcolmthomas9953]

Thanks Jim , Brenda that was a awesome clip off how you train new horses 🐎 , you shore have a passion for sharing what you do , the horse have trust in you like you have trust in them , ok God please keep us posted cheers

[@FloridaJack]

Thanks, for showing us Baron's progress.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

More to come!

[@farmwife3622]

IT'S NO WONDER YOU AND BRENDA ARE SO THIN AND IN GREAT SHAPE!!!

[@ronw59]

Thank you for showing us all of that. It was, as always, very interesting.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@markv9101]

Wow! What a great video! I'm impressed with Barons training. I love the longer videos and training process!

[@karenlucci2154]

Came here after watching your daughter's latest video and I am now a subscriber to your channel!

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Welcome!

[@dineshkumar-ry4cy]

Hi. Watching from Dubai

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Hello, thanks for watching!!

[@dirtroadfarm.4024]

Your videos are so fascinating to me. I'm in Nova Scotia where, sadly, working Draft horses is a dieing art. Even in our fair and exhibitions there are fewer Draft horse events each year.☹️ Just nice to see this being done and I'm sure your videos have taught many skills to alot of people.❤️

[@billschengbier7940]

one thing I do when I start ground driving with two horses is I tie the young horses lead rope through the old horses collar at the bottom that way if they try and take off or don't start walking when you ask them to the lead rope will help. I do that until they understand what you want them to do. and it's kinda like a mobile hitching post lol

[@davidkimmel4216]

Great work session. I think that a new great horse in the making. Seams to have a great easy mouth on Barron. Very enjoyable work season

[@dwightlarson6449]

keep making the videos the same way you are please. so informative.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thanks for your input, more to come

[@henrydeyoung7689]

An absolutely fascinating video!!! Jim, you are doing a wonderful job of continually telling us what you are doing and why you are doing it. Please keep up your wonderful dialogue. It is so informative. Don’t worry about the length of the video. I could’ve watched it for an hour.😊

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Many thanks!

[@carollundquist9178]

❤ Another great video. Baron and Ken worked well together.

[@Mary-ze9kh]

Bless you both

[@jacktotterdale1223]

Glad to see the training of barron .

[@luannbenesh8956]

Great video! I have been waiting patiently for you to start training Baron. Looking forward to more videos like this. Amazing how calm Baron is. Thank you for sharing!

[@briannapier8337]

Good and interesting video Jim. I enjoy seeing watching Barron's progress

[@racheleallison5237]

Hello. I find what you do so fascinating. You produce such great videos and take time to explain what you do. I truly enjoy watching. All the best to you all.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thanks for watching!

[@kellypetersen8204]

I envision one day that you will have the suffolk stallions hitched together as a team of 3. They are wonderful and I look forward to future training.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Haha, time will tell

[@jacquelinefranko7645]

Love the training. Love seeing you work with the Suffolk

[@donaldshields2483]

A good job very interesting and I’ll be watching to see how the progress goes along so keep up the good work God bless

[@territn8871]

Baron is gorgeous and, all hitched up with Ken, he looks spectacular! As an inexperienced person, I thought he did really well for the first time. It did scare me seeing him go down on his butt while being tied. Good ole Ken was just as steadfast as ever. Baron definitely needs to learn to stand still for when he waits as you cut timber, etc. Fantastic video, thanks Jim and Brenda!!!👍

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Thanks for watching

[@janemuir3546]

Barron reminds me os some adults I know. Training is never easy.

[@michaelbissen1946]

A friend of mine that is a crane operator says when things go bad they go bad in a hurry

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Yes, so true

[@David-oi7im]

This was a learning experience for me as well. Thank you for sharing.

[@kevintengvall4642]

What a great video, it is very refreshing to have some one show when things go wrong because as you said that's where the learning is done, other videos I've watched people say they are going to do that then make excuses why they didn't . Thank you.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Glad it was helpful!

[@spicer41282]

I 2nd and 3rd a lot of the comments. Thank you Brenda for catching Baron's learning curves. Great 👍that Jim's philosophy of showing both good and bad in team training is super. I'm learning! One of these days I'll get both a farm and a draft team. God Willing. Thank you for a great video.

[@willwipf7030]

I think he's doing good,after all he is stallion and they usually more rambunctious,ken will teach him patience like a good teacher should

[@louisecassidy5991]

Stallions get rambunctious because they so often get shut away safely and it drives them nuts. These horses are well integrated. Sure there are risks, but better than being wrapped in cotton wool, they learn horse law, a very important factor, makes people law easier to take. Stallions are the smartest, will give their very best, but will jack up first if something is hurting them.

[@chrislittlefarm]

Quite calm and easy going for a young stallion. Ken was a really good partner to Baron. Looking forward to the next training session!

[@christinescholz7675]

You are the Best, I love your Videos!

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Glad you like them!

[@stevebonnett7868]

Enjoyed this. I didn't realize how much bigger the blacks are than Barron.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Yes, quite a bit

[@sonnykurtz9027]

Great vid! Thx for the lesson. 👍😎🐎

[@mishloud4215]

Love the training videos...Baron is doing really well. I wonder how the two colts will do; I bet a little more feisty.

[@tinachambers4887]

Well done Baron great training session have a day love 😍 from TEXAS

[@debbismirnoff1424]

Really interesting! Thx for explaining everything

[@jamescox8233]

hi jim and brenda, sorry i am late today, jim i am impressed the way kenny works so good with baron. great video, thank you so much ... jim N.S. canada.

[@sueupham2519]

awwww this was so wonderful,great training and patience on everyone...I hope many young men can learn from you folks...this was fun and very new to us

[@sueupham2519]

loved it all..

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Hi, thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it

[@hughvane]

Circa 1990 I was fortunate to stumble across the DB Draught Clydesdales (all blacks, like the national rugby squad) doing promotions in a Christchurch (NZ) city street. The young man with the reins/lines was explaining to onlookers why the middle horses of the two ranks of three were showing their impatience to get moving by stamping and swaying. They were colts, he informed us, being trained, and on each side of them were older, experienced horses (cf. Ken), mares and geldings, standing patiently waiting on the command to move. When that time came, there was even more stamping of feet from the colts, while the older ones merely stepped forward as usual. I can still hear in my mind the sound of the shoes on the sealed road surface.

[@paultighe3735]

Nice video loved it