Sugess Chronograph - Fantastic AND Affordable!

[@dinosoup]

Something else for folks interested in this watch, I've seen on forums several times, people say the swan neck version forces them to regulate the movement before it's sent out so you'll typically get a much more accurate watch by paying extra for it. It has the added benefit that you yourself can regulate it at home VERY easily if needed, the other one is much harder.

[@robertmaxey5406]

I was just at their web site. They offer more than 50 watches with two movements: standard or higher accuracy. They offer chronographs and some with moon phase sub-dials. This is a great looking brand. I found this channel in my search for good mechanical watches. This brand should NOT be overlooked. By the way, many of these watches can be had through Amazon, for about the same price. Great video and thanks for the lead. Cheers.

[@wildwalkeruk]

I bought on one of these in the Ali Express sale at the end of March and it is amazing. I paid £95 GBP. I have two watches now with ST Movements, and they are a joy to behold, they are so beautiful. If you can get one on offer, then I suggest that you do so. The other think with this watch is that is works with so many strap designs and strap colours.

[@MikeyTown13]

A joy, indeed! And you’re right… almost any strap would look great on this.

[@pokie6087]

These movements are are a bit fragile, as were the Swiss Venus calibre they are derived from. As a time keeper it's fine, and nearly all problems arise around the chronograph. As a rule of thumb, use it as an ordinary time keeper and if you must use the chronograph, make sure when you reset it that the chronograph seconds hand is on or near the 12 o'clock position to minimise shock to the movement, which is what tends to cause problems to arise.

[@MikeyTown13]

Interesting… great info! Thanks for adding it here.

[@Lee-pf2uv]

I bought this as some cheap fun to chop and change my box of straps. Like a lot of people I have an abundance of 20mm straps (mostly unworn) that I've bought for a specific watch then never used, or used for a bit then went back to the OEM strap or bracelet. I wanted to give that box of straps a purpose. This thing is a strap monster. The orange rubber strap I can confirm is outstanding, so comfortable and flexible. I've had this on various rubber straps, black, grey, yellow. Also had it on green suede, black leather, various blue straps from light blue right through to navy, different variations of brown - it works with everything. Even stuck it on a burgundy Erika's original and thought this would never work and it does. Somehow that mix of yellow/cream dial, the orange and yellow hands plus the black ties it in with absolutely anything. There's always some detail or colour on the dial to make any strap look like it is meant for it.

[@MikeyTown13]

I can absolutely see the strap monster-ness of this watch! I’m still loving it on the orange rubber, but this is great to know!

[@tylergray3352]

Just about to buy one for myself, was the strap width 20mm?

[@JRADisDPK]

The fact that I put mines on the amplitude machine at work and it showed 0 beat error , 300 m/s and +/- 0.0. Dare I say it runs better than a rolex , only thing i can compare to is ulysse nardin which is the world's most accurate wrist watch Absolutely wild

[@MikeyTown13]

Seriously?! Those are insane numbers for any mechanical movement!

[@JRADisDPK]

@MikeyTown13 I agree which is why I had to share the story , my colleagues and watchmaker couldn't believe what the monitor was displaying. The client came in to watch store and ended up selling 3 associates on the brand lol hence how I'm here now

[@MikeyTown13]

“Low quality Chinese movement” 😂

[@WatchandSon]

Have this movement in my Seagull 1963...fabulous ❤ Great vid.

[@MikeyTown13]

Thank you!

[@keithmclean3627]

Yup, I bought the green one, zero error on the timegrapher, wore it a couple times and passed it to my dad who is Jim Clarke every time he wears it. 😅 Really great chrono. ❤

[@MikeyTown13]

Love that!

[@chasem9448]

Watched your video then ordered it. Got this exact model today just for $85. Purchased it in Lazada sale. This is gorgeous

[@MikeyTown13]

And I thought I got a steal… $85 is incredible! Hope you enjoy it. 😊

[@chasem9448]

@@MikeyTown13 2 days in and I'm enjoying it. It I may ask, any update on your watch? how is it until now?

[@MikeyTown13]

Still as good as the day I got it. It’s a champ!

[@jedarroyo8157]

Bro what store did you get it from?

[@chasem9448]

@@jedarroyo8157 Here in the Phil, its Lazada. There is Shopee as well

[@traviscarr4698]

I bought mine directly off the Sugess site for around $200. Came on a leather strap. Solid little watch and the Seagull movement from what I know about it is a good movement. It reminded me of the top time deuce from Breitling. A watch I definitely can't afford yet, but love. Ended up putting a Khaki strap that I got from Vaer on it. Another watch company I highly recommend by the way. Love this watch

[@MikeyTown13]

Vaer makes some good looking watches!

[@traviscarr4698]

@@MikeyTown13 For sure. I just picked up the A5 tactical field with the PVD bracelet. Beautiful everyday piece

[@jb678901]

Just bought one for US$117 on Aliexpress, during the 11.11 sale. The one I chose is advertised as "V2 (luminous analogue)" and has the Swan Neck regulation. During 11.11, I also grabbed, for only US $126, a Baltany S206070 Solar Military Chronograph with Calendar; includes the Seiko Instruments/Epson VS71 SOLAR powered Quartz (smooth sweep) movement, 10ATM with screw down crown and pushers.

[@MikeyTown13]

Great deals! I grabbed a little something from the 11.11 sale, too. 😊

[@ericreither3666]

Cool watch. Great review. I wonder how well the movement will hold up over time. 🤞

[@MikeyTown13]

So far, so good… hopefully it stays that way.

[@mikes41720]

I got mine yesterday. Really happy with the price I got it for! But it’s strange, when I try to handwind it (clockwise or to the right), I don’t get any resistance? It just reverts back. Then if it’s counterclockwise or to the left, I hear some gears. It’s really unlike any of the other mechanical watches I own where it just winds up like normal.

[@MikeyTown13]

It’s the smoothest wind I’ve felt in a movement, too. No sounds, no feel, no nothing… but it does wind that way and run with no problems. It sure is a strange winding feeling, though.

[@mikes41720]

@@MikeyTown13 okay, good to know that you have a similar experience too. It's really strange. When I handwind my other watches, there's always that play or resistance or feeling that something is actually getting wound. With this, I don't know when to stop. I probably won't push it. I'll try again when the power reserve is fully used up. Thanks for your review! Still enjoying the watch a lot!

[@Carloshernandez-kk7dp]

I bought one and the 30 min hand fell off… BUT I took it apart and fixed it. To be honest I still love it and wear it regularly 😂

[@Watchugoton]

Great movement and it’s definitely a breitling look to it

[@SuperBANDIT68]

they have a 4hz movement too

[@WatchWitt]

I’ve had my eye on this one too…looks so good! I ended up getting the new Seestern (Sugess company) FXD homage chrono with this movement, though. Love your sticker peel! So satisfying 😂. Great dial on this one, and I love all the colors.

[@MikeyTown13]

For the price, and the movement, it’s hard to go wrong. Hope you enjoy your FXD homage!

[@jg2627]

I'm buying one right now because of this review! Liked and subscribed your channel too.

[@MikeyTown13]

Thanks for the sub… and most importantly, enjoy the watch!

[@thesolver1970]

good review! Almost bought one of these but went with the Cadisen version only because it has rectangular pushers and the case sides are scalloped with a bead blast inside the scallop and polishing around the edge of the scallop. Gives it a bit more drama. Same swan neck movement. Different hand style as well. So its a bit less copy of the Brietling Top Time Deus Ex Machina and more homage. And it was cheaper with sapphire sandwich!

[@MikeyTown13]

Can’t argue with that… great choice!

[@Robespierres_Ghost]

How long does Sugess on Ali take to ship? Seems like half the time on Ali w multiple sellers the watch never ships and you have to go through the long refund process.

[@MikeyTown13]

This one took a couple weeks to ship. I purchased from the Sugess store on aliexpress, so I was pretty confident it would get here.

[@Robespierres_Ghost]

@@MikeyTown13 ok thanks for the info

[@IansModRite]

Realistically, the case probably only represents MAYBE $2 of the cost of the production of the watch and, personally, I think that $2ish is worth the extra security you get for the watch on its journey from China.

[@mica32j]

Love that you are reviewing this great little watch. Would be important to allow your viewership to know is that this is a homage to a Breitling top time. Your review makes that this is a style unique to Sugess

[@MikeyTown13]

I was waiting for you to do that… thanks! 😉

[@clark3830]

Change the name on the dial and you have basically the Breitling Top Time Deus chronograph, color and design total. This watch . if sold by an American or Swiss company, would cost in the thousands. The Chinese bought it from Swiss for their fighter pilots during the Vietnam war. Best deal you will ever get for a mechanical chrono. PS: the price in 6 months has gone up to $250.00 and might go higher in the future.

[@MikeyTown13]

It really is an amazing deal! And I’m still seeing it on AliExpress for $150… I think the price largely depends on where you buy from.

[@a0r0a7]

Waiting for mine to arrive. After hearing ST19 production will end soon thought I had better get one in my collection. Beautiful watch, cracking review. To remove the button plastic, piece of sellotape, dab button and off it comes.

[@MikeyTown13]

Great tip for the button plastic!

[@a0r0a7]

@@MikeyTown13 you welcome👍😁

[@daintiestquarters3411]

OMG. That's basically a gift. ❤

[@trigea]

I got this watch on the brown leather strap and like the rubber its one of the best quality leather straps I gotten with a watch I may see if they sell the rubber separately though now!

[@MikeyTown13]

If Sugees doesn’t sell it separately, I’m sure you can search for Orange FKM Rubber straps and find one that’s basically the same. It’s shockingly good!

[@drewnewcomb2909]

Okay, 5 seconds into the video and I'm subscribing just because you are rocking a baseballism hat, let alone talking about watches. 🔥

[@MikeyTown13]

One of us! One of us! 🔥

[@kevinbaker4907]

What's the 'outatime ' licence plate about ? I'm English and bought one from a charity shop over here - it's on a wall surrounded by clocks and barometers - I'd love to know a bit more about it. Cheers.

[@MikeyTown13]

That’s the license plate from the Delorean time machine in Back to the Future. 😊 Well… it’s not THE license plate. Mine is a replica.

[@21MEPHISTO01]

I got the blue one (not the schwarz-rot-gold- this is awkward for a German) and I like this watch a lot. Fresh colours for summer wear...no complain at all.

[@MikeyTown13]

Yes! This is a perfect summer watch!

[@christophfacius3885]

Why is this akward???

[@21MEPHISTO01]

@@christophfacius3885 Because nationalism (nazis) is a negative thing in Germany- exept for sport events.

[@MiguelBricaBrac]

Oh man, this one has the swan neck regulator on the balance! Very easy to Regulate the movement.

[@MikeyTown13]

Well worth the extra $16!

[@MrPVids]

you deserve more subs

[@emu314159]

For once i'd like to see a brand from this area that's not mostly homage/ripoffs. (the nomos tangente is not vague design language, so it's well past homage. i'm referring to a different watch on the site) It's clear they can produce quality at price point. That's the hard part. Most new watch houses source nearly every part and modify, but they have their own aesthetic (unless they're in the homage space as well, but good luck with that. I'm not a fan of the rolex datejust to begin with, but fine, go and make your tacky fluted bezel.)

[@MikeyTown13]

There’s some really good Chinese brands doing fantastic, original things… just not at this price point. 😉

[@scubaru100]

One suggestion @MikeyTown... Please put some tape or cellophane on those caliper blades before hitting your polished case with them 😮

[@edwardteach3080]

Try out the Milifortec MF E064. Well worth it

[@khirshagk]

I got one over 2 years ago and it was over £200!

[@MikeyTown13]

I caught a really good aliexpress sale! That said, I’d be happy even if I paid $300-$400. Heck… Sea-Gull sells quite a few watches with this movement in the $600-$800 range.

[@khirshagk]

It is a great watch, but $130 is an absolute steal 👌

[@MikeyTown13]

Agreed!

[@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo]

Do you use it daily? Is it still running?

[@khirshagk]

@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo I don't wear it so much as I used to. I have a lot of watches, so I try to rotate them. It does still work as does my 1963 with the same movement

[@thenotanclan]

To be fair in the looks department alone it gives a Tag Heuer Carrera box crystal chronograph a run for its money

[@MikeyTown13]

I can see that. It’s a Breitling Top Time clone, so it ticks a few boxes.

[@sbreslin41]

Is the ‘10’ marker misaligned?

[@MikeyTown13]

No, it’s good. Just pulled the watch to check.

[@rag_man673]

It should be a good looking watch, it's a Breitling design after all. And of the two of them, it's the only one I can afford.....so it's on my list.

[@MikeyTown13]

Also a good way to see if you ever want to save up for the Breitling. I actually like a lot of the cheap homage watches for that reason.

[@comeonman7423]

Incredible value for money 👌🏽

[@MikeyTown13]

Agreed!

[@abel5629]

Can you provide a link for purchasing?

[@MikeyTown13]

Sorry, I don’t have it handy, but it should be a pretty easy search on Aliexpress… it’s a fairly popular item.

[@SkysaxonDragonslayer]

I‘ve got an 8" wrist too and have no problem to wear a 30mm 1950s dress watch! So all this "I need a big watch" is nonsense - I’m not a clock tower for others!!!

[@MikeyTown13]

That’s wonderful for you. I happen to not like the look of smaller watches on my wrist. They look disproportionate and tend to look more like a toy or a kids watch to me. It may be “nonsense” for you, but this is all subjective.

[@SkysaxonDragonslayer]

@ - style is something money can’t buy and US citizens mostly don’t have any style ….

[@youknowimwhite]

This is my next watch!

[@leonsouls1216]

Is the crystal really sapphire?

[@MikeyTown13]

Yes, the item description specifies it as sapphire. I’ve worn mine quite a bit and it hasn’t picked up a scratch or a scuff.

[@Dino-kr9cb]

Every watch enthusiast should have at least one ST1901

[@RideLow883-fk9gv]

nice vlog, thanks

[@freepeacesweet.7547]

Check the Detomaso Chrono Solar it's nice. Great Vid. Thanks.

[@MikeyTown13]

That’s a cool looking watch… maybe I will!

[@freepeacesweet.7547]

@@MikeyTown13 Yes very nice looking watch. Not sure if the seconds hand dial ticks or sweeps. I think it ticks. Very nice looking watch all the same, ultra modern looking. The Mecexp watch is cool too. Just got one, it's solid and reliable.

[@franciscocribari]

Nice watch! How accurate is it?

[@MikeyTown13]

I haven’t had it on a timegrapher, but in actual use it’s running within 5 seconds/day.

[@The7dioses]

Beautiful watch great value.

[@londonoverground]

is that comic sans text on the back?

[@MikeyTown13]

Ha! No… I’m way too familiar with Comic Sans. 😂

[@daddyg1973]

You can get them for under $100 right now. Crazy.

[@MikeyTown13]

Insane value!

[@dakistle]

I bought a suggess once. Auto with moon phase and a jump date. Last time I buy that bullshit. I wonder how many Studio Underdogs will make it past a year or two.

[@MikeyTown13]

To be fair, Studio Underdog (and this watch) are using a much more proven movement than that moon phase.

[@dakistle]

@@MikeyTown13 Agreed, but I am still rather sour with my only suggess purchase. And there isn't a chance I would buy any suggess, red star, studio underdog, or seagull. That money would be better spent tipping the friendly salesman at my closest AD of literally anything.

[@MikeyTown13]

That’s completely understandable. My point is that judging all movements from a huge manufacturer like Seagul based on your experience with one piece may result in missing out on some pretty cool stuff. QC issues happen at every company, at every price point.

[@dakistle]

I have owned many chinese watches. the only ones that made it long have NH35s in them

[@xtr1092]

lets see if it still works after a couple of yrs

[@MikeyTown13]

This movement has been proven for decades. I’m sure it’ll be just fine.

[@pawerudas378]

Greetings from Poland!❤

[@MikeyTown13]

Hello, Poland! 😊

[@sherwinchia8114]

It's a fun watch... but anyone here have trouble getting the 42hrs of said power reserve?

[@MikeyTown13]

Mine seems pretty accurate to that on a full wind. I don’t time it to see what I’m getting, though… it’s better to just wind it in the morning before putting it on and not worry about it. But if I forget to, it’s still running at night from the previous morning’s wind.

[@milehighclassics]

You git , I want one now

[@Ron-Outdoor]

Reuse the box to make a micro bar

[@squadron6090]

Thanks for sharing.

[@squadron6090]

The watch is a homage to Breitling TOP TIME DEUS.

[@faustus8315]

no inspiration, no quality control, not even an own movement and even though we like to buy the crap out of it because the market is telling us to consume

[@MikeyTown13]

I agree that this design is uninspired... but the QC on mine was fantastic. And this whole "in-house" movement thing is very new. Plenty of highly regarded brands using movements from other manufacturers (including may of the biggest and best in the industry). Consumerism is a whole different topic, though. If people are buying things because the market tells them to, they definitely shouldn't be looking at watch reviews on KZbin. 🤷‍♂️

[@rrich52806]

Under $100 now USA

[@MikeyTown13]

That’s wild! Fantastic deal.

[@Alsam]

$239 on Amazon now

[@MikeyTown13]

Not the lowest price, but still plenty of watch for $239!

[@Alsam]

@@MikeyTown13 looked at Ali, way cheaper there. Oh no, know I'm falling into the Ali watch hypno. I'll be lucky to escape with less than 5 watches!

[@happydogg312]

It probably cost 50 cents to make that plastic box.

[@MikeyTown13]

Fair enough.

[@gregorycapi7199]

I bought one of these, the chronograph is terrible, when O press the start button the hands goes backwards-3 to -5 seconds 😬😬😬 do not buy this if you want to use the chronograph

[@MikeyTown13]

Bummer that happened to yours. I use the chronograph all the time and it’s fine. Hopefully you can return/exchange it!

[@Nayr747]

That movement will break and it'll cost hundreds to fix.

[@MikeyTown13]

Why pay hundreds to fix it when you can buy a whole new watch for $130? 😂 Then you have a bonus (non-working) watch if you want to try your hand at a little watchmaking. I swear… the number of people that knock a $130 watch because it’s not an heirloom piece blows my mind! The only question to answer prior to purchasing this watch is: “Will this bring me $130 worth of joy?” For me, it already has… so I’m in the positive.

[@gunnerman1880]

Man gotta say you have a unhealthy relationship with plastic 😅 plus it's all a bit slow 😞 you also could've given it a hand wind B4 showing the back. But I'll agree for that price it's a great looking piece. Orange was the new black. 😊

[@MikeyTown13]

It’s a bit slow on purpose. I take my time with things that bring me joy… and that gives you the ability to adjust the playback speed to your liking. 😉

[@danhaydon7291]

Yeah, that lightning bolt hand is awful on an otherwise great watch

[@MikeyTown13]

We can agree to disagree. But I had a dog named Zeus, so lightning bolts mean something a bit different in our house. ⚡️

[@fmcdomer]

Can someone re finish the entire movement on their own Own polishing

[@MikeyTown13]

If they have the tools and the know-how, sure they can.

[@joeldt1520]

Be smart please and buy a Casio anytime within that budget or less that will actually last.

[@MikeyTown13]

Already have 5 of those. Besides… if you want to experience a manual wind chronograph, that’s about the least “smart” thing you can do.

[@jim.travis.youtube]

This watch is a knockoff of a Breitling Top Time Deus. Surprised that wasn't mentioned.

[@Make_SPQR_Great_Again]

thats kinda self-explanatory so...

[@MikeyTown13]

That has no bearing on my opinion of the watch… didn’t feel the need to mention it.

[@happydogg312]

Mayonnaise watch strap.

[@MikeyTown13]

Maybe it is egg based. 🤔

[@riccaregio]

I looked at them many times on AliExpress but I can press buy because of that stupid ugly second hand shaped like a flash.

[@MikeyTown13]

Ha! I love the lightning bolt! Totally get it, though.

[@simonbutler377]

i feel like theyre just a bit too bright the colour choices arent the best, the orange and red hands are just too much.

[@MikeyTown13]

That’s why the make 5-6 other colors. 😉

[@simonbutler377]

@@MikeyTown13 theyre all clowish colours to be honest. If they want to be a bright colour watch it needs to use fstyling. It has a vintage watch styling with funky colours.

[@tonydilucente2342]

Those Chinese movements don't last.

[@MikeyTown13]

I doubt that… and I’ve seen a few comments like this. Just like anything else, there are good Chinese movements and bad Chinese movements, good Swiss watches and bad Swiss watches, etc… And for the price, it only needs to last until it’s ready for a service… just like the Seiko and Miyota movements that come from Japan (and have a great reputation) they are cheaper to buy than the cost of a service, so they usually get replaced with a new one when they go into the shop. How long are people expecting a $100 mechanical watch to last? This isn’t supposed to be an heirloom.

[@tonydilucente2342]

​@@MikeyTown13I bought 3 in the last year. I runs, 1 runs with a jerky, stuttering second hand, and one doesn't run at all. Total junk.

[@MRi-iq5wf]

Ya I just like watches. Not every watch is supposed to be an heirloom or have a top notch mechanical movement. I like Citizen's eco-drive, and some Chinese watches because you get practical Sapphire and a Seagull movement for less than a $200.

[@zionkid420]

It's NOT that good. It LOOKS good. But it's as worthless as an Invicta. It's an automatic that is cheaper to throw away then service. And No one would service a chinese junk movement anyway. Keep lying to yourself though. The people you want to impress deep down know better... and the ones who act impressed don't actually even know what they are looking at.

[@MikeyTown13]

Well… it’s not an automatic. And I don’t wear watches to impress others. I wear them to enjoy for myself. I suggest you do the same.

[@scubaru100]

You can buy 5 of them, minimum, for the price of servicing one Swiss chronograph. I didn't see how that's a bad thing. I own 7 or 8 watches with this movement and I've only had a slight problem with one - the reset pusher -- (I bought it used and I think it came with the issue). I've find every other one of them to be very sturdy and reliable. Have you ever owned one?

[@MikeyTown13]

Not only that, you could make the “cost of servicing” argument for almost any Seiko or Miyota movement you find in hundreds of micro-brand watches. I don’t see anyone knocking the quality of those… just touting their reliability. It’s all good. Hopefully they’re having a better day today.

[@Robespierres_Ghost]

I own $5k swiss watches and $250 San Martin's. I wear what i like and what impresses me. No one notices or cares that you have a high end luxury watch or a $200 Ali brand watch. Wear what makes you happy.

[@ragnarlothbrok936]

You clearly need validation from others..

[@rayan69pl]

12:00 This is not any "solid watch design" (in the sense of the Sugess project) because it is a simple COPY or, if you prefer, THEFT of the watch design (not the mechanism) Breitling Top Time Deus Limited Edition

[@MikeyTown13]

No argument there… it’s absolutely a top time copy. Personally, I don’t mind stuff like that as long as the company uses their own branding and isn’t competing in/near the same price bracket as the original… but that’s just me.

[@mermerac]

That's what she said. 🫡